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Yes, we were expecting HTC to do something after seeing LG , Samgsung and some manufacturers showing off their dual core handsets, and 3d smartphone too.
Now its time for HTC to show their innovation as usual, they are a bit late but not too late ofcourse.
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The HTC pyramid/ evo 3d will have a qHD resolution 960*540 (4.3 inch) and it will be capable of recording 1080p videos and 720p 3d videos. isnt tat cool??
But unlike the competitors this phone has a 1.2Ghz dual core processor (compared to 1 Ghz processor dual cores) . So lets hope to see more !
man. this is crazy
man thats sweet
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This will be one amazing device, 3D technologies are the future
Looks very gimmicky to me. I'd rather have decent docking capabilities than 3D functions that i'll never use.
At least for the people who buy it they'll be happy in the knowledge that Bloatware comes pre-installed for free!
Yup very cool but how much would you Really use it ? And, I bet battery life is not going to be good........... still neat idea
Yeah. Sprint just sent me an email about the evo 3d. Wuaaaoo
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Even minus the 3d the phone has some good specs. I might have to trade up my evo for this.
jcruiser89 said:
Even minus the 3d the phone has some good specs. I might have to trade up my evo for this.
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I'm thinking the same way
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This will be one amazing device, 3D technologies are the future
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Yeah. They were in the 50's, too.
3D on a phone? Pointless. The screen is just too small and who the hell wants a headache from those silly glasses?
I'm getting really tired of all of this 3D madness. To me it is all just a bloody gimmick... I think this will end up like the Nintendo 3DS, useless. lol
Hey man its really good i can't wait give more details about that. Thanks.
I can't wait for a Dual core mobile,
bring on June I want a 3d Dual core
Sounds good so far, but the dual core is whats really important! cool
I'm not sold on 3D AT ALL. Sure, in the name of technological advancement, I can see it as a catalyst, but there are other pressing issues at hand.
High capacity battery
thinner design
power management
antenna technology
seamless interaction/transformation to other mobile devices (atrix dock for example)
etc etc
Evo 3D isn't the Pyramid..
It's so great!I wishes i have it
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Yeah. They were in the 50's, too.
3D on a phone? Pointless. The screen is just too small and who the hell wants a headache from those silly glasses?
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are you sure ud need glasses for this one .. sounds weird , recording 3d videos , only to be able to watch on your tv
It's auto-stereoscopic 3D, which doesn't need glasses. It's like the Nintendo 3DS
Any idea if there will be a GSM variant of this?
Hi all, please help me decide if i should get the this or the lg 2x... Is this phone still good and powerful enough or should i be looking to the dual cores? This phone isnt a high end device anymore, so htc arent supporting it with updates (sense 3.0) that has really dissapoimted me as i was looking forward to the update and the hardware is capable of using it. Its just htcs scam to squeeze morr profits,,
Help please?
So is it worth it? Or should i get the lg2x... I heard it has some bugs though..
ThAnks
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Hi all, please help me decide if i should get the this or the lg 2x... Is this phone still good and powerful enough or should i be looking to the dual cores? This phone isnt a high end device anymore, so htc arent supporting it with updates (sense 3.0) that has really dissapoimted me as i was looking forward to the update and the hardware is capable of using it. Its just htcs scam to squeeze morr profits,,
Help please?
So is it worth it? Or should i get the lg2x... I heard it has some bugs though..
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i doubt the hardware of the DS is enough for sense 3.0 because on one of the videos that i saw of sense 3.0 the dual core seemed to lagg a bit (or it could be sense is still under development & needs works)
i saw a few threads about random reboot on lg 2x
but if you want a dual core why not consider htc sensation or evo 3d?
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i doubt the hardware of the DS is enough for sense 3.0 because on one of the videos that i saw of sense 3.0 the dual core seemed to lagg a bit (or it could be sense is still under development & needs works)
i saw a few threads about random reboot on lg 2x
but if you want a dual core why not consider htc sensation or evo 3d?
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Thanks for the speedy reply! There is some controversy over sense 3.0 requirements. Over at the dhd forums,they have a port of sense 3.0! It is apparently working smooth! So htc could have been lying! Of course i would want official updates rather than a custom ROM, therefore i hope htc will release sense 3.0.
I hope lg fix the random reboot problem. The lg has been known to have mAny bugs!
I cannot consider the evo, because 1) i live in uk
2) i dislike 3d screens!
The sensation looks good, but i cAnt afford it, therfore i wad looking for a cheap dual core altenative - lg 2x.
Ideally if i could have a dualcore, id like the sgs 2! Thanks for opinions, but would you recommend this phone?
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Thanks for the speedy reply! There is some controversy over sense 3.0 requirements. Over at the dhd forums,they have a port of sense 3.0! It is apparently working smooth! So htc could have been lying! Of course i would want official updates rather than a custom ROM, therefore i hope htc will release sense 3.0.
I hope lg fix the random reboot problem. The lg has been known to have mAny bugs!
I cannot consider the evo, because 1) i live in uk
2) i dislike 3d screens!
The sensation looks good, but i cAnt afford it, therfore i wad looking for a cheap dual core altenative - lg 2x.
Ideally if i could have a dualcore, id like the sgs 2! Thanks for opinions, but would you recommend this phone?
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i dont have the phone yet so i cant comment much about it...
but i think im still getting this phone because
1.i hate LG
2.i love htc sense (a custom rom is good enough actually its better for me)
3.LG service is VERY bad in my area (it gives me headaches)
4.i really dont need a dual core now as i am not going to play a lot of games & dont mind a little lag in videos
i am considering samsung galaxy s2 but wont be getting it if the price is a bit high...(cant push my budget beyond 550 USD)
i also found a post on lg otimus 2x forum saying that it gets stuck during playback (this probably will get fixed as it is a software issue)
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i dont have the phone yet so i cant comment much about it...
but i think im still getting this phone because
1.i hate LG
2.i love htc sense (a custom rom is good enough actually its better for me)
3.LG service is VERY bad in my area (it gives me headaches)
4.i really dont need a dual core now as i am not going to play a lot of games & dont mind a little lag in videos
i am considering samsung galaxy s2 but wont be getting it if the price is a bit high...(cant push my budget beyond 550 USD)
i also found a post on lg otimus 2x forum saying that it gets stuck during playback (this probably will get fixed as it is a software issue)
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Thanks! I have just been reading some threads here, and i may have changed my mind! The ds is quite good! There will be no real need of dual cores as many phones wont be supported yet with dual core. And the ds is cheap at o2 now (i suspect it will be even cheaper by summer!)
You say you like htc sense... But are you bothered about not getting the sense 3.0 update?
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Thanks! I have just been reading some threads here, and i may have changed my mind! The ds is quite good! There will be no real need of dual cores as many phones wont be supported yet with dual core. And the ds is cheap at o2 now (i suspect it will be even cheaper by summer!)
You say you like htc sense... But are you bothered about not getting the sense 3.0 update?
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yes i am bothered a bit
a custom sense 3.0 rom would be good
it is just that i dont consider the difference between sense 2.1 & sense 3.0 a dealbreaker (atleast for now from the engadget preview of sense 3.0)
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yes i am bothered a bit
a custom sense 3.0 rom would be good
it is just that i dont consider the difference between sense 2.1 & sense 3.0 a dealbreaker (atleast for now but htc will add more features)
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Yeh hopefully! My dilema is to boast that i have a dual core high end phone, thats buggy, or i have a great phone, but is standard mid range....
Decisions!
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Yeh hopefully! My dilema is to boast that i have a dual core high end phone, thats buggy, or i have a great phone, but is standard mid range....
Decisions!
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i think you should also consider the forum community
lg optimus 2x has quite a large community unlike the DS community(hope it gets bigger )
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i think you should also consider the forum community
lg optimus 2x has quite a large community unlike the DS community(hope it gets bigger )
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Yeh, i guess i hav to consider that! I just saw some comparison vids with the 2x and dhd (same specs at ds) and the dual core isnt really that benificial. It beats the dhd by 1-2 secs in web pages, not much at all!! I exoected much more! If thats the case, i'll settle for the ds!
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Actually realy considering thd phone now!! Watch all the phonearena vids, they are awesome and make you wamt the phone more!
Only concern is the small screen, coming from a 4.1 screen... And imo, the design isntas nice as the hd2 industrial square shape design!!
What do you guys think?
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i cant believe what im reading
at full usage a dual core is min. 2x as powerful as a single core
i didnt even start about graphics
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i cant believe what im reading
at full usage a dual core is min. 2x as powerful as a single core
i didnt even start about graphics
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Hi! Sorry what exactly do you mean, can you pls explain it a little clearer?
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tegra 2 - x operations per second
snapdragon - y operations per second
x>2y
therefore if pages are stored on the phone, they will open 2 times faster
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tegra 2 - x operations per second
snapdragon - y operations per second
x>2y
therefore if pages are stored on the phone, they will open 2 times faster
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thanks, but that is not the case! if you watch some vids speed test of tegra 2 vs snapdragon, the spees are both the same! the 2x occsionally beats the dhd (snapdragon) by only 1-2 secs, not alot faster!
Regarding the Sense 3.0 which says won't be porting to the old devices our at least to the newly released. Theres an article on techradar that HTC Taiwan had twitted that some elements of Sense 3.0 maybe ported to their old devices. We just have to wait and see.
@TS
If you feel that the LG 2X really do meet your requirement, then by all means get the 2X. Thinking that it will be getting a Gingerbread update soon and might fix all bugs and may improve performance.
But as for me...very satisfied with Desire S
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Yeh, i guess i hav to consider that! I just saw some comparison vids with the 2x and dhd (same specs at ds) and the dual core isnt really that benificial. It beats the dhd by 1-2 secs in web pages, not much at all!! I exoected much more! If thats the case, i'll settle for the ds!
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that is because loading webpages is more dependent on connection speed than processing power
where the real difference comes in is during gaming & watching videos
so if these two are important you should get a dualcore phone
from the community at lg2x i think they will fix the video playback issue in their custom roms (if lg doesn't fix them sooner)
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Regarding the Sense 3.0 which says won't be porting to the old devices our at least to the newly released. Theres an article on techradar that HTC Taiwan had twitted that some elements of Sense 3.0 maybe ported to their old devices. We just have to wait and see.
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good news
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good news
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thanks titus + kartkk
tbh, i dont watch videos on my phone much! and i am quite already satisfied with the gaming performance on single core! and the battery on the lg is crap, the battery on the ds is known to be excellent.
So what other benifits does the dual core have?
olyloh6696 said:
thanks titus + kartkk
tbh, i dont watch videos on my phone much! and i am quite already satisfied with the gaming performance on single core! and the battery on the lg is crap, the battery on the ds is known to be excellent.
So what other benifits does the dual core have?
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it is only a matter of time before games which work only on the new dual core phones with super GPU are developed
another benefit of dual core is multi tasking is easier
(some people claim battery life is better but i dont know)
[3D] LG Optimus 3D vs HTC EVO 3D
- which is gona be better in performance?
- Optimus will use 512mb ram (DDR?) where EVO will be with 1gb, is that huge difference?
- BATTERY LIFE, yeah this question is killing everyone on sight.
P.S. any questions about both phones, drop reply below.
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HTC evo 3d can't even record in 1080p
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HTC evo 3d can't even record in 1080p
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If that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNCTE1lHaaI is how lg optimus 3d record in 1080p I'll say thank you. Its better to record in [email protected] than [email protected]
I voted LG, the HTC looks like it's not coming out in the UK
Also, on the 1Gb vs 512Mb debate, Sense 3.0 takes up a HUGE amount of RAM, so much so that the HTC Sensation (768Mb RAM) occasionally stutters and isn't as fast as the Evo 3D
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If that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNCTE1lHaaI is how lg optimus 3d record in 1080p I'll say thank you. Its better to record in [email protected] than [email protected]
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you take the only one [email protected] of the 3D that have a strange low fps...all others run at 30fps.
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you take the only one [email protected] of the 3D that have a strange low fps...all others run at 30fps.
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I think it's develepoer phone and not a full version (release) one.
x7nofate said:
If that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNCTE1lHaaI is how lg optimus 3d record in 1080p I'll say thank you. Its better to record in [email protected] than [email protected]
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Lol. Dont be stupid. The one he is using is most probably a developer's phone. I have an optimus 3D and it records good 1080p @ 24frames per second.
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Lol. Dont be stupid. The one he is using is most probably a developer's phone. I have an optimus 3D and it records good 1080p @ 24frames per second.
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Have you tried HTC EVO 3D yet, to compare both phones, if yes, which you think is better and why?
^
nope, only manage to see some review units.
3D wise, the optimus 3D wins hands down.
the 3D on the evo 3D looks pale and awkward and it is difficult to find the right spot for the evo 3D's 3D viewing.
i haven't tested evo 3d's software and overall performance so i can't really comment on that.
LG has a better 3D UI plus comes with 3D Games
Does the HTC come with Games etc?
But I voted 3310 snakes FTW
I ony heard of one preloaded movie,which would be the green hornet. Haven't heard of any preloaded 3d games. Could be wrong though.
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Does the HTC come with Games etc?
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Green Hornet film and a Spider-man 3D game
I´ve just read some first impressions from the EVO guys and almost everyone is impressed by the 3D Features of their phone so far. Even those that had a rather negative attitude towards that aspect in advance.
Given that the O3D got better ratings (regarding 3D) in every comparison (but one) this is quite exciting don't you think?
To answer the poll:
I obviously chose the O3D. I just like the Omap Chipset better and i really like the direction LG is heading at the moment. Their latest handsets are of some really high quality and i'd like to support them. The O3D is a good looking device and i really hope that it gets some serious attention here at XDA.
Come on LG. Hurry up. Release this bad boy already!!!!! Want some custom roms on it!!! I know xda devs can make this phone an even better device.
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I´ve just read some first impressions from the EVO guys and almost everyone is impressed by the 3D Features of their phone so far. Even those that had a rather negative attitude towards that aspect in advance.
Given that the O3D got better ratings (regarding 3D) in every comparison (but one) this is quite exciting don't you think?
To answer the poll:
I obviously chose the O3D. I just like the Omap Chipset better and i really like the direction LG is heading at the moment. Their latest handsets are of some really high quality and i'd like to support them. The O3D is a good looking device and i really hope that it gets some serious attention here at XDA.
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I must say I agree with you that LG seems to be going in the right direction, however I don't know if they're really there yet. The fact that the O3D comes with Froyo (no idea when Gingerbread will actually arrive) and some experiences with the 2X disappoint me. In addition, the Evo 3D seems to be capable of doing portrait 3D as well which is a plus over the O3D.
I'll just wait if and when the Evo 3D gets released here in Europe and check here regularly to see the experiences of a number of users.
LG O3D looks like the better choice because it has better specs, but if HTC Evo3D is cheaper, I may choose that instead.
The few extra pixels of the Evo3D may compensate for the crappier 3D it may have...
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I must say I agree with you that LG seems to be going in the right direction, however I don't know if they're really there yet. The fact that the O3D comes with Froyo (no idea when Gingerbread will actually arrive) and some experiences with the 2X disappoint me. In addition, the Evo 3D seems to be capable of doing portrait 3D as well which is a plus over the O3D.
I'll just wait if and when the Evo 3D gets released here in Europe and check here regularly to see the experiences of a number of users.
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Well, it would be foolish not to see that there still is much room for improvement on LG side to get accepted on a broader base.
Public relations and customer support is still bad and they almost seem to stumble while trying to catch up. Of course i heard of the reboot problems of the 2X and the fact that the O3D will ship with Froyo is irritating to say the least. But these points are still no dealbreakers for me. This baby is open for developers and is a very good foundation for future updates.
And let´s not forget that the EVO3D seems not to be the heavyweight contender that has been expected by a lot of people. After reading all the available reviews i feel that it has been rushed. While still being a top notch handset, it doesn't seem to bring the expected htc-quality to the table.
It´s kinda sad and also surprising to see that a lot of the HTC fellas seem to be too stubborn to acknowledge what the O3D has to offer. It´s an LG with 512MB so it has to suck...
I really hope to see some honest comparisons by some of the major websites soon!
Btw, if they somehow managed to accomplish 3D in both orientations, which i still believe is mostly imagination by the few who say it works - no offense, it also seems to go at the cost of overall 3D quality.
from phonedog
Though it's the first 3D smartphone to come to a US carrier, I've been working with the unlocked LG Optimus 3D, and I have to say, EVO's 3D abilities aren't as strong. The colors seem to be a bit washed out, and the 3D effect is more brash than the Optimus 3D. After viewing it for five or ten minutes, I had a headache
p.s. LG italy told me that O3D and 2X developer teams are different.
O3D and Evo 3D battle review and video:
http://www.slashgear.com/battle-for...ptimus-3d-hardware-comparison-video-17160099/
Evo3D wins here.
Hello.
I'm searching for a phone right now.
I'm thinking about buying the G2x but I was wondering if you guys can show me something better ?
I want a fast smartphone, reliable, powerful ?
Budget is unlimited.
Thank you
G2X is a very good phone. But if you're willing to wait a couple of weeks for the Galaxy S 2 to come out you should get that.
Thanks for replying.
The Galaxy S2 will be like.. 4.5" for Tmobile and that's too big for me ;/ !
Like which is better: TMobile G2x, Htc Sensation or MyTOuch 4G Slide ?
I can also consier other phones from tmobile.
I really to buy this tonight !
Thanks
M2oSa said:
Thanks for replying.
The Galaxy S2 will be like.. 4.5" for Tmobile and that's too big for me ;/ !
Like which is better: TMobile G2x, Htc Sensation or MyTOuch 4G Slide ?
I can also consier other phones from tmobile.
I really to buy this tonight !
Thanks
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I've read outstanding comments about the MyTouch 4G Slide. The camera is suppose to be the best there is on any phone. And the audio quality is suppose to be superior. But I myself don't like thick phones, which slide out keyboards make.
The Sensation is definitely better than the LG phone and looks and feels better...to me. But the SGS2 would be the best one to get. I thought for a long time that 4.3" is the biggest I would want to go in a phone. But I gave a Samsung Infuse a good try and found my new maximum size increased to 4.5". It was excellent. The SAMOLED+ and Samsung's thin phones are worth it. You would be glad to have an SGS2. The sound quality will be the best there is and the camera will probably rival the MyTouch 4G Slide. The battery life will be better too.
If you need a phone right now I would pick the Sensation. Mytouch 4G Slide if you really want the camera, but like MartyLK I don't like thick phones.
+1 for Samsung Galaxy S 2.
It might not have the CPU of G2x but it has more RAM and so multi-tasking would be pretty smooth.
Since you have an unlim budget and if you are willing for new models to come out, look for these specs.
1GHz+ processor. 1GB RAM. 4G. Preferably a dual core 1GHz and 1GB RAM.
3D phones have the cool factor. However, I personally don't think they are worth it.u
That's about it.
I would also go with Sensation!
Actually, if it worth it, I can wait for the Galaxy S II.
When is it being relased ?
But 4.5" is not too big ?
I would recommend SGSII as well.
Last time I heard, it has a 4.3" display.
sygeek said:
I would recommend SGSII as well.
Last time I heard, it has a 4.3" display.
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The International and AT&T versions are 4.3". The T-Mobile and Sprint versions are 4.5".
Thank you for the asnwers.
I appreciate =)
there is a spreadsheet thats going around with all the specs of upcoming phones for 2011 holiday season and beyond.
please take a look and contribute as long as your information is accurate.
http://goo.gl/bMFTS
Ohh thaanks =) ! Amazing link !
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there is a spreadsheet thats going around with all the specs of upcoming phones for 2011 holiday season and beyond.
please take a look and contribute as long as your information is accurate.
http://goo.gl/bMFTS
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wow great information....Thanks
So you're only looking for a phone from t-mobile right?
LG OPTIMUS is a very good and cheap smartphone
stavros88 said:
LG OPTIMUS is a very good and cheap smartphone
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It's out of question. The OP wants a good device. Not a cheap or budget device. Non of the Optimus phones(except Optimus 3D, Optimus Black and Optimus 2X... or rather the expensive models in Optimus series.. ) can run Flash.. as they are all ARMv6.
我觉着吧，htc g14蛮不错的~
I have as u can see LG 2x and device is great, my friend have SGS2 And i can tell u that multitasking browsing net loading apps is the same speed. But LG is so mych better in games(cuz of nVidia gpu) . On sgs2 display is much better and battery managment us also better. U should buy sensation only for looks and sensUI. Thats my opinion
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I very much enjoy the versatility of the htc sensation 4g with the Android Revolution HD 3.6.11 rom.
After a disappointing experience with the HTC Evo 3D I am in search of my new phone.
I really dont want to miss the 3D capabilities. I would like to know which phone are you looking forward to?
I have had everything in my hand that is out on the market and nothing seems to please me and also be much more superior than the O3D.
I have tried everything really every handset out there. The only real deal is the galaxy nexus but it has no 3D functions.
What phones are you looking forward to? Is the new galaxy S3 worth the wait?
FiremakerP said:
After a disappointing experience with the HTC Evo 3D I am in search of my new phone.
I really dont want to miss the 3D capabilities. I would like to know which phone are you looking forward to?
I have had everything in my hand that is out on the market and nothing seems to please me and also be much more superior than the O3D.
I have tried everything really every handset out there. The only real deal is the galaxy nexus but it has no 3D functions.
What phones are you looking forward to? Is the new galaxy S3 worth the wait?
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it's really depends on what you are like the most? if you like 3D then O3D is the best phone compare with HTC Evo 3d. I have own it in the past but dont' like it, that's why i go for O3D as it better 3D and more contents. the thing i miss from HTC is the sense, that's why i got HD2, the most famous phone that you can get.
if you more on the speed, i think worse waiting for the next Galaxy or note.
but you don't like the look of touch wiz like me, then dont go for Samsung.
i hope that help man.
Just waiting for the Optimus 3D 2 at this point.
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Just waiting for the Optimistic 3D 2 at this point.
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There, fixed.