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Now that we have root, what about a failsafe?

Okay, I used a G1 since October 20th, and rooted a few months later when I felt the process was easy enough and could be reversed. I'm not sure how long it'll take on the myTouch, but I'm thinking I'll wait and keep my G1 by my side for Tethering purposes, only because I'm scared to death of breaking the ROM. I mean, we don't even have the original ROM do we? Or at least the SAPPIMG.NBH with all of the myTouch factory software on it? The DREAIMG.NBH used to get back to RC29 was a life saver whenever I goofed things up on my G1. I'd just reflash it from the phone, on the road, and then could do all the rooting on the device. The biggest problem I'm running into is that I'm stuck on a 4 yr old iBook G4, so making the goldcard is going to be weird. I'll probably have to find a way to do it through MS VirtualPC with Windows XP and turn on USB pass-through. Any ideas?
Does anyone know of a way to backup the myTouch ROM before digging in too deep? I love nandroid's capabilities, and the cyanogen recovery 1.4 is of GREAT use on my G1, is it compatible with the myTouch? I'm sure some of this is available by digging through the threads, but this computer's 800x600 screen size is KILLING me (the laptop display cracked, so I'm stuck on an external monitor, and maximum output is 800x600)
Plus, if I have to do any exchanges, it's best to keep everything at factory before sending it in. And I will definitely need to do that should I have any problems. So a factory SAPPIMG would be great. Know how to get ahold of one? Anyone?

Wow, 85 reads, no replies rather surprised, but a regular search on Google for the MyTouch SAPPIMG ROM pulled up a page here on xda...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533641
Is this REALLY the myTouch ROM? even if it's the one from before the "Work Email" app came as an OTA (COC1 is the build) that'd be fine, the phone will pull that later on and I don't use it anyway...
Any ideas on whether or not this particular "update.zip" style ROM will refresh me back if i get in a bind and break android? I'm putting some hope on it. According to what's in the rooting thread, the ION's radio ROM is the same as the myTouch's shipping radio, right? Other than that, the SPL is the only other thing that'd need replaced before doing a warranty exchange, so that's all that's left to "unroot" the device. Anyone have access to that, or have a way to dump it?

Allong the same line as this... I am in Japan on a DOCOMO HT-03. Doubt there is a rom avail around here... I havent gotten in to the rooting yet.. But can i use nandroid to creat a back up of my own(with all of my settings).. Or even Extract the orignal rom, to post here as a repository for anyone else...

[Q] Autoupdated firmware.. am I screwed for root?

Just bought the Thunderbolt today to replace my aging (but much loved,) OG Droid. The guy at Verizon insisted on turning it on and syncing my contacts before I could leave - I didn't think much of it and pocketed the phone on my way out the door. When I took it out of my pocket at home it was rebooting itself and I was worried I'd need to take it back but then I noticed it was updating Verizon's software as well as the firmware, apparently. I'm now running 1.13.605.7 - which by all accounts seems to be unrootable. From my googling I've deduced I can't seem to rollback any firmwawre upgrades without being rooted which also seems to be impossible at this point.
Am I correct in assuming this?
(Apologies if this has been posted, I tried to find it for a good half hour beforehand.)

Nurga said:
Just bought the Thunderbolt today to replace my aging (but much loved,) OG Droid. The guy at Verizon insisted on turning it on and syncing my contacts before I could leave - I didn't think much of it and pocketed the phone on my way out the door. When I took it out of my pocket at home it was rebooting itself and I was worried I'd need to take it back but then I noticed it was updating Verizon's software as well as the firmware, apparently. I'm now running 1.13.605.7 - which by all accounts seems to be unrootable. From my googling I've deduced I can't seem to rollback any firmwawre upgrades without being rooted which also seems to be impossible at this point.
Am I correct in assuming this?
(Apologies if this has been posted, I tried to find it for a good half hour beforehand.)
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I see no reason that firmware isn't rootable via my tutorial.

I'll seek it out then, thanks.

Let us know what happens! Good luck to you!

Bricked my shift, wont boot, need help bad and fast!!!

I was having trouble trying to flash back to the orig sprint ruu. After toying around, I finally got it to flash completely, only thing is...it still had the METRO banner. I ignored it.
So I hit the search bar and was looking for the best way to root it. Several options came up, I clicked one, and proceeded. Now, after trying to restart the phone, it will not boot at all, it wont go into recovery, all it was doing was flashing a steady orange light. After unplugging and replugging for a few hours, now all it does is just flash a blinking orange light.
I tried to use the ruu flash again on the pc, it gets to the point where it says the img version: version-main FAILED (status read failed (Too many links)). I select to update the current Rom version and it just hangs.
Here is why Im having these issues. I used this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 which isnt even for the shift, its for a damn htc glacier mytouch. I never browse for other phones except the evo, but i was taken there from the search while I was inside the shift sub-forum. A mistake that could have been prevented if only I didnt trust the search bar that it would stay within the "shift" sub-forums. Feck, Feck, FECK!!!
Then, i went here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010397&highlight=bricked to figure a way to unbrick it, everybody is saying this guy need a new battery. I doubt that will help my cause.
Right now, my epic is activated? Should I switch the shift on that line, and take it in to the sprint store? Swapping phones on sprintpcs.com just involve adding in meid numbers thats on the phone only, or do the phone need to be on (booted up) to add more numbers? Never done it and just trying to figuer out my best option here? Or is there any other way I can atleast get the shift to boot so i can reflash the ruu?

Congrats you successfully truely bricked your phone. There is no way to recover from it. That sucks dude.
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TRUE BRICK? thats not what I wanted to hear. By using the flash ruu, doesnt my phone needs to be turned on? Or that doesnt matter?
Im hoping that since its all software based modifications that was made, then it should be as simple as re-writing those software/programming mods?

Head to the irc stickied at the top of the page. If anyone can help you it will be there but I wouldn't hold out hope.
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I'd activate it and go to Sprint. Don't tell them what happened. They'll just order you a new one if you have insurance and if not you'll have to pay $35.

See if you can find a charged battery for a Shift, TouchPro2, Hero, or original Evo and pop that in, it's worth a try. I know someone else with the flashing orange light was able to fix their phone by using a new battery.

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I'd activate it and go to Sprint. Don't tell them what happened. They'll just order you a new one if you have insurance and if not you'll have to pay $35.
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That's what I'd do. But they might charge you the deductable ($100) . Just be sure to under no circumstance tell them you did it. Hell if it's truely bricked just tell them you dropped it in water. That way they don't even check it. But, remember that's just my opinion .

If you are using the dropping it in water method make sure you do get the battery wet as there is an indicator on the batteries to see if the phone has been wet. It's a paper strip and will turn pink when it has been in water...
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If all else fails and you're planning a drowning defense, why not just drop it in the water (tee hee)?
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Guys, I've worked out an alternative solution, and its way much easier. Will update about my secret weapon in due time, lol.

Eek a true brick. That's scary as hello. I rooted via visionary and the dd method. I've only heard of bricks but never saw one first hand.
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i have never had to pay a deductible for a defective phone. almost every single phone i have had has had some issue that i havent been happy with, sprint has either replaced or repaired it at no cost to me. so dont get it wet, just take it in and tell them it cut out during a call or something, and now you cant turn it back on. done and done, you'll have your replacement.

[Q] HTC Evo Shift - Software Upgrade

Hi all,
I'm going to be getting an HTC Evo Shift from someone, which I think has Android 2.2 Froyo on it.
The phone was reported lost and a replacement obtained, then after getting the replacement the old phone was found.... but Sprint said they had written it off, and didn't want the old one back. The ESN remains blocked on Sprint because of this, but they won't unblock it and just said they didn't want it.
Soooo, I'm going to use it as a WiFi only device... but I'd really like to get Gingerbread 2.3 onto it somehow... which I'm assuming can't be done OTA if the ESN is blocked on the Sprint network?
Also, I'm in Canada so once I get it, I won't have access to the Sprint network at all.... and I don't know if the update can be downloaded and installed manually through the computer or what. Anyone know?
I heard the Evo Shift can be rooted as well, but that sounds very complicated to me... so I'm still figuring out what my options are with regards to getting the software as updated as possible.
Any advice would be appreciated

id personally recommend reading up on how to root your fone..
and once you get that going...
you can just install a diff rom that has 2.3 on it..
=D

hey
I did a bit of reading on rooting bit it seems like its different for all devices and some are "one click" solutions while others are multi-step instructions full of unfamilliar terms and procedures which could ruin the phone. lol
I did read some instructions that pertained to the Evo Shift, but there was much involved that my brain shut off after reading the first few steps.
I was really hoping for something simple. but that might be a pipe dream, eh?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-976605.html
Looks like the simplest root method for the shift. I haven't tried it, but since it is on xda good chance it is well supported.
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Thanks for the link.
Still sounds scary... but I'll finish reading the rest of the discussion later and see what others ultimately had to say about it.
Still open to comments from others too if anyone has any.
I dont have the phone yet, I'm just getting prepared so I can get to work updating it as soon as it arrives.

Easy and fast root method
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The link that was posted would be the easiest for someone but the perm root instructions that are stickied in the development section is what I have used many times on my shift and my girls shift when I root, you can do it either from the pc or from terminal on your phone just have to make sure the commands are exact so I would say just use the pc and copy from the root instructions and paste in command prompt. There are a few gingerbread ROMS to choose from 2 are stock, one is newkidds the other is X99s ROM, then there is MikShiFted-G which is a very optimized and snappy GB, and last there is Elite v1.2 over on themikmik which is based off MikShifted-G but has carousel Rosie and 3D widgets, whatever you do don't try the ota if it goes through you will be stuck with a OS that hasn't been rooted yet
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Thanks for the replies guys.
I might give it a shot when it arrives.
There is a lot more I need to look into first.
I've seen lots of people say that if a CDMA phone has a carrier blocked ESN, that you can flash another carriers ROM onto it and activate it with them. I think Cricket Wireless or Boost Mobile was mentioned, but I can't remember.
Here in Canada, Bell still runs CDMA but they will NOT allow a non-Bell CDMA phone to be connected to their network, under any circumstances. HSPA/GSM they will though.
It I could flash the ROM to a carrier other than Sprint, that might be a good idea. That way the thing can potentially have some value as a phone too, and maybe serve me as a roaming device when I travel to the US. Or, would just installing one of the third party ROM's allow it to be activated on another carrier?
I'm really not familliar with the way the US carriers operate.

[Q] Is my phone bricked???

Okay, I bought a used MT4GS from a fairly reputable phone reseller called CPR (cell phone repair.) I bought it back in March or April of this year. I immediately rooted and installed a custom rom and CWM. A few months ago I upgraded my rom to CM9 and about a month ago I began having problems. The isses were minor at first, the hardware buttons on the outside of the phone would stop working but I could open the phone and use the ones on the keyboard. Then in the past two weeks all of the buttons would stop working. I thought it was a hardware problem so today I dropped it off at CPR and they took it apart and tested all of the buttons. According to them all the buttons tested out fine. So I have a phone that the only thing that works is the touch screen. Here is the odd thing. If I hold the volume down while booting I get the fastboot menu and can navigate it using the volume keys. If I go into recovery mode none of the buttons work same as in the phone. So either this is a software problem or a systemboard problem. Because my power and volume buttons work on the recovery menu I'm inclined to believe it's a software problem but I'm a little lost on how to fix it. I just tried to boot the phone again and it's now stuck on the boot animation and does nothing. Please help!!!

I was curious if you tried a reinstall before your keys went completely berserk...but no matter now. Sometimes a person will get a bad download though and you can get some WEIRD results from them.
Anyway....this is how I answered on the CM9 Thread if you hadn't seen it......
I've never heard of a ROM brickng a phone especially gradually but I suppose anything is possible. If what you're wanting to do is to return to stock & just kinda "start over" then just go to This Thread and scroll down to the files labeled as "Return to Stock" & download the correct file according to your installed software. Then you can just place it in the root directory of your SD card and reboot into Hboot. PG59IMG files are designed to run from your bootloader and you just answer the few questions it asks as it does.

WeekendsR2Short said:
I was curious if you tried a reinstall before your keys went completely berserk...but no matter now. Sometimes a person will get a bad download though and you can get some WEIRD results from them.
Anyway....this is how I answered on the CM9 Thread if you hadn't seen it......
I've never heard of a ROM brickng a phone especially gradually but I suppose anything is possible. If what you're wanting to do is to return to stock & just kinda "start over" then just go to This Thread and scroll down to the files labeled as "Return to Stock" & download the correct file according to your installed software. Then you can just place it in the root directory of your SD card and reboot into Hboot. PG59IMG files are designed to run from your bootloader and you just answer the few questions it asks as it does.
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Yeah I actually did that last night. Got to watch the intro animation from HTC/T-Mobile etc. Still no buttons. I'm guessing that the system board has a bad chip since the buttons tested out okay. That is more consistent with the gradual failure than a software bug. Now if there were a rom made for a phone without buttons then I'd be in good shape. Luckily I found an identical phone on Craigslist for $85 which I feel is reasonable for a discontinued phone. Does anybody have recommendations on QWERTY Android phones for T-Mobile that are better than the MT4GS?

Someone mentioned that Samsung is coming out with one soon but I can't remember the name for squat.

If it's for T-Mobile then I suggest the Samsung Relay 4G. Else better wait for Samsung Stratosphere 2 fior Verizon if you might consider changing networks for the sake of a better phone.

THAAAAT'S the one! Samsung Relay 4G. Thank you kind sir!:good:

Samsung took over for HTC, who took over for crApple.

blackknightavalon said:
Samsung took over for HTC, who took over for crApple.
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Samsung also.

First off let me say I'm sorry about the death of your MT4GS - mine died over a month ago and I'm still in mourning. However, the Relay is a nice little device. I don't want to be accused of attempting to recruit people again, but at the risk of saying so it is an upgrade from the HTC product in MOST ways - some people don't like the screen as much and the camera is definitely inferior. However, it's a nice device. I'm happy with it honestly. TouchWIZ takes some getting used to but since HTC didn't give us ICS, even ICSense... and Samsung has ICS on here with JB to come... I'm satisfied. If you are still curious we have a thread in the G2/Desire forum that we are using until XDA gives us a dedicated forum.
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