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Got a TBolt off ebay....but it's an unbranded developer's phone!?

So, I got 2 TBolts off ebay with cracked screens for $245 (total, for the pair). Figured it was a good buy since I could replace the screens myself for fairly cheap, then sell one and keep one. I get them, and I notice that there's no VZW branding anywhere on one of the phones. I boot it into bootloader and it says "S-Off", whereas the VZW branded on says "S-On". Did some quick googling for "unbranded thunderbolt" and read this
(damn, ca't post links. Google for "unbranded thunderbolt" and click the first link to see pictures of the bootloader and phone that I'm referencing)
The bootloader screen pretty much matches what it says there.
So, here's my question...is this phone an extra-special one that I shouldn't mess with? Should I not replace the digitizer/screen with one that has a VZW brand on it? Should I resell it? I'm not a developer, so perhaps it better served in the hands of a developer? I'm really not sure what I should do with it, but I figure that you guys might have an idea.
(looooong time lurker [since WM 6.1] first time poster)

what is the hboot number? if it is 1.04.2000 eng s-off then prolly it is a device that someone has previously rooted. if the hboot is the 0.95.0000 the it prolly is an unbrnaded test phone.
its kinda neat to have foound such a thing,maybe worth some searching to see if all 0.95s were s-off,or just some. if only some came that way,id try and find a way to pull the hboot image off the phone so youd have it to put back if you ever wanted to.
if all 0.95s were s-off,maybe its not such a big deal.
at any rate,theres really not much special about it other than that,and its not worth any extra $$. id fix it and take advantage of the s-off to flash shadomites permanent patched hboot,wich is all around better.
the 0.95 is not an engineering hboot,just an unlocked phone used by pr-release testers.

The only other thing I could think of is it has some cool development/debugging apps on it if it is in fact a pre-release phone. Although I think a few of our devs already had their hands on some pre production test units before the phone was released. So it might be a kinda moot point now but don't take my word for it LOL.
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Damn scotty your full of knowledge...
To the OP I think that was a cool score getting an unbranded developers phone

Here at xda u need to show proof. I'm curious about this
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Or someone rooted them and replaced the digitizer/screen with an unbranded one.
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I'll put up some pics when I get back in town on Sunday. Everything looked different about it, even theone MEID didn't match a 'normal' vzw one...although trying to make a call let to a vzw message saying that the call could not be completed.
More info in a few days! This thing has me very curious....

Interesting find if true

curious if verizon will give you a 4g sim for it. Though not sure why they wouldn't.

Not back to my place yet, but I did pull out the SIM tray when I was looking at it on friday....and there was a SIM already in there. Completely unbranded. No VZW or other markings on it.

xXJay_RXx said:
Here at xda u need to show proof. I'm curious about this
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how do you figure,he doesn't have to show you anything, you could ask if he would bur you ain't entitled to anything!
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HERE BE PICS!
Here are a few embedded pics.
(no VZW branding, and the MEID is 1 short of a normal VZW MEID)
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(S-OFF)
(Weird solid white SIM)
And the whole album
http://imgur.com/a/HbC2F
Any ideas what I have here? I'm probably just going to ebay it, but I want to know what it is that I'm selling before I sell it.

I would be curious to know about that sim card but I don't think I can be of much help.
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thats weird it says with htc sense, mine says google.

Ya, it's just kinda weird. The branding is all different.
I also noticed a "Tell HTC" options under the "About Phone" part of the settings. Here's a pic
(unbranded on left, VZW one on right)
(sorry about the sideways-ness)
Also, neither one of them have active accounts, yet the unbranded one still shows a 1X connection and can (slowly) browse the web. Weird...

tell htc something lol

Didn't the phone have "with htcsense" on the info pages on best buy's old online advertisement and ces? Then changed to "with google"?

satseaker said:
how do you figure,he doesn't have to show you anything, you could ask if he would bur you ain't entitled to anything!
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Lmao u mad bro? Don't be getting all mad at me when you're on your period homie. I was saying it in a polite way. No way did I mean it rude. Now mind ya business n keep moving
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Haha that's cool. Wow you're lucky I'll trade u phones
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I am going to write your telephone number all over public restroom walls across new york "For a good time call mooglepimp, he'll do what she wont and then some"

What should I do now with my crappy?

Well I upgraded to the sgsII. But I have mixed feelings about what to do with my trusty cappy. No one in my family wants it and none of my friends around here have atnt...
I dont know if I should sell it or keep it as a backup. It seems like just a waste to leave it sitting around in the box. Besides it's basically a brand new phone (2 week old 11.02 built/refurb) Never has been messed with. (Roms) No blemishes or marks at all. No sleep death or gps issues. I just got it replaced due to a crappy gps.
Should I be able to get at least $200 for it if I got the ebay route? I have everything it came with plus a otter box commuter.

ebay the puppy or donate it to a DEV .;-)

Donate it to LOSTLOGIC89!!
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Stevenrogers_420 said:
Donate it to LOSTLOGIC89!!
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+1...especially with DG moving away from the Captivate.

Lostlogic89 needs one
Currently Pinnacle 1.2 and have never been happier

I concur,,if you can afford to do so donate to lostlogic89,,those of staying with the captivate for a while longer would probably all appreciate it

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Donate it to LOSTLOGIC89!!
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+1 on this one!!
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That would be great if possible .
It will cut me si much extra work .

NascarFastcar said:
Well I upgraded to the sgsII. But I have mixed feelings about what to do with my trusty cappy. No one in my family wants it and none of my friends around here have atnt...
I dont know if I should sell it or keep it as a backup. It seems like just a waste to leave it sitting around in the box. Besides it's basically a brand new phone (2 week old 11.02 built/refurb) Never has been messed with. (Roms) No blemishes or marks at all. No sleep death or gps issues. I just got it replaced due to a crappy gps.
Should I be able to get at least $200 for it if I got the ebay route? I have everything it came with plus a otter box commuter.
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Does it mean they fixed GPS issues in newer/refurb captivates? Could you confirm what build is safe, or what to look for? I might pick one up for mom.

same situations except mines is older. mine just sits on my desk. thinking about using it like an ipod touch or something. how much would this go for anyway if we were to sell? no one has answered that except to give it to them for free.

flytronix said:
same situations except mines is older. mine just sits on my desk. thinking about using it like an ipod touch or something. how much would this go for anyway if we were to sell? no one has answered that except to give it to them for free.
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Sorry man they run around 150-200ish. Yours with case prolly 180. Wasn't stallin or beggin just figured you could checkout ebay and craigslist yourself to find out what they are selling for.
Steve

sides most of us was suggesting someone we have no personal contact with or knowledge of other than the excellent work done to make the captivate a better phone,,and done without one

ebay is your best bet.

You can mail it to watsa so he can keep developing captivate roms
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Sell it
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sumeet909 said:
Does it mean they fixed GPS issues in newer/refurb captivates? Could you confirm what build is safe, or what to look for? I might pick one up for mom.
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Ive been really busy.
Heres the gps stock. Just gps test installed to do this test. Not wifi/network so its a true gps test.
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It's a refurb that I got 2 weeks before this posting. 10.12 built.
Ive been trying ebay with a $200 buy it now. comes with everything, and a otterbox commuter etc.
Only people that seem to be bidding are from Russia, Ukrian. They have fake ebay accounts with us address but they cannot checkout thru a non us paypal. It' seems to be a 99% scam. I might post it here in the market if this continues to happen. I hate it. I even have like size 7 font in red telling them not to bid etc lol

I would really love to see a developer that makes a media player rom. Basically what I'm thinking of is an ipod touch like u.i. so I can keep my cappy around as an awesome storage device/mp3 player/wifi only browser after my upgrade.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Andromeda3.

capocaccia said:
I would really love to see a developer that makes a media player rom. Basically what I'm thinking of is an ipod touch like u.i. so I can keep my cappy around as an awesome storage device/mp3 player/wifi only browser after my upgrade.
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There is a thread somewhere that does that very thing. I think it was called Captivate Touch.

Just give it to LOSTLOGIC. All in favor?

talk to josh from mobile tech videos. he was looking for a captivate a while back to do videos with. im sure you guys could come to some kind of agreement.

G2x?

Hey everyone I am new to this forum and man it has alot of good infos. I have a nexus one and now planning to get a new phone and g2x caught my attention as i saw alot of them going for cheap on craigslist. I was wondering how G2x is in terms of reliabilty? I did come across alot of people complaining about the phone rebooting itself and some other issues. So i was just curious if it would be a better upgrade to a nexus one Thanks

After installing Custom ROMS and Kernels, the G2x is sweet.
but its six of one, half a dozen of the other...
Doing so will technically void the warranty on your new phone (if used, pffffsssshhhtt...install to your hearts content). But doing so will also make it run so awesome, youd prolly never need to file warranty claim.
Also when done right, it is fully reversible back to "stock" should you need to send it in.
Thanks to xda members and staff, the tool set for flashing the g2x is solid, well documented, and damn near full proof against permanent bricking.

jhayton said:
After installing Custom ROMS and Kernels, the G2x is sweet.
but its six of one, half a dozen of the other...
Doing so will technically void the warranty on your new phone (if used, pffffsssshhhtt...install to your hearts content). But doing so will also make it run so awesome, youd prolly never need to file warranty claim.
Also when done right, it is fully reversible back to "stock" should you need to send it in.
Thanks to xda members and staff, the tool set for flashing the g2x is solid, well documented, and damn near full proof against permanent bricking.
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Nice thats what I was hoping for. I want to get an used one so I guess using the custom roms should be ok for me. Will look around the market a little more for some and look around here for more infos on roms and stuff as I am fairly new here .

i picked up a 2nd very clean (like new) g2x off ebay for 180. With all the new devices rolling out, last years models are going cheaper. also keep in mind, TMO is having huge sale the 11th
http://bit.ly/A5eQDW
Everything "free", if you sign new or re-up contract, and do MIR. TMO will often offer the g2x free as a web only deal. keep checking if you want new.

Wow you got a deal on ebay, they usually go higher than that. Yea I checked those phones looks like they are giving the g2x for free too. I was thinking about getting one for free and get a two year contract but they told me that I got to get a new plan for that too which kind of sucks. Right now paying 79$ for 1500 mins unlimited text+10$ web2go(1 line) for 4 lines which I think is an ok deal hate to see this one go. I am out of contract too.

G2x great phone. Craigslist problems. Too many post from people purchasing from Cragslist and the phone not working or being blacklisted. You should do face time with seller and phone before making payment.

Or just buy a nexus s on Craigslist, way better imho, specially coming from n1
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Amazon always tends to have great deals on phones.
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GTWalling said:
G2x great phone. Craigslist problems. Too many post from people purchasing from Cragslist and the phone not working or being blacklisted. You should do face time with seller and phone before making payment.
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Oh wow this makes me nervous. How are they usually blacklisted? Is it when its reported stolen?

Dont buy a g2x that's the best advice you are going to get period
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Adibee said:
Oh wow this makes me nervous. How are they usually blacklisted? Is it when its reported stolen?
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They're blacklisted when reported stolen. I would put your SIM card in the phone and make a phone call, send an SMS, and test data before you buy it.
Sent from my Phoenix Blood G2x

b1337 said:
Dont buy a g2x that's the best advice you are going to get period
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So the nexus S is much better? Hmm now I am confused :S lol. How are the specs different I thought the g2x has a better screen and better processing power and more data speed right?

Adibee said:
So the nexus S is much better? Hmm now I am confused :S lol. How are the specs different I thought the g2x has a better screen and better processing power and more data speed right?
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ive had both and i can tell you that the nexus s is way better, just look at all the posts in there respective forums and that should tell you right away, look at all the g2x owners who say "nvidea never again" plus custom/roms/options/and the fact they EOL'd the g2x...nuff said...you own a nexus one so it should be a no brainer to stay with the nexus line...

b1337 said:
Or just buy a nexus s on Craigslist, way better imho, specially coming from n1
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First of all he's asking about the g2x, not what phone he should buy and before u post saying how the nexus s is better, u should give a reason and be specefic. The op doesn't know the phone so don't be general.
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Btw doesnt the Nexus S run on 3g instead of 4g?

moeahmad1995 said:
First of all he's asking about the g2x, not what phone he should buy and before u post saying how the nexus s is better, u should give a reason and be specefic. The op doesn't know the phone so don't be general.
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ok bud im entitled to my opinion, he asked a general question, i told him what i thought where to look and if he wants to know more he can ask, maybe you should try posting something useful and less general yourself
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Btw doesnt the Nexus S run on 3g instead of 4g?
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NS still get up to 5 down 3.5 up, unless u are a heavy tether-er do you really need more? plus u dont pay the $10 more for the 4g plan
plus you get ICS with the NS, something g2x users will be drooling over for a while

b1337 said:
ok bud im entitled to my opinion, he asked a general question, i told him what i thought where to look and if he wants to know more he can ask, maybe you should try posting something useful and less general yourself
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NS still get up to 5 down 3.5 up, unless u are a heavy tether-er do you really need more? plus u dont pay the $10 more for the 4g plan
plus you get ICS with the NS, something g2x users will be drooling over for a while
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Dont get Nexus s, my wife has it. While it is a pretty good phone, g2x IS better. Nvidia had released all the drivers, ics isnt that big of a deal, i had to install cm7 on that phone because stock ics had bugs.
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b1337 said:
NS still get up to 5 down 3.5 up, unless u are a heavy tether-er do you really need more? plus u dont pay the $10 more for the 4g plan
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"Up to" 5 down?...Did you take marketing? Lol...why not post some SS of your actual usage and speed.
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jhayton said:
"Up to" 5 down?...Did you take marketing? Lol...why not post some SS of your actual usage and speed.
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seriously? lol ok, uhh when did this turn into a data speed test?? and i could give a **** about marketing..i swear most g2x owners are the same...butthurt..
this is at my home with 1 occasionally 2 bars of service

Butt hurt eh? You're the one dropping colorful metaphors. Regardless..
Ill spend the extra 10$ and enjoy 4g on a device that supports it.
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Thinking of jumping ship....

Idk... I'm thinking of jumping ship in another 2 weeks.
Gonna jump from my G2X to a Sensation.. Idk... Maybe :|

Cool story bro, you have anything else to say? I'm not being a **** though why cause it has ICS now? Cause your g2x is a lemon?
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I've been thinking about this for a while now. I'm keeping my g2x until the new nexus phones come out, and then sticking to pure nexus phones from Google. I'm sick of waiting for venders and carriers to work together for releases, and I'm sick of crap that carriers add to phones which is useless and slows them down. I normally root my phone and install CM on it anyway, but with the g2x even that isn't a 100% working solution anymore.
By the way, I read that Google is releasing up to 5 different nexus phones from different vendors around Thanksgiving this year. I'd wait for that!
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Cool story bro, you have anything else to say? I'm not being a **** though why cause it has ICS now? Cause your g2x is a lemon?
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No, in fact if you search up my previous post, my G2X, is one of the few that has zero flaws.
I'm jumping ship because the Sensation has more Dev support. (Really a lot of dev) They recently got official CM9.

Dralanmage said:
I've been thinking about this for a while now. I'm keeping my g2x until the new nexus phones come out, and then sticking to pure nexus phones from Google. I'm sick of waiting for venders and carriers to work together for releases, and I'm sick of crap that carriers add to phones which is useless and slows them down. I normally root my phone and install CM on it anyway, but with the g2x even that isn't a 100% working solution anymore.
By the way, I read that Google is releasing up to 5 different nexus phones from different vendors around Thanksgiving this year. I'd wait for that!
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When the new Nexus phones come out, I'll watch for a price break on the Galaxy Nexus and probably pick one up.

You are being a ****. In every thread I read you got some smart-ass remark. I bet you never eff-up,huh? gtfo;-)
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deathknellx said:
You are being a ****. In every thread I read you got some smart-ass remark. I bet you never eff-up,huh? gtfo;-)
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I'm almost positive this was towards me, and well... ok. Maybe if people actually searched or didn't make retarded threads I wouldn't be, I help when help is needed (as in if someone searches and posts in an already created thread like these ones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1449382
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342085
I searched for 10 seconds and found both of these. It's pointless to make a thread like this, especially with the OP's statement, does he want a cookie for wanting a sensation? Lastly OP my interest is not to stock what you have said in other threads, if you make a new thread make it worthwhile to read for the community, not something useless and informative.
Hey XDA I just had Chipotle, and added way too much Cholula to it.

If you're gonna jump ship, just do it.
The community for the G2x has been flawless, but I have seen the future, and I left it for the GS II. Man, they're a live one over there. Everyone's awesome and welcoming; a bit impatient at times when they ask for ROM updates (lol smh), but generally nice people.
Now all the devs here are a capable bunch, and they've managed to do what LG/T-Mobile/Nvidia couldn't do. I've said this time and time again. But without those 3 giving this phone even half of the effort, we suffer ultimately. In Driver support, Camera support, ICS support, annoying bugs going unfixed. The devs have to pick up all the slack, and that sucks. I left because of the circumstances that those 3 have put us in, and I'd say it's a fair assessment.
But if you're gonna jump ship, I suggest you don't do it for whoever gets ICS first. There's no way I would have gone to the Sensation, too many hoops to jump through, S-OFF, bootloader, etc. That phone's pretty thick too, not enough internal memory either (Nice camera though). Jump when you decide your time here has come to an end, when you have felt like you can enjoy this phone no longer, or if you feel you just need an upgrade/better spec'd phone. I believe those are valid reasons, as well as explanations that don't tick off the rest of the community. x) Cheers on your future smartphone endeavors!

ya i was on the same boat when the phone came out but meh there is a lot of things that i love about this brick lol but mind you the galaxy S3 is coming out so i might go out and buy one of those this summer

Just jump already
It all depends on what you want the phone to do for you... and what you are willing to do for the phone!
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previously owned the sensation and I believe that the g2x is way smoother and feels better in the hands, though the dev community over there is rocking

Really? G2X feels better in the hand? I got to try it out at the store, been looking to get my hands on a sensation off craigslist for a good price, probably trade for my GS2.
I'm sentimental with my devices, also, have lots of back NANDROIDS of the G2X and need to get my data out of them before selling it. Actually thats the only reason I still hang on to my G2X. Too lazy to move my stuff out of it. I can, just don't feel like it.

ICS: Finding the real answer.

There are many threads here about this device not getting an ICS update. But most of them are just basic info. I've spent a good while talking to HTC & T-Mobile to figure this out. After lots of phones calls, I have gathered a lot of information. I've took a look at it, and just wanted to point out some stuff.
After calling HTC for a while, I was kinda "banned". They would never answer my question. Until I talked to some girl in Texas. She told me that there is zero information on the the MyTouch 4G Slide getting an update. So with some quick thinking, I lied and said it's for a college project. I was researching the fragmentation with HTC phones. I was sent to a supervisor. He explained to me that updates are a 3 way partnership. HTC+T-Mobile+The User. HTC handles all the updates for this device, and does a lot of testing to see of ICS is capable of running on this device. He explained some basic info, and said it's a no. Why?
It will effect the User Experence to much
The hardware can't handle it
Blame T-Mobile
Gingerbread runs better on the device than ICS
(Also this "Supervisor" was advocating the unlocking of the boot loader, and voiding the warranty to get ICS).
So I called T-Mobile and they said that HTC handles all the updates, so I should call them.
After many generic, stupid answers. I finally got a hold of an amazing lady at HTC. She explained a lot of things I never really knew about updates. If HTC made an update for our phone, T-Mobile would push the OTA ASAP. HTC adds on all the bloat for devices, T-Mobile just needs to OK it. Also in order for our device to get an ICS update we need.....
2.3.4
2.3.5
This made little sense to me, but she explained some more information. Since this device isn't a global phone (Only TMOUS has the MT4GS). It wasn't included in the 1st batch of updates. But there IS a second batch of updates coming out, and our device might be in that update list.
But here is the really weird thing. Our device is consider similar to these devices
Desire HD
Desire Z
Desire S
Incredible 2
Incredible S
Inspire 4G
myTouch 4G
(Also the list of supported devices for Virtuous Multi device projects.)
Many of these devices where on the list to be considered for an ICS Update, also known as the "2nd Batch". But the one thing that just baffled me is that our device is consider an older device. It's in the category of these device.
But our device has high end specs? How does any of this make Sense? It only explains one thing. Why we haven't had an official confirmation, or decline for an ICS update.
So what can we do? It's so simple
Sign this, and have your friends do it too
MyTouch 4G Slide ICS Update
Bombard HTC with this. "The HTC MyTouch 4G Slide deserves an ICS Update"
HTC Facebook
Call them @ (886)449-8358
Remember last time we attacked there Facebook Page? Well according to HTC, they saw it. That's when they started started to consider our devices future.
Send them an email HTC Contact Us Page
Try to get this thread on the XDA Portal. Send this in as a tip, or hit up POORCOLLEGEKID on Twitter (Link coming soon).
Only together we can get our device the update it needs. United by One, Divided by 0.
HTC Said To E-Mail HTC-Dev. Maybe we can get a a Dev Rom. They do do that, I sent an email. So hopefully it can help. The more users who send an E-Mail the better. Just say how you'd love a Dev Rom for this phone.
http://www.htcdev.com/contact

38% there
It's offical, no update. Time to get real.
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Updates: HTC is saying our device does not meet the required ROM space...really?

Signed. Thanks for the nitty gritty work on the phone ACC
::Respect::

Signed the petition!!! everyone else should too

I will definitely make time to add to the list of people participating.
Great job, that was a lot of hard work, and sounds like you got back to the basic roots of hacking by practicing your skills at social engineering.
Posts like these really make me happy - you put a lot of effort into reaching a goal, and chose to view hindrances along the way as challenges opposed to dead ends.
AgentCherryColla said:
United by One, Divided by 0.
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That's a freaking awesome statement - likely my new sig line soon.
Sent from a digital distance.

Sighned
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Signed
Hopefully HTC listens like they did with the Amaze kernel source a few weeks ago.

signed
Thanks for the effort! Also, for not making the signature goal unrealistic. That has been the problem in the past with many petitions... anyways, I will try and get a few people to sign also. Keep up the good work, dude!

Interesting. The one comment I always wanted to make was to counter one reason people thought ICS didn't support hard keyboards. My Droid 4 has both.
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rorytmeadows said:
Interesting. The one comment I always wanted to make was to counter one reason people thought ICS didn't support hard keyboards. My Droid 4 has both.
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Yeah, yeah... good point! I think that was just for our rom's sources though. HTC could easily accommodate this since all our rom creators did...

Signed, contacted via facebook and htcdev. Come on guys we can get the message through!
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I've already decided this will be my last HTC product unless they produce the next Nexus phone. I will ONLY buy a Nexus phone from now onward. F*ck the carriers and F*ck the manufacturers, I want my damn updates straight from Google. :laugh:

Fuzi0719 said:
I've already decided this will be my last HTC product unless they produce the next Nexus phone. I will ONLY buy a Nexus phone from now onward. F*ck the carriers and F*ck the manufacturers, I want my damn updates straight from Google. :laugh:
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Aye. Nexus are great.
::Respect::

Thanks, AgentCherryColla.
Hopefully this gets pushed through. I always hated how the MyTouch 4g Slide was held away but yet it's a T-Mobile higher ended phone.
The only things I care about if this OTA goes through are the battery life, smoothness of rom and system, and simplicity.
Thanks again for the news.
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Signed
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Out of the last 4 HTC phones i have had there was always an issue with HTC not wanting to do this or that. I really appreciate the effort put in to force them to give us what we want and deserve, but 4 phones later im still having to hit them over the head. This is also my last HTC device, i will sign just so there is one more signature but the company all together has dropped the ball on Android and they no longer hold the top of the market. Its so bad and i hate HTC with such a passion im ready to trade this thing for any samsung i can get my hands on, id prolly take the original galaxy right about now, this phone has been a dissapointment since day 1 and i regret spending 300 on it. Im glad i didnt take care of it, the cosmetics now match the rest of the os, torn and abused! Anyways im done ranting now.
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Even though I've moved onto a galaxy nexus and given the slide to the girl, I've signed. I'm not buying another HTC device ( and I've had 6 going back to the winmo days) until they start properly supporting what they sell.

I'm getting a GSIII/II/Note. What ever T-Mobile gives me when I start working there Xo
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Signed. Great work re: the social engineering and persistence. Slightly bothered by "United by One, Divided by 0.". We are not Anonymous.

karri0n said:
Signed. Great work re: the social engineering and persistence. Slightly bothered by "United by One, Divided by 0.". We are not Anonymous.
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That's such an old saying, Anonymous stole it. I was on 4Chan the day everybody was talking about it Ox
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