Hi Guys. I've been wondering around the internet looking at information for unlocking sim locked mobile phones and have come across the same typical information. I was wondering if anyone knows the in's and out's of how the operators lock their phones to thier networks so that at least it can answer a few questions which I have not come about.
Now I know that there are various programs out there for nokias that use your IMEI number to generate codes to unlock your mobile phone, but as I'm not a nokia user and have an old HTC Hero, these I guess would not work.
I have also tired and failed to look for software that does the same for smart phones. Code generators etc...
The only solution I can find is to use a website to input my IMEI number, pay a rediculous ammount of cash to get a code to unlock the phone.
Now, obviously these companies can get hold of the information to generate the code to unlock the phone.
1. Do they get this code from a program they use? And if so... would anyone like to share the name of this program with us???
2. Or is it a case that they gain the codes from the operators who lock them in the first place? And thus there is no way of getting the code to unlock the phone? (with out paying)
3. Are there any programs on the net that can decode these codes that are made for Android phones or universal, or apps made to automatically do this via the android market etc...
4. If not, is there anyone who would be able to make one? I've seen one for the samsung Galaxy s2. But would there be a universal one available or someone willing to write apps for the specific phones if that's the case?
5. I've rooted my phone, would using a different rom unlock the phone? Or is this totally seperate from the rom?
I just find it difficult to believe that with all the rooting, making software run on phones they weren't ment to, app building and stuff you clever people do on this site... why does it seem so difficult to do and make something that unlocks the phone to all networks? Is it actually that hard?
6. I'd like more information on why it is so hard if anyone knows?
Thanks everyone for any information and any help you can give me on this matter?
Regards.
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I live in Korea and have a nice little Samsung.
It's a Samsung SCH-M450 or also called AnycallFX. I have stripped out all the Korean MUI stuff and am currently trying to get an English version of "MITS", a proprietary application loader that also runs on Blackjacks.
The best English info I can find on it is the following...
http://www.mobileisgood.com/phone_spec.php?phone_id=492&manufacturer_id=45
I am wondering how to ID this and possibly play around with the ROM.
First and foremost I would like to make a dump so I can keep it working in case of errors. I have some update programs from Samsung that ship with the phone for writing to it when they release updates but I don't know if there are plans for any in the future.
Could someone ID what device it falls under or help me figure out how to get info from the phone? Does someone know of a utility that will allow me to get version numbers, hardware IDs, etc?
"ID what device it falls under"
if you mean who makes it then samsung make their own devices they dont oem from htc or others
Thanks very much. I have been picking away at this phone piece by piece with registry edits, testing apps, etc trying to get it the way I want it. Thought maybe some of the content in here might speed the process up.
not sure if any body thought of this what if chefs let users to sign their names addresses and finger print scan in the rom
1st will be thief deterent
2nd good hearted will return it if found
3rda phone will be a personal thing,chefs can leave their name somewhere for the smell and taste fo thier cooking
I'd think Chefs should also put a file in the \windows directory called release_notes with their ROM name and a forum link to their ROM thread.
Can't say how many times I've forgotten who's I've got flashed at any given time.
First, most chef's already put their name in the rom in one or more places, second , if you are using one of Alex's rom's used the kitchen & you can put whatever you want in it. Third, if somebody decent finds the device, your name & etc. is already in device owner info or can be looked up by your carrier with the serial or esn. Finally, if anyone else finds your device , it will take them all of 10 minutes to use Google & figure out how to flash a new rom. You could change the device ID to something nonexistent to make it harder to flash, but that's something better worked out by you & no Chef is gonna want to do that for every single person, not to metion that if he did, the thief would google & figure it out.
There is always ways around things, just ask AT&T, HTC & everybody at XDA
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First, most chef's already put their name in the rom in one or more places, second , if you are using one of Alex's rom's used the kitchen & you can put whatever you want in it. Third, if somebody decent finds the device, your name & etc. is already in device owner info or can be looked up by your carrier with the serial or esn. Finally, if anyone else finds your device , it will take them all of 10 minutes to use Google & figure out how to flash a new rom. You could change the device ID to something nonexistent to make it harder to flash, but that's something better worked out by you & no Chef is gonna want to do that for every single person, not to metion that if he did, the thief would google & figure it out.
There is always ways around things, just ask AT&T, HTC & everybody at XDA
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1st the whole idea is not about the phone getting lost rather than personlizing it ,to google or change that is why i said chefs should make it possible to ingrave it in the roms thiefs if they know all that they are nottheifs they won't find time to steal they will be cooking for us
actually, for anti-theft, I was thinking of a kit...
1) modified SPL; requires non-standard password and a signed NBH using your own custom certificate
2) OS is locked down with a trusted certificate of your own in the store so SSPL won't run at all... unless you sign it with your certificate
3) program that checks the SIMcard IMSI; if it changes then it sends an SMS to another number.
now... there are a few practical issues with 2) because it makes installing new apps a pain in the arse since they all need to be signed, so maybe a way of buggering up SSPL would be better.
ras said:
1st the whole idea is not about the phone getting lost rather than personlizing it ,to google or change that is why i said chefs should make it possible to ingrave it in the roms thiefs if they know all that they are nottheifs they won't find time to steal they will be cooking for us
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A Chef that makes ROMs used by thousands is not gonna want to customize or personalize each one for every user. That said, with a donation, there are many that might consider it for you. Of course, you can always use a base ROM & the Kitchen to do it yourself. I do this.
Also, you can use provisioning xml's to customize or personalize them on a basic level using UC. Read Sleuth's thread on UC (User Customization).
@ Olipro, I really like the idea's 1 & 3. I have played a bit with CID locking to an imagined CID & with false Model ID's but of course while you then can't flash a ROM that's not customized to match, you could bypass it with SSPL, making it pointless against anyone half competent.
Your solution 1 & 3 would almost have to go hand in hand, having the password & a way to keep SSPL from jumping the password measures. Something like this, in conjunction with WIMP & UC in ROM, would be a great tool for security. Very Interesting indeed.
when do you guys think microsoft will stop giving out the activation keys?
i think soon cause of this new rom, but i'm happy i got my key already. lol
I'm already suprised they don't verify imei numbers before giving it to you.
nrfitchett4 said:
I'm already suprised they don't verify imei numbers before giving it to you.
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that's extacly what i was thinking when they said for you to call MS to activate the phone.
nrfitchett4 said:
I'm already suprised they don't verify imei numbers before giving it to you.
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Because you're going to see a load of banned Live IDs for this...
This must only be in the US and I have a HTC Trophy 7 in the UK and working on my live account without activating
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This must only be in the US and I have a HTC Trophy 7 in the UK and working on my live account without activating
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because they're talking about flashed HD2's which require activation
I'd be wary about doing it just so I don't get Xbox banned
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because they're talking about flashed HD2's which require activation
I'd be wary about doing it just so I don't get Xbox banned
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hey i live in belgium and i flashed my omnia 7 more than 2 time and it never asked for id
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because they're talking about flashed HD2's which require activation
I'd be wary about doing it just so I don't get Xbox banned
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which is the reason why i made a new account,
i'm not trying to risk my main account you know... lol
nrfitchett4 said:
I'm already suprised they don't verify imei numbers before giving it to you.
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I have my imei and hd7 before so if they want it...I got it
my hotmail is also associated as dvp previously owned hd7
so I'm in the clear if microsoft has a problem
I Don't think they should have a problem anyways, it's not like WP7 is sky rocketting these days and this HD2 boost brings a lot of developers on board and a lot of attention, they are probably doind MS a favor... WP7 on the HD2 is the best thing that happend for WP7 since it launched, now with a far larger user-base, they can rack up money from Marketsales.
Besides, they can't check if you don't have an HTC HD7, they can probably ban all of those who activated their "HD7's" in the last week, but that will be very very wrong.
And lets say they do ban us, that will just make people mad and probably more anxious to hack the system even further.
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I Don't think they should have a problem anyways, it's not like WP7 is sky rocketting these days and this HD2 boost brings a lot of developers on board and a lot of attention, they are probably doind MS a favor... WP7 on the HD2 is the best thing that happend for WP7 since it launched, now with a far larger user-base, they can rack up money from Marketsales.
Besides, they can't check if you don't have an HTC HD7, they can probably ban all of those who activated their "HD7's" in the last week, but that will be very very wrong.
And lets say they do ban us, that will just make people mad and probably more anxious to hack the system even further.
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Love your logic. Actually, considering imei and serial numbers are device specific, if they would have asked, that would have stopped most people right there.
How many hd2's do you think are in the world? I don't think all that many. And how many xda members actually spend money on programs??? Most want them all for free.
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because they're talking about flashed HD2's which require activation
I'd be wary about doing it just so I don't get Xbox banned
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There is conflict when you have two sep phones with same account @live.com (ie: real wp7 and hd2-wp7) and then sign in at same time to try and use xbox live.
Edit/Update:
Wondering how live pvk and id goes to phone in hd2-wp7 situation where no real device provisioning partition exists?!?!?!??! This leads me to think that maybe:
Perhaps with Cotulla's partition layout over 4 seperate nand areas it would be an option to modify this and his wp7 spl because the activation thing happened AFTER (live activation hack around etc) he had finished leo70 release and then..........
-whilst jtag/usb or eth/debug happening- (obviously you'd though of this b4- im just theorizing- let me know if way off)- to take a HTC HD2 (LEO70) that HAS BEEN ACTIVATED ON LIVE and see where/how/when/with/which partitions, filesys, regkeys, etc, have pvk for live or the ffu and then insert a test cert like ur own xbmod/chevron. or whatever is in sdk for 7 or ce. and then utilize this to diff and comp. I dont see why not. Then .ffu then self signature.[/QUOTE]
If anyone is looking at doing this and needs hardware or I can help let me know thanks. Also:
Anyway to DUMP the newly-activated after-hack after-key after-ms-call hd2 wp7 contents completely? Any news on this unknown filesystem and sd jbod with nand? If a way to extract device provisioning partition etc. Not interested so much in live but more HSPL-for-WP7 creation to allow custom roms. Can not seem to find much on this. Anyone got ideas on own signature or other method using pre-existing leo70 nand parts as workaround maybe?
For the record - I have used a singled live key from Microsoft activation phone call more than 4 times on 2 devices and it works fine over and over: you have to consider fact that if vendor or product id was misflashed at factory onto DPP then every hardreset would not wipe this (unsure)? eitherway:
does ne1 know what the key over the phone from microsoft is actual doing? is this key taken with say imei or serial of phone and maybe your @live.com unique GUID and seeded or used with hash or some algorithm to produce a pvk for device provisioning partition? or it simply override and enable live? are there only one type of activation key over phone? seems there could be ones maybe based on your live address+guid and ones that completely allow model and oem identification to be cleanly changed?
I am just theorizing here from what I have been reading. Finally: Is it true that uk/etc MS stopped giving out keys and referring ppl to HTC etc for key2live?
leo70 said:
Edit/Update:
Wondering how live pvk and id goes to phone in hd2-wp7 situation where no real device provisioning partition exists?!?!?!??! This leads me to think that maybe:
Perhaps with Cotulla's partition layout over 4 seperate nand areas it would be an option to modify this and his wp7 spl because the activation thing happened AFTER (live activation hack around etc) he had finished leo70 release and then..........
-whilst jtag/usb or eth/debug happening- (obviously you'd though of this b4- im just theorizing- let me know if way off)- to take a HTC HD2 (LEO70) that HAS BEEN ACTIVATED ON LIVE and see where/how/when/with/which partitions, filesys, regkeys, etc, have pvk for live or the ffu and then insert a test cert like ur own xbmod/chevron. or whatever is in sdk for 7 or ce. and then utilize this to diff and comp. I dont see why not. Then .ffu then self signature.
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If anyone is looking at doing this and needs hardware or I can help let me know thanks. Also:
Anyway to DUMP the newly-activated after-hack after-key after-ms-call hd2 wp7 contents completely? Any news on this unknown filesystem and sd jbod with nand? If a way to extract device provisioning partition etc. Not interested so much in live but more HSPL-for-WP7 creation to allow custom roms. Can not seem to find much on this. Anyone got ideas on own signature or other method using pre-existing leo70 nand parts as workaround maybe?
For the record - I have used a singled live key from Microsoft activation phone call more than 4 times on 2 devices and it works fine over and over: you have to consider fact that if vendor or product id was misflashed at factory onto DPP then every hardreset would not wipe this (unsure)? eitherway:
does ne1 know what the key over the phone from microsoft is actual doing? is this key taken with say imei or serial of phone and maybe your @live.com unique GUID and seeded or used with hash or some algorithm to produce a pvk for device provisioning partition? or it simply override and enable live? are there only one type of activation key over phone? seems there could be ones maybe based on your live address+guid and ones that completely allow model and oem identification to be cleanly changed?
I am just theorizing here from what I have been reading. Finally: Is it true that uk/etc MS stopped giving out keys and referring ppl to HTC etc for key2live?[/QUOTE]
I think the limit is 3 devices per key before MS drops the hammer.
microsoft germany support asked me for the IMEI of my HD7 (which is of course a HD2). the support guy entered the number i told him and i got an activation key.
i thought they maybe have a list of IMEIS from phones suitable for running WP7, but apparently not ...
**used Android ID Changer.. worked exactly as i needed..**
Im running vegan rom
i play a couple games that are tied into the phone( or whatever) unique id..
When i installed these games, they already act like i already have an account and will not let me login with my user(one account per device). My question is how do i change my id? If i used the id from my phone would it just act as a clone? Im fairly android literate but i cant quite figure exactly what i need to do to (or exactly explain my delima) any help or direction would be appreciated ~evil
I'm not sure how to change this, I only learned of it the other day. The Swype Beta uses the ID to register you for the beta, so if you lack one like we do then it won't work and say its unsupported. The IDs are usually unique and only appear on "phones" (devices with cell capability). However, HTC and Samsung have applied one ID to all of one device so this breaks some programs. This leads me to believe we lack the ID entirely. If you find out where the programs are looking and how to add or change the ID make sure to post the information up for everyone.
Good luck!
Found it. find and install Android ID changer. It allowed me to do what I needed.
That's what I needed to change. Somehow someone else had to have the same as mine, hard to believe but that had to be the case. Not sure if its the same thing swype is looking at though
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