Just rooted my girlfriend replacement Shift, what's the most up-to-date ROM, that doesn't require a DATA WIPE?
mrbsb said:
Just rooted my girlfriend replacement Shift, what's the most up-to-date ROM, that doesn't require a DATA WIPE?
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They are all going to require, or suggest a " DATA Wipe. It will ensure a better flash.
If you're rooted just backup with titanium or similar then you can restore your data after flashing
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larry0987 said:
If you're rooted just backup with titanium or similar then you can restore your data after flashing
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That's a really not a good idea, it can cause issues. Especially if it's system data. Game data, some third party apps, maybe even messages can usually be restored without issue. But system data IMO most times leads to issues.
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MikROMs Since 3/13/11
Sorry, I assume nobody would restore system data. I only use it for apps and game data like XDA or angry birds
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larry0987 said:
Sorry, I assume nobody would restore system data. I only use it for apps and game data like XDA or angry birds
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I think we had about a 6 week span of time when people was doing nothing more than resotring system data from like aosp/Sense or vice versa....that was a headache.
There are a few games I restore data from. But its always Sense/Sense or aosp/aosp:
Angry Brids
Contract Killer
Front Line Commando
Drag Racing and so on.
*APPS*
Tapatalk
XDA Premium
And maybe a couple others
*Some Shifters use Google Voice for SMS because you don't have to worry, all them texts are on google.com/voice. But there are certain ways to set that up so you don't get duplicate texts, or the goofy 1009 text for voicemails.
The reason why all of the roms posted here call for a system wipe is because they are all optimized in their own way, some have opted apps, some roms are 100% rebuilt from ground up starting with optimization. Some ROMS are ports from a different device, or the Android flavor is different all together, which means framework has changed. So a full system wipe isn't always a bad thing, when you look at what can be gained from what little bits of data lost
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My process for a new ROM is use TB to backup the apps I downloaded from market.
Boot to recovery
Nand backup
Format system
Format SD-EXT ( not the SD card )
Format cache
Format data
And wipe dalvik cache
Flash ROM
Reboot
Wait 10 minutes then dive right in
All that leads to 100% flawless installs every time
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strapped365 said:
I think we had about a 6 week span of time when people was doing nothing more than resotring system data from like aosp/Sense or vice versa....that was a headache.
There are a few games I restore data from. But its always Sense/Sense or aosp/aosp:
Angry Brids
Contract Killer
Front Line Commando
Drag Racing and so on.
*APPS*
Tapatalk
XDA Premium
And maybe a couple others
*Some Shifters use Google Voice for SMS because you don't have to worry, all them texts are on google.com/voice. But there are certain ways to set that up so you don't get duplicate texts, or the goofy 1009 text for voicemails.
The reason why all of the roms posted here call for a system wipe is because they are all optimized in their own way, some have opted apps, some roms are 100% rebuilt from ground up starting with optimization. Some ROMS are ports from a different device, or the Android flavor is different all together, which means framework has changed. So a full system wipe isn't always a bad thing, when you look at what can be gained from what little bits of data lost
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How I do it:
Titanium backup batch - all user apps + data
Uncheck the apps I don't really use (this is when I get rid of stuff I don't really need)
Nandroid
Userdata Wipe
format /system
Install rom
Install TiB and batch restore all missing apps+data.
Done Sense/Sense, Aosp/Sense and all variants, and rarely have problems. Just be careful going from GB to ICS, sometimes it can be a little balky.
EDIT: You can't go wrong with a Mik rom.
And, FWIW, I use gvoice.
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whats the best way to backup apps setting and Saved games ? for example angry birds how to back the save game up ? ...thanks
I was going to start my own topic but its pretty much just a more detailed version of this question so I'll try here first
I've heard of a number of backup utilities but last time I used a backup(couldn't use titanium at the time because I wasn't rooted) it simply saved the app info then linked me to market to redownload after I wiped my phone
This presents two problems the first being that user data isn't saved and second what happens for apps that are no longer available on the market?
My question is what the best way to save user data and apps, and people rarely mention the actual restore process, which method(if any) will store the data on my phone/sd card so i can simply restore them even if not on the market
And at very least when you back up a rom before wiping if the app you used to save your data doesn't work, does that rom backup save all settings, meaning it would be like I never wiped?
I've tried researching but thought i understood before I wiped and rooted last time and realized my user data wasn't saved and had to hunt down apks that were no longer on the market(i am rooted now)
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anyone ?....
Now that people have had the device for a few days, I was hoping their to headstart could help potential switchers and as the SR doesn't have it's own forum yet so I'm asking here.
Newbie alert!!!!
I am wondering how easy it will be to move from the Gs2 to the skyrocket? Basically any recommended ways of moving my apps, texts, pictures, etc to the SdCARD and back from the SdCard to the new phone? Contacts are synced with Google Contacts so no problems there, my main concern is with paid apps, I'd rather not pay for them again.
Can I back up apps via TiBU and restore them on the Skyrocket? Or can I just reinstall them on the new phone?
End of Newbie question!!!!
Paid apps are in your google account as well, you will be able to reinstall all your paid apps through the market (without repaying) by just signing in to your same google account.
The only thing you need to backup is your pictures/music.
Here's what I did to migrate to my Skyrocket from my Captivate:
*Duh Alert* Have your original phone rooted and Titanium Pro installed.
Original Phone
1. Backup APK & Data with Titanium.
2. Locate where backup directory is on your phone. Mine was \sdcard\TitaniumBackup
3. Mount original phone and copy backup directory to your computer.
New Hotness
1. Root that bad boy. Search the site, its here.
2. Install Titanium Pro from market.
3. Back up 1 app, pick something silly. That will create the backup directory.
4. Mount the new hotness and copy your saved directory from your computer to the Skyrocket.
5. Restore apps. I did one at a time cuz I didn't want everything installed on the new phone.
95% of the apps and data restored properly.
Simplistic, yes....but it works. Go forth and multiply.
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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If your just trying to backup like game saves then sometimes. A lot of times that data can be backed up by just mounting your sdcard to your computer and copying the files. Some games do save the data in funny locations so you do need (easier) to use something like Titanium, but you are always better off starting from as scratch as possible to avoid issues later.
Moving an app to save you from entering your login info for example, is just a bad idea. Most apps have no real data to backup, simple 2 second settings etc....
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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TiBu works great, usually, for restoring NON-System apps and their data.
Avoid restoring system apps/data.
Also, if you do happen to run into a problem with a particular restored app, all you need to do is uninstall/reinstall it and then use TiBu to restore the "data only" for that app.
This has always worked for me.
y?
Its basically the same phone, screen tiny bit bigger and it edges r round, and the. 3 faster CPU is not noticeable, and if u don't live in the handful of citys that have lte network what's the point by the time LTE gets fully activated skyrocket will be old phone something way better out, now if u didn't have the gs2 already if say hell ya but since u do wasted money IMO
Hello,
Here is my no longer new wipe tool, inspired by the G2x Scrubber.
The Nullifier.
This uses a special command in combination with a special file to overwrite the internal partitions with 0's, hence "Null" for 0 and "-ifier" for the fact that it does the action of the root word to something else. It also formats *all* the partitions afterward and *new* checks for, and repairs any errors on them.
6 Oct: This tool is now depreciated and succeded by the G2x AIO wipe tool.
New 2 August:
Updated to 3.1, now fully customizeable by partition. Still haven't gotten around to making status bars, it's going to take a little bit to work out the best implementation.
New 28 July: I've been working on wrapping my head around the infamous AROMA installer and have at least made some progress in understanding it. As alot of people in the past had wanted to have the option to choose which to wipe, and how many times. We're not there yet. Yet. I just wanted to give those interested something new to chew on while I work out how to break it down function by function. Currently I have it made so that you have one installer which allows you to choose between a single and dual wipe.
New 26 March: The Cache Nullifier I edited the script down to just do a single pass Nullification then format and error check. This will work on the G2x, O2x and su660.
26 April update: Changed the commands so that it writes ext4 file system instead of ext3 when it formats and created an error check zip, mostly just because it could prove to be useful. I tried a couple of different sign programs to sign these properly but in testing signature verification fails still.
Minor update 1 March: swapped out the binaries on the 2.0.6 releases so they're the same as the older versions, added an ext4 cache nullifier, and fixed the code on the dual-wipe as I was sober when that one was revised as it had errors which would prevent it from running.
Some brief need to knows:
1. This is a little lengthy process so please bear with it. The longest wipe is on /data which will take about 7 minutes. Obviously, make sure you have plenty of battery life before running it or are charging.
2. You *must not* power off your phone without first installing a new ROM or restoring a nandroid after you use this. See post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23998091&postcount=125
3. I will provide help, support, etc., but I am not, nor is anyone else involved with this, responsible for any problems you may have in the extremely unlikely event that you do.
old links:
Depreciated
Direct link to 3.1:
Depreciated
Thanks to da-pharoah for being my main beta tester who stuck with me all the way, even after bricking his phone and getting the progress bar pinned down as best as possible.
Additional thanks to anyone who contributed (you know who you are).
Nullifier Q and A:
Q: Will this harm my phone in any way or brick it?
A: No, the incident with Pharaoh's phone was an unexpected problem brought about from the source-file I was using at the time causing CWM and Android to think the phone was encrypted. I no longer use that source-file.
Q: Why not just format everything?
A: Because a format isn't intended to erase data, though, to a degree, does so. This script is intended to and will wipe out the data and leave a clean set of partitions for a ROM to be installed to.
Q: (Submitted by Cargohook) Would it be idiotic or fruitless to run this and then restore a nandroid backup? I mean, would that defeat the purpose?
A: I highly doubt it would be a waste of your time. On an educated hunch, when you restore a nandroid all CWM does is format the partitions then load the data from the nandroid to those partitions; back to square 1 with old data being left behind.
Q: Why don't I get a message about formatting /boot?
A: Because it doesn't format /boot. Why? In testing I found that it doesn't need it. It's all a matter of how Android uses boot.img and how it's copied.
Q: Does this wipe internal or external SD? (added because it keeps getting asked)
A: In a word, no.
Q: Will using this cause nand-failure or make my phone unusable if used too much?
A: In my opinion, no. In other's, yes. By my experience I have never encountered such a problem. To give you a better answer, please see Overground's post on that subject here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25257903&postcount=327
(Thanks for the objective opinion overground)
(More to come as need be)
Reserved just in case. (I knew there was a reason for me reserving this)
Changelog for 3.1:
Now you can select one, two or no wipes per partition, a long-requested feature.
Changelog for 3.0.5:
1. Obviously this is now AROMA based.
2. The scripting for the progress bar is different due to AROMA, so for now we have no status bar progress. I'm waiting to see if someone can explain what Amarullz means in his explanation since I can't make heads or tails of it. Otherwise all the old functionality is the exact same.
Changelog: (old)
1. Added progress bar.
It's not 100% accurate, but sadly it's impossible to get it 100%, even after tons of testing.
2. Fixed format issue with /cache.
Thanks Overground for showing us a better format command to use
and to my tester/protogee Pharoah, who added the unmount command which made CWM less pissed at me.
3. Added a model check just in case someone doesn't know what they're getting ahold of and turn their phone's internals into something resembeling Chernobyl's Reactor Number Four.
4. Removed unneeded mount command in dual wipe script which was causing problems.
Plans for the future:
Create a menu system so that the user has a choice of what to wipe, and single vs dual wipes, or no wipe at all.
This is coming along well, I decided to keep it more straight-forward versus making a system of menus, so once it's thoroughly tested it'll be released
Hopefully a time-based progress bar is still possible, if not I guess it's time to find someone who likes math to figure out the percentage of each operation.
Cool, will try in a second.
How long am I looking at here?
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Cool, will try in a second.
How long am I looking at here?
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Wow deja vu!
But maybe like 12-14 minutes. Didn't time exactly but that's a good estimate..
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4. I will provide help, support, etc., but I, nor anyone else involved with this, is responsible for any problems you may have in the extremely unlikely event that you do.
(you know who you are).
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You need to change that so that it says "I am not, nor is anyone else involved in this, responsible for any problems....etc."
The way it's worded right now makes it look like you're claiming responsibility, which could get ugly.
No, it'll be a little longer than that since it wipes each partition twice. The big one is /data since it's 1.5GB.
@IRASadpanda: I guess I should make it a little simpler.
Волк said:
No, it'll be a little longer than that since it wipes each partition twice. The big one is /data since it's 1.5GB.
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Thanks for the new tool I have to wipe now!
and thats why he is a dev on team hellfire
i know a regular "format" of a nand flash just breaks the links to the data stored in the cells and doesn't actually overwrite the data, but won't doing this often wear out the flash card
Why does the data wipe take 7 min?
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Why does the data wipe take 7 min?
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Because it's actually making sure everything is wiped.
Worked like a freaking charm! Thanks! Start it... let it do its thing, right at the "oh ****, something is wrong" moment it will move on... let it work...
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Yea, the time I mentioned is actually the time. I got the time straight from CWM's log.
dang just when i got my phone all setup with HFS 1.4, could have used this a few days ago
nice work man!!! downloading now!!
Thanks for you're hard work!
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Congratulations!
Nice job Volk, glad to see all your hard work pay off. Keep up the good work
Let it run and it cleaned it all up running way faster you rock!!!!!!"
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Thanks! Also, thank da-pharaoh as well, he did most of the testing on it once my initial tests were done, and even helped with those.
Question: Would it be idiotic or fruitless to run this and then restore a nandroid backup? I mean, would that defeat the purpose?
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I'm fairly new to Ti and have a question. I'd like to backup my downloaded apps and user data like text messages and email settings. I don't need much more than that. I saw a tutorial that said to backup apps, user and system data. That doesn't seem right if I'm using a custom ROM.
What do you guys recommend?
t0adman said:
I'm fairly new to Ti and have a question. I'd like to backup my downloaded apps and user data like text messages and email settings. I don't need much more than that. I saw a tutorial that said to backup apps, user and system data. That doesn't seem right if I'm using a custom ROM.
What do you guys recommend?
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With titanium backup, you can backup all your apps and the data and then when you go to a different rom or newer build tell it to rebackup only app s that have been updated or contain new data. Text messages can be backed up in it as well and its super simple to backup and restore them (depending on how many messages you, more messages longer it takes). As far as email settings ive never done that so i can't comment on that part.
The reason for this is that if you flash a new rom and something goes wrong you can still have that data to just simply restore. The reason i use titanium backup is because its a thousand times faster to restore all your apps with that then redownload them all.
Word of advise, NEVER restore system data, that could potentially cause issues in the future, restoring apps and app data for games and such should be fine though
But as far as nightlies go, a full wipe shouldn't be required everytime a new one comes out, unless stated otherwise, or for myself i don't like to flash more than 3 or 4 nightlies on top of eachother so by the 4th or 5th one i do a fresh install, in which i backup apps and messages and restore them.
I hope that helps you understand a little better
Yes, definitely! Thank you. I'm seeing the option to backup all user apps, all system data, a combo of both, and several other scenarios. Last time I backed up just user apps and when I restored them I lost all my text messages. Is there a setting I need to select?
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Yes, definitely! Thank you. I'm seeing the option to backup all user apps, all system data, a combo of both, and several other scenarios. Last time I backed up just user apps and when I restored them I lost all my text messages. Is there a setting I need to select?
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i can't remember if you need the pro version or not but for text messages and call logs, when you first enter the app hit the menu button and it should be under "backup data to xml" you'll click that and then choose what data you want to backup. From there you can either backup to your sd card, or i believe dropbox/google drive, but i always put it on the sdcard since its not a very big file
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i can't remember if you need the pro version or not but for text messages and call logs, when you first enter the app hit the menu button and it should be under "backup data to xml" you'll click that and then choose what data you want to backup. From there you can either backup to your sd card, or i believe dropbox/google drive, but i always put it on the sdcard since its not a very big file
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nonono, there's an easier way to do what he wants.
@ OP, choose the option to backup all user apps... run it... there's one backup. Then, go into backup system apps, de-select all, then scroll through and find Call Log and Messages and check those... run the backup of those two items. Then you'll have all your user apps + texts and call logs.
Now you can do a factory wipe, run TiBu and restore ALL backups that you have (you only have user apps and the two items from system) and you will have everything except various system settings back as they were.
You can use filters to make it even easier. Make a new filter, only add the apps you want backed up (downloaded apps and the call log). Then all you have to do is backup and restore one list.
You can get fancy with it too. I have 3 filters. One for user apps I won't need to restore data to, one for use apps I want to be able to restore data to, and one for bloat that always gets bulk uninstalled immediately (I also use this list to test if system apps are removable by backing them up, uninstalling them, then if no problems arise I delete the back up). When ever I do a full wipe I just restore the first list (apps only), restore the second list (apps + data), and bulk uninstall everything on the third list. Takes all of 5 minutes and it's like I never wiped at all.
That said, I just dirty flash nightlies. Until I have a problem, there's no reason to do a full wipe.
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You can use filters to make it even easier. Make a new filter, only add the apps you want backed up (downloaded apps and the call log). Then all you have to do is backup and restore one list.
You can get fancy with it too. I have 3 filters. One for user apps I won't need to restore data to, one for use apps I want to be able to restore data to, and one for bloat that always gets bulk uninstalled immediately (I also use this list to test if system apps are removable by backing them up, uninstalling them, then if no problems arise I delete the back up). When ever I do a full wipe I just restore the first list (apps only), restore the second list (apps + data), and bulk uninstall everything on the third list. Takes all of 5 minutes and it's like I never wiped at all.
That said, I just dirty flash nightlies. Until I have a problem, there's no reason to do a full wipe.
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Oh Yeh, I forgot about the filters, I haven't messed with them much at all.
Go backup is also quite good as an alternative. Less customization but very simple to use
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Is there a way to back up everything before a wipe that restores well? The ones i've tried miss system settings and all app settings have to be reset. Titanium Backup was awesome but requires root., but something like that is what I'm after
tomplatz said:
Is there a way to back up everything before a wipe that restores well? The ones i've tried miss system settings and all app settings have to be reset. Titanium Backup was awesome but requires root., but something like that is what I'm after
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This is a biggest issue Google hasn't provided a solution for. You can't backup an android phone unless you root... [emoji1418]
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Any decent apps anyone has found? I know TB level backup not possible
System settings and all app settings backup is hard. Usually, Samsung Kies, mobile data manager software, etc just help us back up data like contacts, text messages, photos, videos, music, apps, etc. Of course, there is no need to root Samsung phone before using them.
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Is there a way to back up everything before a wipe that restores well? The ones i've tried miss system settings and all app settings have to be reset. Titanium Backup was awesome but requires root., but something like that is what I'm after
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Keep in mind once you unlock bootloader then KNOX will be permantly disabled and apps like samsung pay, samsung pass, encryption and some more will no longer work after this and even if you re-lock bootloader the KNOX will still be unavailable since it's so called safety thing in chip has ben cut so it becomes permanently hardware disabled.
So think before doing it, if you plan to use samsung pay and pass and such later on then avoid unlocking the bootloader.
Also warranty will be voided too.
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tomplatz said:
Is there a way to back up everything before a wipe that restores well? The ones i've tried miss system settings and all app settings have to be reset. Titanium Backup was awesome but requires root., but something like that is what I'm after
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The best you can do is use the SD card as your data drive. All mission critical data goes on it.
Therefore no PC or internet connection is needed for a full restore. No wasted time transferring data from the PC or cloud.
All critical data, photos, vids, music, documents, settings backups for apks that let you, contacts and copies of all loaded apks and updates.
I use ApkExport to make copies of all my apks and system updates so after a reload I don't need Playstore and know exactly what to load, fast.
Get at least a .5 tb card so all the data used by the phone can easily fit plus 100 gb headroom.
I pretty much hit the ground running and a reload is 99% complete in about 5 hours with no loss of critical data.
Not copying settings for some apps and especially system settings is a better plan as any bad settings don't get carbon copied. Manual set up also keeps you in aware of what does what. Plus you will find and learn new tricks like this.
I reload about every 6 months to take full advantage of the new optimizations I incorporated since the last reload. Invariably you play with trash apps trying to find the good ones and the poorly written ones can leave a mess behind. It's simply impossible to weed out all the trash and subtle misconfigurations that happen over time.
A reload takes out the trash.
Each reload should get you a couple steps closer to device perfection.
Once you have a fast, stable platform be very cautious of any firmware or OS updates as it only takes one to wreck everything. Many times an "upgrade" turns into an ugly downgrade.
Many app updates are useless or wreck the the app as well.
No reason to fix something that ain't broke... once optimized leave it be.
Find something else to play with.
Just install Samsung Smart switch on your phone. And back up to the SD CARD.
You'll still need to setup individual apps but you will keep system settings.
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Just install Samsung Smart switch on your phone. And back up to the SD CARD.
You'll still need to setup individual apps but you will keep system settings.
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Thank you.
I forgot about this app.
Last time I used it transfering from a S4 to the 10+ it was a terror. However it should do much better on the same model/OS.
16 gb took 10 minutes to backup to a fast card plus you can see and edit its saved files.
The icon layout will be lost if it saves the theme/icon pack I will wuv it to death...
It should save some time... if not I'll reset again:laugh:
The legendary Tom Platz. Now that's a blast from my past lol
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The legendary Tom Platz. Now that's a blast from my past lol
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I have big legs too. Seemed to fit.
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I have big legs too. Seemed to fit.
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I'll take your word for it. No need for pics. ?