Anyone have info on the t-mobile version's UMTS Bands?
I know during FCC testing I heard something about 850 / 1900 being included but I'm looking for confirmation.
I have the Black MAO model with just 850 it seems to work fine in NYC on At&t. I know with the Amaze the Bands werent advertised but 850 / 1900 was included in the tmobile Amaze anyway.
What kind of dl speed are you getting?
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International And Tmo version get 3G on ATT. International will not get Tmo 4G.
sl8125 said:
What kind of dl speed are you getting?
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Yes, please, let us know. I'm also curious as I want the MAO version, but if it's not coming to T-Mobile, I'd like to know how it works in the U.S.
Im using the MAO version and ive seen 3 down 1-1.5 up in nyc but my battery life is only 10 - 12 hours. Im getting nothing like the 24 hour spans other people have mentioned. and i dont watch videos or make long calls.
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Yes, please, let us know. I'm also curious as I want the MAO version, but if it's not coming to T-Mobile, I'd like to know how it works in the U.S.
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The MAO version does not get T-Mobile 3G.
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If i import an unlocked global version will i be able to use 3g on ATT? The reason i ask is that this is the sexiest phone ive seen in a long time.
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If i import an unlocked global version will i be able to use 3g on ATT? The reason i ask is that this is the sexiest phone ive seen in a long time.
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Based on GSMArena the 3G bands are HSDPA 850/900/2100, so it will work in 850 with AT&T, but there are areas where you'll need 1900 to get 3G and you would only get Edge.
I'm not sure if GSMArena info is accurate but I understand that there should be a HTC One S for T-Mobile and that would require 1700/2100 so there's another coming with different bands or GSMArena is wrong...
There were posts on a number of blogs such as engadget that the t-mobile variant had AWS bands plus 850/1900 for AT&T. That would be great if it did. Wondering if the band specification was determined before the merger fell apart.
So the International Version has no 4G support that has been established; however, their could be a possible way to still get 4G. I have seen with the SG2 International and The SG2 Tmo if you flash the modem of the tmo one onto the international they got 4G on Tmo. I have also read that i think it was the nexus or galaxy note or something had a locked band that they unlocked.... I heard that a radio probably wont change anything but does anyone else have any ideas?
Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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dislplin01 said:
Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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Don't like waiting and I travel a lot.
Personally I think you should just wait you gaffe the s2 so it's not like you dying from a crappy phone and that way you would know it works properly I'm not sure about the one s but I know on my HTC sensation there is a extra antenna for the 4 g and we can't even buy a extra battery cover unless it had that antenna or we loose 4g
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I already HAVE the one s I came from the amaze for the record. Interesting thoughts.
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What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
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What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
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Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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So say its all over and theirs no changing it. Those of us who had no idea that it wouldn't work is their any way would could minupulate HTC or Tmo into giving us a version that will suport it. You could play the "It says hspa+ on your website"
The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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joshnichols189 said:
The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
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Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
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It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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htc fan89 said:
It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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So people wouldn't buy one to use it for a carrier it wasn't meant to be on? If the band is only in the T-Mobile version and people are on T-Mobile, their only choice is to buy it from T-Mobile if they want 3G.
T-Mobile probably doesn't want people buying their flagship off contract.
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Anyone know of this is real. I didn't think they made a Pentaband one s. I will probably contact them tomorrow. It's also in black.
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
I've bought from SNtraders in the passt
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
Doubt it, but if it is, I'd love to know. I'd be all in for that one.
As far as I know the HTC One S international version does not have the 1900 3G band for at&t, only the Tmobile version does(pentaband) & this is because tmobile is currently in the process of refarming their network to add the 1900 3G band which has always been the 3G frequency used by at&t in the U.S. This means if you get the tmobile branded One S it will definitely work with the at&t 3G just like the HTC Amaze 4G would also, hope this helps
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As far as I know the HTC One S international version does not have the 1900 3G band for at&t, only the Tmobile version does(pentaband) & this is because tmobile is currently in the process of refarming their network to add the 1900 3G band which has always been the 3G frequency used by at&t in the U.S. This means if you get the tmobile branded One S it will definitely work with the at&t 3G just like the HTC Amaze 4G would also, hope this helps
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that's correct. using a us tmobile htc one s on ATT right now
however, one issue I have run into is that sometimes data doesnt work. It remains "connected" constantly, but then up/down data is always cutting.. dont know if its a software or hardware problem
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Doubt it, but if it is, I'd love to know. I'd be all in for that one.
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As would I..
Hey I have looked around and have heard differing reports saying that some are and some aren't. What I want to know is is the Telus version of the phone Pentaband? My aunt got the phone and I might be getting it when she is finished and it would be helpful to know
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Hey I have looked around and have heard differing reports saying that some are and some aren't. What I want to know is is the Telus version of the phone Pentaband? My aunt got the phone and I might be getting it when she is finished and it would be helpful to know
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It's not pentaband, but the chip DOES support both 850 Mhz and 1700 Mhz (strange, I know). I believe it's actually quadband WCDMA which means it'll work on Wind/Mobilicity (I have the Telus version too and use it on Wind currently and Rogers prior). It won't work in Europe though, if you travel a lot because I believe they use 900 Mhz out there, which is the band this phone doesn't support.
I've attached proof that it does work on Wind with data, but I don't know how to prove I'm using the Telus model... Just trust me I guess?
AFAIK: Only TMOUS' One S is pentaband.
Check the first table here for frequencies supported on different versions: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/7
Thanks for getting back to me =D I had looked around and found differing reports some sites would only have the international one and some would only have the T-mobile one.
Well i guess her's is not Pentaband but I don't mine losing Eurpoean roaming it has the ones i need (AWS) :laugh:
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Thanks for getting back to me =D I had looked around and found differing reports some sites would only have the international one and some would only have the T-mobile one.
Well i guess her's is not Pentaband but I don't mine losing Eurpoean roaming it has the ones i need (AWS) :laugh:
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Yeah contrary to belief, the Canadian One S is NOT the "international" version, but rather the T-Mobile version.
If you want further clarification, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)
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PJ40110 should be written inside the SIM cover thing. It was on mine. I did a lot of digging around to find out whether or not my phone supported AWS. I really hated being with Rogers so I switched to Wind, but I wanted to make sure my dream phone would work before I switched.
I live in Ohio. Here we have T-Mobile and local Cincinnati Bell. Cincinnati Bell gets all their phones from T-Mobile. So if you can get your hands on a Cincinnati Bell One S, that is also pentaband. I have one.
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I live in Ohio. Here we have T-Mobile and local Cincinnati Bell. Cincinnati Bell gets all their phones from T-Mobile. So if you can get your hands on a Cincinnati Bell One S, that is also pentaband. I have one.
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This is misleading information as it is more correctly quadband WCDMA. Pentaband WCDMA would include 900 Mhz as well, which the T-Mobile One S does not have.
Yeah, the Telus One S is pentaband, the T-Mobile One S us quadband(it's missing 900mhz).
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Yeah, the Telus One S is pentaband, the T-Mobile One S us quadband(it's missing 900mhz).
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I don't believe this is the case either. My research has yielded that the only FCC clearance this phone has is 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz.
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I don't believe this is the case either. My research has yielded that the only FCC clearance this phone has is 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz.
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Which version are you referring to? That would be correct for the T-Mobile version.
According to manbearpig(who is selling his Telus One S), his Telus version is pentaband.
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If you want further clarification, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)
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Which version are you referring to? That would be correct for the T-Mobile version.
According to manbearpig(who is selling his Telus One S), his Telus version is pentaband.
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I don't know who manbearpig is, but he is wrong. The Telus One S (and all Canadian One S') only support 850/1700/1900/2100. That's 4, not 5 bands. You can look inside your One S SIM cover right now, it says PJ40110 underneath the FCC label.
The Telus One S will NOT work on European WCDMA networks. It is pentaband GSM but not for the WCDMA radio.
If you can show me how the Canadian One S is pentaband, then I will yield. I'm not trying to be a ****, but I've done my research and these are the results and I'm trying to make it clear for anyone who reads this. I hate it when I find misleading info on the internet.
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I don't know who manbearpig is, but he is wrong. The Telus One S (and all Canadian One S') only support 850/1700/1900/2100. That's 4, not 5 bands. You can look inside your One S SIM cover right now, it says PJ40110 underneath the FCC label.
The Telus One S will NOT work on European WCDMA networks. It is pentaband GSM but not for the WCDMA radio.
If you can show me how the Canadian One S is pentaband, then I will yield. I'm not trying to be a ****, but I've done my research and these are the results and I'm trying to make it clear for anyone who reads this. I hate it when I find misleading info on the internet.
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You could be right. Here's the thread where manbearpig was selling his Telus One S and people asked him questions about whether it is truly pentaband.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771097
This is the phone he claims to have: http://www.canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
You could ask the new owner of the phone to check the box, the T-Mobile One S has the bands listed on the box.
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You could be right. Here's the thread where manbearpig was selling his Telus One S and people asked him questions about whether it is truly pentaband.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771097
This is the phone he claims to have: http://www.canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
You could ask the new owner of the phone to check the box, the T-Mobile One S has the bands listed on the box.
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I'm not sure that is exactly the phone he has/had as I was going to buy it from him until he told me it is the silver/blue version. The canadagsm site only lists black as available as far as I can tell. MBP did not say that's where he got it, somebody else posted that link inferring it is the same one. Personally, I am betting it is only a physically unbranded T-mobile US version running an unbranded ROM
I'll PM the new owner later and ask him to check the box.
Edit: PM sent.
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Whatever it is...it works on WIND
Hi Peops,
Greetings from Can-eh-da!
Thanks to a few postings I saw up in here, and a sweet pre-Christmas deal going on at Wind Mobile, I decided to take a $25 non-refundable SIM card bet on the information posted on these forums, specifically that unlocked HTC One-S phones with the PJ40110 model number *may* work on WIND because it supports AWS.
Using thread #13 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673378&page=2, I found out I might have a ONe-S that works on Wind...I was right!
Hope this helps someone the way I was helped!
Tske care, eh!
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From what I hear the 1900mhz band for T-Mobile in Vegas gets 4g speeds. Wondering if anyone out there has an international phone model and can tell us about the speeds. I made the mistake about buying the International model, because it's black. I love this phone even though I lack 4g speeds currently, but I'm curious at what's coming.
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From what I hear the 1900mhz band for T-Mobile in Vegas gets 4g speeds. Wondering if anyone out there has an international phone model and can tell us about the speeds. I made the mistake about buying the International model, because it's black. I love this phone even though I lack 4g speeds currently, but I'm curious at what's coming.
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The international version and the T-Mo branded device have the same radios. They read the same frequencies. There would be NO difference in performance. What you can do it change your build.prop for T-Mo specifics or install a T-Mo based ROM. Either way, there should be no differences with 4G.
No they don't. Currently only the T-Mobile one S supports 4g speeds.
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No they don't. Currently only the T-Mobile one S supports 4g speeds.
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I've run us radios and eu radios... It's the same firmware for the same hardware. Any difference in performance is ROM based
Here's the deal:
Before refarm:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G+/4G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100
After refarm:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800
3G+/4G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
All depends on where you are (location/tower)
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I've run us radios and eu radios... It's the same firmware for the same hardware. Any difference in performance is ROM based
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The international model does not have AWS bands though from what all info online says.
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The international model does not have AWS bands though from what all info online says.
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For a second I was starting to doubt myself.
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For a second I was starting to doubt myself.
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Btw the refarm in Las Vegas is done, so if you are in Vegas (as i am) and are not seeing "4g" speeds yet, you likely never will. I now get hspa+ speeds in some areas where i used to get edge speeds.
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Btw the refarm in Las Vegas is done, so if you are in Vegas (as i am) and are not seeing "4g" speeds, you never will.
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I'm in NY. I'm asking because I wanted to know what kind of speeds people were getting. Hopefully by middle of next year I'll get them. If not sooner I hope.
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I'm in NY. I'm asking because I wanted to know what kind of speeds people were getting. Hopefully by middle of next year I'll get them. If not sooner I hope.
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International version should max out at a theoretical 21 Mb. So maybe speeds around 11 Mb for you.