I'm almost certain that I know the answer to my question. I have tried finding xda development on ROM's for numerous phones using the CDMA technology and find they are almost non-existent. I assume this is primarily due to the market share that GSM phones has...one internet post put it @ 70%. Is this theory plausible?
Probably, considering there are a lot more development going on GSM phones as opposed to CDMA. That doesn't mean CDMA development is non existent, specifically the Sprint HTC EVO, EVO 3D, E4GT, etc.
Non-Existent was too general, I should've mentioned my CDMA carriers and....
...specifically US Cellular and Verizon. I was looking at their various Samsung offerings. What can I say about that, <g>. They are the 2 major carriers where I "play." I am currently on i Wireless, a subsidiary of T-Mobile, which of course is GSM, and I have found lots of development for my Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant. I am considering switching to a 4G phone and one of those carriers which have signals where I play, as my carrier doesn't and probably never will. I have thoroughly enjoyed the after marker ROM's here and many know how "bad" Samsung is about firmware upgrades. I guess choices one way or the other need to be made.
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Just wondering if Google will try again to have this new Nexus out on all 4 major carriers? That would be perfect and bring some much needed competition in the market. If your favorite phone is available on all carriers then you just chosse the best service and price. I think Apple should that too with their iPhones. Would force carriers to be better priced.
But specifically wondering if Sprint will get the Nexus-S soon? I dumped my EVO for the N-S and love the phone just not thrilled with T-Mobile spotty service and practically no service inside my house or other buildings. Where as the EVO worked non stop perfect inside anywhere even basements.
Thank you.
Very unlikely since the whole "Nexus" brand was to deliver a device that's unlocked, and supports international bands, therefore it's GSM.
It's unlikely, but I have my fingers crossed!
One of the reasons I think Google went with Samsung with this Nexus is because HTC failed to deliver on their main goal for the Nexus One: to create a carrier-ambiguous device that can be used on any carrier(obviously a CDMA version on CDMA network, and GSM on GSM network blahblahbalh).
Samsung proved that they had that ability to bring their Galaxy S lineup to each major carrier.
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It's unlikely, but I have my fingers crossed!
One of the reasons I think Google went with Samsung with this Nexus is because HTC failed to deliver on their main goal for the Nexus One: to create a carrier-ambiguous device that can be used on any carrier(obviously a CDMA version on CDMA network, and GSM on GSM network blahblahbalh).
Samsung proved that they had that ability to bring their Galaxy S lineup to each major carrier.
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I'd love a Nexus S type device on Verizon.
Do you think Google blamed HTC for not delivering a CDMA phone? I always thought HTC just made the phone, and Google worried about getting it "out there." I thought Verizon just wasn't interested, at the time, in a phone that Verizon didn't control the software on; that's always been a major complaint with VZW by geeks (like me) who want to control what's on their phone and what's not.
On sprint I have the ns with a keyboard, but sprint is so slow delivering updates compared to google that we're all still waiting for 2.2, let alone 2.3
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On sprint I have the ns with a keyboard, but sprint is so slow delivering updates compared to google that we're all still waiting for 2.2, let alone 2.3
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Yeah, that's the allure of the actual NS over any of the Galaxy S phones (Epic, Vibrant, i9000, Fascinate, Captivate), the direct AOSP first and fast from Google, and written specifically to that hardware.
The build quality and "feel" of my NS is far superior to my i9000, not that it's bad in the other devices, but they really got it right with the NS.
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On sprint I have the ns with a keyboard, but sprint is so slow delivering updates compared to google that we're all still waiting for 2.2, let alone 2.3
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Not if you're on a rooted Epic we're not
All the U.S. Cdma carriers were late with the first wave of wp7 devices. I'm with Verizon and we didn't get the HTC Trophy until June. Sprint got HTC arrive a couple month earlier but by the time those devices were released in the U.S. they were already year old devices.
So 6 months later GSM is getting the roll out of the mango phones with front facing cameras and those of us with cdma arrives and trophies are looking with no signs of a cdma wp7 with a ff cam in sight. What gives?
How come HTC and Samsung aren't making cdma variants of their phones they give carriers and bringing them to cdma carriers? Like how they brought variants of the HTC touch pro 2 and the HTC evo to all the carriers?
Anyone else getting angry with the lackluster cdma support? Why aren't they launching more phones than just the ones that seemingly come out annually?
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My bet is that Sprint and Verizon are effectively done with bringing CDMA phones to market and they don't want a new phone unless it is an iPhone or 4G (LTE and/or WiMax).
I expect Verizon phones once LTE support hits with Tango.
It'll be spring.
I, for one, am really happy VZW got a 3G WP7 phone. I am in an area that prob will get LTE in the LAST phase of any roll out (we got 3G in Oct 2010). I was also able to get it before the end of unlimited data.
What is killing me isn't carrier support, but hack support. I would love to developed a ROM for the HTC Trophy, but I have the CDMA Verizon version, and it has yet to be unlocked.
I know part of this is that the unlock devs are in China and do not have access to the CDMA Trophy.. but it seems no one wants to get together and buy/send them a Trophy CDMA to work on. :/
I know I can't afford it myself.. and for some reason the price has increased on Amazon Wireless (the phone alone was going for $388, now its $479)... but perhaps if a bunch of us chipped in we could send them one.
I have talked to mwang and cotulla and offered to buy them both Verizon trophies . They have both told me that they have cdma devices in hand and are currently testing .. I know it's taking a while , but the good news is that it IS being worked on . I want a DFT rom as bad as anyone ...hell id settle for interop unlock .. I suppose we just have to be patient .
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Well, it's good to know that its a work in progress. I just pray that the unlock will be based on the 7.5 rom.. many people got burnt by installing the demo rom... (well, maybe you could base it on the demo rom??). The only way to get rid of the demo rom was to install the leaked 7.5 rom (I was refused RMA because of the demo).
Oh well, if I have to go back to the demo just to unlock, I'll pray that is a workable option (many can't unlock after getting 7.5 roms).
Well, there simply are much less CDMA carriers in the world than there are GSM/UMTS ones. Given that Verizon and Sprint seem not to be too much into WP7 that explains why developing those devices is a low priority to the manufacturers.
It is a bit strange considering the Sprint Touch Pro/TP2 were the more popular devices back in the WM days then any of the other carrier devices. Now with the Arrive being almost a direct successor of the Touch Pro 2, you would think it would have gotten the same dedicated treatment, sadly, this is not the case. I do hope Sprint continues with the Arrive and whatever comes next has the same keyboard and a more refined design with the Titan like upgrades.
A 4" screen with the same keyboard, 1.5Ghz processor, and all the other Mango bells and whistles would be grand.
The most frank response is very simple:
The entire world uses GSM.
I know of all of two, maybe three countries where there are even CDMA networks. If I was making a phone, I wouldn't even be thinking about CDMA unless I was selling millions of units and expansion was easiest by using the inferior (whether true or not technologically, CMDA is inferior in a pure business sense) technology.
I know this is true too.
I can't wait for LTE to roll out and put Verizon on the same playing field as most of the world, but I also know that my area will likely be the last, even if it is being used as the primary example of how broadband internet needs to be pushed out to rural areas.
I mean, the other carriers in this area just plain don't care. Dial 16407 as the zipcode into the AT&T and Sprint coverage areas, and you'll see that neither has even got 3G up and running in this area.. let alone 4G! T-Mobile = non-existent.
I can't even get DSL on my outer rims road because Verizon (which just happens to be my land line provider) won't run DSL down it because of a massive farm that takes up the first 1/3 of this section of road!?!
Anyone who says "just move" is ignorant and should be shot.
I was wondering if the Evo LTE is gonna get a forum of its own, since it is under the Evo brand, not under the one brand.
Then again, they are basically the same, under the hood wise. The At&t version is being placed in the One XL forum. Then again both of those devices are GSM while the evo lte is cdma.
The reason i ask is because i plan on dev'ing on it.
So, my question is, will the Evo 4g LTE get a forum of its own, or will it be placed here?
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I was wondering if the Evo LTE is gonna get a forum of its own, since it is under the Evo brand, not under the one brand.
Then again, they are basically the same, under the hood wise. The At&t version is being placed in the One XL forum. Then again both of those devices are GSM while the evo lte is cdma.
The reason i ask is because i plan on dev'ing on it.
So, my question is, will the Evo 4g LTE get a forum of its own, or will it be placed here?
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This isn't the correct place to post about this issue. Of course the EVO 4G LTE will have its own forum. I can guarantee that much. It'll be a big launch this year, and XDA members will be all over it.
Having said that, you'll need to wait until we edge closer to a release date. Right now, rumors are swirling for a June date. That means we're still a bit far off from launch.
I would add that, since the phones aren't the same specs, it will not be included in the One XL forum. There are a plethora of differences that would make a combined section very ugly and disorganized. Have patience and the forum will be created as we near a launch date.
My carrier is US Cellular, but I notice this site has very little for the carrier. They have many of the newest phones, I picked up a note 3 (SM-N900R4) from there a little bit ago, and went to xda to find out what they had. I noticed that there are many threads for the seperate carriers, but not for US Cellular, this didn't affect me too much with my old phone, the mesmerize (SCH-I500), but most of the differences were small and could be overcome by using romkonverter. But I'm sure I'm not the only one getting frustrated with this site's lack of US Cellular support. What I'm asking is why is there so little support for US Cellular? Could I do anything about it?
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My carrier is US Cellular, but I notice this site has very little for the carrier. They have many of the newest phones, I picked up a note 3 (SM-N900R4) from there a little bit ago, and went to xda to find out what they had. I noticed that there are many threads for the seperate carriers, but not for US Cellular, this didn't affect me too much with my old phone, the mesmerize (SCH-I500), but most of the differences were small and could be overcome by using romkonverter. But I'm sure I'm not the only one getting frustrated with this site's lack of US Cellular support. What I'm asking is why is there so little support for US Cellular? Could I do anything about it?
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i guess i would say that us cellular is a a bit more unpopular then Verizon/t-mobile/at&t carriers. its kinda strange that virgin mobile gets some devices on here such as the lg optimus V which is still being sold and is a great phone for such little specs. you could check here http://teamuscellular.com/Forum/forum/259-android-development/ i just recently found out about it
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i guess i would say that us cellular is a a bit more unpopular then Verizon/t-mobile/at&t carriers. its kinda strange that virgin mobile gets some devices on here such as the lg optimus V which is still being sold and is a great phone for such little specs.
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I'm seeing development for the note 3 all over on xda, but the site you linked me to has very little to say about anything related to the note 3. I know there is development going on for the US Cellular note 3 because in the generic note 3 page (no carrier labeled), there is maybe one or two examples of things listing the SM-N900R4 as compatible, but not nearly as much as I would imagine, considering they all use the same hardware. For my mez, the only difference with that and the fascinate were the apns, you could flash kernels and roms for fassy on mez without romkonverter. I don't know what differences are in all the variances, but what I would like to know is, how could I actively get this site more involved with the development US Cellular devices?
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I'm seeing development for the note 3 all over on xda, but the site you linked me to has very little to say about anything related to the note 3. I know there is development going on for the US Cellular note 3 because in the generic note 3 page (no carrier labeled), there is maybe one or two examples of things listing the SM-N900R4 as compatible, but not nearly as much as I would imagine, considering they all use the same hardware. For my mez, the only difference with that and the fascinate were the apns, you could flash kernels and roms for fassy on mez without romkonverter. I don't know what differences are in all the variances, but what I would like to know is, how could I actively get this site more involved with the development US Cellular devices?
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probably only developing a rom on your own or with another person. start with Cyanogenmod, always the easiest to me.
Hi all. So I have been looking a lot at new phones. Based on my budget I found myself looking at Chinese phones(ZTE, Elephone,DooGee). And WoW, There are some sweet ass phones out there and for really fair prices. A lot of which are 4g LTE compatible, but what I noticed is almost none of them are able to handle 4g lte in the US.
So my question is; Can this be changed? Are the missing bands limited by hardware or software? Could a skilled programmer make a Chinese phone work on local 4g networks? Or is it a hardware thing?
Thanks all. cheers
ps; I bought a Zen2 but this still is on my mind.