So I finally overclocked my phone to about 710MHz. I know most ppl are overclocking theirs to about 748, but mine shuts off at this freq, so I just keep it at 710. Anyway, I'm just wondering if I need to worry about this taking a toll on my phone in the long run. I need the power, and I have it set to "on demand", but I don't wanna have it set that high if it's going to make the life of my phone shorter, or cause any other problems. I ask b/c I always read how you have to be very careful when overclocking.
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Is overclocking to, let's say, 1.4ghz safe? Won't it break the device and decrease life span?
mmmm as far as i fell for it. People change devices like clothing so to most it wouldn't matter. If you are going to have it for a long time then i would say you can do it but dont over due it to much and you would be fine. If the tablet can't handle it, it will just freeze or shut off and so on. Its relativity safe to do mostly.
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Please excuse me for my ignorance, but I don't know much about these kinds of topics.
I wanted to know if anybody could be kind enough to explain the dangers and negatives of an overclocked CPU and an undervolted kernel?
I know their benefits because of some research I did, but I could never find a concrete answer explaining the negatives and dangers.
I've heard some horror stories of overheating handsets that get so hot that internal components fry, heard about damaged radios that need to be replaced, and loss of signal. But I'm not entirely sure if those instances are correlation instead of causation.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
-Chris
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The general issue that applies to both modifications is that you are using the chips outside their specifications. Their whole behavior might no longer be as expected.
This is usually happening at such low level and in a so small range that it doesn't affect normal use.
Overclocking will definitely produce more heat. That's why people that overclock pcs to insane levels use non-standard cooling like dry ice or even liquid nitrogen.
As you can't change the way your phone will transport heat, there's only very limited room for overclocking.
The phone is designed to switch itself off if it gets too hot, however this is not something one should rely on.
Not sure about any specific risks of undervolting, but the general issues will definitely apply. Noone can guarantee for stuff to work as expected when you run components outside the specifications, as they were tested to run safe only inside the specs as supplied by the manufacturer.
It can cause permanent CPU damage which can lead to you bricking your phone, but the chances of that aren't that great. Usually if you undervolt too much, your phone will just reboot.
Stability is the biggest issue. It can put the components too far out of their comfort zone.
Unstable, unexpected behaviour and/or (in very strange cases drastically) reduced life expactancy. However, if you do undervolt your cpu, the only/main issue becomes unstable.
In my experience (lot of pc overclocking), you will notice when your material can't keep up with the settings and if you change it (back), no problems will occur.
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It can cause permanent CPU damage which can lead to you bricking your phone, but the chances of that aren't that great. Usually if you undervolt too much, your phone will just reboot.
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So would you say it's worth the risk to flash a ROM that has an overclocked CPU and undervolted kernel? I'm so scared to damage my device
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So would you say it's worth the risk to flash a ROM that has an overclocked CPU and undervolted kernel? I'm so scared to damage my device
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Yes I would, in a way the lower voltage cancels out the higher voltage, and even produces less heat overall. There are no dangers of undervolting AFAIK, saving battery is good, although if you set the volt extremely low the phone will freeze up. Devs put the volt at a good level but most of the time you can lower it by a notch or increase it for no reason. If this phone ever gets 2GHz clock that would be a danger to run at, because the voltage would be insane.
Hi all i want to ask if overclocking is a good think because i have a galaxy w and some month ago i clock my processor from 1.4 to 1.8 gHz (single core).. now the battery life is very reduced, but i don't know if it is caused by the clock or if is the time that have my phone.. i used the clock speed for one week max just for play a hard game with good graphics :eek. :good:
If you've already returned to stock clockspeed it's probably not the overclocking that's causing it. But just to be sure, go and check that the clock is at standard. It has happened for me that the phone has raised the clock by it self for some reason. If thats not the case just try going to the battery stats to see if any app is using a lot of battery. If not I dont know what could be wrong. Maybe it's just time for a new battery (or phone)
Overclocking is not a "good" or "bad" thing. It will use more battery while you're doing it and you can damage the hardware - it's a risk you choose to take.
It's possible something was damaged, but it wouldn't be my first guess.
I'd use something like BetterBatteryStats to find out why your battery is draining and go from there.
Honestly there's really no point your phone is engineered to a certain clock everything in your phone is engineered to run with that clock when you overclock now your straining not just the processor but your battery as well and everything(electronic component wise) is now going to run a lot hotter then it was engineered to run and you have tiny little low voltage surface mount transistors and diodes that don't like heat. So they stop the clock at where they do so they can achieve the best speed they can without harming components and without killing your battery. The more you run that phone like that the less and less your battery is going to last. Its like your poisoning it slowly. Just to archive less then microseconds of snappyness. Its not really worth it there's no point in breaking (not all devices will break but you don't know if you have one with a weak component in it somewhere or not. It might not break until you stress it out) something that intelligent entity's after pulling in matter and from this cosmos and putting it together to engineer such an amazing device. Why break it. Its very possible to do so. Some phones will run a year like that without starting to lag on you from burning out contacts inside components and creating tiny little spark gaps that takes signal and current longer to get where it needs to go so now you start to lag....that can start to happen the next day or an hour after you do it. Or even a year from now. Do you really need to be faster where you barely notice it that badly?
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Just underclock it a little. Saves battery and reduces heat.
Hi XDA Community. I use Trinity Kernel by Morfic and i was wondering if it is okay to have an Overclocked Nexus 5 and use the phone at a regular basis like a normal stock clock Nexus. I don't want My phone to just randomly explode because of overclocking it. One of the features the kernel has as said at his/her XDA thread is "Up to 2726MHz (higher clocks will vary from device to device)". Is that frequency trustworthy when just using the phone normally or is that a benchmark frequency?
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Hi XDA Community. I use Trinity Kernel by Morfic and i was wondering if it is okay to have an Overclocked Nexus 5 and use the phone at a regular basis like a normal stock clock Nexus. I don't want My phone to just randomly explode because of overclocking it. One of the features the kernel has as said at his/her XDA thread is "Up to 2726MHz (higher clocks will vary from device to device)". Is that frequency trustworthy when just using the phone normally or is that a benchmark frequency?
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Don't overclock that high. 2419MHz at most. Overclocking too high will cause more heat and throttle earlier, only useful for a short benchmark such as HWBot Prime or Quadrant (Antutu takes longer and will overheat by the time it finishes). Trinity also supports up to 3014MHz, OP hasn't been updated.
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Hi XDA Community. I use Trinity Kernel by Morfic and i was wondering if it is okay to have an Overclocked Nexus 5 and use the phone at a regular basis like a normal stock clock Nexus. I don't want My phone to just randomly explode because of overclocking it. One of the features the kernel has as said at his/her XDA thread is "Up to 2726MHz (higher clocks will vary from device to device)". Is that frequency trustworthy when just using the phone normally or is that a benchmark frequency?
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You don't want to push the phone too much I think the Nexus 5 runs at 2.3 GHz. 2.7 MAY not be too bad but honestly, the phone runs pretty smooth as is. What benefits are you looking for from overclocking?
Thanks guys for sharing your knowledge. You know.. To get the MOST out of the Phone while at the same time being Safe.
if you really wanted, the phone won't explode if you run it at 3015mhz either. the worst that will happen is that your phone won't be able to run that high, and will freeze and reboot.
and don't listen to all.. run your phone how YOU like. yes, it'll cause a little(not much) more heat, and will throttle a little earlier, but that's why people like me disable throttle, so that's a non issue. I run my phone at high CPU speeds all the time, and use 2880mhz high/300mhz low quite often. just because I feel like it, no other reason.
oh, I run trinity as well, and do all of Trinity's testing
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Thanks guys for sharing your knowledge. You know.. To get the MOST out of the Phone while at the same time being Safe.
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It's just what @jsgraphicart said. You're not really getting more out of your phone by overclocking. It's not going to run smoother, and most games don't lag anyway so they probably won't run better. I think most people just do it for benchmarks or just to check if it can run on a certain clockspeed.
Also what @simms22 said. You can do it if you want to, but simply because you want to because as far as I know there aren't really any benefits.
Back in my Palm Pre days, we used to overclock that thing to 1GHz. The default setting was 500MHz. I think it was even pushed to 1.2GHz. And it ran fine. But back then, you could tell the difference between a little lag at 500MHz and smoothness at 1GHz. With this phone and how Android has gotten smoother with every update, it's kind of hard to see any difference when overclocking. It will be smooth regardless.
oh, benefits, not really. a little more speed, yes. bit I would never call it a benefit, unless the speed difference was drastic, and its not.
As mentioned, overclocking the CPU can actually turn out to run slower because of aggressive thermal throttling. You could disable or extend the thermal throttling, but 2.3Ghz is already plenty fast for today's mobile software so you won't notice any difference in day to day usage.
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As mentioned, overclocking the CPU can actually turn out to run slower because of aggressive thermal throttling. You could disable or extend the thermal throttling, but 2.3Ghz is already plenty fast for today's mobile software so you won't notice any difference in day to day usage.
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Even if you run your phone at 2880MHz/3014MHz/whatever with thermal throttle off, you can't really do anything too intensive as it'll hit 105C and shutoff lol
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Even if you run your phone at 2880MHz/3014MHz/whatever with thermal throttle off, you can't really do anything too intensive as it'll hit 105C and shutoff lol
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actually, no, youre wrong. when you run your phone at 2880/300 or 3014/300, you phone will hardly scale up that high, sometimes it will. you wont see any real difference between those high cpu speeds and running it at 2265/300. and battery will be similar. the difference will be if you run it at 2880/2880 or 3014/3014. now i run my phone at 2880/300 very often, and you know i disable thermal throttle. yet, i see no difference in temperatures, except if im doing something thats very cpu intensive.
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actually, no, youre wrong. when you run your phone at 2880/300 or 3014/300, you phone will hardly scale up that high, sometimes it will. you wont see any real difference between those high cpu speeds and running it at 2265/300. and battery will be similar. the difference will be if you run it at 2880/2880 or 3014/3014. now i run my phone at 2880/300 very often, and you know i disable thermal throttle. yet, i see no difference in temperatures, except if im doing something thats very cpu intensive.
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Ah true. But still, a bit easier to hit it if doing something intensive Not to mention it may be a little unstable on some devices
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Ah true. But still, a bit easier to hit it if doing something intensive Not to mention it may be a little unstable on some devices
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on some devices??? on most devices! anyways, stability is overrated
LOL...no explosions on XDA allowed!