Dont know if anyone else has noticed this but has happened to me a couple of times now. If I start up an app that uses gps i.e speed test then when I quit out of the app the gps symbol remains in the notification bar flashing. I dont know how to get rid of it and have to reboot my phone. Any ideas guys?
Is it possible that your app is still running in the background even after you quit? Some apps do that.May explain why gps is still running.
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Hi. Yeah thats a possibility and have been thinking it through. Take for instance speed test, it has no exit key so you have to quit out of it by either clicking back or home. Maybe that is where the bug lies and its nothing to do with my nexus.
One other question I have if you could help me out is about multitasking. Say if I hit the home button when an app is running it still runs in the background. How long does it do this for with out resorting to using an task killer or similar?
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Dont know if anyone else has noticed this but has happened to me a couple of times now. If I start up an app that uses gps i.e speed test then when I quit out of the app the gps symbol remains in the notification bar flashing. I dont know how to get rid of it and have to reboot my phone. Any ideas guys?
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This problem is not unique to the Nexus S. I actually haven't seen it on the NS (yet), but I see it routinely on my SGS i9000.
You should be able to easily get rid of it by just turning on and off the GPS with the Power Control Widget. No need to reboot. Turning on and off Location Services in Settings screens for the phone should also do it for you.
Thanks ill try turning it off using the location settings next time it happens. I did try with the widget but when i turned it back on it returned and was still there.
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Hi. Yeah thats a possibility and have been thinking it through. Take for instance speed test, it has no exit key so you have to quit out of it by either clicking back or home. Maybe that is where the bug lies and its nothing to do with my nexus.
One other question I have if you could help me out is about multitasking. Say if I hit the home button when an app is running it still runs in the background. How long does it do this for with out resorting to using an task killer or similar?
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From my VERY limited experience, some apps stop running as soon as you press home screen (e.g. website/forum apps), some you need to specifically exit the app (if there is an exit option), and then there are others that stay running until you force stop it. Seems like it depends on the design (or mis-design) of the app.
You can view what apps are still currently running under Manage Apps. You can also manually stop those processes there if need be.
Hope this helps.
Thanks. I've tried looking under manage apps/running apps before but the task I think the gps bug is coming from is never listed in there. Infact not a great deal gets listed in the standard gingerbread applications settings. Games that I know are still running in the background dont get listed either for some reason.
Alright guys, I have a simple question for ya.
I've recently flashed CyanogenMod 7 onto my Droid 1, and have been experiencing problems. They are as follows:
1) After a phone call, I either need to wait about 5 minutes to get my data(3G) signal back, or reboot because it never gets a data connection back
2) I can no longer multitask as efficiently, and example is if I'm listening to music (Pandora, Rhapsody, or the default music app) and I go home to do another activity (Facebook, Browser, Pulse, etc.) my music app stops playing and the ongoing notification disapears.
3) My Facebook contacts are no longer kept in sync. It still is the same version as the one I used on CM6.1.2. However, when I do select to sync, it adds the contacts, without pictures, and within an hour, they are removed.
4) My messaging app, although it is locked in my memory, still is being killed by my system.
I've tried restoring, fixing permissions, formatting data and system.
So: has anyone else that hs CM7 expierenced these problems and if you did, did you have a solution?
Thanks in advance
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I have the problem with Pandora/slacker and mutlitasking... though I haven't had any of the other problems. I'm on nightly #25. No solutions yet.
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Alright guys, I have a simple question for ya.
I've recently flashed CyanogenMod 7 onto my Droid 1, and have been experiencing problems. They are as follows:
1) After a phone call, I either need to wait about 5 minutes to get my data(3G) signal back, or reboot because it never gets a data connection back
2) I can no longer multitask as efficiently, and example is if I'm listening to music (Pandora, Rhapsody, or the default music app) and I go home to do another activity (Facebook, Browser, Pulse, etc.) my music app stops playing and the ongoing notification disapears.
3) My Facebook contacts are no longer kept in sync. It still is the same version as the one I used on CM6.1.2. However, when I do select to sync, it adds the contacts, without pictures, and within an hour, they are removed.
4) My messaging app, although it is locked in my memory, still is being killed by my system.
I've tried restoring, fixing permissions, formatting data and system.
So: has anyone else that hs CM7 expierenced these problems and if you did, did you have a solution?
Thanks in advance
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1) Known issue with all GB based ROM's for the D1. Enable airplane mode a few times to force it to come back.
2) This is due to GB's aggressive memory management and the D1's lack of RAM. To help this you can do 1 of 3 things.
A. Use Swappa 2 to make a swap space on your SDcard.
B. Enable Compcache at about 18% or so.
C. Change ROM's and use Project Elite 5.0.2. They have a function that allows you to lock up to three apps into memory so they don't get auto-closed.
3) I don't use Facebook so I'm no help there.
4) Refer to number 2.
Good Luck!
Hello I'm having the same problem. My Droid seems to not be able to multitask very well anymore. My music player will often get killed by the system randomly, and it has made this phone pretty much useless for music.
I have tried enabling compcache and everything and it doesn't seem to help. I assume this is a problem of the Droid not having enough memory?
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I'm running CM7 RC4 on my droid and the only "issue" I've noticed is that I get a low memory warning from time to time.
What kernel are you running?
Perhaps CM7 is too much for droid at stock speeds.
The 1.1Ghz low volt Chevy kernel does a very good job for me.
Do you have any issues with music playback? Maybe my kernel is the problem. The 1.2 ghz slayher kernel bootloops with my CM7 but it worked fine on CM6.
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Sorry to post again, but I just wanted to update you guys. Flashed the Chevy 1.1 LV kernel and am still having the music player shut itself off when I try to open other apps. If I leave the music player up in the foreground, it will run all day with no issues. The minute it gets sent to the background, android seems to kill it within seconds.
The taskbar notification for the player will also disappear, but may reappear randomly as I continue to use my phone. It will appear briefly, then vanish. The music will never resume playback, however, until you physically hit the pause button and then the play button.
The sad part is that this behavior was exactly what my Motorola Q used to do. The thing had so little memory that the minute apps were released from the foreground view, they'd almost instantly close. I hate to say this but I think the only solution is a new phone... I guess android has finally outpaced the hardware on the OG Droid.
I've tried everything setting the music & media processes to 'always keep alive' using the little blue fish memory manager, but that doesn't seem to work. Like I said before, *something* is closing the music process very aggressively when it leaves the foreground and I'm not sure why it's doing this.
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Yeah I'm using cm7 on my Droid incredible. Everything works fine except, sometimes applications such as messaging app and the default web browser restart randomly. I'm also using the kernel that came with it.
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I've found that particular memory-hungry apps tend to cause the music player to close itself. The browser for one, almost guarantees that the music playback will stop. Last night I was able to keep the music playback going while switching between my SMS inbox and Tweetdeck. However certain other app combinations don't seem to work so well.
I've heard some talk of "bulletproofing" ... is this something that could help in my case? What does it do and how do I go about locking the music player in memory?
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Hello,
I have been struggling with this issue forever. I am using my Google nav app and all of a sudden it freezes barely updating with CPU @100%. I have tried different options using 3g instead of 4g, not using bluetooth, not starting nav when CPU is busy nothing has worked. All of a sudden either at the start or during a navigation session the CPU will go up to 100% and the app will stop updating and if I am driving I left without directions until I reboot. Huge headache. I used different system monitors like 'WatchDog Lite' and 'System Tuner' and those apps say that the most CPU consuming process during that time period is 'Android System Process'. I have no clue as to what 'Android System Process' is doing during that period of time except it is taking a large amount of CPU.
Only option left is to overclock, upgrade to a faster CPU from Verizon or go to Apple IPhone
That's strange, I used the navigation all the time without a problem, besides slow locks. Have you tried clearing the app data, sounds like its the app itself misbehaving.
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I haven't had an issue like that and its definitely abnormal. Have you tried installing a ROM like Tweaked or a kernel like PBJ?
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I had the same problem before I rooted and installed my first ROM. No problems since then. Recommend you root, install Tweeked or Eclipse and PBJ, also don't undervolt too much. You're headache should stop. I haven't had that happen to me in long long time. I'm a truckdriver and use the maps quite often.
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I had the same problem star up all of a sudden a month or two ago. Google maps would just close by itself, and nav would freeze while driving. While messing around one day, I ended up having to wipe my phone and ODIN stock, re root, and put Tweaked 2.1 ROM on it again, and restore all my backed up apps. To my pleasant surprise Google maps and nav are working flawlessly now.
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I have been partially able to fix the problem. One I downloaded Copilot Live as a navigation app which uses offline maps instead of downloading maps on the fly like google nav. However, still my phone used to lag close to 20-30 seconds when I would go to my home screen and similarly when I went to my application lists. I was using Seepu so I could see that my CPU was at 100% all the time. This led me to believe that there might be an issue with my SDCard and hence I downloaded sdbooster https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mehrmann.sdbooster&hl=en .
I saw an amazing performance improvement after I set the cache size to 8192 mb and the lags all but disappeared. However, still when I am on my home screen it sometimes lags 5 seconds which is still infuriating. What the heck is it doing, is it reading apps from the disk?
I've been running stock 4.1.2 (rooted) for a while now, and after really slow performance, steadily worsening battery life, and general annoyances like random reboots, Blue Screens, and other annoyances like duplicated incoming SMSs, I figure it's time to take the plunge and install a custom ROM and maybe even a fresh kernel.
Unfortunately, I don't have the time to devote to experimenting with all the different ROMs out there for this phone, and was wondering if I were to list out what I usually use the phone for and what apps I run most of the time if it would be possible for people to recommend which one would be a good fit to try as my first.
(I know this'll mean missing out on all the fun of having so many choices, and when I have more time later, I'll see what I can do about exploring the other options.)
I make heavy use of SMS, although often times my messages are laggy to send and receive (I don't know if this is a problem with my phone or T-Mobile). Incoming messages sometimes get repeated multiple times for no apparent reason. My current SMS default is EvolveSMS, but I had similar issues with GOSMS.
I also play Ingress, so any bugginess in the GPS would be a deal breaker.
Voice calling is sometimes problematic as well. When I make outgoing calls, it sometimes take 30 seconds for the phone app to load., With incoming calls, I may get the ringtone, but no screen to accept or reject the call.
I run the xposed framework for a handful of modules (All Notifications Expanded, and Buttered Toast)
I'm using Nova Launcher for my homescreen, because of the ability to set a grid size, use custom icons, overlap icons on top of widgets, and lock the homescreen configuration from accidental changes. A ROM that would do the same things natively without having to run a homescreen replacer would be welcome.
I'm also interested in running on my external SD, Is that something I should set up prior to flashing the new ROM, or can that only be done after the ROM is installed?
Team Apex have done some great work. By now they know the hardware very well, having done the initial dev work back on CM9, all the way up to the current CM11 and now Omnirom systems. Their current efforts are focused on the Omnirom-based Omnitoad project. It's at a point where it works very well. I suggest starting there.
The stock roms and the earlier CM roms all have a bug where the compass reads totally wrong after a reboot until you recalibrate it. This was finally fixed in the CM11-based ROMs. That should help Ingress.
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I've been running stock 4.1.2 (rooted) for a while now, and after really slow performance, steadily worsening battery life, and general annoyances like random reboots, Blue Screens, and other annoyances like duplicated incoming SMSs, I figure it's time to take the plunge and install a custom ROM and maybe even a fresh kernel.
Unfortunately, I don't have the time to devote to experimenting with all the different ROMs out there for this phone, and was wondering if I were to list out what I usually use the phone for and what apps I run most of the time if it would be possible for people to recommend which one would be a good fit to try as my first.
(I know this'll mean missing out on all the fun of having so many choices, and when I have more time later, I'll see what I can do about exploring the other options.)
I make heavy use of SMS, although often times my messages are laggy to send and receive (I don't know if this is a problem with my phone or T-Mobile). Incoming messages sometimes get repeated multiple times for no apparent reason. My current SMS default is EvolveSMS, but I had similar issues with GOSMS.
I also play Ingress, so any bugginess in the GPS would be a deal breaker.
Voice calling is sometimes problematic as well. When I make outgoing calls, it sometimes take 30 seconds for the phone app to load., With incoming calls, I may get the ringtone, but no screen to accept or reject the call.
I run the xposed framework for a handful of modules (All Notifications Expanded, and Buttered Toast)
I'm using Nova Launcher for my homescreen, because of the ability to set a grid size, use custom icons, overlap icons on top of widgets, and lock the homescreen configuration from accidental changes. A ROM that would do the same things natively without having to run a homescreen replacer would be welcome.
I'm also interested in running on my external SD, Is that something I should set up prior to flashing the new ROM, or can that only be done after the ROM is installed?
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to be fully honest though...i do highly recommend flashing my B14CKB1RD kernel on whatever 4.4 kit kat rom you use if you want best stability and battery life...its been proven that at the end of the day your rom will have alot of batterly life remaining compared to stock....whats good about my kernel is that you control how you want the phone to work...where as with TeamApexQ stock kernels you are locked to that one state and also has an mpdec touchboost enabled that boosts your cpu core to 1134mhz minimum speed when you touch the screen thus rapidly draining your battery... I'm in no way saying the work they have done isnt great....theyve done a hell of a job bringing the device to the stability its at today... it just brings that much more stability outta any rom you use
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to be fully honest though...i do highly recommend flashing my B14CKB1RD kernel on whatever 4.4 kit kat rom you use if you want best stability and battery life...its been proven that at the end of the day your rom will have alot of batterly life remaining compared to stock....whats good about my kernel is that you control how you want the phone to work...where as with TeamApexQ stock kernels you are locked to that one state and also has an mpdec touchboost enabled that boosts your cpu core to 1134mhz minimum speed when you touch the screen thus rapidly draining your battery... I'm in no way saying the work they have done isnt great....theyve done a hell of a job bringing the device to the stability its at today... it just brings that much more stability outta any rom you use
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mpdec and touchboost are two separate concepts. Touchboost boosts the second core to 1134 Mhz when you are using the display in order to make the phone more responsive. Mpdec turns off the second core when not in use and conserves a huge amount of battery. On OmniToad, with the standard kernel on it, I usually get 60 hours + per charge of medium use. I've been using OmniToad continuously, and since the beginning of it, I have not personally had any reboot that was not initiated by myself.
Um dude you do know your touchboost is mpdecision based right?....look at the defconfig...and to be honest my kernel works just as smooth if not smoother than the stock kernel of omni without it...using omni on stock kernel I wald have 40% battery come 11pm my time when unplugged at 7am...on my kernel I'll have anywhere between 65% and 70% with same usage and hours
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One other thing about touchboost, which will hopefully bring us all out of ignorance of it as I am tired of the constant FUD about it. It is the 'touch responsiveness' portion of Google's "Project Butter" initiative. It is a standard Android/AOSP feature enjoyed by Nexus owners since Android 4.1.x.
One more thing. It is a UI deficiency that the performance settings apps show 1134Mhz as min cpu when using touchboost. In kernel mpdec will run the cpus at 384mhz unless something needs more, or the cores will sleep. Now you know the facts. Let's stop spreading misinformation. Thanks.
Not spreading misinformation...my builds and the community have even spoken of the better battery my kernel and ROMs have with it disabled and removed....even flashing my kernel over omni the phone instantly stopped overheating and lost maybe a percent in 2 hours with moderate use.... I just love how as soon as I came to the relay you guys judged me as a noob and all the name calling and what not....it's your teams loss...all my gain...good luck
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In my opinion, I try all the roms available for relay right now, the better performance I have was with liquid ROM and blackbird kernel. Omni is smooth but the battery its not the best for my phone with my personal use, and with GPS and plugged to the car charger i got overheating. Carbon got better battery than omni and better customization options but not smoother. Liquid have all you need in a ROM, personalization, full control and with the kernel blackbird and Wheatley and sio configuration have the better performance and battery at all ROM I try
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So, I tried OmniToad for a bit. Wasn't really impressed with the compass fix mentioned above, because even after flashing it was still quite ill-behaved in Ingress.
I also couldn't get the External 2 Internal SD Card swap to work -- the storage tab kept reporting my internal as 5 gig and the external as 64gig. This was after trying two different microSDs.
So, because of those two issues, and being not too far along in re installing everything, I decided to flash again, with the Blackbird Kernel and Liquid Smooth.
Now, when I try to boot. it hangs on the screen with the ApexQ green penguin. If I try for recovery mode I'll get the blue text that says booting into recovery, and then it goes to the penguin again. Trying to boot to download mode also just gives me the penguin.
Troubleshooting suggestions? Because right now, I'm without any clue as to what to do next, and without a phone for that matter.
[Edit: Just got into recovery, so going to try flashing back to OmniToad]
[Edit 2, Electric Boogaloo: Back on the Toad for now, Seems to be working. Thoughts on how to get things running on my external SD? Is it maybe an issue with KitKat based roms?]
I'll guide you through it...my roms shouldn't show anything teamapexq related ...what recovery were you using...and have you tried heimdall or ODIN
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I'll guide you through it...my roms shouldn't show anything teamapexq related ...what recovery were you using...and have you tried heimdall or ODIN
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Recovery is TeamWin, and I was finally able to get back into it. Put OmniToad back on it for the time being. If you wanted to put up a step by step for going from Omni to Liquid, I can give it a try, because at this point, I'm pretty sure it was a "ID Ten T "error.
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mpdec and touchboost are two separate concepts. Touchboost boosts the second core to 1134 Mhz when you are using the display in order to make the phone more responsive. Mpdec turns off the second core when not in use and conserves a huge amount of battery. On OmniToad, with the standard kernel on it, I usually get 60 hours + per charge of medium use. I've been using OmniToad continuously, and since the beginning of it, I have not personally had any reboot that was not initiated by myself.
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Did u just say 60+ hours of use??
How?? What do u mean by medium use?? Are you using the stock battery??
That's only possible with screen off with no use in that 60 hours and the phone going into deepsleep...either that or he's using an extended battery....with very minimal use....also proof or it didn't happen
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@radwolf76 I sent you a pm
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I ended up partitioning my external SD card so I could use Mounts2SD. Seems to be working so far.
Now I just have to get all my stuff put back on this thing and figure out how the extra features of LiquidSmooth are going to fit into my workflows.
One thing that seems to be a minor annoyance, probably because I just haven't found the toggle for it yet: on stock, I used to be able to wake the phone from the home button and the screen would pop on instantly. Under both custom ROMs I've tried, it seems a lot harder to wake the phone. The power button seems to be the only thing that works, and I have to stab at it repeatedly. I almost suspect that I'm waking it up and puttting it back to sleep before the screen comes on, but I can't seem to find anything that consistently works. Like I said, it's probably something I just need to toggle under settings.
The home button's actual switch is in the center of the button, while the design allows the button to tip sideways. So if you press it on a corner instead of the middle, the phone sometimes won't recognize it.
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I ended up partitioning my external SD card so I could use Mounts2SD. Seems to be working so far.
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I may have spoken too soon. Getting all sorts of apps stopping on me now. Launcher3, Hangouts, Ingress, Settings...
Also, Launcher3 seems to 'forget' homescreen layouts every so often... some times I'll be going back to blank homescreens, and then after poking around in other apps, the homescreen will be back to the original configuration.
Ingress also acts like it can't see Location Services most of the time.
Also, sometimes when I reboot, it takes up to 20 minutes before the phone's back up and running.
While I can't discount that it was any of the number of apps I've put back on the thing, I'm pretty sure that Mounts2SD is the smoking gun here. these problems didn't start until after I had started using it. The symptoms seem about right.
I'm wondering if there's a conflict between Mounts2SD and the governor/scheduler I'm running (Wheatley/SIO).
I'd rather not have to troubleshoot this, but one of my main goals with starting fresh on this was to be able to store and run apps on my External SD, preferably without having to fuss with it on a per-folder basis. So if anyone has had any success in that department, I'd love to hear some tips that point me in the right direction.
[Edit: Turns out Mounts2SD overrides the governor/scheduler choices anyway. I think, that when I get off work I'm going to start fresh again over my next few days off, and try using Link2SD instead.]
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I may have spoken too soon. Getting all sorts of apps stopping on me now. Launcher3, Hangouts, Ingress, Settings...
Also, Launcher3 seems to 'forget' homescreen layouts every so often... some times I'll be going back to blank homescreens, and then after poking around in other apps, the homescreen will be back to the original configuration.
Ingress also acts like it can't see Location Services most of the time.
Also, sometimes when I reboot, it takes up to 20 minutes before the phone's back up and running.
While I can't discount that it was any of the number of apps I've put back on the thing, I'm pretty sure that Mounts2SD is the smoking gun here. these problems didn't start until after I had started using it. The symptoms seem about right.
I'm wondering if there's a conflict between Mounts2SD and the governor/scheduler I'm running (Wheatley/SIO).
I'd rather not have to troubleshoot this, but one of my main goals with starting fresh on this was to be able to store and run apps on my External SD, preferably without having to fuss with it on a per-folder basis. So if anyone has had any success in that department, I'd love to hear some tips that point me in the right direction.
[Edit: Turns out Mounts2SD overrides the governor/scheduler choices anyway. I think, that when I get off work I'm going to start fresh again over my next few days off, and try using Link2SD instead.]
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well i use nova launcher.....launcher 3 and google launcher in my opinion isnt the best of launchers...there is other options i mentioned in a pm before to storing apps on sd and is alot easier than fiddling looking for the right app ....what also gives you the assumption it messes with governer or scheduler....i know by default there is settings for sd read ahead write ahead scheduling but that app shouldnt have control in changing any of this
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what also gives you the assumption it messes with governer or scheduler....i know by default there is settings for sd read ahead write ahead scheduling but that app shouldnt have control in changing any of this
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This post from another user in the Mounts2SD thread. They might be mistaken, but either way, my problems started cropping up after I installed that app, and if there's a chance that poster is right about it setting those things, that's just another reason for me to uninstall it.
right now Carbon wins
I've tried them all, Liquid smooth is awesome but the latest built gave me some blackscreen issues until the next built go with carbon if you want some nice features or slim for a nice overall rom.
Don't forget to install the Blackbird kernel for a even better result.
Peace!