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(Q) Change CID

Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?

smash_07 said:
Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?
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Hi,
This is a SENSATION forum.

malybru said:
Hi,
This is a SENSATION forum.
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Yes I noticed it i already asked the moderation if they could move the thread to the Desire S section.

I need to find this out to? I dont want to root my Desire S, I just want to changde CID so i could put unbranded software to it...?

You can just create a GoldCard and make it work, without root or S-Off.
Earlier today I created a GoldCard and upgraded my DS using the European RUU and I'm S-ON & Unrooted.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19171606

doghous said:
You can just create a GoldCard and make it work, without root or S-Off.
Earlier today I created a GoldCard and upgraded my DS using the European RUU and I'm S-ON & Unrooted.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19171606
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Yes I know that works I have a Goldcard. The thing here is that I would like the phone to be completely unbranded without the need os special cards so in case i want to sell it or send it to warranty it won't be noticed that i changed something there. So if there is a way to re write de CID it would be good.

Well i actually successfully installed the unbranded european ROM 1.28.401.1 using the gold card. But now i can't receive OTA updates. Is there a way to get it to work?

Why don't you run the European RUU 2.10 version (RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed) from the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
That's what I did

smash_07 said:
Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?
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Just to answer your question:
(I may need to be corrected on this one)
Based on my observation and experimentation. The CID that you are trying to change, or the CID that the RUU is checking is actually on the build.prop on your phone.
Code:
ro.aa.maincid
But there are two checks that I've observed. Even though you changed the maincid, the corresponding cwkey should be changed accordingly.
cwkey created on your phone corresponds on what is on the build.prop and I believe is also being checked by RUUs.
And maybe just to be on the safe side, RUUs do check what is on your build.prop. If they are not what your RUU wants, it will not push through. Hence, you need a GoldCard.
I myself don't exactly, by codes, know how the GoldCard bypasses the checks. All I do know, is that it works.

Skanob said:
Just to answer your question:
(I may need to be corrected on this one)
Based on my observation and experimentation. The CID that you are trying to change, or the CID that the RUU is checking is actually on the build.prop on your phone.
Code:
ro.aa.maincid
But there are two checks that I've observed. Even though you changed the maincid, the corresponding cwkey should be changed accordingly.
cwkey created on your phone corresponds on what is on the build.prop and I believe is also being checked by RUUs.
And maybe just to be on the safe side, RUUs do check what is on your build.prop. If they are not what your RUU wants, it will not push through. Hence, you need a GoldCard.
I myself don't exactly, by codes, know how the GoldCard bypasses the checks. All I do know, is that it works.
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So what that means is the phone has to stay branded? There is no way that we can fully unbrand the phone by changing the CID?
And after we use the Goldcard what happens to the CID of the phone?

smash_07 said:
So what that means is the phone has to stay branded? There is no way that we can fully unbrand the phone by changing the CID?
And after we use the Goldcard what happens to the CID of the phone?
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The goldcard does not alter the CID. It just tells the bootloader to ignore the CID check when running a RUU.
One way to alter the CID is to XTC clip the phone.

Well i ended up doing what you all suggested and flashed the RUU with the 2.10 european rom with the goldcard in it.
But something went wrong and my Desire S is in a strange situation. For some reason the Goldcard did not work like the first time and gave me a CID error. But it flashed the hboot 2.00.0002 but retained the 1.28 rom i had installed on it. I have used the HTCDev method to unlock the bootloader but everytime i try to flash the 1.28 RUU again (to flash the old hboot again) it gives me an "unknown error" that is actually a security error.
Is there a way to get the old hboot back?

smash_07 said:
Well i ended up doing what you all suggested and flashed the RUU with the 2.10 european rom with the goldcard in it.
But something went wrong and my Desire S is in a strange situation. For some reason the Goldcard did not work like the first time and gave me a CID error. But it flashed the hboot 2.00.0002 but retained the 1.28 rom i had installed on it. I have used the HTCDev method to unlock the bootloader but everytime i try to flash the 1.28 RUU again (to flash the old hboot again) it gives me an "unknown error" that is actually a security error.
Is there a way to get the old hboot back?
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My reply to this post of yours is already a hint.
Use search PLEASE.

[Q] Sending Sensation back for repair - Warranty Q

So my Sensation was S-Off and rooted however it started to play up so went back to S-On and Un-rooted, HBOOT now reads ****Locked**** and S-On. Is this all I need to do, does something more need to be done, will they be able to tell? They said on the phone if warranty is voided then I must incur the cost of fixing it..
Id really appreciate your help guys.

If its fully stock with s-off and stock recovery your good to go

ilostchild said:
If its fully stock with s-off and stock recovery your good to go
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Ok thanks, how do I know if I have stock recovery?

Hi, i am sending mine back tomorrow as well.
Do I have to put it back to S-ON? I've heard its risky.

Best to, and it's not risky if you follow the guide to a T
Make sure you've set the CID back to what it should be before doing it (assuming you changed it in the first place)

Hey, it looks like mine's going back as well.
I'm a little unsure of which version HTC rom was default on it because I bought it from Pixmania and not a carrier.
It originally had Vodafone branding and the box is written in German.
I don't think I've changed off of the original kernel or radio as I've only switched roms through ROM Manager since I rooted the phone using these instructions.
-ANkh

I too am wondering the same thing, but my problem is slightly different. My phone wont even power on so i was unable to s-on factory rom it, im unsure of what exactly needs to be replaced on the phone so idk if theyre gonna be able to see that the software has been changed.

Hi again,
I found my CID: VODAP102, it's for Vodafone Germany.
Where can I find the matching stock ROM?
Thanks,
ANKh

Ankhwatcher said:
Hi again,
I found my CID: VODAP102, it's for Vodafone Germany.
Where can I find the matching stock ROM?
Thanks,
ANKh
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Stock rom are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559 , but No Voda DE. So Vodafone UK is logical path i presume...

dublinz said:
Stock rom are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559 , but No Voda DE. So Vodafone UK is logical path i presume...
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I'm not so sure. This guy had a Vodafone_DE RUU, so I've sent him a message begging him to re-post it.

EddyOS said:
Best to, and it's not risky if you follow the guide to a T
Make sure you've set the CID back to what it should be before doing it (assuming you changed it in the first place)
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Uhoh, i didn't change the CID back but I did S-ON...
Will they notice if its just a hardware repair?
Too late now, I guess I will find out...

Okay, my Sensation is ready to go for repairs:
I found an old HTC_Pyramid_Vodafone_DE RUU here.
I installed it. And updated... and updated... and updated...
Because I still had my original cid I was able to get my phone into fastboot and "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3".
Now my phone is running a stock rom with locked bootloader and locked S-On and stock recovery.
-ANkh

help i have my sensation at the newest ics, tried running this and said update failed unknown error, please help im desperate.

Ankhwatcher said:
Okay, my Sensation is ready to go for repairs:
I found an old HTC_Pyramid_Vodafone_DE RUU [...]
I installed it. And updated... and updated... and updated...
Because I still had my original cid I was able to get my phone into fastboot and "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3".
Now my phone is running a stock rom with locked bootloader and locked S-On and stock recovery.
-ANkh
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Hi,
was the method successful? Did they not recognize anything?
I have to return my Sensation for repair (dust under the screen), and i don't want to loose my warranty.

greg.house said:
Hi,
was the method successful? Did they not recognize anything?
I have to return my Sensation for repair (dust under the screen), and i don't want to loose my warranty.
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Yes it did, HTC UK repaired the phone and converted it to a stock HTC UK phone without any German or Vodafone stuff on it anymore.
They didn't charge me anything for it.

I've send my desire s back to HTC caus of some probs with my battery.. it was rooted and s-off.. when I get it back it was s-on and unrooted.. I've paid for nothing..
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using XDA

I sent my Sensation back a few weeks ago because the touchscreen stopped working with S-OFF and they didn't notice and is still S-OFF now!

HTC Sensation brended ?

Is it possible to check was it brended before I did root,Super CID and debrending procedure and which operator / theritory

Imperatorpg said:
Is it possible to check was it brended before I did root,Super CID and debrending procedure and which operator / theritory
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Sorry, not certain what you're asking here.
Is the phone currently Stock ?
Or has it been S-OFF'd, rooted, etc. and you want to get it back to have the Stock operator ROM ?
If you download "CID getter" from the market you can check a few things out. Mine for example through the app is:
Note: mine is S-OFF, FW 1.27.1100, SuperCID
[ro.aa.maincid]: [HTC__001]
[ro.carrier]: [VODA-UK]
[ro.cid]: [VODAP01] ------------------Original CID (not certain why it gives a different result to "adb getvar CID" which is "11111111").
If you run this app does it give the info you need ? Or are you after something else ?

gol_n_dal said:
Sorry, not certain what you're asking here.
Is the phone currently Stock ?
Or has it been S-OFF'd, rooted, etc. and you want to get it back to have the Stock operator ROM ?
If you download "CID getter" from the market you can check a few things out. Mine for example through the app is:
Note: mine is S-OFF, FW 1.27.1100, SuperCID
[ro.aa.maincid]: [HTC__001]
[ro.carrier]: [VODA-UK]
[ro.cid]: [VODAP01] ------------------Original CID (not certain why it gives a different result to "adb getvar CID" which is "11111111").
If you run this app does it give the info you need ? Or are you after something else ?
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I rooted my phone and made Super CID, I downloaded CID getter and result is HTC_032. I think for East Europe. So, what I must do to make it totaly stock because I want to return it on waranty. Thanks.

You need to find out what software version was originally on the phone. This is why it's important to make a note of it before you go flashing new ROMs as if there's no RUU you're screwed

I made backup before I rooted phone. So I restore it and install Hboot 1.17 but I know that was 1.18 before. Fw is 1.50.401.1, Android 2.3.4, HTC Sense 3.0, kernel 2.6.35.13., radio 10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01_M

Imperatorpg said:
I rooted my phone and made Super CID, I downloaded CID getter and result is HTC_032. I think for East Europe. So, what I must do to make it totaly stock because I want to return it on waranty. Thanks.
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So is there still a problem if you restored your backup ?
If you scroll down the list what does it say for the examples I gave below?
[ro.aa.maincid]: [????????]
[ro.carrier]: [????????]
[ro.cid]: [????????]

gol_n_dal said:
[ro.aa.maincid]: [????????] ? - cant find
[ro.carrier]: [HTC-East Europe]
[ro.cid]: [HTC_032]
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I did it today and testing if problem is gone.

still have problem with droping calls

[Q] What is superCID (11111111)

what are the benefits of doing super-CID (i.e. 11111111)
If i do superCID can I again restore to stock CID..
Please help

abhishek89 said:
what are the benefits of doing super-CID (i.e. 11111111)
If i do superCID can I again restore to stock CID..
Please help
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Certain things, e.g. RUUs, need to have the correct Carrier ID on the phone in order to install via the bootloader or recovery using the PG58IMG.zip process. The Latest Firmware packs for example are grouped together into sets, this is to allow you to install them if you don't have SuperCID. If you have got SuperCID you can install any of them as all the CID checks pass.
Another reason to change the CID if to allow you to install a generic RUU instead of the one that came with the phone, this allows you to remove the bloatware. For example I'm on Vodafone and I installed the generic Euro RUU purely to get rig of the Vodafone crap that came pre-installed.
The process to change it back is identical to the way you write the SuperCID just using your original CID (mine for example is VODAP001). IIRC HTC__01 is the generic CID

gol_n_dal said:
Certain things, e.g. RUUs, need to have the correct Carrier ID on the phone in order to install via the bootloader or recovery using the PG58IMG.zip process. The Latest Firmware packs for example are grouped together into sets, this is to allow you to install them if you don't have SuperCID. If you have got SuperCID you can install any of them as all the CID checks pass.
Another reason to change the CID if to allow you to install a generic RUU instead of the one that came with the phone, this allows you to remove the bloatware. For example I'm on Vodafone and I installed the generic Euro RUU purely to get rig of the Vodafone crap that came pre-installed.
The process to change it back is identical to the way you write the SuperCID just using your original CID (mine for example is VODAP001). IIRC HTC__01 is the generic CID
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So how do I install roms from different carriers

fatswaller4451 said:
So how do I install roms from different carriers
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first you need to S-OFF then supercid
after that you can use any ruu.exe

Super Cid
rzr86 said:
first you need to S-OFF then supercid
after that you can use any ruu.exe
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Hey thanks for your response
Ok so I have s-off and super Cid just a few more questions if u don't mind
1. can i install any ruu for any android phone or am I limited?
2. Will installing a ruu for another phone effect the way my current phone works
3. When installing a ruu.exe for another phone will I have to follow the same bootloader unlock method for that phone or my phone?
Sorry for the newbie questions but I have limited knowledge of super cid however I have been rooting for years now
I heard some bad things about super cid but have not had any issues thus far, the guide was very easy to follow and in fact just to make sure it was working I was able to ruu backwards
Thanks for your expertise you r awesome

fatswaller4451 said:
Hey thanks for your response
Ok so I have s-off and super Cid just a few more questions if u don't mind
1. can i install any ruu for any android phone or am I limited?
2. Will installing a ruu for another phone effect the way my current phone works
3. When installing a ruu.exe for another phone will I have to follow the same bootloader unlock method for that phone or my phone?
Sorry for the newbie questions but I have limited knowledge of super cid however I have been rooting for years now
I heard some bad things about super cid but have not had any issues thus far, the guide was very easy to follow and in fact just to make sure it was working I was able to ruu backwards
Thanks for your expertise you r awesome
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1)with s-off and supercid you are not limited
2)it won't affect anything at all
But probably you will have some official updates from the specific carrier(if you have)
3)I think it depends from the carrier of the Ruu you have chosen
But actually there is no need to unlock the bootloader because you are on s-off
Edit:in second and third question what do you mean by another phone?
I assume you mean another carrier
If yes then yes
If you mean another device(for example Samsung)then absolutely no
Of course you can use any ruu but only from sensation's devices
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

super cid
rzr86 said:
1)with s-off and supercid you are not limited
2)it won't affect anything at all
But probably you will have some official updates from the specific carrier(if you have)
3)I think it depends from the carrier of the Ruu you have chosen
But actually there is no need to unlock the bootloader because you are on s-off
Edit:in second and third question what do you mean by another phone?
I assume you mean another carrier
If yes then yes
If you mean another device(for example Samsung)then absolutely no
Of course you can use any ruu but only from sensation's devices
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
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So I have verified that I have super cid on my evo 4g lte by ruuing backward, however when I try flashing an htc one ruu i get an error message that its the wrong file, so i tried flashing an original evo 4g ruu and still get the same message
I am still s-off
relocked bootloader
super cid
hboot 2.0.9
latest firmware
am i missing something?
Thanks

fatswaller4451 said:
So I have verified that I have super cid on my evo 4g lte by ruuing backward, however when I try flashing an htc one ruu i get an error message that its the wrong file, so i tried flashing an original evo 4g ruu and still get the same message
I am still s-off
relocked bootloader
super cid
hboot 2.0.9
latest firmware
am i missing something?
Thanks
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wait man man
for which device are we talking about?
not for sensation?

EVO 4g lte
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app

fatswaller4451 said:
EVO 4g lte
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
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no maaaaannnnn
don't use any ruu for sensation to evo 4g
go to the evo 4g's thread and see there for ruu.exe files
this forum is only for sensation/xe/4g
i thought you were talking about sensation devices

Ok thanks for the info but I was talking about super cid and installing roms from different carrier's
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
---------- Post added at 12:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:06 PM ----------
I was following a previous thread
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app

to reduce the confusion
NO- you cant/shouldn't flash another model phone's RUU on another
there is a high chance of bricking the device if you do that

Does SuperCID also network unlocks the phone?
There is a lot of confusion on the internet about SuperCID. I have HTC One S which is locked to T-Mobile and I want to get it network unlocked. the "strings -n 8 /dev/block/mmcblk0p6" method did not show unlock_code for my phone (though it has worked for some other people). While googling I found that doing SuperCID by changing mmcblk0p4 can also network unlock the phone. Please let me know if you have some idea. Thanks.
gol_n_dal said:
Certain things, e.g. RUUs, need to have the correct Carrier ID on the phone in order to install via the bootloader or recovery using the PG58IMG.zip process. The Latest Firmware packs for example are grouped together into sets, this is to allow you to install them if you don't have SuperCID. If you have got SuperCID you can install any of them as all the CID checks pass.
Another reason to change the CID if to allow you to install a generic RUU instead of the one that came with the phone, this allows you to remove the bloatware. For example I'm on Vodafone and I installed the generic Euro RUU purely to get rig of the Vodafone crap that came pre-installed.
The process to change it back is identical to the way you write the SuperCID just using your original CID (mine for example is VODAP001). IIRC HTC__01 is the generic CID
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S-OFF and warranty

I am sorry, because this have probably been asked many times, but I have a little more specific question. I have HTC Sensation rooted, and S-OFF. Now I want to send it to the service under warranty, because I noticed there is a dust under my screen.
I know what I have to do, but I dont know which default rom should I choose, so they definitely would not suspect anything. Does it have to be carrier specific or just some random EU rom? I am from Slovenia, my carrier is Simobil (Vodafone).
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

you need to flash one based on your cid which kinda gives you carrier,country info
use this guide as reference

Thank you, i just read this, however I still dont know how to find the right ruu for my phone. There is no Simobil Slovenia on the ruu list. Any other way to find out which rom to flash? The thing is I dont really remember whether I changed my CID at some point or not, so I might not be able to see/find the correct one.
Thanks again.

Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?

vrocipes said:
Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?
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Hi,
CIDGetter will show you your original CID.
When you check it via fastboot,you will get your ACTUAL CID.
If you are s-off,then , you should be able to run a European RUU and get back to stock.
Then, follow the guide ganesh gave you to s-on.

vrocipes said:
Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?
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the cid you got via fastboot is the current one you are having
and HTC_032 is the rom cid ..so if you are having stock rom ..it represents your actual cid

Thank you both for your answers. Hmm, so one of you think that CIDgetter gives you original cid, and one thinks it gives you the CID of current rom. If ganeshp is right, then I still dont know my original CID, as currently I have Viper S 1.3.5 rom :// If malybru is right then I have to flash rom with HTC_032 CID and not just any European rom? Again it is important, because I dont want to get rejected on my warranty...
Thanks again.

vrocipes said:
Thank you both for your answers. Hmm, so one of you think that CIDgetter gives you original cid, and one thinks it gives you the CID of current rom. If ganeshp is right, then I still dont know my original CID, as currently I have Viper S 1.3.5 rom :// If malybru is right then I have to flash rom with HTC_032 CID and not just any European rom? Again it is important, because I dont want to get rejected on my warranty...
Thanks again.
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both of us (me and Malybru ) are saying the same thing
cid from fastboot ..gives you the actual/current cid you have right now
cid from cid getter ..will give you the rom cid (in case of viper it is HTC__032)
also based on your country ..i think the fitting RUU is indeed is of European Unbranded one (as malybru said )
if the phone is not linked to carrier (like contract phone ) then European unbranded is the right RUU

It has been bought through carrier contract, but they stopped locking them, but it could still be locked in case it was from old stock... I'll have to try that, so in case it is locked to the carrier, I need different rom? Im sorry for so many questions but im really lost in finding the right rom.