Task Killer - Android General

Most of apps we open are not killed when we exit. So it runs on the background occupying memory and draining battery, potentially reducing our phones performance. ADVANCED TASK KILLER app kills all the apps and provides existing features one the best working task killerers

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each time task killer kills an app it consumes a lil battery. and the app starts again. so again it consumes a lil battery. so its no use in having a task killer.... i used them before but not using it now.
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n1newbie said:
each time task killer kills an app it consumes a lil battery. and the app starts again. so again it consumes a lil battery. so its no use in having a task killer.... i used them before but not using it now.
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You are right but it has an option which kills the apps when screen goes off.
Once it kills, it stops its work and will work only when you open a new app and when your screen goes off. It just uses 2's of your battery life. i am using DEFY its battery life has improved. Only 50% drain in 24 hours with normal usage.

it's better not to use task killer, they use more battery than apps in background

Not to be rude, but you obviously have no idea how Android manages applications. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205
The only reasonable time imo to use a task killer is when an app misbehaves.

zer0day said:
Not to be rude, but you obviously have no idea how Android manages applications. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205
The only reasonable time imo to use a task killer is when an app misbehaves.
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Read that one.. It says when new app is started memory will be made available.I agree with that.
The reason i use task killer is, when memory is low visual effects get a huge lag and freeing memory at a touch is easy, so i use it. Most people have this problem when they run out of memory.
Any suggestions for this problem?? If there is a solution kindly post it will be useful for everyone.

Just do a quick search on XDA, or Google. You will see that Task Killers do more harm than good. They interfere with Androids built in memory manangement. In the end they use more Memory, and Battery than they save. If you want something for better memory manangement try the V6 SuperCharger. It will not disappoint you.
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MikROMs Since 3/13/11

prboy1969 said:
Just do a quick search on XDA, or Google. You will see that Task Killers do more harm than good. They interfere with Androids built in memory manangement. In the end they use more Memory, and Battery than they save. If you want something for better memory manangement try the V6 SuperCharger. It will not disappoint you.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
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Trying V6.

prboy1969 said:
Just do a quick search on XDA, or Google. You will see that Task Killers do more harm than good. They interfere with Androids built in memory manangement. In the end they use more Memory, and Battery than they save. If you want something for better memory manangement try the V6 SuperCharger. It will not disappoint you.
TEAM MiK
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I tried V6 supercharger its great, no lags. But it drains battery quickly than before.
Whats the best config??

It depends on your device. I aleays lean towards the more consetvative settings. The battery seeming to drain faster should level off as thing get settled in.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11

prboy1969 said:
It depends on your device. I aleays lean towards the more consetvative settings. The battery seeming to drain faster should level off as thing get settled in.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
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Is there any solution for this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614735

Taks Killers
You don't need a task-killer, they can be very detrimental... if you are worried about battery life, try using Juice Defender Ultimate. been running it for over a year, and battery life has been outstanding since I installed it. As far as memory management goes - never had an issue with the way android handled memory. Everything I use has always been available when I wanted it, and it has always ran smoothly.
If you're having problems with memory, you may want to take a look at what you have installed on your device - an over abundance of apps all running in the background checking everything you can imagine will take a toll.

+1 task killer is not good for the battery. Some apps use more battery for kill them by keep the task...

n3fox said:
+1 task killer is not good for the battery. Some apps use more battery for kill them by keep the task...
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I just started using V6 supercharger. Thanks to prboy1969

Your welcome . Glad you like it.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11

prboy1969 said:
Your welcome . Glad you like it.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
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Bro is there any solution for this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25241203#post25241203

janeindiran said:
Most of apps we open are not killed when we exit. So it runs on the background occupying memory and draining battery, potentially reducing our phones performance. ADVANCED TASK KILLER app kills all the apps and provides existing features one the best working task killerers
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Memory Booster is my favorite

kezn715 said:
Memory Booster is my favorite
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Even i taught like that but i read this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205
Try using v6 Supercharger. It does a good job. Still concerned about battery drain read this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612815

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[App] AutoKiller minfree manager, will make your phone fly again

AutoKiller
This app is designed to help make your phone run mutch smoother by configuring systems internal memory management routines.
It also features a full-powered process manager which lets you control your whole system.
Features:
- process manager
- simple/advanced mode
- presets
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i plan to add a few more features, your feedback is welcome.
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Seems to make a bigger difference on resource hogs like the Sense UI. I tried it running MoDaCo's Desire ROM and it seemed to be faster. I don't notice as much of a difference on Cyanogen ROM's. I am still keeping it installed, even running CM. It hasn't given me any problems and the phone does seem pretty snappy (Although not much better than before, with the Desire exception).
ccunningham83 said:
Now maybe it is just me, but in your "reported to work on:" section in your post, it never mentions the Nexus One. That is kind of important when you are posting in the "Nexus One" sub-forum.
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you are right, of course i wouldn't post it here if it couldn't run on N1
post is fixed now.
Been using this the day I got my Nexus One. Does it work? I have no idea! I have no reference points to compare it with.
It's small though and certainly isnt causing any problems. Worst case it does nothing, oh well, best case it helps alot. Pretty sure thats a no-lose scenario.
Incoming flood of posts about "killing apps is bad for your phone"
Shouldn't these types of things be posted here?
Paul22000 said:
Incoming flood of posts about "killing apps is bad for your phone"
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And I guess I'll be the one to start.
Read my signature. 39 apps running and 0 apps running have the same responsiveness. Killing apps does nothing but free unneeded RAM.
dumbestcrayon said:
And I guess I'll be the one to start.
Read my signature. 39 apps running and 0 apps running have the same responsiveness. Killing apps does nothing but free unneeded RAM.
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Task Killers are needed, just not what some people are using them for. For example, the speedtest.net app has a bug where when you back out of the app, it still uses your gps draining your battery, having a task killer will allow you to close that program without having to reboot your phone.
McFroger3 said:
Task Killers are needed, just not what some people are using them for. For example, the speedtest.net app has a bug where when you back out of the app, it still uses your gps draining your battery, having a task killer will allow you to close that program without having to reboot your phone.
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Lol that's funny because that app is the only reason I use a task killer. It is definitely needed for killing apps with bugs but not for keeping apps out of the RAM for no reason.
dumbestcrayon said:
And I guess I'll be the one to start.
Read my signature. 39 apps running and 0 apps running have the same responsiveness. Killing apps does nothing but free unneeded RAM.
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A bit misleading....
I thought the video showed someone with 39 apps running comparing to 0 apps running.
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dumbestcrayon said:
Lol that's funny because that app is the only reason I use a task killer. It is definitely needed for killing apps with bugs but not for keeping apps out of the RAM for no reason.
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unfortunately there are many applications which cannot sleep properly, or don't release resources. (the most annoying I met with was TasKiller itself!!!) if you have the time to find out which are these one bye one, you can kill them any time you finish using them. but if you don't want to mess with this, setting lowmemory killer is the best approach as a fix.
"free" memory is not useless: it is always filled up with cache of your most used applications. so you get resource-consuming applications killed, and got cache with preloaded data your phone will probably use.
AutoKiller 2.0 is out
changelog:
* process manager added
* new ui
* lots of stability and speed improvements
* mb view by default
Does running Advanced Task Manager alongside this app make sense? Is it redundant, helpful or hurtful?
McFroger3 said:
Task Killers are needed, just not what some people are using them for. For example, the speedtest.net app has a bug where when you back out of the app, it still uses your gps draining your battery, having a task killer will allow you to close that program without having to reboot your phone.
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You can just use the built in task killer to do that... menu, settings, apps(programs in a Desire ROM), manage apps, select the app(might want to hit menu, then select running apps only)... then force stop.
Granted, a task killer makes it quicker and easier to bring this list up, but it calls on the built in task killer to actually kill the task.
To the OP, great work! Looks nice! The ability to change how aggressive you want the auto task killing is nice to have, and it is nice to have eye candy when killing a rogue app. All though I don't ever use these sorts of apps, I like what you have done with yours!
whodatfever said:
Does running Advanced Task Manager alongside this app make sense? Is it redundant, helpful or hurtful?
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if you use ATM to kill apps, id is redundant, AK can do it too. ATM may hav some advanced features you need, please check it.
AutoKiller 2.1 is out
changes:
* process manager is on steroids
* stability improvements
Description dev says: "root required for all features to work"; does this mean some features work on the unrooted Nexus as well, or nothing at all??
I don't feel like rooting my Nexus, but am looking for a good taskkiller..
bmszabo said:
Description dev says: "root required for all features to work"; does this mean some features work on the unrooted Nexus as well, or nothing at all??
I don't feel like rooting my Nexus, but am looking for a good taskkiller..
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Actually process manager part fully works without root (keep alive function connects to minfree and it wont work obviously) but it will just doesnt work, no FC or strange behaviour I also would like to ask you to report back how it behaves on a non rooted device, as i could only test it in dev environments.
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ratson said:
Actually process manager part fully works without root (keep alive function connects to minfree and it wont work obviously) but it will just doesnt work, no FC or strange behaviour I also would like to ask you to report back how it behaves on a non rooted device, as i could only test it in dev environments.
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ATM just uninstalled (last weeks getting slower, FCing apps, not sure if it was ATM's behavior), installing AutoKiller; I'll keep You posted on experience on a not-rooted, stock Google N1!
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AutoKiller 2.2 is out:
* ordered presets
* custom preset

List Your Free Memory (RAM) Pics.

I looked all over the forum but couldn't find somethinng similar. I just wanted to see just how much FREE RAM my fellow G2xers have on their phones. I do realized that it all depends on just how many apps, widgets, etc etc anyone is running on their phone which inturn will affect the performance/speed of the memory. So all I'm asking is to see what is the most memory anyone has seen on their phone WITH or WITHOUT running any apps/widgets. I'll be posting my screenshot ASAP.
Thanks
Here is mine.
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mhsamma said:
I looked all over the forum but couldn't find somethinng similar. I just wanted to see just how much FREE RAM my fellow G2xers have on their phones. I do realized that it all depends on just how many apps, widgets, etc etc anyone is running on their phone which inturn will affect the performance/speed of the memory. So all I'm asking is to see what is the most memory anyone has seen on their phone WITH or WITHOUT running any apps/widgets. I'll be posting my screenshot ASAP.
Thanks
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Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
mhsamma said:
Here is mine.
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What widget are you using to display wifi and cell data in square box on the left?
Thanks.
nomisunrider said:
Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
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I agree until you realize thats apps which shouldn't be using ram are forcing apps that you are still using to close... I wish Android allowed users to decide what stays in ram and what gets closed... like a PC. Those task killer apps would be far more useful than "auto" memory management.
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EP2008 said:
I agree until you realize thats apps which shouldn't be using ram are forcing apps that you are still using to close... I wish Android allowed users to decide what stays in ram and what gets closed... like a PC. Those task killer apps would be far more useful than "auto" memory management.
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But then how could google create your location data profile by running apps in the background
jcbofkc said:
What widget are you using to display wifi and cell data in square box on the left?
Thanks.
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It's called Data Counter Widget. Here is the link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.roysolberg.android.datacounter&feature=search_result
nomisunrider said:
Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
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yea, but my aim is to better battery life.
unused ram around 207 MB when idling. no widgets, all unnecessary background apps removed except google voice
c19932 said:
yea, but my aim is to better battery life.
unused ram around 207 MB when idling. no widgets, all unnecessary background apps removed except google voice
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Wow that's impressive. I wish I can get that much. I also agree with you about having spare RAM saving battery life.
c19932 said:
yea, but my aim is to better battery life.
unused ram around 207 MB when idling. no widgets, all unnecessary background apps removed except google voice
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More free RAM doesn't mean better battery life. Especially if nothing is accessing
How do I have so much available RAM compared to some of you guys. I have 5 home screens filled with widgets and I still have 250mb free. Bottom left hand corner of the home screen is a widget.
jrwingate6 said:
How do I have so much available RAM compared to some of you guys. I have 5 home screens filled with widgets and I still have 250mb free. Bottom left hand corner of the home screen is a widget.
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Hmm... any ROMs or kernels you're running? I'm on stock rooted with paul's odex hack. Gonna finally try EBlood 1.0.2 so I'll take a RAM reading off a fresh install of that. Your RAM reading does look higher than any I've seen.
jsapp said:
More free RAM doesn't mean better battery life. Especially if nothing is accessing
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+1.. this man speaks truth.
Trying to cut down on ram to save battery life... that does notta, nothing, zilch. The ram is allocated to the app... but if the app isn't using CPU... it's sitting idle.
Then, people are trying to shut down an idle app with a task killer... It takes battery to turn on the screen, it takes the CPU to startup the task killer, it takes CPU to shut down the tasks, and then it uses CPU when the tasks start back up. All in the name of saving battery life? lol... ya right. It's adding fuel to the fire.
Use Watchdog... It will show you the apps that are running and how much CPU they are using. Most of them show 0.0%.. they are idle. Then uninstall watchdog cuz it eats battery to run and monitor the system's apps, lol.
r4d14n7 said:
Hmm... any ROMs or kernels you're running? I'm on stock rooted with paul's odex hack. Gonna finally try EBlood 1.0.2 so I'll take a RAM reading off a fresh install of that. Your RAM reading does look higher than any I've seen.
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No Roms. Just the odex hack. I have been u using this instal since I had my G2x which I bough on opening day.
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[Q] ram issue ??

i know this was discussed before but i'm asking now after months and weeks of usage
is the device affected by the small amount of avilable ram ????
does this small amount of memory lead to lagging or reboating ??
i m going to get the device soon so i m worried about that issue
I wouldnt say it has a "small" amount of memory, just less than others.
I would consider myself a moderate user, I learned on WM5 and up to 6.5 to keep my unused apps down and my memory clear so I have not run into any problems here.
I have seen a few very brief frame drops in a game while something is going on in the background but it was very minimal and did not detract from my joy of the device.
The built in task manager does not accurately read the available ram as the advanced settings does which can be mis leading. Cleaning out of lot of running processes clears up even more. Sense eats a fair amount but I personally like it.
This is my first main Android experience and it has been nothing but a pleasure so far. Again I am a moderate user tinkering with a new to me OS. I email a lot, text a lot, read RSS regularly and surf the web a little bit. The rest is with the apps. Things have always loaded quickly and so far not crashed.
It has enough RAM. I had a MyTouch 4G for 8 months and now the Sensation, both have 768MB of RAM and neither phone has slowed or froze at all. A lot of phones only have 512MB of RAM.
honestly, if you need a gig of ram, you're either a dev who needs the resources, or your desktop PC is as cluttered as your closet/garage and cant be bother to clean it
xdafun4all said:
does this small amount of memory lead to lagging or reboating ??
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what does "reboat" mean?
nccu_eagles said:
what does "reboat" mean?
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he means rebooting
People need to stop thinking of Android in terms of their Windows desktop or WinMo. It handles memory completely different. Android sees unused ram as a wasted resource. Android will free up more ram if it needs it. If you look in the notification area you may only see ~100mb free. Then look in the "running applications" tab under settings-applications and you may see well over 200mb available to android. That's because Android has cached about 100mb of data to make it readily available because Android knows there are some programs/processes you use a lot and by caching it in available ram you can access them quicker without slowdown. But this 100mb of pre-cached "stuff" android will kill if it needs additional ram. That's why it shows it as available in Android settings.
Take a look at the Pre-gingerbread running services menu, it actually used to spell out how much was unused and how much was in running services Android knows it can kill to free more memory if needed. A sign of your phone really running low on memory is if your phone has to re-launch Rosie every time you press the home screen. This happened a lot on early builds of Sense 3.0 on the G2 because the G2 just didn't have enough ram to run Sense 3.0. Your phone won't lag/stutter just because it's low on memory. In fact killing a lot of these pre-cached items will be the cause of your phone's apparent lag as your phone attempts to relaunch a process or service that you killed.
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thanks for reply , but in some videos i noticed that the device is too laggy !!!!
how can u explain this ????
i mean during multitasking like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfbXqJbXZQ
xdafun4all said:
thanks for reply , but in some videos i noticed that the device is too laggy !!!!
how can u explain this ????
i mean during multitasking like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfbXqJbXZQ
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Its early software. Wait for an OTA or for it to be rooted and CID unlocked and then you will be able to remove Sense.
If I can say one thing about HTC, they support their phones much longer than ANY other company out there - hell they're one of the first to provide GB on a launch device - and they are also excellent about maintaining their own software (ie, Sense - the bloat hog on any Android or WinMo 6.5 device - as anyone can tell you, Sense 2.0 took at least 75MB of RAM to run - 3.0 has to be worse) so you can rest assured that your device will definitely speed up one way or the other.
but dont u think after all that it is a problem that the desire hd had more free ram than the sensation
i hope it can be solved with an update as i cant immagine it without sense :S
Go to a store and play with the phone....it's that simple. Watching a YouTube video about the phone can be misleading you have no idea what type if settings the guy was using
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xdafun4all said:
but dont u think after all that it is a problem that the desire hd had more free ram than the sensation
i hope it can be solved with an update as i cant immagine it without sense :S
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I have 220MB of RAM free and I'm running Scruff, A4A Radar, and a number of other apps in the background. Looking at my G2x, with the same apps running and NO Sense, I have 148MB free and the Sensation is not lagging like the G2x is.

[Q] Android OS draining battery

Battery has been draining quickly, already at 30% with 10 hours with MINIMAL use.
Android OS is up there with 50% followed by display.
I am running DlevROM Infuse Edition
Joker_9 said:
Battery has been draining quickly, already at 30% with 10 hours with MINIMAL use.
Android OS is up there with 50% followed by display.
I am running DlevROM Infuse Edition
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A restart would help. Are you OC or UV ? If you do not know what I mean the you probably not oc/uv. Sometime there are rouge apps that will cause this problem. Im on Dlev and my Android OS is at 6%
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bigfau said:
A restart would help. Are you OC or UV ? If you do not know what I mean the you probably not oc/uv. Sometime there are rouge apps that will cause this problem. Im on Dlev and my Android OS is at 6%
I'm not a developer but I try to play one on XDA. DlevROM Yo!
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I do use SetCPU to oc 1600 max with 100 min on Conservative.
What are some uv settings that I could use?
Is there a good way to narrow down a rogue app?
Joker_9 said:
I do use SetCPU to oc 1600 max with 100 min on Conservative.
What are some uv settings that I could use?
Is there a good way to narrow down a rogue app?
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You did delete Voltage Control right? A good way to narrow down battety hoggs is an app called Better Battery Stats. Here are my settings for Voltage Control
I'm not a developer but I try to play one on XDA. Seriously I'm not a developer. DlevROM Yo!
bigfau said:
You did delete Voltage Control right? A good way to narrow down battety hoggs is an app called Better Battery Stats. Here are my settings for Voltage Control
I'm not a developer but I try to play one on XDA. Seriously I'm not a developer. DlevROM Yo!
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Delete VC? Are you talking about the app? I have it installed and I just copied your settings, hoping for the best.
Better battery stats on the android market brings up Juice Defender, is that what its called?
Joker_9 said:
Delete VC? Are you talking about the app? I have it installed and I just copied your settings, hoping for the best.
Better battery stats on the android market brings up Juice Defender, is that what its called?
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"BetterBatteryStats" is all one word. I was asking about Voltage Control,because I wanted to know if you had more than one app that sets the CPU.I dont know if it matters,but I would only keep the one you like best.
I'm not a developer but I try to play one on XDA. Seriously I'm not a developer. DlevROM Yo!
FYI, I'm on stock rogers (2.3.3) and I've had this exact same issue from day one. I haven't done any notable tinkering except for routing, but the problem existed before and after.
From what scraps of info I could find thru searching, I understood it to be a bug in 2.3.3, not around in froyo or anything later than 2.3.3.
So I suspect OC/UV settings may be a red herring. I was hoping a newer rom would fix it :-(
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Verplex said:
FYI, I'm on stock rogers (2.3.3) and I've had this exact same issue from day one. I haven't done any notable tinkering except for routing, but the problem existed before and after.
From what scraps of info I could find thru searching, I understood it to be a bug in 2.3.3, not around in froyo or anything later than 2.3.3.
So I suspect OC/UV settings may be a red herring. I was hoping a newer rom would fix it :-(
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That is true about 2.3.3 having the "battery bug" but the Infuse version of Dlev is based on 2.3.4 and doesn't seem to have the same issue that I've seen.
BetterBatteryStats, or post the content of /proc/wakelocks
Edit: There's also starting to be evidence that certain behaviors on some wifi networks (such as possibly a badly behaving SSDP client) can inhibit deep sleep of Android devices.
i think I might have fixed my drain problem, Juicedefender along with those voltage tweaks... or is juicedefender really not a good app?
Also I am having data issues, there are times when I have a full 4 bars but no internet. I did the APN fix but I am a little confused with setting it to auto switching off. Should the circle be checked for the new APN that I created? Do I delete the other 2?
Joker_9 said:
i think I might have fixed my drain problem, Juicedefender along with those voltage tweaks... or is juicedefender really not a good app?
Also I am having data issues, there are times when I have a full 4 bars but no internet. I did the APN fix but I am a little confused with setting it to auto switching off. Should the circle be checked for the new APN that I created? Do I delete the other 2?
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I didnt delete mine, I just selected the new apn(tick the circle beside new apn).Reboot(Might not be necessary).Then you should be all set.
I'm not a developer but I try to play one on XDA. Seriously I'm not a developer. DlevROM Yo!
Joker_9 said:
i think I might have fixed my drain problem, Juicedefender along with those voltage tweaks... or is juicedefender really not a good app?
Also I am having data issues, there are times when I have a full 4 bars but no internet. I did the APN fix but I am a little confused with setting it to auto switching off. Should the circle be checked for the new APN that I created? Do I delete the other 2?
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Used to use JD but found extremely excessive partial wakeocks. Might be ok if you use your phone enough to never let it get to deep sleep but in 12 hours off batt JD had almost 1000 wakes and over 2 hours of time listed by itself.
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Will AOSP Helper work with the Atrix 2?

I use JuiceDefender to extend my battery life. It does pretty well at the moment, but some of the more useful features (a more efficient way of turning on and off data/wifi/GPS when they're not being used) requires something called "AOSP Helper" to be installed. Unfortunately, JuiceDefender says AOSP Helper is "not directly supported" but it can try installing it anyway, but I need to be able to backup from clockworkmod in the event it all goes horribly wrong.
None of that is particuarly encouraging.
Has anyone tried it? Did it work? I'm running Supercharged Atrix v5 if that makes any difference.
ubersoft said:
I use JuiceDefender to extend my battery life. It does pretty well at the moment, but some of the more useful features (a more efficient way of turning on and off data/wifi/GPS when they're not being used) requires something called "AOSP Helper" to be installed. Unfortunately, JuiceDefender says AOSP Helper is "not directly supported" but it can try installing it anyway, but I need to be able to backup from clockworkmod in the event it all goes horribly wrong.
None of that is particuarly encouraging.
Has anyone tried it? Did it work? I'm running Supercharged Atrix v5 if that makes any difference.
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Don't know if it will work "properly" or not, but I did do a nandroid backup, told JD to go ahead and install the AOSP driver, which it did and then it rebooted my Atrix 2. After the reboot I fired up JD only to find that the Background Data (BD) option is only available in the Ultimate version (which I just can't see paying for - yet anyway). But the driver must have installed as the option to install it was gone. I was hoping to be able to use something like Setting Profiles to be able to toggle Multi Toggle Widget's Background-data toggle (which works by the way) on and off automatically, but I have not been able to get it to do that with it (or with Tasker either). Seems like there has to be a way to get that BD to toggle on and off via some sort of criteria automatically, but no one seems to have written anything (that works) yet. I feel your pain as for some reason when I leave BD on, my battery gets eaten up rather quickly.
P.S. I'm running the Supercharged v5 ROM (w/Update 1 and 2 zips applied) as well.
To answer your question: YES, AOSP Helper will work!
I am running 2.3.6 (stock, rooted) and had no problems installing the AOSP Helper and enabling the option in my JuiceDefender Ultimate settings.
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To answer your question: YES, AOSP Helper will work!
I am running 2.3.6 (stock, rooted) and had no problems installing the AOSP Helper and enabling the option in my JuiceDefender Ultimate settings.
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OK, so I bit the bullet and picked up Juice Defender Ultimate. If I remember to, I'll post back battery life results. The AOSP Helper is installed and I have selected to let JD use it to manage Background Data (which is what eats my battery).
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OK, so I bit the bullet and picked up Juice Defender Ultimate. If I remember to, I'll post back battery life results. The AOSP Helper is installed and I have selected to let JD use it to manage Background Data (which is what eats my battery).
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Cool, let's see how the battery life results turn out.
BTW, I switched to Supercharged Atrix V5.2 ROM (removed overclock settings though, so still stock for CPU) - I wanted the 1% battery mod.
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Cool, let's see how the battery life results turn out.
BTW, I switched to Supercharged Atrix V5.2 ROM (removed overclock settings though, so still stock for CPU) - I wanted the 1% battery mod.
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I was already on the V5 Update 2, I should have specified. I've left the OC alone for now. Today is my first day on JuiceDefender Ultimate, after having it fully configured. Currently at 3 hrs, mostly in my pocket, and I'm at 95%. That used to be typical for me, before 2.3.6, and I've been fighting to get it back since. That will likely put me at around 90% by then end of the day, which would be (what used to be) "normal" if I don't end up using it much. So far, so good ...
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I was already on the V5 Update 2, I should have specified. I've left the OC alone for now. Today is my first day on JuiceDefender Ultimate, after having it fully configured. Currently at 3 hrs, mostly in my pocket, and I'm at 95%. That used to be typical for me, before 2.3.6, and I've been fighting to get it back since. That will likely put me at around 90% by then end of the day, which would be (what used to be) "normal" if I don't end up using it much. So far, so good ...
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Those results sound about right. However, you can get some fantastic heavy usage out of this phone if you do a little more tweaking. Here were my heavy usage stats from yesterday:
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AOSP installs, but does it really work?
In further testing, I'm not so sure the AOSP helper in Juice Defender (JD) actually works. I set it to manage Background Data (BD) and it NEVER turns it on. I even set up JD with an application specific setting for the Goolge Play Store to turn on BD and it still never did anything. I think it installs OK, but it apparently does not work for BD at least anyway. I've let the JD folks know...

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