Hey guys,
I'm looking up for a new phone to buy and after a while digging into I got caught undecided between a Nexus S and an Omnia W. One is Android, other Windows Phone. I had a Galaxy 5 before, using unofficial Cyanogemod 7, and got a little disappointed with Android Gingerbread. Don't know now with ICS. Is it really better? But what I like about Android is the ability to install ROM's and being able to have the newest updates. On the other hand, there's the WP, which I had an oportunity to try for a few minutes, and liked at first, the system is really smooth, fast... Also, the Omnia W has a great battery life. But I just don't know about future updates for the Omnia... Also, I'd like to know about the battery life of Nexus S, someone who has one, could you tell me?
I'd apreciate a lot if someone could help me. Sorry about my english, ha.
Thank's in advanced.
what is the dissappoint things about GB?
I don't understand why people even like winmo7, android is fast moving and more user flexible
I would suggest grabbing either
-Galaxy S (international I9000), Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus
ICS is pretty good but if you don't like GB it is most likely the launcher that is the problem, try using a different launcher until you are happy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_Launchers
I personally like ICS & ADW
Murmur95 said:
I don't understand why people even like winmo7, android is fast moving and more user flexible
I would suggest grabbing either
-Galaxy S (international I9000), Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus
ICS is pretty good but if you don't like GB it is most likely the launcher that is the problem, try using a different launcher until you are happy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_Launchers
I personally like ICS & ADW
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Honestly, WP 7 seems to be a great platform. Also is Android. And the comment about the Launch, it wasn't it (at least I guess), I used to change between them. The thing was, I used to get a lot force close and this stuff.
Thanks for the reply.
considering WP7 is quite a new contender compared to droid, sooner or later both have their own adv and disadv. As murmur95 stated, Android tends to move faster because of its open source licensing (but not saying other than open source, the rests are bad things, they are good also, but i don't know their advs and disadvs).
If launcher forces close, I think have some issues with compatibility with the ROM, so you can either reflash the ROM and see if it works. ICS is essentially a new version of GB with some modification here and there, and yes. gives more feature, more stability, more speed, more battery saving etc2..so ICS is a very nice addition. That aside, you can simply watch videos, or read people's feedback of both WP or Android, but if you ask me, I favor Android better ^^V
I have tried W7 android and IOS believe me android is the best.
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Buy the Nexus, is better than the other
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Go ahead and buy one of Google's golden cages...
If you're such a lover of Android why not the latest MOTOROLA DROID which
at least is reasonably independent from Google gimmicks.
With any other device you'll have to ask for permission to, subscribe a compulsory
gmail account, allow google interfering with sundry notifications --
interrupting whatever activitties you may be on the edge of performing, etc.
Samsung machines while undeniably well designed and produced are little
more than advertising enforcers for Google -- see if you can easily get rid of
applications that fulfil your restricting space of internal memory, such as research,
google talk, etc. etc -- unless you're a fan of the said.
I'm inviting you to take notice of a two-posts query and shout for help concerning
one of those marvellous pieces-of-work:«Guidance to Samsung Galaxy Gio (S5660)??»,
and provide me your feed-back abou my issues therein...
Good grief! And i thought that the major manipulative OS was Windows -- I
even changed to linux (ZORIN 5,2 if you care to know) -- and then i went and
spoiled my own move and bought a Galaxy Gio...
I'm sorry if i sound too boring to you (and all).
Greetings and better luck than i had.
N'Rique
Why would you not consider the Galaxy Nexus, the successor to the Nexus S?
I think if that if you like the idea of installing custom roms then going for the nexus s would be a good shout. I believe that Google have been a bit slow rolling out ICS to it officially but this would give you the perfect opportunity to flash the latest versions of it yourself
First, thanks to all for replying.
About the force closes it wasn't only about the Launcher, was about lot of apps. The Galaxy Nexus is twice the price of Nexus S here, so...
What about Nexus S battery life? Has anyone tried this phone?
Thanks.
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Hi dear,
I'm going to get Galaxy S or Nexus S next week for myself and my gf(my gf's birthday is coming so I'm gonna sell my white iphone 4...)
Btw, I'm on the middle of the road.
I enjoy the internet browsing with my phone and watch youtube quite often. Also, I do video chat with my parent via skype.
But I saw on Nexus S the internet browsing is not as smooth as on galaxy s.
How is the performance on both devices?
and I read that galaxy s also have got 2.3.4 so now skype is working with video call. That is, Nexus S is not only the device can do video call via skype.
Please give me an advice guys! hope i'll hear many advice from here
First of all, I got to say that I only have the Nexus S, and not the Galaxy S, just like most of the people on this forum. That's why my opinion may be biased.
From what I've heard, the Nexus S is certainly smoother than the Galaxy S, mainly because there is no Touchwiz. The internet browsing on the Nexus S is indeed not perfect (on the standard browser that is), but I believe that's a problem of most of the Android devices. Tip: download a new browser from the market. Opera and Miren Browser are one of the fastest.
If you are going to use Google Services like Youtube much, then I recommend the Nexus S, since you'll be sure to get updates from Google for a long time.
As for Skype, I don't see a reason why it would work better on the Nexus S than on the Galaxy S, or the other way around. I wouldn't use Skype anyway, the application is far from perfect (your battery will drain like there's no tomorrow, although there are certain apps that prevent that).
In my eyes, the Nexus S is basically a better Galaxy S. Faster, slicker design and faster updates. Oh, one thing that may be important to you: the Nexus S doesn't have FM radio. The Galaxy S does. You'll have to rely on internet radio on the Nexus S.
I hope I wasn't too biased!
Androyed said:
First of all, I got to say that I only have the Nexus S, and not the Galaxy S, just like most of the people on this forum. That's why my opinion may be biased.
From what I've heard, the Nexus S is certainly smoother than the Galaxy S, mainly because there is no Touchwiz. The internet browsing on the Nexus S is indeed not perfect (on the standard browser that is), but I believe that's a problem of most of the Android devices. Tip: download a new browser from the market. Opera and Miren Browser are one of the fastest.
If you are going to use Google Services like Youtube much, then I recommend the Nexus S, since you'll be sure to get updates from Google for a long time.
As for Skype, I don't see a reason why it would work better on the Nexus S than on the Galaxy S, or the other way around. I wouldn't use Skype anyway, the application is far from perfect (your battery will drain like there's no tomorrow, although there are certain apps that prevent that).
In my eyes, the Nexus S is basically a better Galaxy S. Faster, slicker design and faster updates. Oh, one thing that may be important to you: the Nexus S doesn't have FM radio. The Galaxy S does. You'll have to rely on internet radio on the Nexus S.
I hope I wasn't too biased!
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no no no you are not biased at all. Very objective
hm.. that's one thing I've concerned.. update directly from Google as it's the reference phone! alright. I'll think about it again.
But how is the opera web browser? is it working well? I want to see how smooth it is!
jorkobe23 said:
no no no you are not biased at all. Very objective
hm.. that's one thing I've concerned.. update directly from Google as it's the reference phone! alright. I'll think about it again.
But how is the opera web browser? is it working well? I want to see how smooth it is!
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The opera web browser adds lots of functionality (like tabs, still can't believe the stock browser doesn't have that) and has (sort of) proven to be the fastest.
One more thing in favor of the Nexus S: it's easier to root and install custom ROMs, which will make it even faster. I don't know if you are interested in that, but since you already are on XDA, I figured that might be important to you.
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The opera web browser adds lots of functionality (like tabs, still can't believe the stock browser doesn't have that) and has (sort of) proven to be the fastest.
One more thing in favor of the Nexus S: it's easier to root and install custom ROMs, which will make it even faster. I don't know if you are interested in that, but since you already are on XDA, I figured that might be important to you.
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Oh, cool. Yeah I'd like to try some custom roms.
But one problem is when I asked my gf which one looks better, she said galaxy s
I think she likes more iphone-like a phone.
jorkobe23 said:
Oh, cool. Yeah I'd like to try some custom roms.
But one problem is when I asked my gf which one looks better, she said galaxy s
I think she likes more iphone-like a phone.
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Time to get a new girl friend
you probably should take a nexus to you and a galaxy to your girlfriend. =o)
in my opinion, nexus is best than galaxy, except for browser, stock browser in nexus is really bad (some web pages are impossible to use), specially when you use opera browser and see how smooth it can be (that's the point you say 'wtf, what's wrong with stock one?')
I just happen to have both on my desk. The Samsung Galaxy S is my personal Phone and the Nexus S is my development Phone (I got a Milestone and a Galaxy Tab too).
What I like about Galaxy S:
Slightly thinner than Nexus S. Not much but I notice it.
MicroSD card slot. Missing in Nexus S
FM Radio.
Touchwiz notification area icons. IMHO a better place than a widget to quick access to power controls (and besides it has the very useful orientation locking button not present in default power controls widget).
Hardware home button. More comfortable to get screen back on rather than using power button all the time (the only choice on Nexus S).
What I like about Nexus S:
NFC. Interesting in my case for work but not very useful at present due to lack of support/information (need card emulation mode)
Development. You always get up-to-date versions of Android first (from Google) and development is less hassle than on other phones (rom building/flashing directly supported with standard Google tools). No mess with bootloaders, propietary flashing programs (Odin for Galaxy S) and no need to go with unofficial sources such as Cyanogen (Samsung S not yet supported, it will be from next version 7.1).
Camera flash. I miss it sometimes on my Galaxy S.
My personal choice. For everyday use I prefer my Galaxy S. For pure development or just to be always up-to-date Nexus S.
Note: Some people are discussing about software. You must take into consideration that hardware is almost the same in both models. I have not noticed noticeable performance differences. Nonetheless I have not used the Nexus S very much yet. I do have experienced performance improvements on my Galaxy S upgrading to new firmwares. Currently I have installed "F1 Series V6" which is a little modification over stock 2.3.4 GB Samsung firmware. It works great and my Quadrant score is around 2000. My advice is software can be changed/improved after you purchase your phone. Hardware can't. So choosing a phone based on my XXXX app run a little bit smother on this phone with firmware YYYY is not a wise decision, because those measurements are not very accurate and can vary over time. Both phones have virtually the same hardware, so they should more or less run the applications with practically no difference in performance.
Just my 2 cents.
m0rtadelo said:
Some people are discussing about software. You must take into consideration that hardware is almost the same in both models. I have not noticed noticeable performance differences. Nonetheless I have not used the Nexus S very much yet. I do have experienced performance improvements on my Galaxy S upgrading to new firmwares. Currently I have installed "F1 Series V6" which is a little modification over stock 2.3.4 GB Samsung firmware. It works great and my Quadrant score is around 2000. My advice is software can be changed/improved after you purchase your phone. Hardware can't. So choosing a phone based on my XXXX app run a little bit smother on this phone with firmware YYYY is not a wise decision, because those measurements are not very accurate and can vary over time. Both phones have virtually the same hardware, so they should more or less run the applications with practically no difference in performance.
Just my 2 cents.
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that's quite oposite from what i think about it, today i make my decisions looking for software, it could make a crappy phone works nice and a 'dream' phone a hell (like atrix, to me), sure you can always tweak to get it better and when everything is great, Google releases a new android and the cycle starts again: new roms, new kernels and "when, where, why" start to pop in general forum. It's just not fun anymore (for me).
The thing is: I flashed all roms and all kernels from dev section in my nexus and couldn't find anything even close to stock setup. Nexus stock is just solid (despite lack of some good features).
i think chasing hard specs is not a wise decision anymore (besides, it's a endless chase), if you need a sd card slot, or fm radio, or HD camera, you should go with sgs. if you don't care about it and want a device that just works as soon as you get it out of the box, so... =o)
to resume, that is exactly what i think: http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/30/coming-nexus-s/
sorry for my engrish! =o)
The only reason why browsing on the Galaxy S is smoother is because it uses hardware acceleration. And another browser to worth mentioning in that list would be Dolphin Browser HD. It's a very smooth browser.
I came from a Samsung Vibrant (Galaxy S) to a Nexus S for its developmental purposes. Some may argue that there are not many ROMs. But all in honesty, the ROMs coming out to the Galaxy S are mainly all based on TouchWiz. They're all the same ROM behind the hood and just appear different. Now there is CM7, so things might of changed now. But regardless, to install CM7.. you'd have to go through a long process of changing its partition type from RFS to ext4.
I still don't look back at the Galaxy S. The only feature I can primarily say that I miss are the codecs, but with DICE Player. That filled the missing part so now I'm able to watch 720p without any lag.
But yeah, +1 on Google updates. When Ice Cream Sandwich is announced later this year, the Nexus S will be one of the first phones to get it.
Galaxy S? Good luck. Samsung will be busy updating their current flagship phone, Galaxy S2. And if you're in the U.S. it'll take even longer because it'll have to go through approval with the carrier and addition of their bloat blah blah blah. the list goes on.
Update coming from Google?
Google makes update -> OTA
Update coming from Samsung in the U.S.?
Samsung makes updates -> Goes through approval process with carrier -> OTA
And with the carriers, usually multiple revisions have to satisfy the carrier before its approved.
Nexus S hands down.
I also say the nexus s. I own both galaxy s and nexus s. My vibrant is decent but the nexus s blows it out the water. U.S. phones still don't have gingerbread either and froyo on the galaxy s looks retarded. It really does, the nexus s software looks slick and sexy. The browser lag is over blown. It's not that bad at.
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I own a Captivate and just bought a Nexus S today and I will give it to the NS.
Looks better, feels better, smoother and as retarded as it sounds, you feel better mentally. This is all Google and Google only. No workarounds, fixes, patches or anything to make this phone run as it should.
I could go on forever to discuss the pros (and also some cons) but they are redundant and have been discussed to death. It comes down to the Nexus S being a more refined and polished version of the Galaxy S.
dunkerya said:
The browser lag is over blown. It's not that bad at.
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So, make a test for me: go to http://www.gizmodo.com.br/conteudo/...orkut-continua-vivo-e-aparentemente-saudavel/
Wait it loads, and roll to end of the page... does it work fine for you?
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Galaxy S has FM and comes with Swype (though you can get this thru beta program on NS)
Nexus S screen looked much better after the 2.3.3 update, now galaxy S screens look too blueish for me.
Both of them have voodoo sound support, so its all good!
Thanks guys!
I just wanna know which one is better between amoled or super lcd.
I live in New Zealand and here they only sell super lcd version..(GT-i9023)
I heard Super LCD version is better for battery efficiency and reading a text.
jorkobe23 said:
Thanks guys!
I just wanna know which one is better between amoled or super lcd.
I live in New Zealand and here they only sell super lcd version..(GT-i9023)
I heard Super LCD version is better for battery efficiency and reading a text.
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Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921861. I once started it when I was trying to find the real difference between (Super Clear) LCD and (Super) AMOLED. The thread has tons of pictures, videos, experiences, etc. Read it through. If that's not enough (I doubt it), you can read this thread that I made on a dutch forum. You probably don't speak dutch, but you could translate it. It is a very informative thread about the difference between LCD and AMOLED. It took me a while to make, but it was worth it. Keep in mind though that there is a difference between Super LCD and Super Clear LCD. A big difference.
Androyed said:
Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921861. I once started it when I was trying to find the real difference between (Super Clear) LCD and (Super) AMOLED. The thread has tons of pictures, videos, experiences, etc. Read it through. If that's not enough (I doubt it), you can read this thread that I made on a dutch forum. You probably don't speak dutch, but you could translate it. It is a very informative thread about the difference between LCD and AMOLED. It took me a while to make, but it was worth it. Keep in mind though that there is a difference between Super LCD and Super Clear LCD. A big difference.
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Nice review mate!
I just read your thread and I feel Super Clear LCD feels more like iPhoney.
I like the retina display as well as Super Amoled but for web browsing I guess Super Clear LCD is better.
jorkobe23 said:
Nice review mate!
I just read your thread and I feel Super Clear LCD feels more like iPhoney.
I like the retina display as well as Super Amoled but for web browsing I guess Super Clear LCD is better.
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The retina display is very much undersaturated, like 40 percent. Just like Super AMOLED is like 40 percent oversaturated. Super Clear LCD's colors are much more natural.
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The retina display is very much undersaturated, like 40 percent. Just like Super AMOLED is like 40 percent oversaturated. Super Clear LCD's colors are much more natural.
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Ah really?
But I want to know about how it is different when I read the text on the phone.
Retina display is amazing for web browsing and reading books.
is Super clear lcd like that?
jorkobe23 said:
Ah really?
But I want to know about how it is different when I read the text on the phone.
Retina display is amazing for web browsing and reading books.
is Super clear lcd like that?
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Not that sharp as the retina display, although that has nothing to do with the fact that it is a retina display.
Iphone 4 resolution is higher than Nexus S resolution. And the screen of the iPhone 4 is smaller. But like I said, that has nothing to do with the fact that it is a retina display.
One thing I can say you is that whites are very easy to the eye on Super Clear LCD. With Opera or another web-browser that isn't as laggy as stock browser, you'll have a pleasant experience. True, the resolution isn't as high as the iPhones resolution, but the bigger screen also has an advantage of course.
Hey,
I cant decide which phone I should get. I cant decide between the Samsung Galaxy Note and Samsung Galaxy Nexus?
Pro's and Con's:
Note is bigger, but seems to lagg a bit.
Note's screen is easily damagable (I read about it on XDA).
Nexus is pure Google and gets easy updates.
Nexus has many bugs, and seems to be a banana phone (maturate at the customer).
Nexus is fast(?)
More?! Help me please!
I use my phone for several tasks:
Browsing the web
Twitter
RSS Feeds
Mails
Developing
Facebook
Some games
If you feel the need to ask the question, then you should go with the Note. If you don't know what it means to own a Nexus, you will not appreciate it.
SGS1 is my first Android Phone and I love it, because I don't have to use messed up Samsung ****. I bought it and switched to custom ROMS like CM7 and now CM9. (*cough* before I used an iPhone *cough*)
What means a Nexus?
Leandros_Ger said:
SGS1 is my first Android Phone and I love it, because I don't have to use messed up Samsung ****. I bought it and switched to custom ROMS like CM7 and now CM9. (*cough* before I used an iPhone *cough*)
What means a Nexus?
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A nexus is a pure google/aosp based phone. No manufacturer UI such as Touchwiz, just pure android. It is very very development friendly. A nexus is for a true android fan.
lowandbehold said:
A nexus is a pure google/aosp based phone. No manufacturer UI such as Touchwiz, just pure android. It is very very development friendly. A nexus is for a true android fan.
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I never used TouchWiz so much on my SGS1. Is it better as 1 and a half ago? And I don't use it now.
But how is the performance of the nexus? Fast? How is it with the bugs? I read there are a lot? How is the display? Against the Note?
Leandros_Ger said:
I never used TouchWiz so much on my SGS1. Is it better as 1 and a half ago? And I don't use it now.
But how is the performance of the nexus? Fast? How is it with the bugs? I read there are a lot? How is the display? Against the Note?
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Of course it is fast, all new high end phones are fast. The GPU is slightly better in the SGSII and the Note, but the lightweight software optimized specifically for the nexus easily makes up for that. There were bugs when it first came out, but that is to be expected with the first phone with ICS. They have been ironed out through updates though. The display is a matter of opinion. Some like the Nexus, some like the note.
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Of course it is fast, all new high end phones are fast. The GPU is slightly better in the SGSII and the Note, but the lightweight software optimized specifically for the nexus easily makes up for that. There were bugs when it first came out, but that is to be expected with the first phone with ICS. They have been ironed out through updates though. The display is a matter of opinion. Some like the Nexus, some like the note.
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Dont helps me a lot.
Does you, or anyone else know, how much I have to tweak the to phones that they are fast as hell and reliable?
Leandros_Ger said:
Dont helps me a lot.
Does you, or anyone else know, how much I have to tweak the to phones that they are fast as hell and reliable?
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Honestly, with the new phones you don't have to do much tweaking at all to make them fast.
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Honestly, with the new phones you don't have to do much tweaking at all to make them fast.
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Nice.
I can remember my hardcore SGS1 times, LagFix and so on, I tweaked the hell out of my phone ^^
And now I am to lazy, I only want to root and a software update here and there. But not loose all data and so on. If you know what I mean.
My father has the known galaxy is beautiful and is a cross between tablet and phone and not even look so great ... Also the screen is beautiful .. Regarding the nexus has already being done by google ics also be updated for the first ... If I had to choose to take the notes is really HUGE
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Just make sure it's using Exynos Processor
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I was perfectly ready to leave the Android platform for WP7. Either for a Nokia Lumia 900 or HTC Titan II.
But with the release of the Samsung Galaxy S3, I'm kinda being lured back to Android.
Anyone in this kind of predicament? And if so... Any advice?
I'm currently using a HTC Desire. But by now it's very outdated, slow and likes to crash lately.
I really like the design of WP7 but I think it's no alternative to Android. Just think about the possibilities to customize ur system. I really need something new once in a while.
But the design of the SGS3 does not really satisfy me. I really don't like these plastic cases...
IMHO if you were about to jump ship the GS3 shouldn't really make you change your mind. It's definitely not a game changer. Sure it's a good phone, but if I still had my GS2 I wouldn't upgrade yet. If I'll ever go back to Android it will be for no less than a Cortex-a15 and an edge to edge SAMOLED+ HD. If I were you I'd get a Lumia 900 while I wait for the GS4, or even for the iPhone 5 or 6. At least you'll have the chance to try WP for a good while, and if you like it you may also consider getting an Apollo device when they come out. I'm very likely to go for this option, I've been pretty happy with WP7 in the last 5 months. No matter how hard I try, I can't really keep a phone for more than a year, I get bored easily I guess
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Its not always about being able to customize your phone. Sometimes its just about being able to USE your phone. I must be getting old because working on android is starting to get boring. Is the Beta test over? I think when people say customize what they are really saying is updating to the latest version of Android because the manufactures aren't doing it. Why should we have to do something that is somewhat expected of the phone manufactures? I'm still waiting on official ICS for my Xoom and Rezound. One thing you can say about WP and iPhone when an update comes out EVERYONE gets it at the same time, not when a phone manufacturer gets to it. That is really starting to get old for me. Maybe I should go back to the old flip phones they never needed updates..
just my 2 cents.. (who cares right?)
Just purchase a used GS2, you have a Desire and you may keep your next device for a long time.
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zone23 said:
Its not always about being able to customize your phone. Sometimes its just about being able to USE your phone. I must be getting old because working on android is starting to get boring. Is the Beta test over? I think when people say customize what they are really saying is updating to the latest version of Android because the manufactures aren't doing it. Why should we have to do something that is somewhat expected of the phone manufactures? I'm still waiting on official ICS for my Xoom and Rezound. One thing you can say about WP and iPhone when an update comes out EVERYONE gets it at the same time, not when a phone manufacturer gets to it. That is really starting to get old for me. Maybe I should go back to the old flip phones they never needed updates..
just my 2 cents.. (who cares right?)
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Honestly I don't mind "forcing" an update from time to time. Also, people should start to understand that once that a new version of the software comes out your phone won't brick itself. I mean, if I had an ICS device now I probably won't give a damn about JB when it comes out. ICS is pretty much a full experience, JB will definitely be a minor update, like 2.2 to 2.3. Anyway I must say that I feel pretty much like you. Toying with the phone all day can be fun for a while, but once you're not a teen with nothing to do anymore you may wanna have a phone that just works with no gimmicks. That's why I'm happy with WP7 now. I'm still a nerd tho, don't get me wrong: I'm getting an Android tablet as soon as a good one comes out (Exynos quad please), but basically just for fun. As to my PHONE it's all a different kind of business right now, if you get what I mean
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zone23 said:
Its not always about being able to customize your phone. Sometimes its just about being able to USE your phone. I must be getting old because working on android is starting to get boring. Is the Beta test over? I think when people say customize what they are really saying is updating to the latest version of Android because the manufactures aren't doing it. Why should we have to do something that is somewhat expected of the phone manufactures? I'm still waiting on official ICS for my Xoom and Rezound. One thing you can say about WP and iPhone when an update comes out EVERYONE gets it at the same time, not when a phone manufacturer gets to it. That is really starting to get old for me. Maybe I should go back to the old flip phones they never needed updates..
just my 2 cents.. (who cares right?)
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Lots of truth. And with that in mind, I might be tempted to move to iOS or WP7.
But, although I don't live to flash new ROM's all the time or customizing the phone constantly, I do have my phone customized just the way I want it and the way it is most useful to me. This includes, having a custom ICS ROM (I tried 2, settled on one and haven't moved for months, except for updates which are OTA and pretty simple). I don't think I could get either iOS or WP7 (probably mostly because of the lack of some of the apps I have on Android) to behave the way I want them to.
In the case of iOS I speak out of current personal experience. My personal phone is a SGS with ICS. The company I work with gave us iPhones. It's a pain in the ass to use that thing. Simple things such as turning stuff on or off, and the notifications are a joke. Lack of widgets is another weak point for iPhone, among many, many other things. The only really strong point is the camer which takes great pictures. But I end up taking them with my SGS because getting them off the iPhone is another goddamned chore.
I can't begin to count the times when I was doing something on the damn iPhone that takes me a zillion finger taps and thinking "this would be so simple on my SGS with a widget or shortcut or w/e".
In my case it's not really about customization for customization's sake. it's about productivity and, like someone said, being able to use the phone in a simple way. The phone adapts to the way I think, not the other way around.
The GS2 is one step forward and three steps back. It won't be as smooth, as good looking, or as user friendly as WP7, I guarantee that.
i will still go for a S2, and with the S3, S2 price will definitely drop.
the rom community for S2 is pretty awesome too, so yeah another plus point
I find the iPhone bland and screen has washed out colours. Ppi doesn't make a huge difference
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I don't like the WP, android is much better. I'm gonna stay with my SII for now
I don't choose wp7 because market place is not supported in Malta which suck .I know many ppl like me.
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I don't choose wp7 because market place is not supported in Malta which suck .I know many ppl like me.
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Yeah, Microsoft must improve the worldwide support, here in Italy Bing is "beta", and doesn't really work well, so we're stuck with beta software. God, they should at least give us the option to change the default search engine, being forced to use a third party app just to "google" for something is pretty lame.
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You still cant change search providers? It's 2012 for goodness sake.
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I believe you should stick to android but SGIII shouldn't be the phone that brings you back. Plastic is a pretty bad material
I'd wait for the price drop and get a SG2. It's a great phone and there's a lot of great ROMs out there.
I bought an Omnia W and kept it for 3 days. Hated it. All of it!
Returned it to the store and got my self a 1 month used SG2... couldn't be happier!
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I believe you should stick to android but SGIII shouldn't be the phone that brings you back. Plastic is a pretty bad material
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Plastic is more durable than metal or any other material. Take a galaxy s2 and an iPhone and drop them at shoulder height. The galaxy s2 will have a little dent in the plastic. The iPhone would be completely shattered
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I'd wait for the price drop and get a SG2. It's a great phone and there's a lot of great ROMs out there.
I bought an Omnia W and kept it for 3 days. Hated it. All of it!
Returned it to the store and got my self a 1 month used SG2... couldn't be happier!
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You may also consider the Gnex actually. Right now you can find it at a lower price compared to the GS2: here in Italy I can find it online for 359€, pretty good considering that the GS2 can't be found for less than 400€, and it's kind of a more "dated" device...
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It seems confirmed that they went with the phone UI on the 10" tablet Nexus 10 like previous leaked pics showed...
HOW EFFING STUPID IS IT?!?!?
You waste all of the huge space on the whole bottom row and you add another bar (the notification bar) at the top of the screen wasting precious vertical space!!!!
I really, REALLY hope no one else follow Google on this!! I have always MUCH preferred Samsung Touchwiz and this is just further proof that the "Google experience" is a WORSE experience...
Very dissapointed...
Totally agree
Btw google experience is good except for that space wastage
Hardware keys were good enough
I think its gonna have the hybrid ui like the nexus 7
its actually mixed....its phone ui...but the apps are in tablet ui.....
Wait...it's there a setting to remove the notification bar like in some apps?
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I think its gonna have the hybrid ui like the nexus 7
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its actually mixed....its phone ui...but the apps are in tablet ui.....
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That's not the issue at all here. Of course it's a "hybrid" UI and of course apps are in the tablet UI... The (HUGE) issue is the one I talked about in the first post.
Google is trying to go with the uniform look so new users to Android wouldnt be confused when it comes to where to look for what no matter if they're using Nexus 4, 7, or 10, the experience will be the same
Why are you opening so many threads about this. Seriously relax and buy something else if you don't like it that much.
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What I find funny is that people were complaining when the Honeycomb interface was introduced. Now they're complaining when its being replaced
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Why are you opening so many threads about this. Seriously relax and buy something else if you don't like it that much.
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"So many threads" = 2
"this" = 2 different things (one HW, the other SW)
Hello..??
xdapao3 said:
"So many threads" = 2
"this" = 2 different things (one HW, the other SW)
Hello..??
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But your talking about the phone UI on the other thread so whats the need of this one ?
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Not everyone is on xda and even knows the difference. The point is to make the ui experience similar on different devices so a newbie can pick any nexus device up and know how to use it without learning something new. Basically Google is doing what Apple does with iOS being the same on all their devices. It is for ease of use for tech newbies. The good thing about Android is that it isn't very hard to ditch the hybrid ui and get back the tablet ui if you want to and any user on xda should know that so complaining isn't useful. Just be happy it can be changed to suit your preferences and isn't locked down like iOS.
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I say it blows but being an open unlockable device I ain't much worried about it...
I think, why complain for something you know you will eventually be able to change when developers put their hands on it, besides, lots of other ppl who dont even know of the existence of xda nor that it should have tablet UI will still be happy with their N10, and for all of you that want tablet UI just wait a little more and I bet there will be tablet UI on the N10, just gotta be patient, lots of ppl complained the same for the N7, and now we have tablet UI working like a charm
So, seeing how the latest CM10 for the Nexus 10 DO NOT get rid of this INSANELY MORONIC UI, how do you guys telling me not to sweat it feel about it now..?
For my part, I am just super-glad that the tablet that I deem to be the overall best one around today and that I recently bought, the Note 10.1 3G, has kept the "traditional" tablet UI (hands down the best tablet UI of all) also on the official JB update and Samsung doesn't seem to be intentioned to follow Google into this madness...
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So, seeing how the latest CM10 for the Nexus 10 DO NOT get rid of this INSANELY MORONIC UI, how do you guys telling me not to sweat it feel about it now..?
For my part, I am just super-glad that the tablet that I deem to be the overall best one around today and that I recently bought, the Note 10.1 3G, has kept the "traditional" tablet UI (hands down the best tablet UI of all) also on the official JB update and Samsung doesn't seem to be intentioned to follow Google into this madness...
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Actually the jelly bean update that is currently officially available for the Note 10.1 is 4.1. Google changed tablet mode in 4.2.
And if you want to experience tablet mode on the N10 get paranoid android, as CM always uses the stock layout that the device has.
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Actually the jelly bean update that is currently officially available for the Note 10.1 is 4.1. Google changed tablet mode in 4.2.
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You're right although I don't see Samsung adopting that layout on 4.2...
Of course, you may have a good point and I may be devastated if they do..
And if you want to experience tablet mode on the N10 get paranoid android, as CM always uses the stock layout that the device has.
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Which points to the very limited options we have to escape Google's moronic choice...
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You're right although I don't see Samsung adopting that layout on 4.2...
Of course, you may have a good point and I may be devastated if they do..
Which points to the very limited options we have to escape Google's moronic choice...
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Actually a big reason why they might just adopt phablet ui becomes apparent if you follow the GNex PA thread.
1. The normal tablet ui was moved up to 1000dp (from 720 in 4.1 and 600 in 4.0)
2. The code is in a very bad state.
Been going on from Honeycomb and Google maintained that code in a very bad way. Riddled with hard coding and dirty hacks.
3. Is already partially deprecated. Parts of it are missing. (PA team had to forward port them)
So unless they borrow their work or do all that themselves (which would take write a while)I doubt Samsung will use old tablet ui.
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Actually a big reason why they might just adopt phablet ui becomes apparent if you follow the GNex PA thread.
1. The normal tablet ui was moved up to 1000dp (from 720 in 4.1 and 600 in 4.0)
2. The code is in a very bad state.
Been going on from Honeycomb and Google maintained that code in a very bad way. Riddled with hard coding and dirty hacks.
3. Is already partially deprecated. Parts of it are missing. (PA team had to forward port them)
So unless they borrow their work or do all that themselves (which would take write a while)I doubt Samsung will use old tablet ui.
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If you are right my Note 10.1 will become almost unusable in landscape mode and I really can't believe how everybody (especially supposed powerusers here on XDA) are not screaming to high heaven about this ****ing retarded UI change.
The ONLY thing I like about the iPad is its 4:3 aspect ratio display and now our 16:10 widescreen displays are going to become even more useless in landscape view... Unbelievable how stupid this is. I just hope they will realize the madness of it... Do they (Google's UI designers, SW engineers and everybody else involved) actually use these tablets themselves????
In terms of making Android tablet's more widely adopted they have made the right UI decision. Anyone can pick up a tablet and know how to use it because the interface is the same as their phone. Plus Google know's the only people who might complain would know how to flash a rom and therefore we have options to change this (PA being a prime example).
You can guarantee not one person is going to walk into Carphone Warehouse, pickup an N7 and say omg it's just like my phone I hate this. In the same way no one seems to care an iPad is just a big iPhone without the phone part. No big deal.
Before I start, I'd just like to say that this is just my personal rant and even though some of you may not agree, that's why I'm having this as a discussion thread.
Let's get this started then.
All I see going around XDA are people comparing their own devices to the latest Nexus device and saying 'Should I switch to the Nexus?' or a load of people rimming off the Nexus' as if they're the best thing since sliced bread.
Some of you may wonder why this bothers me. I'll tell you.
Just because a device has the Nexus brand name, it doesn't make it any better than any other phone of equal quality. A hell of a lot of people will see a device is a Nexus and immediately want to get it.
Why would you want to?
If you ask one of those people why a Nexus is so great, they'll say one of three things or a mix of the three.
The reasons are;
1) All Nexus devices look great and have great build quality.
2) It's guaranteed to have great developer support.
3) It's officially supported by Google so it will get the latest Android updates before any other device.
Now, let me tell you my response to each of those points...
1) Most Nexus devices don't look great. The only one which looks good, in my opinion, is the Nexus 7. Apart from that, none of them look any better than other devices around.
2) Yes it will have great developer support, but so do a lot of phones which are already around and have been for ages now. An example of that is the Galaxy S2. It's been around for over a year and a half and it still has more development than most phones do
3) Again, this is true. But they're not the only devices to get the Android updates quickly. This site has a smattering of great developers so it will never take long for other devices to get the latest versions, and you haven't even needed to buy a new phone just to get the latest and greatest.
So with that being said, why buy the latest Nexus device when I'm reality it isn't any better than devices which are already available?
I know some of you may be Nexus fanboys and not agree with anything I've said, but I'm hoping that some of you agree just so I know that I'm not the only person who isn't being hypnotized by the word 'Nexus'.
As I said at the top of this post, I'm leaving this as a discussion so if anyone would like to add anything extra or disagree with what I've said, then you can feel free to do so.
But whatever you do, DON'T TROLL OR FLAME OTHER PEOPLE SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THEM!
Agree with all of the above! I'm getting it to replace my GNex.. it's a better device and I don't need two Nexuses
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True most other phones have similar specs (lol dnt want a nexus 4 anymore)
any suggestions??
My first real Android experience has been with the Nexus S 4G about one year ago today actually... i replaced my iPhone 3GS...
Being my first android experience, i didn't know what android offered until i physically had the phone in my hands... i had it for two weeks before deciding to root it and try out the latest Android at the time, 4.0 ICS... fell in LOVE with my phone after that... i only realized other Carriers/manufacturers added their own version of android after i got used to ICS and started looking for other devices to upgrade to... once i became educated with android, i realized that i got extremely lucky with my first android experience/purchase... because not only were other devices not officially updated to ICS, but the rollout of ICS took a very long time to even start getting stable ports/builds from developers... the skin thing also turned me off from wanting another device...
Simply put, even tho my phone is rooted, i can only vouch for devices that come with pure Google experience as that was my first real android experience... someone will say that you can always root your device and update as developers push out there latest ROMs for other devices... but i can't promote that to my friends/family that don't even know what rooting means (like myself before)...
i strongly promote the Galaxy S3... in fact just yesterday someone posted on Facebook asking if they should get the gs3 or iPhone 5... i was surprised to see out of around 20 replies, only 2 said to get the iPhone 5... i said gs3 but i also mentioned the Nexus 4 and its amazing price point... she looked it up but liked the gs3 look more... today she bought the gs3 because of that and because the N4 isn't available yet...
Before, if anyone asked me what phone to get, I immediately said the gs3 hands down... now my response is Nexus 4... i prefer the sleek/clean look and curved glass of the Nexus devices... the gs3 would be great IMO if it didn't have hard keys like back/home/menu at the bottom... so with that, the N4 looks better to me than any other device out there... i also loved the look of the Gnex... sadly, that one lacked in specs for me to upgrade my ns4g... and sadly the N4 lacks CDMA/LTE support for me to upgrade... now I'm kinda stuck as to what now?
Hope that was a civil response you want in this thread
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FangV said:
True most other phones have similar specs (lol dnt want a nexus 4 anymore)
any suggestions??
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Ask in this thread mate
the1dynasty said:
My first real Android experience has been with the Nexus S 4G about one year ago today actually... i replaced my iPhone 3GS...
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I can understand why some would want the pure Google experience, but there are ROMs which provide an extremely close experience anyway. Plus with the added features they have, it seems like the logical choice to go for custom ROMs, at least in my opinion.
If you use the thread linked above, you'll be able to ask there about what device to get next if you're not too sure.
And yeah, that response was all good
Galaxy S3 was a lot slower and laggy compared to my gnex. Went back to my gnex after a week. I buy the nexus for the pure android. Its smoother, cleaner, quicker and just better.
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Galaxy S3 was a lot slower and laggy compared to my gnex. Went back to my gnex after a week. I buy the nexus for the pure android. Its smoother, cleaner, quicker and just better.
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Yeah.. noticed the same when comparing JB on my S3 to JB on my Nexus..
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Ask in this thread mate
I can understand why some would want the pure Google experience, but there are ROMs which provide an extremely close experience anyway. Plus with the added features they have, it seems like the logical choice to go for custom ROMs, at least in my opinion.
If you use the thread linked above, you'll be able to ask there about what device to get next if you're not too sure.
And yeah, that response was all good
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I know custom ROMs are available for other devices... but the only other phone on my radar was the gs3 but I hated those buttons... i enabled the on screen buttons on my ns4g and my kernel let's me dim the light on the capacitive buttons so its like they're not even there anymore lol... i lost some screen real estate but no biggie really...
I was really looking forward to the next nexus and was really disappointed to hear no CDMA/LTE support being that i have unlimited with Sprint now and I'm gonna be switching to a special unlimited plan with Verizon in a month or so... i really wanted to continue using nexus devices but looks like I'll have to go elsewhere for now... luckily, I'm content with this ns4g being that i got it tuned nearly perfect for good performance... the SD read is still a bit slow tho... i can survive until something wets my appetite again like the N4... or I'll just get the SGS4 if nothing comes out before then...
Btw, I'm on 4.1.2 right now running most apps from 4.2 system dump... so this 2year old phone can even take photosphere, and quite well i might add... no rush to upgrade devices... if rather put that money to getting the Nexus 10
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Another reason is that all of the hardwares of Nexus devices are guaranteed to be open, unlike most Samsung touchwiz devices.
Another one is that new nexus devices are all have insanely low prices as they are subsidized by Google.
Also, now nexus devices have the greatest fastest socs in the market. Just look at nexus 4's S4 pro and nexus 10's Exynos 5.
In response to your opinion,
1. Not all nexus devices have great build quality, especially those ones made by Samsung. But in my opinion, all nexus devices have great design and look. Just look at the nexus 4. It's one of the most gorgeous phones in the planet.
2. For your information, the development of the Galaxy s2 is now dead. Also, the galaxy s3 is almost dead. Those are caused by their closed source drivers.
3. Nexus devices are the first to get the STABLE, latest android version.
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The reason is that the Nexus line keeps choices simple. Also, they don't have bloat (TouchWiz, Sense, etc) - and don't say get an AOSP ROM. I have heard that they are nothing but trouble. I quite like the idea of my tablet looking like it's running the same OS as my phone. And personally, the Nexus 4 is the best looking phone out there IMO, even compared to the iPhone 5 and the Samsung S3 (the style/position of the home button killed that design). I really like the UI design of stock Android too, it's not childish or cutesy looking like the bloat or iOS. I'm into the whole 'sci-fi' theme of it.
Also, looking at most other phones, they generally fall short in certain areas, whereas the Nexus devices as of late are looking relatively well considered. After using a Galaxy Nexus, I despise the current state of AMOLED tech. That rules out almost every Samsung phone under the sun. HTC One Xes supposedly have sucky battery life (plus, Tegra 3 vs a quadcore Snapdragon simply isn't a competition at all), and I've decided that lasting less than 5 hours with the screen on (for any mobile device, tablet, phone, whatever) just isn't good enough anymore.
Tablet-wise, for an Android tablet, there is no comparison to the upcoming Nexus 10. The Note sucks and the Infinity really sucks. The iPad wants you to get into the whole Apple ecosystem with Macs and iPhones to really get the best out of things like iCloud and whatnot, and Mac sucks for software & games.
The only real competitor to a Nexus is Windows 8 and WP8, which both look great (better than Android except for the whole 'Bing' thing) but their ecosystems aren't ready for real use yet. I have to say, the Lumia 920 is packing some awesome technology, and with the winter season coming I would really appreciate the touch screen you can use with gloves on. Not to mention the typical Nokia build quality, plus it seems to have everything covered.
The Nexus phones are the quickest to get updates and don't have any OEM skins or bloatware that is forced on the users. While an AOSP ROM can be ported to any phone in theory, it takes time and there are usually hardware issues due to closed source or unavailable drivers, and also locked bootloaders.
The problem with the Nexus line is its sort of like Apple's devices in the sense that there is limited hardware choice and device's memory can't be expanded. My personal hardware tastes are for a smaller device with no more than a 4.3" screen and it must have a microSD slot. I'll put up with OEM skins, bloatware can be frozen with root, as hardware is more important to me than software. But everyone it entitled to their own opinions and preferences.
Nexus phones do have bloat. Google+, google currents, Google earth, google movies, Google books, etc. All /system apps that can't be removed. Most of them are useless.
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Personally running Slim on my S3 is fast enough for me and my aged brain, any faster and I can't keep up!
Add to that my phone is my main music player hooked up to amp and speakers, I love that I can dual boot to get Samsung best bits(few!)
Not worried about lte
Glass back may be stylish.....but is utterly stupid on a phone.
......I am stupid!.....the reasoning?..... .this is all my opinion, nobody is really interested, and I'm not really interested in theirs......ergot......I MUST be stupid for posting in first place.....
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Nexus phones do have bloat. Google+, google currents, Google earth, google movies, Google books, etc. All /system apps that can't be removed. Most of them are useless.
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Was that your final answer? I use most of those... and last I checked, u can go to the play store and uninstall all of them... don't even need root if I'm not mistaken...
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If you ask one of those people why a Nexus is so great, they'll say one of three things or a mix of the three.
The reasons are;
1) All Nexus devices look great and have great build quality.
2) It's guaranteed to have great developer support.
3) It's officially supported by Google so it will get the latest Android updates before any other device.
Now, let me tell you my response to each of those points...
1) Most Nexus devices don't look great. The only one which looks good, in my opinion, is the Nexus 7. Apart from that, none of them look any better than other devices around.
2) Yes it will have great developer support, but so do a lot of phones which are already around and have been for ages now. An example of that is the Galaxy S2. It's been around for over a year and a half and it still has more development than most phones do
3) Again, this is true. But they're not the only devices to get the Android updates quickly. This site has a smattering of great developers so it will never take long for other devices to get the latest versions, and you haven't even needed to buy a new phone just to get the latest and greatest.
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1) I'll agree not all Nexus look great, though that's a real personal preference thing. I for one, would prefer the Nexus one look over the Nexus s. I currently own a Gnex and I'd be honest in saying it looks alright, but I would like some changes made (Nexus 4, comes close)
2) To be fair, of course the S2 (and noteably other handsets) will have a large dev support, in terms of quantity they sell a lot more than the Nexus family (exception of the Nexus 7, that's the first Nexus priced aggressively)
3) Quick =/= first to get updates. Some people just want the newest FIRST.
I personally choose the nexus because I don't want to be caught with a device that will have a short support life (mentioned above). History shows the Nexus WILL have the most official updates:
Nexus one: Shipped with Eclair, last official version was GB
Nexus S: Shipped with GB, officially supported till Jelly bean
Gnex: Don't know yet, but its gone from ICS to JB.
If you go to dev section, there are even newer (unofficial builds) I don't buy phones every year so I want a phone that will last me 2 years at least.