[Q] So...what's been found to be different from UCLD2? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

Been a few hours now...so I wanted to ask what differences have you guys noticed from the new leak? I saw that a few fixes were in place like the mms and shutdown, but is there anything else worth mentioning? Also saw that it was a little smoother? UCALC seemed smooth to me.

slotstik04 said:
Been a few hours now...so I wanted to ask what differences have you guys noticed from the new leak? I saw that a few fixes were in place like the mms and shutdown, but is there anything else worth mentioning? Also saw that it was a little smoother? UCALC seemed smooth to me.
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There are a few things that are mentioned in the threads that already exist about it.

scott14719 said:
There are a few things that are mentioned in the threads that already exist about it.
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Exactly, I don't know why the people can't read already existing threads. Quit posting duplicate threads. STOP IT!!!!

and the old boy strike again... x, Scott, ur vigilance places me in awe

icenight89 said:
and the old boy strike again... x, Scott, ur vigilance places me in awe
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I don't want to be mean, but it is much better to direct people to places where the information they seak already exists than it is to try and re-write, re-address the information in yet another thread on the same subject. Most questions don't have easy answers so it would take several replies to match the information that already exists and it just isn't possible to put 5, 6, 7, 100, etc... pages of info into one reply. Some people don't realize what they are doing so directing them (hinting to them) in the right direction of the information is helpful to them. They need to read ALL of the information available on the subject to help and keep them from screwing up and posting another question about what has already been explained. Others are too lazy to read existing info and expect people to hand them the information they require on a silver platter. They would probably want someone to feed them and wipe their butts too. Well...screw them! If you are too lazy or ignorant to take the time needed to learn how to do what it is that you want to do then you need to leave your phone alone...ATT loves you.

I was merely agreeing with u, I got tired long ago of answering questions that simply require a little research. That being said, for anyone else reading that post, I agree.

xcrazydx said:
Exactly, I don't know why the people can't read already existing threads. Quit posting duplicate threads. STOP IT!!!!
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1: I did read existing threads - if not, how could I formulate the details in my initial post?
2: Posting duplicate threads? I've posted a duplicate thread? Maybe I'm crazy, but I dont see a duplicate thread that I've posted about this small question. The details mentioned within the other thread are already mentioned in the OP, so I was asking if anyone saw anything else worth mentioning. I don't see another thread like this one in the general section or Q/A?
Grow up a little, be more polite, its not like I'm posting a thread saying "why can't I flash this rom on my iphone?"
Edit: Okay, nevermind. I'll just leave it at that. I have already read through the entire threads, and found very little BEFORE I even posted this, but it's okay. It's just a tiny question anyway. No need to stir up hate and anger, my little lads. Go play mod somewhere else if you have to.
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this thread is more or less identical to yours and has the fixes/noticed differences in op. Before u snap, please note that this thread was on the first page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566015

icenight89 said:
this thread is more or less identical to yours and has the fixes/noticed differences in op. Before u snap, please note that this thread was on the first page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566015
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See? How hard was it to link me to that page? I have seen that page before, but merely thought it was for the original leak. I apologize for the inconvenience it has brought to you guys... (lol) Thanks for the link.

slotstik04 said:
1: I did read existing threads - if not, how could I formulate the details in my initial post?
2: Posting duplicate threads? I've posted a duplicate thread? Maybe I'm crazy, but I dont see a duplicate thread that I've posted about this small question. The details mentioned within the other thread are already mentioned in the OP, so I was asking if anyone saw anything else worth mentioning. I don't see another thread like this one in the general section or Q/A?
Grow up a little, be more polite, its not like I'm posting a thread saying "why can't I flash this rom on my iphone?"
Edit: Okay, nevermind. I'll just leave it at that. I have already read through the entire threads, and found very little BEFORE I even posted this, but it's okay. It's just a tiny question anyway. No need to stir up hate and anger, my little lads. Go play mod somewhere else if you have to.
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Cool, but y so mad?

scott14719 said:
it would take several replies to match the information that already exists and it just isn't possible to put 5, 6, 7, 100, etc...
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Those 100 pages, also some times make it hard to find the specific doubt one is trying to address. I understand what your point is about taking the time to read and learn, or otherwise just leave the phone stock, but I'm, to be honest, a little surprised at the attitude that I have usually found in this forum. Just like slotstik says...
slotstik04 said:
be more polite, its not like I'm posting a thread saying "why can't I flash this rom on my iphone?"
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How hard is it to be polite? I understand the huge amount of newbies that come in here, and also how many of them, post so many idiot questions, regularly. And I understand that it has to take a lot of patience to deal with those, but again, there's several ways to treat a newbie, and being rude is not one of them. Now, I'm not saying this is your specific case, it's just this particular situation made me speak about the strange, bad mood I've noticed in here.
I'm a newbie in this forum, as well as in Android in general (got my Skyrocket Dec 26th, love it by the way), and can perceive a certain fear of people to post questions, because there's an 80% chance you will get flamed. What this basically means, is that bad attitude towards questions, is making people not ask, it's hurting their curiosity... is that something desired in this forums? Shouldn't it be opposite? Shouldn't you encourage curiosity? Dumb or redundant questions WILL come, but isn't it part of the learning process?
Sorry about the long text...

One questions belong in q&a I know that's a tough concept two I don't care if it is 100 pages do a search within the thread yes you can do that we get fed up because there are rules which a lot of you ignore blatantly making it harder for us who know what's going on to sift through your crap over and over you want polite do things by the rules rtfm
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Google and the search button works. If one is not willing to search and read they don't deserve to be spoon fed answers. Without research they will probably just brick anyway.

Trolls trolling trolls end up with trolling trolly trolls. Trololol.
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I googled your question, and this is what I got.
[Q] So...what's been found to be different from UCLD2? - Page 2 ...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24901378
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[Q] So...what's been found to be different from UCLD2? AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket General.
Ice Cream Sandwich for Samsung Skyrocket: New Firmware Leak ...
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8 hours ago – A new Ice Cream Sandwich Android 4.0 firmware, UCLD2 has been leaked ... soon, so we don't get plagued by the usual barrage of firmware leaks that ... you should not attempt anything if you don't know completely what it is.
The Android Soul - Android Update, News, Apps and Hacks
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8 hours ago – ... AT&T Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, a newer ICS firmware, UCLD2 has been leaked by Rootzwiki ... of three Ice Cream Sandwich running phones, each made for a different carrier. ... It is only available in a few countries for now, so in case you haven't got the ... $40 Less Than What you will pay Sprint on Release.
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Jan 12, 2012 – Although XXKPA doesn't differ much from the previous leak, XXKP8, it's still ... So, we can say, it's the best Ice Cream Sandwich leak for Galaxy S2 so far. ... and you should not attempt anything if you don't know completely what it is. ... won't be held liable — you only will be responsible, you've been warned!
Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) Update for Galaxy S i9000
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What Rom Do You Use I Need Suggestions

hell i finally graduated from the dash to a new tilt i flashed my rom. had problems but im up and running thanks to the wiki and search feature and all the wonderful post. so now im looking for a speedy full featured rom any suggestion. or maybe your top 3 roms and why you chose them please tell me which version. im running a dragon 3 pro rom now. ill play with this phone to get my mind off the dream lol. any suggest please and thank you
r u trying to get killed on here
hotadef said:
hell i finally graduated from the dash to a new tilt i flashed my rom. had problems but im up and running thanks to the wiki and search feature and all the wonderful post. so now im looking for a speedy full featured rom any suggestion. or maybe your top 3 roms and why you chose them please tell me which version. im running a dragon 3 pro rom now. ill play with this phone to get my mind off the dream lol. any suggest please and thank you
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OMFG - you read the Wiki and searched and this is the best you can come up with - get your flameproofs on
This is exactly the kind of post that will get you flamed like a Kleenex in a blast furnace.
ROM's are like the perfect margarita... everyone has their own preferences and tastes.
Just start trying them by READING THE FRICKING THREADS attached to them.
If your next question was going to be "How do I flash a ROM", we are going to come to your house and beat up your lawn gnome.
hotadef said:
or maybe your top 3 roms and why you chose them please tell me which version.
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may I also wash ur car, do your shoppings and walk your dog?
dani31 said:
may I also wash ur car, do your shoppings and walk your dog?
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You forgot chew your food and wipe your butt.
not flaming and not asking which one is best, what i am asking is to be told what the repliers prefrence is. i have been searching for hours and i see some ppl use 2 or 3 roms now what i dont know is why they use one over the other or flip back and forth etc. so i am looking to find out what ppl prefer so i can use my search feature and have a head start on a few hundred post is all no flame in that is there
20 minutes too long to wait? You already created this thread in General.
JimmyMcGee will be along shortly to merge and close these threads, and he will also point you to the Announcement at the top of the forum to explain why.
NotATreoFan said:
20 minutes too long to wait? You already created this thread in General.
JimmyMcGee will be along shortly to merge and close these threads, and he will also point you to the Announcement at the top of the forum to explain why.
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posted there by accident was under wrong tab wanted it to be in the rom sit
hotadef said:
hell i finally graduated from the dash to a new tilt i flashed my rom. had problems but im up and running thanks to the wiki and search feature and all the wonderful post. so now im looking for a speedy full featured rom any suggestion. or maybe your top 3 roms and why you chose them please tell me which version. im running a dragon 3 pro rom now. ill play with this phone to get my mind off the dream lol. any suggest please and thank you
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Glad to see you have a new Tilt. There are so many roms out there that it is hard to narrow it down to just three. Here are a couple of links to roms that I think are pretty good.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Cooked_ROMs
You guys are all dicks!! It took longer to post your cutesy little answers than to provide anything useful.
I am currently enjoying HyperDragon Pro with Manilla2d. before that I was using Laurentius ROM's. Before that, I was using a Nokia N80.
Now go try flashign some ROM's and find YOUR favorite and whatever you do, don't turn into one of the lonely virgins that previously answered your post.
I'm fairly new to the Tilt also, but I just installed the HyperDragon III Pro with Manilla 2D and I love it. What I did was decide what is important to me as far as features go and then skim through some of the ROM threads and then picked the one that had the least complaints about the features I want...I hope that makes sense.
hotadef said:
hell i finally graduated from the dash to a new tilt i flashed my rom. had problems but im up and running thanks to the wiki and search feature and all the wonderful post. so now im looking for a speedy full featured rom any suggestion. or maybe your top 3 roms and why you chose them please tell me which version. im running a dragon 3 pro rom now. ill play with this phone to get my mind off the dream lol. any suggest please and thank you
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My suggestion is that you go back and read the rules. Then you read the forum. Then you get your phone hardspl'd and security unlocked. Then you pick a rom and flash it. If you don't flash it, then flash another. Please don't clutter this forum with these silly and pointless threads that apparently everyone things we need a new one every day.
bittermormon said:
You guys are all dicks!! It took longer to post your cutesy little answers than to provide anything useful.
I am currently enjoying HyperDragon Pro with Manilla2d. before that I was using Laurentius ROM's. Before that, I was using a Nokia N80.
Now go try flashign some ROM's and find YOUR favorite and whatever you do, don't turn into one of the lonely virgins that previously answered your post.
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You sir are out of line. The OP not only double posted, but he created a new thread in the ROM development forum asking a question that's been CLEARLY deemed on appropriate hundreds of times already. The OP has shown no respect for the forum rules and policies. I imagine he hasn't even bothered to read them, nor the "before posting please read this" mod thread at the top of the page.
bittermormon said:
don't turn into one of the lonely virgins that previously answered your post.
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It takes countless hours to read the forum, flash and test all roms / programs.
There is no value in ranking three roms, neither there is value in your post. Just insults, not even fun or flame.
first off my post isnt about a flame, its about an opinion on what the person uses and why, every one will have there own opinion like every one has an a$$ hole and some can be them.
next i posted in the wrong section because as i said i have been reading up on roms on this site i have over 20 tabs open on this site alone. now the reason why i asked for the replier top choice is to find out if there is a feature they needed and why so i can figure out what some of these things are, such as manilla and 3d drivers or what have you. if one of them features are great then it helps weed thru some of the post. roms have hundred of pages.
intelligent ppl ask question and other intelligent ppl understand thats part of the learning progress, a$$es waste there own time trying to be smart. i didnt ask for any hand outs my phone wasnt an easy flash it would go white screen. but i did research that one on my own that was a specific problem roms is just in general question you either have an opinion or you dont why waste web space with usless comments. if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem and before another smart one says something i am not spell check anything dont care this is just a forum
omg hay guys i m Loooooking for a rom that is best n dont b all "it depnds" cuz i know u guys r hiding the best from me. plz respond asap so my phone will = leet k thanks
hotadef said:
first off my post isnt about a flame, its about an opinion on what the person uses and why, every one will have there own opinion like every one has an a$$ hole and some can be them.
next i posted in the wrong section because as i said i have been reading up on roms on this site i have over 20 tabs open on this site alone. now the reason why i asked for the replier top choice is to find out if there is a feature they needed and why so i can figure out what some of these things are, such as manilla and 3d drivers or what have you. if one of them features are great then it helps weed thru some of the post. roms have hundred of pages.
intelligent ppl ask question and other intelligent ppl understand thats part of the learning progress, a$$es waste there own time trying to be smart. i didnt ask for any hand outs my phone wasnt an easy flash it would go white screen. but i did research that one on my own that was a specific problem roms is just in general question you either have an opinion or you dont why waste web space with usless comments. if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem and before another smart one says something i am not spell check anything dont care this is just a forum
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There is a well established patter than ALL "what is the best rom" threads will be closed. in face if you check the very top post by Jimmy McGee entitled "read before posting" you will see a section called "Follow the Rules" which specifically mentions "which is the best rom?" threads.
Before you get on your soapbox about respect, try following your own advice first.
For those who apparently can't find it, here is the mod post by jimmy which i am referring to, at the very top of every kaiser forum page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=378
Correct.
Search for yourself and then make an educated decision.
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Google NOW: When we will get these applications..??

What is Google Now?
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There’s some confusion out there in the Android world. Google Now is not Android’s “Siri killer”, that’s Voice Search (which you can get to and use from within Google Now). Google Now is much, much more than an application that listens to queries and spits out answers. I’m not even sure we can call Google Now a virtual assistant either. Google Now is about automating your life and in return, making your life easier. Google Now does that by providing a vast amount of information, pertinent to you, at your fingertips. There’s just one catch though. Those of your that often go full tin foil hat mode really won’t be able to fully enjoy Google Now to its’ full potential. So take off your head gear and let’s get started.
[Google Now] tells you today’s weather before you start your day, how much traffic to expect before you leave for work, when the next train will arrive as you’re standing on the platform, or your favorite team’s score while they’re playing. And the best part? All of this happens automatically. Cards appear throughout the day at the moment you need them.
these stuff belongs to apps section not general.
xlm13x said:
these stuff belongs to apps section not general.
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buddy, this application doesn't applicable in our device. I put this for General Review. so chill..
kataria.vikesh said:
buddy, this application doesn't applicable in our device. I put this for General Review. so chill..
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whatever, it will suit better there in app section because after all its about an app not about galaxy r's general talk. I-) btw i dnt think saying anything here makes any sense, u guys wont improve.
xlm13x said:
whatever, it will suit better there in app section because after all its about an app not about galaxy r's general talk. I-) btw i dnt think saying anything here makes any sense, u guys wont improve.
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will you please elobrate above quoted line..??
Guys in our sub forum incidents of flaming have been as rare as Apple iDevices running on Android.
Let's keep it that way. If anyone feels it's in the wrong section then kindly use the report button & let the MODs decide where it needs to be.
Thanks & Cool Down.
'cooleagle' said:
Guys in our sub forum incidents of flaming have been as rare as Apple iDevices running on Android.
Let's keep it that way. If anyone feels it's in the wrong section then kindly use the report button & let the MODs decide where it needs to be.
Thanks & Cool Down.
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thanks buddy, as i have seen few more threads are here which must be thrown in diff section (in which they are belong to). Let MODs decide which thread mst be in which section.:highfive:
we can make the mod's work easy by not making such mistakes repeatedly... i've seen many times that in order to post the newest stuff/news at the latest even before the fellow members some OPs forget to do the proper research about the article/news they are going to post...
Let our forum be less crowded and have the meaningful/relevant threads only...
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these fancy stuff (Google now...etc) won't work practically in india as it is supposed to...
ofabhishek said:
we can make the mod's work easy by not making such mistakes repeatedly... i've seen many times that in order to post the newest stuff/news at the latest even before the fellow members some OPs forget to do the proper research about the article/news they are going to post...
Let our forum be less crowded and have the meaningful/relevant threads only...
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these fancy stuff (Google now...etc) won't work practically in india as it is supposed to...
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EXACTLY.
our mod Red5 is handling not only SGR forum but other forum also and because of it he cant look after our forum whole day and clean mess from here, we already have alot mess in our forum and making such threads is increasing that mess. its our responsibility to take care of our forum and help it to stay neat, clean so that we can easily find what we need.
and FYI XDA havent made this forum as the other S2, OneX, S3 forums are made but after making a lot of requests XDA gave this forum to us, so respect what we had and help it to improve not to make it messy
we can request the MOD to move this thread @kataria.vikesh, you knw better than me...
coool
ofabhishek said:
we can make the mod's work easy by not making such mistakes repeatedly... i've seen many times that in order to post the newest stuff/news at the latest even before the fellow members some OPs forget to do the proper research about the article/news they are going to post...
Let our forum be less crowded and have the meaningful/relevant threads only...
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these fancy stuff (Google now...etc) won't work practically in india as it is supposed to...
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dear, I know what you want to say & all that. but I think NEXUS 7 & related to JB is not part to related with galaxy R. Few application & threads which is meant to be in developer section are in General posts.
Google now is same in use of JB, its is fancy bt few are used to be in different handsets & now working fine in GALAXY R. we are following what we are seeing in each threads from your elder seniors. so its better not to make this issue hot to make me understand the same. I already put a request to MOD regarding the same & let them check.:angel:
chandrus1983 said:
we can request the MOD to move this thread @kataria.vikesh, you knw better than me...
coool
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yes dear, I already asked to MOD regarding the same. Let them do what for what they are here. Making these kind of topic hot isn't feel pretty. this thing already happend before when topic is being stretched by other people rather than to report to MOD.
Well lets keep it simple it needs to be in app section as it is related to an app. Let the OP himself report it to the MOD to be moved.
chandrus1983 said:
we can request the MOD to move this thread @kataria.vikesh, you knw better than me...
coool
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yes dear, I already asked to MOD regarding the same. Let them do for what they are here. Making these kind of topic hot isn't feel pretty. this thing already happend before when topic is being stretched by other people rather than to report to MOD.
'cooleagle' said:
Well lets keep it simple it needs to be in app section as it is related to an app. Let the OP himself report it to the MOD to be moved.
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dear I already reached to MOD related the same. but dont know what these guys are upto.
@ kataria.vikesh
my post above wasn't thr to point u particularly but it was more for wt i've been observing recently in several threads...
btw, we r here to help each other and make some knowledgeful discussion....my sole intention was to put my point of observation... if anybody feel im making issue hotter or going against this forum's goal im ready to get banned
Sent from my GT-I9103
ofabhishek said:
@ kataria.vikesh
my post above wasn't thr to point u particularly but it was more for wt i've been observing recently in several threads...
btw, we r here to help each other and make some knowledgeful discussion....my sole intention was to put my point of observation... if anybody feel im making issue hotter or going against this forum's goal im ready to get banned
Sent from my GT-I9103
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First of all, I didn't say or pointed to you. I know the rules & anything belong to XDA. if application doesn't belong to GALAXY R & not available that's why I put that thread in General forum for asking a General Questions regarding the same. second thing about intentions, I never said that you have pointed me personally. we are professionals & we must not feel bad if we are making each other understand about forum. As you can see in my previous post (in the beginning) I was not blaming anybody for anything. You all have right to let me or even anybody knows that this is what, we should do. .??:highfive::laugh:
This matter is already in the eyes of MODs & we should not behave like kids man.. be Happy dear & let the MOD feel like we can manage things as per our own. they have many things to work on..so dont take it otherwise.
Since the MOD has done his work.... Can we please move to the discussion in the OP..... i mean does anyone have any info as to the availibiliy of google now for other devices
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they are porting it to ics as we speak.... they have managed to have it working for some roms wid d exception of voice search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
Hopefully by the tym we get an upgrade to ics (via samsung or epsylon3) we will be able to use it on our phones without too much of a hassle :-D
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Poll- FXZ from ics did you brick? stock CPU freq?

Since some that flashed the leak are at 1.2ghz and others on 1ghz, and some can fxz back and forth and others brick I thought I would put up a poll to see if there is any correlation.
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Since some that flashed the leak are at 1.2ghz and others on 1ghz, and some can fxz back and forth and others brick I thought I would put up a poll to see if there is any correlation.
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Seriously? Do you not know how to search? These have been posted and on the front page for over a week now. took me less than 30 seconds to find these!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785773
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786111
Please read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778853
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Oh my GOD!!!! do you people not know how to search? These have been posted and on the front page for over a week now. took me less than 30 seconds to find these!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785773
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786111
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Jim i have read every thread in here. My poll has a very specific purpose unrelated to any of the threads you posted. (which I have both voted on and read through and through)
Some people can FXZ back and forth and others cannot. Some people have 1.2ghz clock and others have 1ghz. You aren't curious to know if there is any relation between these 2 anomalies? I'm curious to know, and that is why I posted the poll. Please vote jim, I know you can FXZ and I think you are at 1 ghz?
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Jim i have read every thread in here. My poll has a very specific purpose unrelated to any of the threads you posted. (which I have both voted on and read through and through)
Some people can FXZ back and forth and others cannot. Some people have 1.2ghz clock and others have 1ghz. You aren't curious to know if there is any relation between these 2 anomalies? I'm curious to know, and that is why I posted the poll. Please vote jim, I know you can FXZ and I think you are at 1 ghz?
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Like I have been saying to everyone now let us devs handle all of this right now stop posting a billion new useless threads.
We are still trying to figure this all out and why some can't and others can't. A Poll is not going to tell us that. It is by digging into the code and PMing those so far that we KNOW can FXZ and let us devs handle it, so that we can get the fix out faster. I have a possible solution I am working on, but I have to constantly deal with all the mess in here too, and there is not enough time for both.
Just please let us devs do what we do best, we will get it figured out!
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Like I have been saying to everyone now let us devs handle all of this right now stop posting a billion new useless threads.
We are still trying to figure this all out and why some can't and others can't. A Poll is not going to tell us that. It is by digging into the code and PMing those so far that we KNOW can FXZ and let us devs handle it, so that we can get the fix out faster. I have a possible solution I am working on, but I have to constantly deal with all the mess in here too, and there is not enough time for both.
Just please let us devs do what we do best, we will get it figured out!
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Well I don't feel like my poll is useless, and I don't see the harm. I know ya'll have been working on a fix and I am confident you will have it sorted out. I'm not claiming to have a fix. Nor am I begging anyone for a fix. My phone is up and running fine and I'm leaving it be until ya'll finish the recovery. I may not be a developer, but I'm not an idiot nor a noob that posts a million threads. I posted 1 thread after reading all the others. As far as I knew this is a public forum where both developers and hobbyists can come together and discuss ideas. I understand your frustration, but no one has forced you to read and reply to every thread. I'm merely requesting a vote for my own personal curiosity. Maybe there is no relation between the two anamolies, and maybe the thread is no help to anyone. But maybe just maybe there is a correlation that would at least tell who is safe and who is not. At the very least it gives the rest of us something else to do while ya'll do your thing behind the scenes.
"A man only needs one thing in life. He just needs someone to love. If you can't give him that, then give him something to hope for. And if you can't give him that, just give him something to do." - Flight of the phonex
MODS...... Please take care of this!!!!!!
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MODS...... Please take care of this!!!!!!
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It was reported by a few people already.
Really????
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I can't believe this place. I have not disrespected one person here. If you look at when I do post its usually to help others. One guy comes in with a bitter attitude towards anyone without dev status, calls peoples threads useless and is basically just disrespectful in general. And all the KoolAid drinkers jump on my back? Now I'm the bad guy. I didn't get the memo that xda was running out of server space or that it was only a place for the developers to talk about what they want. Y'all are just running the very people that make up the majority out of here. I sure want no part of a community that has this kind of attitude.
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I can't believe this place. I have not disrespected one person here. If you look at when I do post its usually to help others. One guy comes in with a bitter attitude towards anyone without dev status, calls peoples threads useless and is basically just disrespectful in general. And all the KoolAid drinkers jump on my back? Now I'm the bad guy. I didn't get the memo that xda was running out of server space or that it was only a place for the developers to talk about what they want. Y'all are just running the very people that make up the majority out of here. I sure want no part of a community that has this kind of attitude.
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Has nothing to do with dev status. Just common sense right now. If you maybe waited another week to post this, then it prolly would not have deflated like it did... trust me it was not me that did anything here, and no one follows me.. heck most on here are still mad about all the bricks. The issue is that there are a ton of people that have all of a sudden taken it upon themselves to appoint themselves a developer and give out bad advice and people are just running rampant and not following the rules and re-posting dupe threads and there is like total anarchy in here right now... so this did not go over very well do to all of that, plus this has basically been covered by two different polls, now you can put the data together and pretty much figure it out.
No disrespect was ever ment. Just think about what is going on and all the sensitivity in here right now before posting, just until things quiet down again.
I hard bricked my Atrix 2, I just threw it away.. i had no fix for it and Motorola's warranty is just bullship to be honest.. :| 420$ thrown away.. but yeah now i'm just gonna save for another one maybe iPhone 5 or Atrix HD or Galaxy s3, just gonna think twice which is better, I hate hard bricks for no reason and bad warranty. Hahah sorry about the complain.
Thank you to the 2 people so far that have taken the time to vote. I am at 1 ghz but have not tried to FXZ back, otherwise I would vote as well.
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Thank you to the 2 people so far that have taken the time to vote. I am at 1 ghz but have not tried to FXZ back, otherwise I would vote as well.
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You post a thread for a poll that you didn't even participate in as the OP? It just keeps gettin' better and better...
#shakingmyhead
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Apex_Strider said:
You post a thread for a poll that you didn't even participate in as the OP? It just keeps gettin' better and better...
#shakingmyhead
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So now there is a rule that the OP must take part in a poll even if there is no way for him to honestly vote? How stupid is that? What if someone posts a pole if they should buy the atrix 2 or the galaxy 3 and the op has no experience with either phone... How could he possibly vote?
And all you followers would not be being so rude had Jim come here and said oh this is interesting lets see where this goes. You all jump on the flame train like a bunch of zombies. Jim tells me to search yet the very thread he referred me to I both voted in and had posts discussing this very topic. A couple people also wondered if there was a correlation but the discussion went no further. I post my own thread so as not jack someone else's and I'm jumped on by people for no good reason. The most ridiculous part of this whole thing is my questions/poll actually has good merit and seems like logical things to look at. People could have spent 15 seconds reading the poll and voting accordingly, but instead take up much more time flaming me for posting it.
If everyone that is able to FXZ is on 1ghz and everyone that bricks is on 1.2ghz isnt that good information to know? Am I the only one that sees this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
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So now there is a rule that the OP must take part in a poll even if there is no way for him to honestly vote? How stupid is that? What if someone posts a pole if they should buy the atrix 2 or the galaxy 3 and the op has no experience with either phone... How could he possibly vote?
And all you followers would not be being so rude had Jim come here and said oh this is interesting lets see where this goes. You all jump on the flame train like a bunch of zombies. Jim tells me to search yet the very thread he referred me to I both voted in and had posts discussing this very topic. A couple people also wondered if there was a correlation but the discussion went no further. I post my own thread so as not jack someone else's and I'm jumped on by people for no good reason. The most ridiculous part of this whole thing is my questions/poll actually has good merit and seems like logical things to look at. People could have spent 15 seconds reading the poll and voting accordingly, but instead take up much more time flaming me for posting it.
If everyone that is able to FXZ is on 1ghz and everyone that bricks is on 1.2ghz isnt that good information to know? Am I the only one that sees this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
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Eh, I think a lot of people here are just tired of the unnecessary and misleading threads. I personally see nothing way too off-base with this one. Maybe it is somewhat of a repeat, but then again not really as it's multiple threads statistic compiled into one and more up-to-date. If there's a problem, yo, a mod will solve it. No need for people to come in here rampaging. If you don't like it, report it and don't post in it. Bumping it sure won't help you resolve it.
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So now there is a rule that the OP must take part in a poll even if there is no way for him to honestly vote? How stupid is that? What if someone posts a pole if they should buy the atrix 2 or the galaxy 3 and the op has no experience with either phone... How could he possibly vote?
And all you followers would not be being so rude had Jim come here and said oh this is interesting lets see where this goes. You all jump on the flame train like a bunch of zombies. Jim tells me to search yet the very thread he referred me to I both voted in and had posts discussing this very topic. A couple people also wondered if there was a correlation but the discussion went no further. I post my own thread so as not jack someone else's and I'm jumped on by people for no good reason. The most ridiculous part of this whole thing is my questions/poll actually has good merit and seems like logical things to look at. People could have spent 15 seconds reading the poll and voting accordingly, but instead take up much more time flaming me for posting it.
If everyone that is able to FXZ is on 1ghz and everyone that bricks is on 1.2ghz isnt that good information to know? Am I the only one that sees this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
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I won't bother to engage you in arguing the mundane legitimacy of your so called "merit" of this 'poll'. What is logical is to allow the devs here time to do what they need, so as not to keep having to ward off would be n00bs or "know it nots" from doing something stupid. Nobody has "flamed" you, and if you feel like that is the case, you ain't seen flaming. I can attest that I am not a "follower" of Jim or anyone else here in these forums, I am my own entity and hold my own opinions and ideas. If, by chance, said opinions and ideas are similar to others here, doesn't mean that I am some dumb schmuck that wants to fit in with the cool kids. All of this being said, I will again say that I will not waste my time trying to argue the pragmatics of your post...
Alright I think we all should just calm DOWN!
@dudemaaam- All the senior members in the forums are just pretty pissed off at the way this forum has been running. First we had posting 5 different threads a day about ICS, then once we got the leak we had people hard bricking all over the place, then a bunch of people started posting new threads claiming that they've bricked their phones even after pretty much every thread in the forum had a warning not too. THEN we had people still trying to beg for the links for ICS once they've been pulled. AND many noobs started posting out the blue, all over the place saying they found a fix. This one guy in particilar posted like 4 different threads. So all of us are just trying to STOP people from waisting a $400 device. The devs (who have experience in dealing with problems like this) should be the ones asking these polls as they are the only ones who can truly fix the problems
Why are you guys tearing this guy apart? There has been no previous poll to test the correlation between the ability to fxz and your current clockspeed. This post does not give out shoddy advice or inhibit development. I do not see the problem with it. People are way to excited to jump all over anyone and everyone these days. I respect Jim and what he does and is doing for the community. But this poll truly does not inhibit anything. The other thing that has begun to bother me are the Jim "Fanboys" who flame anyone and just yell the "LET THE DEVS DO THERE JOBS" at everyone who posts. Jim I know you have nothing to do with them and I am not implying you do. Just please show some common courtesy. Sure with posts that may harm someones phone report them quickly and post in the thread telling everyone of the danger and leave it. That's all it needs. And leave posts such as this alone as they do no harm.
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Alright I think we all should just calm DOWN!
@dudemaaam- All the senior members in the forums are just pretty pissed off at the way this forum has been running. First we had posting 5 different threads a day about ICS, then once we got the leak we had people hard bricking all over the place, then a bunch of people started posting new threads claiming that they've bricked their phones even after pretty much every thread in the forum had a warning not too. THEN we had people still trying to beg for the links for ICS once they've been pulled. AND many noobs started posting out the blue, all over the place saying they found a fix. This one guy in particilar posted like 4 different threads. So all of us are just trying to STOP people from waisting a $400 device. The devs (who have experience in dealing with problems like this) should be the ones asking these polls as they are the only ones who can truly fix the problems
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I totally agree. This whole situation with all of the new posts about the same subject has gotten way out of hand. I get on xda to try and escape from reality for a few minutes a day and anymore i don't even want to get on here because it's the same thing everyday with new posts. It is far beyond ridiculous seeing the same topic, different thread, day in and day out. Nothing against the op, the whole ics leak problem is just frustrating and I think we need to let the devs figure this out.
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Kernel 3.0 released!!

Hi everyone,
today was released the kernel 3.0 by htcdev
Device: Desire S
Carrier: HTC
Region: CHS
Type: CRC
Kernel: 3.0.16
Android: v4.0
Size: 97.0 MB
Description: 3.07.1400.2
Download
this will help ICS/JB ROMS getting better?
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For the love of all things - why, why, why ...
SimonTS said:
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For the love of all things - why, why, why ...
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what?
Fredericosilva said:
Hi everyone
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If you want to contribute please add a high-speed download link for others. Otherwise send a request to the moderators to delete this thread, since it brings nothing new here
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SimonTS said:
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For the love of all things - why, why, why ...
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Simon I'm sure us senior members understand you're frustration with some of the ignorant comments by other members but there's no need to be so harsh all the time!
Fredericosilva said:
what?
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This is the only thing that has been discussed on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485086 for the last 2 hours and on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843907 as well.
Did you honestly think you were the first person in the whole wide world to get this information?
Anyone can explain to me why this release it is not good?
This kernel dont help ICS devs?
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Simon I'm sure us senior members understand you're frustration with some of the ignorant comments by other members but there's no need to be so harsh all the time!
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You're quite right - unfortunately they catch the brunt of my anger at the universe right now. They may not all deserve it, but some of them deserve far worse.
I think I'm just going to f*ck off out of here and find something else to do with my spare time where I don't have to try and be tolerant towards people like that.
(Edited due to unnecessary violence)
SimonTS said:
You're quite right - unfortunately they catch the brunt of my anger at the universe right now. They may not all deserve it, but some of them deserve far worse.
I think I'm just going to f*ck off out of here and find something else to do with my spare time where I don't have to try and be tolerant towards people who I would actually quite happily shoot.
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U need to take it ez dude... Just chill... Have drinks and ignore noobs
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Some moderator can delete this thread? Since Simon is the smartest here, my questions do not have any interest.
SimonTS said:
You're quite right - unfortunately they catch the brunt of my anger at the universe right now. They may not all deserve it, but some of them deserve far worse.
I think I'm just going to f*ck off out of here and find something else to do with my spare time where I don't have to try and be tolerant towards people who I would actually quite happily shoot.
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Belive me, you were ignorant and anoying not so long ago. Just calm yourself down and stop spilling poison all around.
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Simon, I suggest (in all good humor) that you step away from the.keyboard and take a holiday.
Go to your local, relax and have a skin full.
Sywepd form my DsereiS
What is CHS region?
I'm waiting for ICH supporting Arabic Egypt.
What shall I do?
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yep
the kernal source is released...
there are 39904 files and it's about 412MB :good::laugh:
SimonTS said:
You're quite right - unfortunately they catch the brunt of my anger at the universe right now. They may not all deserve it, but some of them deserve far worse.
I think I'm just going to f*ck off out of here and find something else to do with my spare time where I don't have to try and be tolerant towards people like that.
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Simon.. you need this: http://pocket.co/s8Ixq
Sorry off topic..
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Simon Cowell ?
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it´s possible to implement this kernel in a MIUI v4 rom?
Well OP, you're quite late, but at least you keep some of us up to date. And you helped XDA on search engine. people will found this thread later by google search, and they will know the source was released.
For Mr Simon , hmm
mirok said:
Belive me, you were ignorant and anoying not so long ago. Just calm yourself down and stop spilling poison all around.
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well, I thought it's only 2-3 people in this forum have problems with him. Am not saying I dont like anyone of us here, but too keep this forum friendly, no-old-user blatantly hates the new comer, we need to follow this one simple rule, RESPECT . everyone, including admin or the god of anything that have something to do with this board.
At least some of you guys have the guts to give Simon a breaking dawn point. Still, this is better than twilight. :cyclops:
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Well OP, you're quite late, but at least you keep some of us up to date. And you helped XDA on search engine. people will found this thread later by google search, and they will know the source was released.
For Mr Simon , hmm
well, I thought it's only 2-3 people in this forum have problems with him. Am not saying I dont like anyone of us here, but too keep this forum friendly, no-old-user blatantly hates the new comer, we need to follow this one simple rule, RESPECT . everyone, including admin or the god of anything that have something to do with this board.
At least some of you guys have the guts to give Simon a breaking dawn point. Still, this is better than twilight. :cyclops:
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Just to make you aware, I walked away from the forum for a few days - and intended to avoid posting in the DS threads again - through my choice, not because of anything that was said. Some of the longer-time members on here who I respect greatly (Sharpinator, Oly, Ben Pyett, Suku Patel and Dan - if I've missed any of them then I'm sorry) were constructive in their criticism of me and my recent posts. I just let things in the Real World get on top of me and that, coupled with the constant moronic postings on this forum by both noobs and people who should know better, got too much for me. Juggles is probably extremely conversant with what I was going through from a professional point-of-view.
I am not sorry for what I said, but I apologise to the people who originally made this a decent place to be if I upset any of them. I believe that XDA needs to take a serious look at itself before it the community (almost family) feel that it used to have is destroyed forever by the people coming in nowadays, demanding answers all the time, refusing to ever search, not bothering to thank (either by the button or verbally) when they are given answers, posting the same question over and over again because they are not bothered to read the answers they've been given, and generally breaking most of the rules of XDA on a daily basis.
This site is rapidly becoming far too big for the small number of moderators that are assigned to each forum (they do a great job, but can't handle what is going on most of the time) and if XDA is ever to get its quality feeling back they need to start enforcing the rules far more rigidly - especially the people who sign up and then just keep posting things like "Me too" or "What's the best ROM" so they can reach their 10 posts and start polluting the Dev forums. I joined less than a year ago, but I spent over 6 months reading and learning before joining just so that I had an idea what I was doing; my DS had been S-Offed and rooted for almost three months before I even made my first post.
I'm not perfect - hell, I'm the first to admit that, and I (like everybody else on the planet) rub people up the wrong way from time to time. I enjoyed most of my time here - certainly until rumours of ICS hit our device - but since that happened it has not been the same here.
Maybe I should have stayed away from here after what's gone on in Real Life recently, but this place used to be my escape from reality - I guess I just hadn't realised how much that had changed.
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Just to make you aware, I walked away from the forum for a few days - and intended to avoid posting in the DS threads again - through my choice, not because of anything that was said. Some of the longer-time members on here who I respect greatly (Sharpinator, Oly, Ben Pyett, Suku Patel and Dan - if I've missed any of them then I'm sorry) were constructive in their criticism of me and my recent posts. I just let things in the Real World get on top of me and that, coupled with the constant moronic postings on this forum by both noobs and people who should know better, got too much for me. Juggles is probably extremely conversant with what I was going through from a professional point-of-view.
I am not sorry for what I said, but I apologise to the people who originally made this a decent place to be if I upset any of them. I believe that XDA needs to take a serious look at itself before it the community (almost family) feel that it used to have is destroyed forever by the people coming in nowadays, demanding answers all the time, refusing to ever search, not bothering to thank (either by the button or verbally) when they are given answers, posting the same question over and over again because they are not bothered to read the answers they've been given, and generally breaking most of the rules of XDA on a daily basis.
This site is rapidly becoming far too big for the small number of moderators that are assigned to each forum (they do a great job, but can't handle what is going on most of the time) and if XDA is ever to get its quality feeling back they need to start enforcing the rules far more rigidly - especially the people who sign up and then just keep posting things like "Me too" or "What's the best ROM" so they can reach their 10 posts and start polluting the Dev forums. I joined less than a year ago, but I spent over 6 months reading and learning before joining just so that I had an idea what I was doing; my DS had been S-Offed and rooted for almost three months before I even made my first post.
I'm not perfect - hell, I'm the first to admit that, and I (like everybody else on the planet) rub people up the wrong way from time to time. I enjoyed most of my time here - certainly until rumours of ICS hit our device - but since that happened it has not been the same here.
Maybe I should have stayed away from here after what's gone on in Real Life recently, but this place used to be my escape from reality - I guess I just hadn't realised how much that had changed.
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bro, I feel ya, those retarded new comer, doesnt even search for something, try before asking. im not like a newborn people, who dont know any sh*t about any thing. I've been around on 2 forums since 2007-2008 until now , TheHotFix.Net and TBD, our local hacking and programming forum. im one of the influencing member and mod, contributor/donator, and of course a programmer. Heavy burden. I've been around since mid 2011, looking out some info and stuffs for my asus tf101, I dont even register. But after I got this DS.. the only reason I register on XDA on the first place is because of attachment links, yeah. you need to register to download it. Well after that, after looking out some of the threads and posts, I do mind giving help to other users, that's why Im stuck in XDA right now.
Well, this is just a turning point. sometimes, people dont like other people style, sometimes this new comer dont give a f**k about anything. they just want answers. Back at the other forums, we just ban them for like a day, yes they keep showing up thou, but that's how we motivate and teach them.
I'm glad that at least, those long post is really reasonable, and something that I agreed. You see Simon, you feels like this is a burden for you, you have the guts to show your leadership, I like your style :good: . But, you need to control it a bit, dont messed up to serious on this, and giving yourself a bad name.
and dear XDA mods/admins , well I'm sorry on behalf of XDA DS family for this way-off off-topic, far too d*mn away.

Why are ROM suggestion threads disappearing? Continued!

i wanted to add something but as usual tread like"Why are ROM suggestion threads disappearing?" are being locked as soon as someone starts a conversation, so mods i hope you read this and actually think about it
To All Mods: before you lock this tread, please read it at least twice. I think you forgot what forum is all about. Its about users communicating with each other. Of course i agree with rules but your guys are going overboard with this. Discussion about which rom is perfoming the best for users is very very normal type of tread. Your argument is that there is flamming etc. well ok, but shouldn't moderators "moderate"?? when threads became our of control or people become nasty they you are suppose to lock it. Not lock it as soon it shows up, because you "assume" it will.
I would love to talk to others about how are roms doing on their devices. Yes everyones' usage is different but THE BASICS will always be the same. If a rom is doing exeptionally well for most of the users than we can pretty much agree that is a good rom. This is what we "call good information".
so lets hope you guys understand what im trying to tell you and relax a little
Now your spamming remember mods decisions are final
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Anything ICS is very stable. Its simply preference whether you go touchwiz or aosp. Jelly bean is getting there and almost all share similar problems as they are built from source using many of the same commits. You have many cm10 builds to choose from coming out of project rookie and Vincom has a build out. AOKP for JB includes R4ins builds and a spin off Majick made called Orthus One using R4ins build as a base. I know I listed options and didn't tell you what to pick. Its your phone and your decision. The reason people don't like threads like this is because intentional or not you are putting someone's work above another's. If you must get info on peoples preference then send PM's. There is no need for a public forum debate on what's best. What I like, you may not and vice versa. There aren't bad Roms these days. It really is preference only. This thread will be locked just as your last one was. If you are so worried about stability then stay on ICS. If you must go for JB then simply read the various threads, OP's and go from there. It doesn't take that long to flash a ROM haha.
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not spamming, im just trying to get my point across but i am unable. all im asking and i dont think im the only one is for mods to relax a little.
thanks, have a good day
no need to put someone's work about others?? if it is better then it definitely should be recognized
edit: reminds me of a communism ideology... no need to put someone's work above others.. ha this is too funny
jerzey111 said:
i wanted to add something but as usual tread like"Why are ROM suggestion threads disappearing?" are being locked as soon as someone starts a conversation, so mods i hope you read this and actually think about it
To All Mods: before you lock this tread, please read it at least twice. I think you forgot what forum is all about. Its about users communicating with each other. Of course i agree with rules but your guys are going overboard with this. Discussion about which rom is perfoming the best for users is very very normal type of tread. Your argument is that there is flamming etc. well ok, but shouldn't moderators "moderate"?? when threads became our of control or people become nasty they you are suppose to lock it. Not lock it as soon it shows up, because you "assume" it will.
I would love to talk to others about how are roms doing on their devices. Yes everyones' usage is different but THE BASICS will always be the same. If a rom is doing exeptionally well for most of the users than we can pretty much agree that is a good rom. This is what we "call good information".
so lets hope you guys understand what im trying to tell you and relax a little
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Isnt there already a thread on new rom ideas??? Maybe thats why those "rom suggestion" threads are getting locked or if u have a suggestion for a rom it should be asked in that roms specific thread so the rom dev can see the suggestion thenselves instead of having to look at another thread
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I want mods to crack down harder on people ASKING QUESTIONS IN THE GENERAL SECTION people who refuse to read and search people who feel this site is a help desk people who by creating these threads demean others hard work but I guess you new guys feel entitled to ruin a once great site huh
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jyazzie110 said:
Isnt there already a thread on new rom ideas??? Maybe thats why those "rom suggestion" threads are getting locked or if u have a suggestion for a rom it should be asked in that roms specific thread so the rom dev can see the suggestion thenselves instead of having to look at another thread
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The OP title is misleading. He actually wants to a best ROM thread. Ie. for TW ICS, AOSP ICS, AOSP JB
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I just want to jump in here and say I agree, some of the moderating here is overzealous. Discussions of battery life / ROM's that he/she enjoys are pertinent. Dealing in absolutes are annoying sometimes, and there's nothing wrong with getting a community's subjective perspective. Moderators should moderate, not control.
The only problem is the userbase here can't be trusted to not erupt into flame fests.
Which should bring the moderators in to MODERATE, not block a thread because it might happen.
whosgotlag said:
I just want to jump in here and say I agree, some of the moderating here is overzealous. Discussions of battery life / ROM's that he/she enjoys are pertinent. Dealing in absolutes are annoying sometimes, and there's nothing wrong with getting a community's subjective perspective. Moderators should moderate, not control.
The only problem is the userbase here can't be trusted to not erupt into flame fests.
Which should bring the moderators in to MODERATE, not block a thread because it might happen.
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I would agree if it was ONE but the issue I see in every other section is that 20+ exist of all those what's the most stable what's the best who gets best battery life who makes my dinner better its stupid if noons could keep it to one thread per subject wars would never happen if they could follow rules and read and search but you know it won't happen so it will open Pandoras box most of us saw it when we had an absence of moderators and it made many of us mad and bitter ask the old timers here it was mad how many ICS threads got made in a day I thank PR for destroying all those threads and putting a stop to most of the problems
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Illnevertell said:
I would agree if it was ONE but the issue I see in every other section is that 20+ exist of all those what's the most stable what's the best who gets best battery life who makes my dinner better its stupid if noons could keep it to one thread per subject wars would never happen if they could follow rules and read and search but you know it won't happen so it will open Pandoras box most of us saw it when we had an absence of moderators and it made many of us mad and bitter ask the old timers here it was mad how many ICS threads got made in a day I thank PR for destroying all those threads and putting a stop to most of the problems
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Lol "old timers"
The fact that you're getting so angry about a forum is honestly really funny
I think just how mods monitor the OT thread for bad language and such we should have a thread for suggestions that gets monitored. Granted, it'll be more work but I'm sure it'll be better than having reports from you flooding them every 50 seconds.
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jerzey111 said:
I would love to talk to others about how are roms doing on their devices. Yes everyones' usage is different but THE BASICS will always be the same. If a rom is doing exeptionally well for most of the users than we can pretty much agree that is a good rom. This is what we "call good information".
so lets hope you guys understand what im trying to tell you and relax a little
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Tons of discussion in the Development section, in each of the ROMs' threads, about how the ROMs are doing on users phones. Give it a look. A thread in the General forum comparing ROMs will, as others have pointed out, end up turning into an argument and be counterproductive. At best it's redundant.
It appears an argument has erupted already.
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Bronk93 said:
It appears an argument has erupted already.
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Reposting threads close by mods is always going to elicit heated discussion and is typically just a play for attention anyway.
MaxCarnage said:
Tons of discussion in the Development section, in each of the ROMs' threads, about how the ROMs are doing on users phones. Give it a look. A thread in the General forum comparing ROMs will, as others have pointed out, end up turning into an argument and be counterproductive. At best it's redundant.
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The development section / ROM threads are scattered, and not a consolidated place to discuss issues/favorites/subjective ideas. I think we need a thread that allows us to discuss our preferences because hopping from thread to thread in the development section is annoying, you can lose some information in the shuffle, and getting others opinions' are helpful.
Battery life, Favorite ROMs, features you like / dislike, settings for DPI, etc all should fall into a "General ROM Specifics Discussion" thread that is MODERATED by PR as it goes on. Not stopped before it has a chance to grow into something good.
I'll agree w/ Illnevertell, this thread is a meta this is why we can't have nice things
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I'd like to think this is a discussion still.
whosgotlag said:
The development section / ROM threads are scattered, and not a consolidated place to discuss issues/favorites/subjective ideas. I think we need a thread that allows us to discuss our preferences because hopping from thread to thread in the development section is annoying, you can lose some information in the shuffle, and getting others opinions' are helpful.
Battery life, Favorite ROMs, features you like / dislike, settings for DPI, etc all should fall into a "General ROM Specifics Discussion" thread that is MODERATED by PR as it goes on. Not stopped before it has a chance to grow into something good.
I'll agree w/ Illnevertell, this thread is a meta this is why we can't have nice things
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One thing that I generally see in every thread when someone asks if a ROM is "good" or would suit their needs, the universal answer is "try it for yourself". Every phone is different; what works for some won't work for others. I'm not sure how conducive it is to the development environment to have a thread where everyone is free to get together and give feedback on ROMs in a place where the developers may not see it.
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One thing that I generally see in every thread when someone asks if a ROM is "good" or would suit their needs, the universal answer is "try it for yourself". Every phone is different; what works for some won't work for others. I'm not sure how conducive it is to the development environment to have a thread where everyone is free to get together and give feedback on ROMs in a place where the developers may not see it.
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It's not conducive to the developer environment, it's for the users. Questions like "Is ParanoidAndroid a good ROM?" are stupid, I'm against those.
What I'm not against would be questions/comments like:
What's battery life like on CM10 for you guys?
What settings are your ParanoidAndroid tablet/phablet/phone valued at?
I'm getting 2.5 hours of screen time w/ texting/reddit/tapatalk on X ROM, how're you all doing with it?
I just tried Rezoundbeats on PA, and it works ****ing awesome.
I just got 4.5 hours of screen on time [screenshot]!
I'm confused about AOKP/CM/PA/ETC, what are the benefits of X vs. X.
I've tried X,X,and Y, I've heard good things about X, anyone else on it?
Is anyone using TouchWiz based ROMs? If so why?
Is anyone still using ICS? If so why?
Is anyone using AOSP ROMs? If so why?
There are a number of discussions that could arise from any of the above, and as long as the thread remains flame free they should be allowed to exist because while answers may not be THAT much of a help to you personally, others' insight may prove useful or at the very least interesting.
I'd only be in favor of this thread if it was hosted by PR bassplayer, just like the JB discussion thread.
whosgotlag said:
It's not conducive to the developer environment, it's for the users. Questions like "Is ParanoidAndroid a good ROM?" are stupid, I'm against those.
What I'm not against would be questions/comments like:
What's battery life like on CM10 for you guys?
What settings are your ParanoidAndroid tablet/phablet/phone valued at?
I'm getting 2.5 hours of screen time w/ texting/reddit/tapatalk on X ROM, how're you all doing with it?
I just tried Rezoundbeats on PA, and it works ****ing awesome.
I just got 4.5 hours of screen on time [screenshot]!
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Virtually every one of those questions are better asked (or, more likely, already asked) in their respective development threads.
I'm confused about AOKP/CM/PA/ETC, what are the benefits of X vs. X.
I've tried X,X,and Y, I've heard good things about X, anyone else on it?
Is anyone using TouchWiz based ROMs? If so why?
Is anyone still using ICS? If so why?
Is anyone using AOSP ROMs? If so why?
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Threads that could/should be created in the QA forum as their own topics.
Throwing all these questions/discussions in a single thread would lead to utter chaos and there would be little constructive conversation. Individually threads already often descend into chaos; one thread with no specific topic for discussion would do little better in my opinion. Ultimately, this is all for naught because the thread was already locked and rejected.
I want PR to start giving infractions for every thread made in the wrong section I want infractions for those that won't search those are rules too just like no flaming so why is it I get hit with infractions for breaking rules when others are left with nothing huh where is the fairness in that why is it you can ask questions in general section or dev section why can people start threads on subjects already covered and not get in trouble but if I tell you your wrong and call you out for your lack of etiquette I get the hammer huh why is that fair so welcome to the world it ain't fair y'all keep breaking rules and getting away with it I will continue to stand up and fight and take my punishments
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Illnevertell said:
I want PR to start giving infractions for every thread made in the wrong section I want infractions for those that won't search those are rules too just like no flaming so why is it I get hit with infractions for breaking rules when others are left with nothing huh where is the fairness in that why is it you can ask questions in general section or dev section why can people start threads on subjects already covered and not get in trouble but if I tell you your wrong and call you out for your lack of etiquette I get the hammer huh why is that fair so welcome to the world it ain't fair y'all keep breaking rules and getting away with it I will continue to stand up and fight and take my punishments
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Here's a TLANP (Too long and no punctuation) for all of you
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Here's a TLANP (Too long and no punctuation) for all of you
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That right there = flaming so you should get something for that
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