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HTC One V vs. HTC Desire S

Ok, it has virtually the same specs. Less RAM though??
Good news, we can get a ROM port from it and enjoy the new Sense 4.0
Will you say its a successor to our phone or not?
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Advantages over Desire S
1) Actually, the One V has a better screen than us.
Ours is SLCD, this is SLCD2.
According to Paul obrien, it is so amazing, it makes his Galaxy Nexus look 10 years old!
Bloody hell, that says a lot!
2) it also has a better camera, it has a wider lens..
3) larger battery - 1500mah compared to our 1450mah.
Although, the SLCD2 May drain more battery
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olyloh6696 said:
Good news, we can get a ROM port from it and enjoy the new Sense 4.0
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Thats the only thing I like about the ONE V
olyloh6696 said:
Will you say its a successor to our phone or not?
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Definitly NOT, the ONE S is the successor of our DS.
The ONE V is just the ugly successor of the Legend.

chrisi100 said:
Thats the only thing I like about the ONE V
Definitly NOT, the ONE S is the successor of our DS.
The ONE V is just the ugly successor of the Legend.
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Thanks for the input mate
Yeah, I think this is meant to be the successor to the Legend/Wildfire S.
It has near the same specs as us. This is considered a low-end phone. It will be priced around the same margin as the current Wildfire S. This means our phone is now low-end!!
Can you imagine, when the DHD was released, it was a top of thre range high end phone - ann android lovers dream, but now the specs of the DHD are in a low end phone!
IMO, it looks like a sexy device!
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The One V will have Sense 3.6 and not Sense 4.0 as One X and One S. This is according to GSMArena.
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dmatik said:
The One V will have Sense 3.6 and not Sense 4.0 as One X and One S. This is according to GSMArena.
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This appears to be an error from GSMArena as specs from htc's own website for One V show Sense 4.0 on it http://www.htc.com/au/smartphones/htc-one-v/#specs
It also shows that the phone does have a microSD expansion slot as read reader comments from a review site being critical of the phone for not having one

Yes, its still Sense 4 but with less animations (imo not a bad thing).
From what Ive seen on the videos so far, the cube animation when switching homescreens and the new coverflow taskmanager("recent apps") are missing.

As said before, its very similar to our DS, i dont see a reason to upgrade (i will wait one more year).
it have some specs that are a little better (screen, camera), but other are worth (storage, ram, size,battery).
but we can port roms, and get better support for next year
about the new task manager, i liked it, sad it is missing

we have more ram. if we get kernel 3.0 then i say desire s is much better then this one.

What none of you seem to have noticed... is that the One V doesn't have a front facing camera! No 3G video calling on your One V sir!
Also, HTC seems to have dropped the Search key from the entire lineup of the "One" series phones (only three buttons now)... One of the reasons i like my phone is because of that damn button.. it's just too frigging convenient!
So the DS still kicks its ass.
But seriously... is HTC nuts? No front camera? Who does that in today's world man?!
Here, read this for more info :
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/htc-one-x-vs-htc-one-s-vs-htc-one-v-1066682

Will we be able to get port of One S & One X.... Cause in One V, a lotta thing will be missing...

onlyankush_s said:
Will we be able to get port of One S & One X.... Cause in One V, a lotta thing will be missing...
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Some things missing, but a direct WVGA port, with no resizing? Makes me smile inside.
Personally, the One S just went right to the top of my list, but still a long time away, when it drops price.
Cheers

lowveld said:
Some things missing, but a direct WVGA port, with no resizing? Makes me smile inside.
Personally, the One S just went right to the top of my list, but still a long time away, when it drops price.
Cheers
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S does this means that you will try to port One S to Desire S.
And even One S is even in my top of the list....

lowveld said:
Some things missing, but a direct WVGA port, with no resizing? Makes me smile inside.
Personally, the One S just went right to the top of my list, but still a long time away, when it drops price.
Cheers
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But isn't the One S screen qHD? I thought the One V was WVGA... check out my previous post in this thread. there is a link to the techradar comparison of the three phones...

enigmaamit said:
But isn't the One S screen qHD? I thought the One V was WVGA... check out my previous post in this thread. there is a link to the techradar comparison of the three phones...
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I believe he was talking about the one v
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dan-fish said:
I believe he was talking about the one v
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Thanks dan. But i think he just got the resolution part wrong, not the device. (wouldn't want to upgrade to a device without a front camera...)
No front camera then (One V)... so again, driver issues with that one (will have to kang it over from elsewhere).
And if he was talking about the One V, it is hardly worth considering as your next device. We have much more going for the DS... as i posted above. If considering an upgrade, at least think of the One S, or the One X (if you manage to rob a bank!!)

I meant that a direct port of the One V will be way easier than from the other models, due to the hardware similarity (apart from the non-existing FFC).
The One S went to the top of my to buy list, somewhere down the road.
Cheers

lowveld said:
I meant that a direct port of the One V will be way easier than from the other models, due to the hardware similarity (apart from the non-existing FFC).
The One S went to the top of my to buy list, somewhere down the road.
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Ahhh, there you go. Confusion cleared.
I'll wait till i can afford the One X though. Might as well splurge on the flagship (don't have any spare cash left anyway, after recently acquiring the Canon 550D, plus a new DS for the wife)

enigmaamit said:
Thanks dan. But i think he just got the resolution part wrong, not the device. (wouldn't want to upgrade to a device without a front camera...)
No front camera then (One V)... so again, driver issues with that one (will have to kang it over from elsewhere).
And if he was talking about the One V, it is hardly worth considering as your next device. We have much more going for the DS... as i posted above. If considering an upgrade, at least think of the One S, or the One X (if you manage to rob a bank!!)
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No, we both were talking about One S.
Are you kidding me, how can you even think that One V will be on top of mine and lowveld's list. *SHOCKING*

onlyankush_s said:
No, we both were talking about One S.
Are you kidding me, how can you even think that One V will be on top of mine and lowveld's list. *SHOCKING*
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Read the post carefully.
The confusion was regarding the screen resolution on the One S.
I do not know you well enough to gauge your taste in devices, so cool it.

One S --> One XL?

just wondering would it be possible that One S roms get ported to the One XL? I know that they have the same chipset so theoretically it should work right. I am contemplating if I should sell my One XL and get the International GSM One X since it has more development options and ROMs etc :L

Nobody will stop you from going over to the International One X. Of you want a One S ROM ported, why not try it yourself? We have great devs and dev teams here, not sure why you'd complain about it.
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They do not have the same chipset, the one s has a snapdragon scorpion
We have a snapdragon krait
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superchilpil said:
They do not have the same chipset, the one s has a snapdragon scorpion
We have a snapdragon krait
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The old one s had krait... New ones (not from T-Mobile USA have an s3)..

ECEXCURSION said:
The old one s had krait... New ones (not from T-Mobile USA have an s3)..
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thought they all had the krait? pretty sure new ones don't have s3...

ethantarheels123 said:
thought they all had the krait? pretty sure new ones don't have s3...
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I'm pretty sure the new ones do have a 1.7ghz s3... I frequent the one s forum too since my gf has the phone. The older one s has a 1.5ghz dual core s4 just like us...
It's on Wikipedia if you dont believe me lol.
Team venom makes roms for both phones, might want to give them a ring if you're curious about portability.

True. I wasnt complaining about the development here because I'd great but I can't help but notice the wider support for the One X and S.
Anyway I was just curious about what other people thought and it'd be a bit of a hassle for me to swap to a international ver. Since team.venom are here I'm happy for now. And plus the XL is rare, especially here in Australia. We also get 32gb storage unlike most of u who only have 16gb on AT&T ;P
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The screen resolution is very different between the S (540 x 960) and XL (720 x 1280). So on top of any other differences (CPU, etc.), a bunch of the graphics in the UI would need to be re-scaled. It can be done, and ports from various devices with different resolutions has happened in the past. But it adds all that much more work. Unless the ROM is going to bring something really new to our device, there isn't much point in all the work.

[Q] [Answered] One X+ = New Sense Roms for One XL?

I'm trying to understand how making custom ROMs works, and I love sense based ROMs so I was wondering that since the One X+ has been released with a (presumably) new version of Sense, will that soon be able to be ported to the One XL? Or is this different since the processors in the devices are different etc? Could someone educate me just a little bit?
Thanks!

TheEmpyre said:
I'm trying to understand how making custom ROMs works, and I love sense based ROMs so I was wondering that since the One X+ has been released with a (presumably) new version of Sense, will that soon be able to be ported to the One XL? Or is this different since the processors in the devices are different etc? Could someone educate me just a little bit?
Thanks!
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Hopefully a lot of super awesome stuff... I came from an inspire 4 g which has about 40 million available custom ROMs so I'm used to a large amount of development, I have found that the few developers that fiddle with the onexl 99% of them are really super awesome .. I'm just a flashslut tho..
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TheEmpyre said:
I'm trying to understand how making custom ROMs works, and I love sense based ROMs so I was wondering that since the One X+ has been released with a (presumably) new version of Sense, will that soon be able to be ported to the One XL? Or is this different since the processors in the devices are different etc? Could someone educate me just a little bit?
Thanks!
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To the best of my knowledge, One X goes with Android 4.0 and "Sense 4"
And from what I've read One X+ has Android 4.1 and "Sense 4.1". [from HTCs website]
Either way, If you like Sense there are roms that have been modded so you get the latest version of sense on your phone.
If all you want is strict Sense 4.1, try CleanRom.
I stuck with the Sense roms for awhile, then went over to CM10, and now am at Liquid.
They aren't as much different roms, as Android 4.0 shipped on the One X and Android 4.1 shipped on the One X+.
And to answer the next, roms on different phones are generally different because yes, the specs are different. Where you may have a phone with a bigger screen and a hardware keyboard, I have a phone with a small screen and a touch screen keyboard. The specs are easily different, requiring some modding - would be required to get the same stable rom on both phones.

The one x + is running sense on top of jelly bean. Just be patient, and have faith in our devs. They will port it when it's ready.
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TheEmpyre said:
Or is this different since the processors in the devices are different etc?
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Bingo.

I have full faith in the Devs and can't believe the hard work they do to support all of our habits , I started flashing a month ago and I am totally addicted, finally feel like the money I spend on my cell phone plan and on the device itself has come full circle because of the hard work of developers.
In any event - thanks for confirming what I thought about the differences in processors and porting OSs to the XL. I'll keep my eyes peeled for when JB is released for the XL hopefully before the new year.

Got that right!
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sinco54 said:
Hopefully a lot of super awesome stuff... I came from an inspire 4 g which has about 40 million available custom ROMs so I'm used to a large amount of development, I have found that the few developers that fiddle with the onexl 99% of them are really super awesome .. I'm just a flashslut tho..
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I too had an Inspire and that phone benefited from the European Desire HD being the same phone. If you look at the International One X forum it looks just like the Desire HD forum, a lot of the same devs are there. Our One X doesn't have as many different ROMs as those other phones but the ones we do have are top notch. If the devs we have stay around here I'll definitely be a happy camper for the 2 years that I'll have this phone.
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What was new in the sense that hox+ has? thought it was based on the 4.1 leak we already had?

pside15 said:
I too had an Inspire and that phone benefited from the European Desire HD being the same phone. If you look at the International One X forum it looks just like the Desire HD forum, a lot of the same devs are there. Our One X doesn't have as many different ROMs as those other phones but the ones we do have are top notch. If the devs we have stay around here I'll definitely be a happy camper for the 2 years that I'll have this phone.
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Exactly! That inspire is still kickin too, bestfriend has been usin it since I got the onex, he loves it..
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Worth getting a One XL?

Hi all...
I currently live over in the Sensation forums, I have a rooted Sensation XE.
I just wanted to know whether it was worth upgrading to the One XL.
A few questions:
1. How much screen on time do you guys generally get? (Battery life.)
2. Is the signal strength (cellular) of this phone bad? (The Sensation is pretty awful.)
3. Does this phone overheat a lot?
4. Are there any known manufacturing defects with this phone? (For example Sensation has dust gathering underneath the screen.)
5. And also, is it getting official Sense 5?
If all goes well, I will probably get one off eBay, used, but in good condition, with warranty.
Thanks a lot guys.

raz0rf1sh said:
Hi all...
I currently live over in the Sensation forums, I have a rooted Sensation XE.
I just wanted to know whether it was worth upgrading to the One XL.
A few questions:
1. How much screen on time do you guys generally get? (Battery life.)
2. Is the signal strength (cellular) of this phone bad? (The Sensation is pretty awful.)
3. Does this phone overheat a lot?
4. Are there any known manufacturing defects with this phone? (For example Sensation has dust gathering underneath the screen.)
5. And also, is it getting official Sense 5?
If all goes well, I will probably get one off eBay, used, but in good condition, with warranty.
Thanks a lot guys.
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1. On average about 3, but people have gotten up to 6 with about 12 hours total.
2. I don't believe so...
3. No
4. This phone is occasionally known to go from full charge to zero completely randomly, and sometimes just stop working entirely.
5. Yes

I've never had a problem with mine. Accessories are hard to find. It was depressing when HTC almost immediately replaced it with a new model. Development is a little slow but what there is is amazing. I've gotten close to 20 hours on the sense 5 port.

RollTribe said:
1. On average about 3, but people have gotten up to 6 with about 12 hours total.
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So would you say it is "easy" to get at least 5 hours of screen on time? Because one of the reasons for my upgrade is the need for better battery life.
(In comparison, my Sensation gets a smidge over 4 hours screen on time if used VERY conservatively.)
RollTribe said:
4. This phone is occasionally known to go from full charge to zero completely randomly, and sometimes just stop working entirely.
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Oh dear, that sounds bad. Is it a widespread problem? How many times has it happened to you? I'm assuming it is a hardware defect? Would a warranty return fix it?
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I've gotten close to 20 hours on the sense 5 port.
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How much screen on time did you get?
EDIT: I have heard that some people have replaced their One XL battery with the higher capacity One X+ battery, is this modification easy and common?

raz0rf1sh said:
So would you say it is "easy" to get at least 5 hours of screen on time? Because one of the reasons for my upgrade is the need for better battery life.
(In comparison, my Sensation gets a smidge over 4 hours screen on time if used VERY conservatively.)
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I mean, if you just went from 100%-0% you could probably get 5-6 hours easy. With normal standby time as well, probably not. I once got 29 hours with 4.5 hours screen on. That's the best I've ever gotten but generally battery life is very good. Side note: Sense ROMs provide better battery.
Oh dear, that sounds bad. Is it a widespread problem? How many times has it happened to you? I'm assuming it is a hardware defect? Would a warranty return fix it?
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It is a problem with every phone that COULD happen, but it only happens to a very few number. Sadly, I was one of them. Yes warranty fixes it.
EDIT: if for some reason warranty doesn't cover it you can send it into mobiletechvideos.com for JTAG
EDIT: I have heard that some people have replaced their One XL battery with the higher capacity One X+ battery, is this modification easy and common?
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I tried to do this, but it's not easy. I couldn't get everything apart.

This is my fifth android device since the Dream (aka G1) and it's the first one that makes me feel like android was finally done right.
It certainly will feel like an upgrade from the sensation, and apart from external speaker sound it doesn't feel like a downgrade from a One.
My buddy has a one and I played extensively. If I didn't know the specs I would have assumed they were about equal. The One has a better screen, but only if you look closely.
What I'm trying to say is this: you will have a hard time doing much better than this phone right now. Quad core and 1080p screen with 2gb ram is cool, but I couldn't really tell a huge difference. They are both fast and smooth. On the other hand, this will blow you away after the sensation
Edit: also, I bought an Anker Slimtalk external battery for like $30 off amazon and I've never worried about battery life since. I can charge the phone in my pocket unless I'm wearing stupid tight hipster skinny jeans (which never happens)
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=JKT= said:
This is my fifth android device since the Dream (aka G1) and it's the first one that makes me feel like android was finally done right.
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Thanks for the very useful & helpful replies guys.
I have some more questions:
I am really confused, I am trying to buy this phone here in Europe (UK), and there is a lot of conflicting information in regards to specs. Some websites say that the One XL has 800/1800/2600 Mhz LTE bands, where as some say it only has 1800/2600 Mhz bands - i.e missing out on the 800Mhz "crucial" frequency which has better penetration inside buildings, and provides coverage for far reaching signals in suburban/regional areas...
Also, a lot of eBay listings say it has 16GB internal storage, whereas others say it has 32GB. I thought the One XL only came in 32GB?? http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_xl-4572.php
What device/model designations did HTC give this phone, and what are the differences, if any? (Eg, Z560e etc...)
Thanks a lot once again guys.

I'm not sure about the bands, maybe it's the difference between the One XL and the One X, you're currently in the One XL forum. The differences between the two models are:
One XL: Qualcomm dual core processor and LTE compatible. For some stupid reason this model is also branded as a One X by some carriers like AT&T, causing a lot of confusion.
One X: Tegra quad core processor and not LTE compatible. Often referred to as the International One X.
What I do know there is there's a model of the XL which was released here in Australia (exclusively to Telstra network I think) which has 32gb capacity. All other models have 16gb.
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timmaaa said:
I'm not sure about the bands, maybe it's the difference between the One XL and the One X,
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Well the (International) One X doesn't support 4G for a start, I stated 4G bands.
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What I do know there is there's a model of the XL which was released here in Australia (exclusively to Telstra network I think) which has 32gb capacity. All other models have 16gb.
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That is partially what I was wondering about - so are you saying that there actually *ARE* One XL models that come with 16GB storage as well?

That is partially what I was wondering about - so are you saying that there actually *ARE* One XL models that come with 16GB storage as well?
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Yeah all the AT&T models and some Canadian models I believe, along with others.

raz0rf1sh said:
Well the (International) One X doesn't support 4G for a start, I stated 4G bands.
That is partially what I was wondering about - so are you saying that there actually *ARE* One XL models that come with 16GB storage as well?
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Ahh ok, my apologies, I'm no good with the bands. And yes, the majority of XL models come with 16gb, only the Australian model comes with 32gb.
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timmaaa said:
Ahh ok, my apologies, I'm no good with the bands. And yes, the majority of XL models come with 16gb, only the Australian model comes with 32gb.
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Haha, no need to apologize mate.
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Yeah all the AT&T models and some Canadian models I believe, along with others.
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That means the GSM arena spec sheet is wrong as initially suspected. Very interesting to know, thanks guys.
Hopefully one day I will jump ship to this community, it seems like one of the best XDA communities I have seen.

raz0rf1sh said:
4. Are there any known manufacturing defects with this phone? (For example Sensation has dust gathering underneath the screen.)
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This phone also has a "black screen" problem where the display will simply die for no apparent reason. It's rare but it happened to mine. The phone still works otherwise but the screen is dead. AT&T gave me a One because my One X was two weeks out of warranty.
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raz0rf1sh said:
Haha, no need to apologize mate.
That means the GSM arena spec sheet is wrong as initially suspected. Very interesting to know, thanks guys.
Hopefully one day I will jump ship to this community, it seems like one of the best XDA communities I have seen.
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Ya the guys here are extremely helpful and also have a great sense of humor
Except for this guy Turge, hes just a real a**hole
-Sugardaddy

i think the release of the aosp 3.4 kernel will extend the life of the device quite a bit which is something to consider.

Arrow44 said:
Ya the guys here are extremely helpful and also have a great sense of humor
Except for this guy Turge, hes just a real a**hole
-Sugardaddy
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I agree all of the people who are apart of this forum are very friendly and willing to help.
To answer the topic in my words yes is worth upgrading to the One XL from the sensation. You get a better processor, camera, and display. If I remember the sensation is on the old qualcom s3 processor. Depending on what your doing the phone shouldn't get to hot unless your watching long movies or playing games. I would suggest buying a case because the phone is so lite you might feel like it will break.
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exad said:
i think the release of the aosp 3.4 kernel will extend the life of the device quite a bit which is something to consider.
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That's good to hear.
Phonefanboys said:
I agree all of the people who are apart of this forum are very friendly and willing to help.
To answer the topic in my words yes is worth upgrading to the One XL from the sensation. You get a better processor, camera, and display. If I remember the sensation is on the old qualcom s3 processor.
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Better processor, better camera (not hugely better though), better screen size, better screen res, NFC, 4G LTE, better battery life.
Trouble is there are so little on eBay, they keep getting snapped up quickly - its hard to make a catch without overbidding

raz0rf1sh said:
Trouble is there are so little on eBay, they keep getting snapped up quickly - its hard to make a catch without overbidding
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Try Swappa. Prices are pretty good.

RollTribe said:
Try Swappa. Prices are pretty good.
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The UK market of Swappa is completely empty buddy
Thanks for the suggestion though.

iElvis said:
This phone also has a "black screen" problem where the display will simply die for no apparent reason. It's rare but it happened to mine. The phone still works otherwise but the screen is dead. AT&T gave me a One because my One X was two weeks out of warranty.
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Yep, happened to me and G4 Man, if you take apart the phone and reposition the wire that is bent at a 90° angle, the display will turn on, for reasons unknown, and for more reasons unknown it shorts the wire and it literally ignites.
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[Q] One S vs One X in terms of development

Hi,
I ask here for your help because I am planning to buy a new phone in the near future, and I am currently deciding between the One S with Snapdragon S4 and the One X with Tegra 3.
I would be very, very grateful if someone could tell me which one is better from the perspective of custom ROM development. Which one has more stable and less buggy CyanogenMod or similar AOSP-based ROMs? I've been lurking here in the One S and One X sections for some time and I can see that neither of those two phones is bugless, but I don't know how severe these problems are, if it is a dealbreaker or you can live with it. Also I get the feeling that the Tegra 3 is lacking in terms of development support and Qualcomm devices are better suited for future development. Is that so or am I wrong?
Another thing which I consider is the display quality, although it is not the main one. Does the One S screen have problems displaying white, does it have some tint? I generally love the AMOLED deep blacks, so these points will probably go to the One S.
Just one more question, how does the picture quality from the Sense camera compare to picture quality from CyanogenMod? I know Sense takes better pictures because it is optimized for the hardware, but is it a big difference?
Thank you very much for your answers, I aprecciate your help.
PS.: I posted a similar question here in the One X forum, if you want to take a look.

I had the One X and i still got the One S, so i can tell you what i like about them and what i dislike.
I would generally go with the One S because it has much much better ROM development because of the qualcomm chipset. Tegra is the WORST chipset i have ever used. I think its very hard to write drivers etc. for it. The One S has also the ability to get S-OFF'd which is a big plus for me personally. The guys at the HOX forums never managed it to gain S-OFF.
The only thing i like more at the HOX is the Display. Its by far the best 720p display i've seen so far but the HOS display is also not even close to bad. I don't think the HOS'es whites are yellow or somewhat. It isn't as white as SLCD Displays but i think thats normal for S-AMOLEDs.
Go with the One S you won't regret it

miniAndroidian said:
I had the One X and i still got the One S, so i can tell you what i like about them and what i dislike.
I would generally go with the One S because it has much much better ROM development because of the qualcomm chipset. Tegra is the WORST chipset i have ever used. I think its very hard to write drivers etc. for it. The One S has also the ability to get S-OFF'd which is a big plus for me personally. The guys at the HOX forums never managed it to gain S-OFF.
The only thing i like more at the HOX is the Display. Its by far the best 720p display i've seen so far but the HOS display is also not even close to bad. I don't think the HOS'es whites are yellow or somewhat. It isn't as white as SLCD Displays but i think thats normal for S-AMOLEDs.
Go with the One S you won't regret it
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Thank you really much for the info, that is what I needed. It's a pity I can't find a One XL from a seller I'd trust or with at least some warranty in the Czech Republic.

This is what HTC says on Reddit (and that answers the part about Nvidia vs Qualcomm quite honestly):
To address an issue that’s top of mind for many folks here, we recently announced that we wouldn’t be updating the HTC One X and One X+ beyond Android 4.2. Without the support of our chip manufacturer Nvidia, it made a global update of One X and X+ devices impossible. However, in US the One X uses the Qualcomm chip and an upgrade would be possible, but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+. This update caused a huge stir amongst owners and we’ve heard you loud and clear, so we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4.
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So, Qualcomm FTW. But one thing I can't understand is how the Nexus 7 2012 got KitKat, when it's using the Tegra 3 too. It still feels like Nvidia abandoned it on 4.1, though.

Buy a Moto G, investing in a HTC One S is not worth it at this point

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Buy a Moto G, investing in a HTC One S is not worth it at this point
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If they sold the Moto G in the Czech Republic, I'd be thinking about it a lot. But they don't, so the One S comes at the top of my "cheap but great" phone list. And when I compare these two phones, I think the One S has a better camera and design than the Moto G, so the decision would not be easy, too.