[Q] Privacy concerns with used phones - HTC Sensation

I've just received the HTC Sensation that I recently won on eBay! However, something occurred to me: how do I know the seller hasn't installed a keylogger or something? I've done a factory reset, but that doesn't affect the system partition. I'm about to go through the whole S-OFF/root/flash procedure, but I'd love some reassurance first. Will flashing a new ROM definitely remove anything malicious? Any tips on how I can ensure my privacy?

Install the proper RUU for the device and it will restore the system partition to factory standards.
BTW: It's not likely that someone unlocked, rooted, installed malicious software, and then un-rooted and relocked the device. Possible, but not likely at all...
You can also browse your system partition with adb, or by using a root file explorer such as root explorer.

Installing a new rom will wipe everything (except the sd card, but you can format that from windows, or use your own lol) and most roms support superwipe which will remove anything that was ever on the device. For extra peace of mind though, you can install Lookout (search Google Play Store) when you've installed your rom, as that has a virus scanner built in (and it's free) so you can make sure you never download dodgy apps.
Hope that helps!
Wow, I really need to go easy on the brackets lol

GROGG88 said:
BTW: It's not likely that someone unlocked, rooted, installed malicious software, and then un-rooted and relocked the device. Possible, but not likely at all...
You can also browse your system partition with adb, or by using a root file explorer such as root explorer.
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I know it's not likely, but you never know.... I'm usually not paranoid like this though. I think I'm turning into my mother.
I did look over the files quickly, but I don't really know what to look for. And even if I did, it could be masquerading as something legit.
lifeisfaked said:
Installing a new rom will wipe everything (except the sd card, but you can format that from windows, or use your own lol) and most roms support superwipe which will remove anything that was ever on the device. For extra peace of mind though, you can install Lookout (search Google Play Store) when you've installed your rom, as that has a virus scanner built in (and it's free) so you can make sure you never download dodgy apps.
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That's sort of what I've already been doing. I don't have access to the Market atm because it requires your password and that's precisely what made me think of keyloggers and malware in the first place. Instead, I took the apk for Avast! from my old phone and installed it via adb.
Thanks for the advice!

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[Q] How can I get rid of the bloatware?

I dont know where to begin or what to do. Do I have to turn s-off? I just want my phone a little more snappy. Also, is it possibld to dual boot sense 3.0 and srock gingerbread?
You can either turn S-off, root your phone and then, with a file explorer like Root explorer or ES file, delete the apps you want to get rid off;
or you can set a temp root (there's plenty of things related to this in Dev section) and with the same way, delete your apps.
There's a much easier method. Still requires S-OFF, but you don't have to do it manually.
WARNING: THIS WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY. PLEASE ONLY PROCEED IF YOU ARE SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS.
Firstly, get S-OFF with AlphaRevX's Revolutionary tool. Let it flash ClockWorkMod Recovery as well. Then flash this file in recovery to achieve root. Once done, reboot into Android (it's still the stock ROM). You then need to go into the Market and install an app called ROM Manager. Give it Superuser rights (Superuser is the front end for root). Then, right at the top, you have an option: Flash ClockWorkMod Recovery. Choose this option, select your phone model (HTC Sensation, only one in the list). It will now flash a new ClockWorkMod that's generally better than the one you flashed and used before hand.
Next, you need to install a custom ROM. This is still Sense (for now, it won't be at the end of this guide!). The custom ROM is called Android Revolution HD. This ROM is really fast, very optimized, and generally a great ROM. Download it and flash it through ClockWorkMod Recovery (reboot into ClockWorkMod by choosing Reboot into Recovery option in ROM Manager). Remember to do a nandroid backup by using the backup/restore option in ClockWorkMod.
The maker of this ROM also makes a Script called No Sense. Here's the post all about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14191947&postcount=2
Once the ROM has finished flashing, stay in recovery (it is essential you stay in ClockWorkMod Recovery) and flash the No Sense script I mentioned earlier. Once the No Sense script has flashed, you can reboot.
You should now be bloatware free! This is still a Sense ROM, but it removes Sense. Unfortunately, Pure Gingerbread and CyanogenMod aren't available yet, but I should think they will be soon.
Hope this helps! Feel free to ask any questions, it is quite complicated
Much like everyone else here, I've successfully S-OFFed and rooted my Sensation. I am perfectly happy with stock Sense, so the first thing I wanted to do is get rid of crap like TeleNAV, Slacker, and other bloatware that has an annoying habit of running in the background. Using Root Manager, which has worked for me successfully on my previous phones, I uninstalled the apk and, where applicable, the odex files for all the bloat apps that I wanted to remove, cleared the cache, and rebooted the phone. To my surprise, not only did the app icons still appear in the app drawer, but the associated apps still opened and ran!
I am not exactly new to rooting, and have successfully removed bloatware from other phones. I am not really interested in flashing a custom ROM at this point. Short of that, any suggestions?
kgbkny said:
Much like everyone else here, I've successfully S-OFFed and rooted my Sensation. I am perfectly happy with stock Sense, so the first thing I wanted to do is get rid of crap like TeleNAV, Slacker, and other bloatware that has an annoying habit of running in the background. Using Root Manager, which has worked for me successfully on my previous phones, I uninstalled the apk and, where applicable, the odex files for all the bloat apps that I wanted to remove, cleared the cache, and rebooted the phone. To my surprise, not only did the app icons still appear in the app drawer, but the associated apps still opened and ran!
I am not exactly new to rooting, and have successfully removed bloatware from other phones. I am not really interested in flashing a custom ROM at this point. Short of that, any suggestions?
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I am in the same boat as you, if the apps are still open and there, whats the point in even rooting? I like Sense 3.0 and I think my phone is fast enough after a fresh reboot, I just want it to be almost as fast by the time my battery dies 20-25hours later and I was hoping deleting or freezing all those background apps I don't use should help with this.
I don't want to dual boot if it's not stock gingerbread or cyanogenmod and I really like sense 3.0 for some reason. All I want do is get rid of all these boat ware and make it as much of such sense that I can, but it looks like you guys are having a lot of trouble
Has anyone been able to successfully remove bloatware after rooting and S-OFFing their Sensations? Any assistance will be appreciated.
***UPDATE: I installed Titanium Backup and used it to remove the bloatware. Worked like a charm!
kgbkny said:
Has anyone been able to successfully remove bloatware after rooting and S-OFFing their Sensations? Any assistance will be appreciated.
***UPDATE: I installed Titanium Backup and used it to remove the bloatware. Worked like a charm!
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Can anyone confirm this?!
i can confirm this works, have had bloatware of my choice removed for over a week through Ti backup and it works perfectly... never had any problems... I got the tip from reading the suggestions in insertcoin rom's op (thanks baad)... some people have had apps reappearing using root explorer but not with Ti... and you know its working because if you keep track of your memory on there you can watch it increase as you delete the apps..
+1 for using titanium never had a problem
Tried Titanium, did the trick.
Also used Titanium to trash the bloat!
Do we have a list of applications that are SAFE to remove with Titanium backup? I don't want to mess it up. I had to BORROW a computer to even root my phone so can't risk bricking it.
Yes, but you may need to buy the pro key to acces that feature, choose batch then you'll see a list of choices to run
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I meant like for my previous phone Xperia there was a list of apps that are safe to remove on wiki page. I didn't find this for Sensation so I wonder if there is a list somewhere else. On xperia I was using Root uninstaller from Market to unistall.
There was a thread a while back that summarized what could be removed:
[GUIDE] Disabling system/bloatware apps using temp root
Thanks! The thread talks about disabling, not removing though. I take it no more harm can be done by removing right?

Need Help, We Believe We are Being Remote Accessed.

My friend had a nerd friend of hers root her phone for her. She reports it took the person 7 hours to finish the job, which we find suspicious. Here is the phone info after root job, please let us now if there's any other info you need in order to help us:
T-Mobile::
Samsung SGH-T769
Android Version 4.1.2
kernel version 3.0.49-cyanogenod-ga56844d
[email protected]#1
CyanogenMod Verson
10-20121125-NIGHTLY-1769
CM Updater has been stuck downloading for two days now.. I've only ever done one successful root myself, to my Galaxy S3, so the only thing I can think of is to unroot. The main concern we have is that the person who did the rooting now has remote access to her device functions and cameras, seeing as he also did work to her laptop and once it connected to her home network after she got it back from him, it was remote accessing her other devices and shared files on her network, as well as her webcam and microphone.
What you posted is what anyone running cyanogenmod has in /about phone, same as mine.lol
Just look through your file explorer and see what you find and than Google search it. Install avast from play store and it can detect malware or conflicting apps, it also has firewall settings if you install as rooted when prompted. If you find a suspicious app please do post. For curiosities sake..
Its not cyanogenmod its good no worries, ask the other 3 million+ users
Hah, if you are worried about remote access, cyanogenmod doesn't have anything to do with it.
Having said that, there *are* things that a malicious person could install on your phone, especially with access to it for 7 hours, to make you frightened.
Many of these kinds of apps are geared towards peace of mind for the owner, so they can retrieve it if the phone gets lost or stolen.
However, the tools are very powerful. Being able to remotely take audio/photos/video, show your location, turn off the phone, upload photos/video taken with the phone, etc...
Some of these services will survive a "return to stock" when done in the phone. Heh, you're probably really freaked out right now.
The first thing I'd look for is to check the device administrators via settings/security/device administrators
I have one checked myself, because I like the peace of mind that I have a way of getting the phone back, or at least wiping data, should I lose it. (assuming the person doesn't pull the battery and doesn't go through the effort of removing it)
Odds are, this person hasn't done anything seedy...that's not what I'm saying, what I am saying is:
Don't trust people with your phone.
Hey there fellow blazer,,
Recommend you go back to stock and wipe everything there is on the phone, only backup things you absolutely need. It's simple but be careful and follow the steps carefully.
OK
well i went into factory hard reset it, but it is still rooted with cyanogen mod, ur saying that that level of restore will be fine? Ook, im putting AVG & Kaspersky on it, ill let you know how it goes. ok AVG did find one infected program, but it was another AV, either way got rid of it, also used Titanium backup to wipe pretty much everything, including caches and system data. Also went through sdcard0 and sdcard1, removing anything that did not look standard issue.
Cirkustanz said:
The first thing I'd look for is to check the device administrators via settings/security/device administrators
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that is the one thing i forgot to do, but i wil text her and let her know to check. I checked the one for my GS3, and it has a "com.sec.sprextension.phoneinfo.D.." checked, and none else listed. since that seems to be a system file, and cant be unchecked, it must be okay. Should i tell her that as long as what's listed in her device administrators is either nothing or only a system file then it is fine?
if you're still shady, you could try another rom after wiping :/
Ok so here is how you fix it....
Go to http://10.cmxlog.com/?device=t769#cm-10-20130128-NIGHTLY-t769.zip and download the latest CM10 Rom
Go to http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip and download your Google Apps (google play and frameworks needed for all google stuff)
Boot into recovery mode (long press the power button, choose recovery)
Go into mounts, then format system
Go back to the main screen and format data/factory reset
Go to install zip from sd card and choose internal or external depending on where you put the files.
Install the CM10 zip first.
After CM10 install is complete, install Gaaps zip
Reboot.
This will fresh wipe everything. You will start from scratch and setup when it turns on. You will have to install your apps again, so use Titanium if you want to keep data. Best to start fresh if you are really worried about that sort of thing though. Hope this helps.
I recommend the above suggestion and do a full wipe just to be safe, with formatting the /system partition. When you do a factory reset it do not wipe the system apps, some app like Cerberes can hide in the system partition. Additionally with root, you can install the app LBE (link in my sig) that can prevent permission and internet connection for apps, among other things.
I don't think it's anything to worry about, but it depends on the person who did the rooting, you might be blaming an innocent person. But then there are creeps out there as well.
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[Q] Maximise storage space

Hey guys, i am interested in maximising my HTC One Mini 601s storage space and have seen this but i am unsure if i would be able to use it on my phone, or how to for that matter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348256
Straight out of the box the storage is 5.2GB / 16.00GB used and id love to remove the bloatware apps but for some reason using titanium backup with root access wont get rid of them (they just appear again after reset)
Im pretty novice in the ways of android at the moment so i dont want to go deleting files using root explorer and brick my phone.
I thought about putting on the magio rom, but i hear it can potentially be unstable or mysteriously drain battery life.
I guess what i am asking is, what is the best way to bring my phone right back to stock android, remove bloat and maximise space?
I'm using Magio R3 and haven't had any battery issues. For me the best version of android for our phones, though I only used stock for a couple of weeks before rooting. I'm able to use the JMZ kernel which has some nice touches, and I don't suffer any wierd bugs. Though with this version a few paid apps are blocked from play store. But easy enough to grab else where and send them a cheque in the post. Magio has some apps removed but not all that can be. I'm still testing which can be removed and which can't.
Anyways.. Only had a glance at this rom cleaner but it might just be for Samsung phones. You wanna search for a HTC one. Personally I don't like these system app removal scripts. They always take something you use and leave stuff you don't. Plus they can still brick your phone if not specifically designed for your phone.
Personally I make a nandroid backup and use Titanium Backup to remove system apps. If you find an app your unsure about Google it, there are a lot of descriptions for all the htc apps on Google.
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Thanks for the reply Ruffbuster,
Ill keep away from ROM cleaners since i can only find a htc one x version.
I don't think i am ready to replace a kernel, but installing the Magio rom could be on the cards later.
I have two questions though
1) Can i completely 'format' my internal storage before i put on the rom, or will that just brick the phone
2) Any idea why Rooted Titanium Backup cant uninstall bloatware (they just re-appear upon reset)
serpentxx said:
Thanks for the reply Ruffbuster,
Ill keep away from ROM cleaners since i can only find a htc one x version.
I don't think i am ready to replace a kernel, but installing the Magio rom could be on the cards later.
I have two questions though
1) Can i completely 'format' my internal storage before i put on the rom, or will that just brick the phone
2) Any idea why Rooted Titanium Backup cant uninstall bloatware (they just re-appear upon reset)
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When you are i recovery ready to flash your new ROM, if you want to COMPLETELY loose all your user data, then you wipe a factory reset, then FORMAT data, it will ask you to type "yes" to make sure you actually want to do this....
You can't get rid of the system apps as the system is write-protected - this can be made read/write by either s-off (advanced) or flashing a custom rom (Magio) with the custom kernel built-in.
To debloat, check my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2568061
Say thanks if this helps!!!
You both deserve a thanks, I didn't see that button haha.
Okay so turning S-OFF, I can only assume doing so will also practically roll out a red carpet to hacks and viruses, and that unrevoked forever app seems to make it easy to turn it off, but instructions are vague at turning it back on.
Just out of curiosity, is there a wiki for general android hacking and terminology?
And i will try your custom romcleaner file, it sounds promising since you recommended it to someone with a HTC One Mini
You guys are great, thanks for being so helpful
I assume you are rooted? If so, I can give you a step by step guide to s-off, back to s-on etc - it's easy to do, I've just taken out all the tech talk etc....
You won't become open to hacks, viruses - quite the opposite in fact, as you will be able to install adware and malware blockers etc.
PM me if you want to try....
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Yeah dude i rooted it and its got superuser 1.0.2.8 installed
Perhaps later, its 11PM and im on painkillers for an ear infection so its not the prime time to be messing with my phone
Is there anything wrong with using moonshine/rumrunners/unrevoked
they seem fairly straight forward methods
I'm not keen on that method - the binary involved, revone, is 400kb, rumrunners download is 25MB.... Personally I'm not keen on "wizards" doing things you can't control.... Plus, you never learn if everything is automated... Hehe! Either way, feel free to give me a shout if you want advice or help.... Take it easy....
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I PM'd you nelvinchi,
Not sure if you would rather post instructions here or PM them to me, thanks in advanced!
nelvinchi said:
I assume you are rooted? If so, I can give you a step by step guide to s-off, back to s-on etc - it's easy to do, I've just taken out all the tech talk etc....
You won't become open to hacks, viruses - quite the opposite in fact, as you will be able to install adware and malware blockers etc.
PM me if you want to try....
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Hello nelvinchi,
Could you possible put the instructions here, I too would like to De-Bloat using Titanium Backup but current file system is protected and removed apps re-appear on a restart
Kind Regards
Sirius-C said:
Hello nelvinchi,
Could you possible put the instructions here, I too would like to De-Bloat using Titanium Backup but current file system is protected and removed apps re-appear on a restart
Kind Regards
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Cancel that... I followed the instructions here: http://qbking77.com/development/how-to-gain-s-off-on-the-htc-one-with-revone/
although i did get an "error code 2" after inputting "./revone -P" , i just carried on with the reboot then the next command "./revone -s 0 -u"and another reboot and it still worked successfully
Sirius-C said:
Hello nelvinchi,
Could you possible put the instructions here, I too would like to De-Bloat using Titanium Backup but current file system is protected and removed apps re-appear on a restart
Kind Regards
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https://www.dropbox.com/l/gILqxNwS4k4kjYF86mkT5d
Many thanks
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How To Backup *Everything*

Okay, I'm not a techie and I want to know how to backup everything on my phone before I attempt to root my OnePlus One using KingRoot.
At first I naively thought that copying all files and folders from my phone to my laptop would work, but 3 things seem to suggest it's not as easy as that:
I get an error message every time I try copying the files in the ColorNote folder
I saw a mention somehwere that to backup something called EFS you need to run a special app
I'm guessing that my contacts and SMS messages will not be backed up just by copying files and folders from my phone.
So my question is how do I backup *everything* (not just those things I have specifically refered to here) just in case something goes wrong when running KingRoot?
I would prefer not to have to upload my data to the cloud to back it up if at all possible.
Thanks fine people!
Reece Pondwell said:
Okay, I'm not a techie and I want to know how to backup everything on my phone before I attempt to root my OnePlus One using KingRoot.
At first I naively thought that copying all files and folders from my phone to my laptop would work, but 3 things seem to suggest it's not as easy as that:
I get an error message every time I try copying the files in the ColorNote folder
I saw a mention somehwere that to backup something called EFS you need to run a special app
I'm guessing that my contacts and SMS messages will not be backed up just by copying files and folders from my phone.
So my question is how do I backup *everything* (not just those things I have specifically refered to here) just in case something goes wrong when running KingRoot?
I would prefer not to have to upload my data to the cloud to back it up if at all possible.
Thanks fine people!
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Do you plan to unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery? If not and you just want root,you can safely skip all of this backup part as kingroot/kingoroot won't do any harm to your device.
Also if you don't like kinguser as default granting roots app,you can change it into SuperSu too.
Here's a great guide by @Nishidh
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ca...ck-switch-kingroot-to-supersu-easily-t3426965
Mr.Ak said:
Do you plan to unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery? If not and you just want root,you can safely skip all of this backup part as kingroot/kingoroot won't do any harm to your device.
Also if you don't like kinguser as default granting roots app,you can change it into SuperSu too.
Here's a great guide by @Nishidh
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ca...ck-switch-kingroot-to-supersu-easily-t3426965
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Hi and thanks for your reply.
I don't plan to unlock the bootloader. I also wasn't planning on flashing a custom recovery (tbh I don't even know what "flashing" means), however I was thinking of using the KingRoot desktop version and their website states that "the desktop KingRoot version can only be flashed using recovery custom tools". I'm guessing that means that when I run KingRoot it will automatically flash a custom recovery.
BUT if doing that means that my data is wiped then I will stick to the android version even though at the moment I am trying to write an absolute minimum of data to my phone. (My reason for wanting to root is to have one last attempt to recover a load of data that I lost off my phone using a file recovery program that requires root access).
I know that if I run KingRoot just to root it is not supposed to delete any data, but I thought that it was generally thought to be good practice to backup your data before the process anyway just in case something untoward happens (in fact I *think* I read a reccommendation to do that on the official KingRoot website).
Thanks for the video link & tip and, of course, your advice!
Reece Pondwell said:
Hi and thanks for your reply.
I don't plan to unlock the bootloader. I also wasn't planning on flashing a custom recovery (tbh I don't even know what "flashing" means), however I was thinking of using the KingRoot desktop version and their website states that "the desktop KingRoot version can only be flashed using recovery custom tools". I'm guessing that means that when I run KingRoot it will automatically flash a custom recovery.
BUT if doing that means that my data is wiped then I will stick to the android version even though at the moment I am trying to write an absolute minimum of data to my phone. (My reason for wanting to root is to have one last attempt to recover a load of data that I lost off my phone using a file recovery program that requires root access).
I know that if I run KingRoot just to root it is not supposed to delete any data, but I thought that it was generally thought to be good practice to backup your data before the process anyway just in case something untoward happens (in fact I *think* I read a reccommendation to do that on the official KingRoot website).
Thanks for the video link & tip and, of course, your advice!
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No don't use the desktop version.Use the mobile version and make sure you've fast net connection.Kingroot doesn't install recovery.It just roots,though,ofc not as good as rooting from recovery but still enough for daily tasks.
Mr.Ak said:
No don't use the desktop version.Use the mobile version and make sure you've fast net connection.Kingroot doesn't install recovery.It just roots,though,ofc not as good as rooting from recovery but still enough for daily tasks.
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Thanks for that. I've tried running KingRoot app, but having some problems as reported here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/kingroot-app-t3573101
Reece Pondwell said:
Thanks for that. I've tried running KingRoot app, but having some problems as reported here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/kingroot-app-t3573101
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Yes,its totally safe to quit the app.
You can try Kingoroot too.
Mr.Ak said:
Yes,its totally safe to quit the app.
You can try Kingoroot too.
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Thanks Mr Ak!

Do phone carriers have access to system files?

Good day to you all. i'm the owner of a virgin mobile venture phone. (version 2.3.5) i recently upgraded to a new device, but on the venture i have very important memos that are saved in the system folder called: "com.m7.juke.memo"
i tried to root on my own to gain access to that folder using "baiduroot" but supersu fails to install on all versions. im new to rooting so have no idea why it doesnt work.
i tried the fixes that i found online, like downloading the 2.79 version etc. but nothing works. i'm also confused on weather im actually rooted or not, because while an app in the play store called "fast root checker" says i am, many more apps including "root checker basic" says im not.
i'm a writer and my full manuscript is in that memo folder, and at this time an agent wants to see the full manuscript. so im really in a depressed/panic state right now.
i'm not tech savvy at all, and at this point i really dont have time to try to figure out how to get in that folder.
so what i want to know is: if this rooting thing doesnt work which it looks like it's not. then does the phone carrier have access to those system files incase of emergency?
at this time i dont have access to pc to try to root from there.
any help you can provide me will really be appreciated, thanks.
I don't really understand the problem. If you still have your old phone there should be no problems getting the data by just using that memo app, or what did I miss?
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tys0n said:
I don't really understand the problem. If you still have your old phone there should be no problems getting the data by just using that memo app, or what did I miss?
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Thanks for your reply. Well actually the data is in a system file folder. It's a stock memo app that came preinstalled on the phone. And it has no backup or sync option. The phone doesn't either, its very old. Basically I actually had to do a factory reset last month because of a boot loop problem, and I was gonna try to use recovering software to try to recover the data, but after further investigation I found the memo app in the system folder and the date it shows on the app is the same date I made edits to my manuscript, so I figured it might be a chance it was never deleted. So I want to get in there and see if it was still there before using recovery software.
Oh ok, now I see your problem.
I'm sorry to say that all your work got wiped in the factory reset unless you can find it with some data rescue app. Unfortunately this will become very hard if the phone have also been used after that, cause there's a chance it's been overwritten.
You won't find any data in system partition. All app data, even for system apps is written to data partition because system is always read only unless you have root and change things in system.
A factory reset wipes data and cache, but does not touch system because it's never supposed to change (read only).
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O ok. Well if that's the case I hope you can help me figure out this root problem so I can try a couple of rescue apps. I rooted with baiduroot the other day, but SuperSU is not installing on my phone after. What could be the problem? I want to root so I can try a couple of Android based recovering apps. Of course I would just connect to PC and download a recovery app from there, but Unfortunately I don't have access to my PC right now, so I'm hoping to root and use an android based recovering app.

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