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Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?
kleftisx said:
Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?
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You may still be able to receive updates but I wouldn't recommend it.
I believe that you're either S-ON, no-root and apply updates or S-OFF, root and NO updates!
Ok. But what is the best method to root my ds??
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Gingerbreak or superoneclick. I prefer Gingerbreak because I found the whole process much quicker
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Im not sure if you are able to use the revolutionary tool to s-off your device, because it currently only supports HTC Desire S (saga) 0.98.0000 and 0.98.0002 hboot versions, but not the 2.00..... (coming with android 2.3.5)
you might wanna check htcdev.com for the unroot
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
Search and you will find....
kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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You need to go to the htcdev site and perform the hboot lock procedure. Search and you will find the post on how to do it.
htcdev method
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..
kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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moloto said:
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..
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You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.
Locked radio
tpbklake said:
You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.
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With all the respect, yes you can install custom rom with open hboot and you can gain a root(su) user rights, BUT if your rom is not compatible with your RADIO the you are doomed, your wifi, sd card, and another drivers may not be working, and in this case you are unable to overwrite the radio as the S(ecurity)-ON is locking right this. That was exactly my case, i installed S-ON original hboot from RUU 2.00.0002 and the newest Desire S ROM, but my wifi was not working and my sd was not accesible from pc, i went into recovery a tryied to flash RADIO image, but it was not possible, everytime the recovery was parsing the image and then just went back to bootloader main screen like nothing happend, this is because the RADIO is locked, i have tryied more imeges to be sure the first one was not corrupted, everytime the same result..
Still didn't find a way to root my DS.
Can anyone provide me a link to do this?
Go to http://www.htcdev.com press unlock bootloader and follow the instructions to s-off your device. (instead of all the files there, you will need only this http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=727371&d=1316684239. Desire S is not at the supported devices, but it works great.)
It says "unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data from your device including applications, text messages and personalized settings" which means that it will reset all your phone settings I suppose. If anyone has tried this please inform us what we loose and if there is a better way for avoiding that.
@kleftisx p.m.to me in Greek if you didn't understand something!
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Root Desire S
i am gonna try it.
thanks
First thing's first - I'm definitely not a newb.
My phone (Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA) is depended upon for work and person use. I've been playing with a lot of custom ROMs and each and every one of them has their own little quirks.
Because of this I have seriously considered going back to stock, but I want to be sure that I can receive OTA updates.
I realize that I can get everything back to stock via RUU, HOWEVER, with SuperCID in place, would I still be able to receive OTA updates? I've read that the RUU doesn't replace the SuperCID with the shipped value.
If not, how would I get the SuperCID back to the original value (which unfortunately I don't have - phone was bought used and already rooted) ?
Thanks so much!
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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Sinistra425 said:
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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Yes it will!
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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The RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery
Sinistra425 said:
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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What about the cid??
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No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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Sinistra425 said:
No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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I'm thinking if I need to use warranty?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
SensationX1 said:
Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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you could.. but since you can easily rewrite your cid, why worry?
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
anardjai said:
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
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Are you sure for this? From what I know IF you install stock ROM from RUU, it will automatically unroot the phone, get back to S-On and of course replace your bootloader with the original one. However to be honest I don't know what happens if you install stock from clockwork recovery - maybe that way the bootloader will not be replaced and you will still have S-Off and root.
TO JWhipple: The Super CID shouldn't matter for RUU. However you could always change it back to your phone/operator version before installing RUU.
@up: not in Sensation. After installing stock with RUU, S-OFF will remain still. To get S-ON back follow this guide. I'm sure, tested on my own Sensation
What would be the right order to go with:
Do you start with changing the SuperCID back to the original one forst or would you first have to go back to S-ON?
SIMPLY TELL ME ONE THING
that can we have official update after installing the latest ruu with s-on and unroot but with super cid?????
thanks
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installing stock ruu doesnt change the phone to s-on or unroot.......but see the guide to do s-on then u might get the official updates
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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hello how r u ?
seems u got allot exp. in this i try to get back to my stock ruu rom after installing ginger bread arhd and pg53img 3.12 it stops and say error 155 what should i do to get back to stock
dexter93 said:
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
serega12 said:
Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
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No it is not necessary. It will be required only if your device is S-ON and RUU version is older. Just remeber that if your phone is S-OFF and you want to put it S-ON again, do that after you have flashed stock ROM.
Hello xda users.
I want to root my sensation, and therefor i need to get it from android 4.0.3 to 2.3 so it can be possible for me to do.
My HTC
HTC Sensation Z710e
Android 4.0.3
Sense 3.6
Softwarenumber 3.32.401.5
Here is the thing, ive looked around for hours on filefactory.com
put i cant seem to find a file that can put my sensation back to stock rom, so i can start root it. Could any of you be kind and help an noob out here?
Are you S-ON?
Yes S-on ..
you can root your ICS with S-On
Go to htcDev and unloock your phone
flash in a new recovery using "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" using the recovery.img file extracted from PG58IMG.zip
then using cwr flash the updatede SU
Boom! your root
using htcdev unlock whill wipe all your programs and settings AND void your waranty. and u might brick your phone
AND FYI u cant downgrade your Hboot if u are S-ON and the new 1.27 is imposible at this time to get s-off
i will go do that asap ..
Thank you for your quick answers ..
Best regards
maydayind said:
you can root your ICS with S-On
Go to htcDev and unloock your phone
flash in a new recovery using "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" using the recovery.img file extracted from PG58IMG.zip
then using cwr flash the updatede SU
Boom! your root
using htcdev unlock whill wipe all your programs and settings AND void your waranty. and u might brick your phone
AND FYI u cant downgrade your Hboot if u are S-ON and the new 1.27 is imposible at this time to get s-off
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THe line "then using cwr flash the updated SU", can you explain further please?
Use CWM (Clockwork Mod) to flash the SU package - if you don't know how to do that then don't even try
i do know what that is, its just my english isnt that well.
i went to htcDev, and unlocked my sensation.
then i got rom manager on android market and tried Flash Cwr but im stuck at here..
SirLange said:
i do know what that is, its just my english isnt that well.
i went to htcDev, and unlocked my sensation.
then i got rom manager on android market and tried Flash Cwr but im stuck at here..
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ROM Manager needs root to function, and since you don't have root yet you'll have to flash the recovery through fastboot. Then you can install Superuser through your recovery.
But wait, you want to downgrade to Gingerbread? You won't be able to do that since your device will still be S-ON, and Gingerbread won't boot on HBOOT 1.27 (necessarily for ICS).
So the thing Maydayind said about
"you can root your ICS with S-On"
What did he mean with it ?
Update user Dictionary in Android 4.x
Hello,
Anyone who has an app where you can update many words into the user Dictionary?
Thanks.
Hello everybody
I have HTC Sensation with original(no custom rom) ICS 4.0.3 and Hboot 1.27 version, i want to delete stock programs, which i don't need. I tried with revolutionary.io to root but it says that Hboot version is incompatible. So what can i do now? Is there any solution?
By the way, root and S-off is the same thing?
xargentum said:
Hello everybody
I have HTC Sensation with original(no custom rom) ICS 4.0.3 and Hboot 1.27 version, i want to delete stock programs, which i don't need. I tried with revolutionary.io to root but it says that Hboot version is incompatible. So what can i do now? Is there any solution?
By the way, root and S-off is the same thing?
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no root and soff are different
check for soff at hboot
deleting stock programs are difficult but with titanium backup you can freeze the system apps at least afaik
So what i must do to be able to delete stock programs? S-off or root?
You need s-off to delete apps as you are editing /system. However you can flash a custom rom which will install without all the junk apps. You need to unlock with HTC.dev then root. Be aware this has limitations, you cannot flash firmwares or use advanced fastboot commands. S-off is superior.
If you decide the flash, I recommend sharpy strpt cm9 - 8 apps when flashed!
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You can't use titanium backup because u r not rooted. You need change ur hbooot to 1.17 or 1.18 to get soff. U need to revert back to gingerbread get ur soff first them u can upgrade to ics and ur hboot.
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jasminthoria said:
You can't use titanium backup because u r not rooted. You need change ur hbooot to 1.17 or 1.18 to get soff. U need to revert back to gingerbread get ur soff first them u can upgrade to ics and ur hboot.
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Is it possible to revert back to gingerbread ? How ?
Can I join conversation with similar question. I just bought htc sensation 4G from another guy. Adroid 4.0.3 with Sense 4 room InsertCoin beta 10 runs on phone. I found SuperSU app on phone whitch I assume it is for rooting or something.
Can someone help me to instal new more stable rom, or just give me useful link with explanation. And how to check that some phone is rooted. Thanks.
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Mustang-GT said:
Is it possible to revert back to gingerbread ? How ?
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Yes have to flash bootloader to downgrade.
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raso86 said:
Can I join conversation with similar question. I just bought htc sensation 4G from another guy. Adroid 4.0.3 with Sense 4 room InsertCoin beta 10 runs on phone. I found SuperSU app on phone whitch I assume it is for rooting or something.
Can someone help me to instal new more stable rom, or just give me useful link with explanation. And how to check that some phone is rooted. Thanks.
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Install root checker app from market you can verify is ur phone rooted or not.
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raso86 said:
Can I join conversation with similar question. I just bought htc sensation 4G from another guy. Adroid 4.0.3 with Sense 4 room InsertCoin beta 10 runs on phone. I found SuperSU app on phone whitch I assume it is for rooting or something.
Can someone help me to instal new more stable rom, or just give me useful link with explanation. And how to check that some phone is rooted. Thanks.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk 2
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You are already rooted. All the custom roms are rooted also supersu is the app which manage the root privilages so you are rooted.also I guess you have complete unlocked bootloader and soff
Which are required for custom Rom installation.
(Verify these on bootloader you'll have revolutionary in pink and soff when you boot into bpootloader)
For stable Rom I reccomend ARHD
Here is the link for rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24873645
And noob proof guide to install ARHD
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
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Unfortunately you cant S-off your phone right now, only with HTCDev, but this will not give you a proper S-off. You will have to wait untill Juopunutbear is released, this will give you proper S-off and allow you to do everything with your phone.
1. Need to Unlock Bootloader at http://htcdev.com/
2. After the download is complete Unlock Bootloader Recoverymanager file on the new computer to run on the DC Recover
Note: The above must be on the phone setting -> application -> On the next Unkown Sources and Development -> USB Debugging pop up
After the download is complete Recoverymanager file to extract, open up the program, press start, select download recovery, select HTC Sensation, select CWM 5.0.2.0 (pyramid) and click download and flash
After the show flash inflate a screen that asks Yes, No, cancel. Make sure you select No, the phone will reboot into recovery. If you choose the other 2 will not install.
After running Recovery may be normal in nhe1 thats alright.
3. After installation is complete you use CWM file attached to root su: in recovery, select the file and select install from zip file Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip.
Is this method also valid for S-ON ?
Long time ago I had a rooted Desire S. I flashed a Rom and the Rom installation was aborted. After that I couldn't flash any Rom. So I decided to get back to stock rom. After trying to install the Ruu with Android 2.3.5 and Sense 3.0 the phone stuck in bootloader with secrurity warning.
Last week I installed the Ruu with ICS and it worked. Now I've got that Relocked in bootloader
Now I want to know how I can root my Desire S again because I read that you can't root a phone with the normal way (htc.dev, downgrade, install old Ruu etc.)
How can I root my DS with that ***Relocked*** in the bootloader?
(Sorry for my bad English)
Do your research.
Htc-dev unlock. Custom recovery. SuperSU or SuperUser.
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