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[Q] S-off and the htc unlocked bootloader

Hello sensation user,
i am getting my sensation tomorrow and was wondering do we still need to "S-off" with the HTC update that unlocks the bootloader?
I mean can I install CWM & custom rom's without S-off-ing the thing first?
P.s praying for CM
Thanks for your time
Jimi

Don't use the HTC method, use Revolutionary as you can keep your warranty

Downgrade from ICS back to Gingerbread (SensationXE )

Hello,
Upgraded to the ICS Ruu Beta. Happy with ICS even with it being a beta its really good. I'm very unhappy with the battery life though. I can take my phone off charge at 9am , By 2pm my phone is already saying that its going flat and needs charged. By half 3 my phone is flat :'(. The power was never the best but at least I got most of a day from it.
I would love to go to the Orange Ruu . ( As it has the wifi calling option that I really really want!!) . But the one that I downloaded keeps saying that the model ID is incorrect. In the past the unbranded HTC rom was fine. Now after going to ICS I want to go back to gingerbread but I keep getting the same model ID not recognized.
I would love if someone could help me get my Sensation XE running the Orange Branded Rom . ( I don't mind if it had to be a Sensation Rom unclocking my processor ( Giving a better battery life ))

I think the problem is that you have SuperCID so the RUU cannot recognize your device as Orange branded. What you need to do is find the Orange CID and change it back to it via the same method you used to SuperCID.

Why? If there is an Orange RUU then just flash it as Super CID will allow it. If you're getting the Model ID error that's because you've NOT got Super CID as you can't flash a non-XE RUU on an XE model without it

Thanks for your replys,
Whats supercid? My phone was a Phones 4 u de branded HTC sensation XE. Does that mean anything or have I just not understood ?
Jamie
Just had a google to see what it was . I seen a post [First result on google after searching super cid] about it. I have downloaded the file but don't know how to do the commands it says :O. Would getting this working work with the Orange rom? In the past I have had Other roms working via clockwork and had it rooted but dont have any of them options since flashing with ICS Ruu
Edit 2 - **LOCKED** , Pyramid PVT ship S-off RL. Hboot 1.20

Jamieearl said:
Thanks for your replys,
Whats supercid? My phone was a Phones 4 u de branded HTC sensation XE. Does that mean anything or have I just not understood ?
Jamie
Just had a google to see what it was . I seen a post [First result on google after searching super cid] about it. I have downloaded the file but don't know how to do the commands it says :O. Would getting this working work with the Orange rom? In the past I have had Other roms working via clockwork and had it rooted but dont have any of them options since flashing with ICS Ruu
Edit 2 - **LOCKED** , Pyramid PVT ship S-off RL. Hboot 1.20
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Go to dev section and read guide. Step 4 is super cid.

flashing ICS back to stock

Hey guys,
I have to flash my HTC Sensation back to stock, because it have a little hardware error (its sometimes suddenly shutting down ...)
My Sensation is from Germany..
On my phone is currently the Cyanogenmod 9. Yesterday I flashed the eng Hboot 1.17, because I read somewhere that i have to. Is this true?
After this I wanted to restore my backup of the original Rom, but this doesn't work. There were some errors and so on.
I think if I would send it back to HTC I have to uninstall the CWM and I have to install the old Hboot 1.18, but after a lot of reading today and yesterday I'm very confused., because I found no working way ...
greets
Tobi

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516255
Person with pretty much same problem and some advice.

1. Flash old 1.17 FW (unless you're Super CID, in which case you may not need to)
-> ok i flashed a 1.17 FW. Everything is still working without any issue,but after I unlocked my phone i had the 1.17.111and so on FW. Now I have the 1.17.2008. Is this maybe a wrong fw?
2. Flash the RUU of your choice (normally the one your phone came with, if available)
->I don't know the RUU which my phone came with , the most was done by the program revolutionary. I have an unbranded European Sensation. Which is the right RUU?
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.27.401.3_Radio_10.42.9007.00P_10.11.9007.15_M_release_192183_signed.exe
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_10.42.9007.00P_10.11.9007.15_M_release_192608_signed.exe
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.1_Radio_10.43a.9007.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_198179_signed.exe
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.45.401.2_Radio_10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01_M_release_208857_signed.exe
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.45.401.3_Radio_10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01_M_release_219990_signed.exe
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.50.401.1_R_Radio_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2_release_228602_signed.exe
I read that I can brinck my phone very fast with it, so it is very important
I just have to download the exe and run it, after this it will flash my phone if it is in USB Debugging ?
I hope it is so easy to downgrade the phone from 4.0.3 to 2.3.4
3. Reset Super CID to one of your choice (again, usually the one your phone came with)
Is this important? Or is it enought if I just reinsert the battery, becuase I don't know if I'm Super CID
4. S-ON using the fastboot command in the guide in the Dev forum
with adb-tools:
-fastboot oem writesecureflag 3
-fastboot reboot-bootloader
right?

RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.50.401.1_R_Radio_10.58.90 35.00U_10.15.9035.02_2_release_228602_signed.exe
This was on my unbranded Sensation when I bought it.
For SuperCID look here (Step 4):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300&page=1

warning
i updated to icecreamsandwich firmware h boot 1.23. i neede to go back to stock so i follwed directions on guide to s-on and ran ruu that came with my phone and it says error get the right bootloader ruu .however it didnt brick it but bootloader says security warning wifi and wifi hotspot both gives error. ive tried everything i know to fix it with no luck. ive heard its because i upgraded the firmware.

ok I'm now on Super cid. This was just very easy
Ok now I have to download the RUU (filefactory is very slow... )
What will happen, when I would flash the wrong EU ROM? Or is this just impossible?
Is it important to reset the cid to the cid which was set, when I got the phone? Or is it set back by flashing the RUU?
I have a lot of questions, but I don't wanna brick my lovely phone
Edit:
Ok everything is now fine. My phone is now on Andorid 2.3.4, S-On, old CID and unrootet...
I hope they will repair it, because sometimes the phone run 2 days without any issue and sometimes it just runs some hours without issue...

[Q] confused with the terms.. need help with root

hi..
i am all stranger to HTC world.. i have been using galaxy s, s2 and ace.. things were easier when it came to rooting and flashing custom roms.. or at least there was less terms.. 3 days ago i bougth Sensation XE and since then i have been reading every page but the more i read, the more i get cunfused...
so, what i want is basically trying new kernels, OCing, using apps like setcpu or titanium backup etc.. in order to do these rooting the device was enough with the galaxy devices.. but here there are lots of terms..
here is what i think i understand;
S-off= this means unlocking the NAND part to be re-writable i guess.. the funny part is; i want to root the device and i guess i have to S-off the device but it says in order to S-off the device you must have alredy rooted it? or i am wrong?
Hboot version=i think this is very important since we have to choose the methots according to this... mine is 1.27.0000
super CID= no idea what this is.. but i assume it has no important role on rooting..
and there is the bootloader unlock option= htcdev.com is doing it but they say if i do it my phone is out of warranty.. it is just a 3 day phone and i dont want to lose the warranty... and i also have read some post about it not being a complete unlock.. so any method other then offical HTC ones would be better for not losing the warranty (i am sure even if i lock it back when its necessary, HTC will still have the records of me unlocking my device and wont let me use the warranty) ..
and there is this guide on the development section, it is really helpfull but the date of it tells me it was before ice cream sandwich update and 1.27.0000 hboot version and some of the instructions confirms that... so i guess i need some other method to root my device ... (after everything i am not even sure if the rooting is excatly what i need)
long story for short; i am lost among the terms and instructions.. especially after i tried to S-off my device in order to root and learnt it needed to be rooted first in order to be S-off .....
so please help me with the terms and instructions..
thanks ..

Okay, root is not needed to s off.
S-off disables the security on your bootloader.
Supercid means you can flash any piece of software no matter what area or network it was intended for, as each one has a cid code that restricts the software to the network or countrys phone e.g. unbranded sensations cid is HTC__001 and Vodafone would be VODA__xx. Supercid changes your cid to 11111111 which means everything that is protected by any cid code will work on your phone.
Back to s-off, using revolutionary tool is pretty easy as long as you follow the instructions correctly but will not work on hboot 1.27 so it requires downgrading using an ruu or eng. Hboot 1.17 or finding another method to s off 1.27, once s off using revolutionary all you have to do is flash a custom recovery and then flash superuser and voila your rooted. But you can also s-off, install custom recovery, upgrade firmware to 1.27 and flash a prerooted custom Rom which obviously does the trick. Just make sure to keep a track of what firmware you are on and make sure it works with what your doing and the Rom you're using. Oh and htcdev unlock is not necessary as you can flash a firmware with a unlocked bootloader plus revolutionary also unlocks bootloader. And as far as warranty goes, once s off or bootloader is unlocked your warranty is VOID.
Hope this helps
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium

Fİnally! everything makes sense thanks a lot..
so the first step is to downgrade to a firmware which i can S-off and unlock, then to get back to pre-rooted version of my current firmware..
so i assume just like i can downgrade, S-off and unlock, i also can upgrade, S-on and lock back when i need the warranty?

Almost firmware contains the radio and Hboot etc, to obtain root you just first s off on the downgraded firmware, then upgrade to an unlocked firmware that is for ics. The firmware for ics is 3.32 which contains Hboot 1.27 but of course you cannot s off on this version of Hboot. Then flash a pre rooted ROM once you have gone back to ics firmware using a custom recovery. Once s off, you will not lose it when upgrading to a new firmware. But to s-on is risky but if you manage to do it without semi bricking your phone and then flash a locked bootloader HTC will never know you've voided your warranty as long as your on an unrooted Rom. I will pm you a great link for doing this and explaining as I know this is confusing. I won't post it here because its on another forum.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium

this really explains everything.. its just like showing the entire map and also telling the route.. thank you very much, you are the best

No problem if you could hit the thanks button I would greatly appreciate it
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium

[REF] Dead/Bricked phone after JB OTA, QHSUSB_DLOAD

Hi All,
There are more and more reports coming in from people who ended up with a dead/bricked phone after the JellyBean Update 4.1.1 , 3.16.401.8 OTA. As you connect it to your PC you will soon find out it's in QHSUSB_DLOAD mode.
The purpose of this threat is to see how many people are affected, what people have done to attempt to recover their phone, and to find a possible solution (this chance seems rather small though).
There are alot of post about this in the JellyBean Speculation/News/Discussion threat, starting from page 157.
There are 2 threats about it in Q&A:
One S in QHSUSB_DLOAD mode
My HTC to really died
Reported attempts to recover:
QHSUSB_DLOAD Fix by team Unlimited
Unbricking HTC devices with the QHSUSB_DLOAD issue tutorial by kgs1992
Step 3 (and some others) from [TUT] Downgrade/Unbrick Ville S4
Another HTC one V recover guide where i can't find the link for.
Please report here if you have this issue. Please mention your CID, in what country you downloaded the OTA, the software version you upgrade from and the hboot version.
Also any new ideas to recover our phones our self are welcome!
My phone:
2.31 Unbranded Europe
1.14 Hboot
Downloaded in The Netherlands
1111111 Supercid

I have exactly the same problem, waiting...

As far as I know the issue is only caused by people who previously had SuperCID.
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2

usaff22 said:
As far as I know the issue is only caused by people who previously had SuperCID.
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I thought I saw a report of a fully stock device and one htc__001 cid as well. I can't find them at the moment, but this is also why I started this threat. But there seem to be more of these reports of supercid indeed, though there are also allot with supercid who successfully updated.

My phone is bricked too
Orginal CID was HTC_0001 (maybe), branded by 1&1 Germany
but changed to 11111111 to flash a unbranded RUU (what had worked)
I had Stock Recovery and relocked bootloader

My phone is bricked too
SuperCID 11111111 Hboot 1.14 Recovery Stock y Relocked bootloader.

My phone is bricked too
Orginal CID was HTC_203 (maybe), not branded by telecom company - France
but changed to 11111111
I had Stock Recovery and relocked bootloader and flash the 2.31 RUU

hellgod said:
My phone is bricked too
Orginal CID was HTC_203 (maybe), not branded by telecom company - France
but changed to 11111111
I had Stock Recovery and relocked bootloader and flash the 2.31 RUU
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Dam it didnt mean to hit thank so enjoy that lol.
@Vauix, did you run a RUU before updating? if so what one?

let's discuss who and what options tried to output the list of sections? How you think why it happened?

All of them seem to be caused by SuperCID. But the updater script allows flashing for SuperCID, so I wonder why they get bricked.
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2

I agree with you. But what it is necessary to undertake that Ubuntu saw sections?

Same here.
SuperCID and ota
Now nobody can call me

Same here.
SuperCID too

Darknites said:
Dam it didnt mean to hit thank so enjoy that lol.
@Vauix, did you run a RUU before updating? if so what one?
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Yes I ran a RUU prior to flashing this update, i didn't chance anything to the rom yet but to search for the OTA. it was the RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5_Radio_1.06es.50.02.31_10.09a.50.04L_release_275655_signed.exe
I thought about my supercid before I ran the RUU but i thought the worst thing that could happen was i could get a error that it couldn't flash it.
Its rather weird that some guys with supercid managed to flash it successfully. And i still think I saw some people with other cid's with bricked devices.

SuperCID too, previously Vodafone germany, unbranded an relocked ...

I ran the OTA update twice on my supercid'd device successfully.
In opposite to what I could read here, my bootloader was unlocked before and still after the update.
The first time I ran the update I forgot to reflash stock recovery. The phone started updating and rebooted, but no changes had happened. After restoring stock recovery and downloading the update again, I successfully updated.
As I couldn't get root I restored Venom and downgraded my new hboot from 2.15 to 1.06.
Today I started a second try successfully without a glitch.
Basically I keep an untouched nandroid backup of every new rom installation on my local harddisk. This means in case of custom roms I do a nandroid before the first boot.
As this is not possible on stock recovery I change back to custom recovery after the first boot, doing my backup then. I'm just checking the needed boxes otherwise I only proceed during the setup - the complete customization is done afterwards.
In this case I restored a backup called 2012-08-23--08-18-16_htc_stock_2.31
Stock here means: No apps, no customizations, no nothing, simply: stock and supercid.
After that was done I restored apps with Titanium.
That's how it worked (pretty simple) Maybe this will help you find some reasons for what has happened to your devices.

Same problem here...
SuperCID

All people here seem to have SuperCID, I have not.
I got my ville for about 7 months now and never had SuperCID.
I did it like everytime:
-Wiped everything ( Data / Cache / System )
-Flashed Stock Recovery
-Relocked
-Flashed 2.31 Europe RUU in Bootloader ( yes, that works but I guess noone knows )
-Downloaded 4.1.1 Update and let the Device do its magic
Now my phone is bricked.
Strange enough, a good friend of mine whos barely able to use its phone, got the same issue.
Im 100% sure he doesnt have any modifications done to his device.
Already tried the Ubricking-Tutorial but the Partitions just dont show up :-/

I did the super CID, too. No my phone is dead. Won't even charge.
I tried to do Enumerating the partitions but could only find up to 3. No 4 or 12.
Please help :crying:

SuperCID, German ONE S unbranded. Dead.
Unbrick/Downgrade instruction did not work here.