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I've already rebooted, removed battery/sim, tried to switch network modes, etc. I can't get it to connect to 4g and I'm in a "4g very good" area. I contacted tmobile chat and they are not sure what is happening and suggest I swap for a different phone. Really? Is this a common problem?
Maybe you can check out one of the many threads concerning data issues instead of making a new one.
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You probably got the wrong sensation. The one without the 1700 UMTS band
zahashingo123 said:
You probably got the wrong sensation. The one without the 1700 UMTS band
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Where do I find this information?
Assuming you purchased the Sensation from T-Mobile it shoudl work as long as they placed a 4G capable SIM in your phone. Without it you won't be able to receive 4G service.
Is there a way to tell if I received a 4G capable sim? I ordered online, so I just got it in the mail today.
I went in today and Tmobile swapped out my sim card for a new one - I get the same issue to. And I was advsd they are not 4g cards - just updated cards
j3.cole said:
I went in today and Tmobile swapped out my sim card for a new one - I get the same issue to. And I was advsd they are not 4g cards - just updated cards
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Did the new sim fix the problem?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128335
My issue with 4g in Texas. Seems like many others are having data outages as well and not just with the S4G.
The guy on chat said there are currently no 4G outages in my area.
brian85 said:
The guy on chat said there are currently no 4G outages in my area.
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Chat dont know sh!t. I went through the same song and dance. Call up customer care or 611 on your phone and see if you get an automated response regarding data outages.
j3.cole said:
I went in today and Tmobile swapped out my sim card for a new one - I get the same issue to. And I was advsd they are not 4g cards - just updated cards
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Where they able to replicate your issue on any of the handsets at the TMobile store? If its a coverage issue all of the phones at the store should experience the same problem. Unless it's something specifically wrong with your phone.
You tried switching the network to CDMA only? That should not let your phone connect to 2g
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Well guys, I went down to a t-mobile store and guess what?
4g isn't up yet in my area. They are currently working on it.
So that's kinda messed up...I mean, the coverage chart shows 4g up and running in my area already. I drove to the city next to mine (10 miles), and sure enough, 4G pops up.
the coverage map in green is not for 3G or 4G. its for the 2G network. try locking it on WCDMA ONLY if you don't get a signal you are outside of the 4G coverage area. I just use WiFi. what city is this?
I know the coverage map in green is voice, the purple/pink map is for 4g. That map shows my area covered under "4g very good."
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it go to 3G if you don't have 4G? And if you don't have 3G it goes to 2G(EDGE)?
nitrogen618 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it go to 3G if you don't have 4G? And if you don't have 3G it goes to 2G(EDGE)?
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Yes. But if your area has been updated to just hspa+ then if you leave that it'll go to edge
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xnifex said:
Yes. But if your area has been updated to just hspa+ then if you leave that it'll go to edge
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So basically, on a 4G phone you can't get 3G?
Let's say a 3G phone enters that area, it'll get 3G right?
From what I understand, 4g is basically 3g, so if you don't get 4g, you go to 2g.
Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure
cGrumm said:
Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure
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Did you get 3G before when the device was S-On and a stock image?
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Did you get 3G before when the device was S-On and a stock image?
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Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.
cGrumm said:
Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.
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Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
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cGrumm said:
Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.
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So from what you're saying the phone has worked fully on both 3G & 4G on the TMobile network. Looking at the AT&T website their all their phones are either 3G or 4G. So it should work.
Does your AT&T contract support 3G ? I know when I got my first 3G enabled phone they had to ship me a 3G SIM card for it to work. It might be that it's the SIM card that's the issue. I've never had to modify APNs etc. even when swapping network providers away from Vodafone. Insert the new SIM and it just works.
webstar1 said:
Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
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Hmmmm
webstar1 said:
Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
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Yea thats what im trying to understand. I read that there were two types of sensations, one from canada that supports att 3g, and the original which does not. But they said the model T-mobile sensation 4g, should support att 3g. Thats the thing im not understanding
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So from what you're saying the phone has worked fully on both 3G & 4G on the TMobile network. Looking at the AT&T website their all their phones are either 3G or 4G. So it should work.
Does your AT&T contract support 3G ? I know when I got my first 3G enabled phone they had to ship me a 3G SIM card for it to work. It might be that it's the SIM card that's the issue. I've never had to modify APNs etc. even when swapping network providers away from Vodafone. Insert the new SIM and it just works.
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Yea i had an Iphone 3gs with a 3g data plan. And everything ive seen posted with unlocked sensations all have the same problem with att. But ive seen that there is a version that supports att 3g which is what im trying to figure out
This post has the bands that the T-Mobile htc sensation 4g supports:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
And this post says if it supports HSPA/UMTS/HSPA+ on 850 and 1900, it should support att 3g
http://androidforums.com/t/358106-unlocked-htc-sensation-4g-t-smart-phone-sim.html
The first post confirms that the phone supports both 850 and 1900 on HSPA+. All of this is new to me so if this is completely wrong then sorry. Just seems right to me.
It looks like the AT&T and T-Mobile networks are different, this is where I guess the issue is. The more I dug the worse it got. I have to admit that I'd assume this would be a simple answer but it looks like there are different flavours of 4G.
So apologies to the earlier poster that mentioned the frequencies.
cGrumm said:
Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure
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T-Mobile US Sensation (Z710E) DOES NOT support anything higher than 2G on AT&T's networks because it doesn't operate on the proper 3G frequency. The Bell Sensation (Z710A) from Canada DOES work on AT&T 3G because its hardware uses the proper frequency.
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T-Mobile US Sensation (Z710E) DOES NOT support anything higher than 2G on AT&T's networks because it doesn't operate on the proper 3G frequency. The Bell Sensation (Z710A) from Canada DOES work on AT&T 3G because its hardware uses the proper frequency.
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I thought the Z710a is the US T-Mobile 4g version, My Z710e is a European 3G only version.
gol_n_dal said:
I thought the Z710a is the US T-Mobile 4g version, My Z710e is a European 3G only version.
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See thats where im getting confused too. People said the version that CAN aquire att 3g is the t-mobile 4g model. But regardless it isnt picking up anything but edge so he is right. Is there anyway to change the hardware for it to work? I dont have money for another phone so if i can, id do that.
cGrumm said:
See thats where im getting confused too. People said the version that CAN aquire att 3g is the t-mobile 4g model. But regardless it isnt picking up anything but edge so he is right. Is there anyway to change the hardware for it to work? I dont have money for another phone so if i can, id do that.
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Have you seen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349755
It refers to: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_4g-3922.php
As far as I know Bell Canada uses the same network frequencies as AT&T US.
Hi,
I always have long and complicated questions to ask, so I usually don't get much help, probably cause I'm Canadian
I have Bell Sensation 4G. It operates on HSPA+ from what I understand. It's a "sort of" 4G.
Anyways, when I run ICS ARHD, I get H symbol. Yes, I've talked about this topic a lot, but in other aspects. Now I'm just curious about the other phones in US, and if I am actually connected to "4G" networks.
What I want to get to the bottom of is I see mentions a lot of the T-Mobile 4G sensation. Is this specifically because all other Sensations on other US carriers are not 4G capable? Or are every one of them exactly the same, and operate on the same network type (HSPA+)? Essentially making them all the exact same networks and speeds as my Bell unit?
The reason I ask is I'm pissing around with the H, H+, 4G, etc. png icon files in the "systemUI.apk". Just trying to learn what's going on behind the scenes.
I note in there that the files are named as such
"H" icons are named as files like "stat_sys_data_connected_h.png".
"H+" icons are named as files like "stat_sys_data_connected_hplus.png".
Being that on ARHD, "H+" is never used. I am now wondering if I am even connected to HSPA+. I mean, if US carriers other than TMO don't use HSPA+ then that would be reasonable that the standard US based ROM isn't setup to properly connect to the Canadian network? The icon files are there, but they are not being used, so is it because I am not on 4G, because other US phones dont get 4G? Flashing the TMO option gives me the same thing, so maybe because our networks are different?
I understand that there is a mod to switch the TMO version to "4G" icon. But is that simply switching the icon names? Yeah cool I can do that and give myself "H+" icons to make myself happy, but I'd really just like to know if I am even connected to the proper network speeds, and it all has something to do with the radio version and ROM. (afterall, I did fix my 350ms PING to Speedtest.net by flashing stock Bell RUU, so it further makes me think I am not on correct network speeds, rather than just an icon issue)
If you're asking if you're still getting 4g, yes you are.... That is if your phone is capable of 4g... I have tmo sensation 4g and have the H icon... The speed is the same.... No changes at all... I can flash the 4g icon but decided not to... H don't bother me at all since there are no changes in the speed... Sorry if I misunderstand your question in any way, it was just too long to read and I'm getting cross eyed
Some phones in the US don't have 4g capabilities... Usually the older once...
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I know it's too long to read but I don't know how else to explain it, and make it shorter. I just am wondering if T-Mobile 4G HSPA+ is exactly the same as Bell 4G HSPA+?
Put it this way...with ARHD 6.5.x ICS, am I getting the same 4G as I would be with the stock Bell Canada RUU? Everything seems centered around T-Mo 4G, nobody ever talks about Bell 4G!
In my opinion, it depends how strong hspa in your area... I don't think Rom or the phone matters, as long as it can accept hspa signals.... It might matter with the radio thoughh... Don't worry about the long explanation, it was just me thats the problem ...
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I have seen so many posts and threads here saying H icon is for 4g connection. I am from UK we don't have 4g yet its all 3g still my sensation shows me H icon. On my old Nokia n97 it was showing 3.5g ? It's really confusing.
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The connection that we call 4g ( atleast with tmo) is actually 3.5g. I'm not sure with the LTE technology though....
There's three different 4g types, fastest is LTE then hspa and last WiMAX.... So when you see H its considered 4g as for hspa
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T-Mo doesn't even have much of any hspa+ in the first place... if you look in network settings on the phone, it almost always says hsdpa and never hspa+... along with hspa+ not even being close to 4G.
I came across this when trying to make sure I am doing it right. When installing ARHD it asks if I have a tmobile sensation 4g - I have an unlocked Bell/Virgin Mobile one and have been hitting yes. It seems to work okay, but should I be saying yes to that, or no, because it is a Bell/Virgin one with different bands? Is it just to get the graphical band display? Does it have any impact on performance or the radio?
I was just wondering if there was a way to get T-Mobile's 4G Data speeds working on any custom ROM. If there is, how would I do so?
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I was just wondering if there was a way to get T-Mobile's 4G Data speeds working on any custom ROM. If there is, how would I do so?
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Tmobile's 4G Data already works on custom roms, out of the box.
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Tmobile's 4G Data already works on custom roms, out of the box.
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excuse me, this mean that htc one s support lte? O_O the european version too?
Nope
T-MobileUS HTC One S
RockLee91 said:
excuse me, this mean that htc one s support lte? O_O the european version too?
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I think "4G" on TMobUS is just what everyone else calls H+, or "3G" in the UK.
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excuse me, this mean that htc one s support lte? O_O the european version too?
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tmobile 4g (usa) is the same as (eu) 3g/H.
naming it 4G is just marketing bull****. (lte based and gsm based phones dont mix)
as far as i know there is only stil lte-advanced thats real 4G
those are all radio related not rom
i don't know if any do now, but in the near future there will be phones working on 4g and lte networks, meaning the radio will support those bands
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those are all radio related not rom
i don't know if any do now, but in the near future there will be phones working on 4g and lte networks, meaning the radio will support those bands
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I was under the impression LTE is 4G. It's only TMobile US who seem to classify HSDPA+ as 4G. Over here (In the UK) HSDPA+ is classed the same as 3G. Once we get LTE, they brand that 4G.
As far as I was aware, the One S is not 4G (LTE) capable.
S/he asked about Tmobile's 4G data speeds. Not if it was faux 4G or not.
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raikesy said:
I was under the impression LTE is 4G. It's only TMobile US who seem to classify HSDPA+ as 4G. Over here (In the UK) HSDPA+ is classed the same as 3G. Once we get LTE, they brand that 4G.
As far as I was aware, the One S is not 4G (LTE) capable.
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TMobile advertises 4g now but has no lte. They say they are going to upgrade their back end to support lte. I assume that means they are different and are on different frequency bands.
raikesy said:
I was under the impression LTE is 4G. It's only TMobile US who seem to classify HSDPA+ as 4G. Over here (In the UK) HSDPA+ is classed the same as 3G. Once we get LTE, they brand that 4G.
As far as I was aware, the One S is not 4G (LTE) capable.
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Att is also doing this now.
But honestly, I don't care if I get 4G speeds on a 3g network I'm happy. I'll continue to pay my $30 a month.
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Hi there,
I just got my verizon htc one m8 but I was wondering will this phone works with at&t sim card? Can I receive AT&T 4G LTE signals?
Any helps are welcomed.
Thanks in advance.
No, the verizon m8 runs on the CDMA network whereas the ATT m8 runs on GSM. Sorry man
p2kmafia said:
No, the verizon m8 runs on the CDMA network whereas the ATT m8 runs on GSM. Sorry man
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Wrong... It does have GSM to fallback on but you will only get HSPA+ at best. No LTE
shojus said:
Wrong... It does have GSM to fallback on but you will only get HSPA+ at best. No LTE
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sorry for my ignorance,HSPA+ means regular 4g??
denpad2010 said:
sorry for my ignorance,HSPA+ means regular 4g??
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As far as I'm aware, HSPA+ is just a slightly faster 3G.
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As far as I'm aware, HSPA+ is just a slightly faster 3G.
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HSPA+ is about 4-10mbps download in my area versus about 1mbps down with 3g.
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HSPA+ is about 4-10mbps download in my area versus about 1mbps down with 3g.
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Wow really? I used to get anywhere from 1-3 mbps with 3G on Verizon, versus 4-6 with HSPA+ on AT&T.
zacwilliam said:
Wow really? I used to get anywhere from 1-3 mbps with 3G on Verizon, versus 4-6 with HSPA+ on AT&T.
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All in where ya live I guess and which provider you have. Sometimes my HSPA+ is quicker than my T-Mobile Lte...
I'm thinking about using an upgrade on a flip phone I have on Verizon to get this phone.
How hard would it be to get it to work on Straight Talk and since they use AT&T's network, would I be able to get HSPA+ too?
Thanks in advance!
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hspa and hspa+
hspa is 3g 850mhz 1.5mbps tops and hspa+ is "4g" 1900mhz 5-20mpbs tops which is really like a 3.9g theres a story behind this but im only answering the question which is which so pretty much this device is ready for either bands just check who's got those bands and you are ready to go ohh by the way no LTE if it isnt with verizon peace im out im batmaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
Because Verizon’s 4G LTE devices use SIM cards, that means many of them (the global-ready ones, anyway) are compatible with the regular 3G/2G GSM bands used everywhere else in the world (no LTE, however). When traveling, simply pop in a prepaid SIM card, configure the APN settings with the network you’ll be using the phone on, and boom. You’re up and running on 3G. Same goes for AT&T in the US (again, no LTE because of incompatible bands).
It does get AT&T LTE, I have a GoPhone account with AT&T and get LTE with my M8. Only in some areas, get about 70% hspa, and LTE the rest, just depends on your location and the AT&T LTE bands used in your area, but the M8 does get LTE