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What the heck was I thinking????

Walked into a Verizon store so my girlfriend could get a new phone. As the salesman was helping her out, he started up a conversation with me about who I had service with and what phone I was using.
Like a gun slinger pulling out his shiny nickle plated revolver I smuggly produced my fully hacked and modded Samsung Captivate. He was seriously impressed with it. Especially that I had a 2.2.1 ROM loaded on it with all the bells and whistles.
Then the fun was over and he hit me where it hurt....."How much are you paying each month for your service?"
To shorten up this story I will just skip to the part where he offered me a service plan on my 3 lines (2 of which are Captivates) that was almost too good to be true, and before I new it, my poor cappy was now nothing more than a hopped up mp3 player, and I was the new owner of a Droid X.
Its been 2 days, and I have yet to have a conversation where the phone doesn't shut down in the middle of it. I have flashed the latest and greatest ROM over on the Droid X side but it still reboots at will. I have found numerous people with the same problem after searching Google, but no fixes for it.
Coincidentally, the second droid is doing the same thing.
To be honest, even without the reboot issue, the DX just doesn't compare to my Captivate in any way.....well except for one. The GPS is stinking flawless on the droid.
I want to drive by the Verizon store and throw all three phones through the window and go back to AT&T begging them to take me back without either of them charging me out the yahoo in penalties.
Does anyone know if I can switch back without any issues or is Verizon and AT&T both gonna stick it to me? I made the purchase 7pm Sunday the 16th.
Its worth mentioning that two numbers have been ported over to Verizon and one will not be for another week or two. So technically I still have an account with AT&T.
Thanks in advance for any replies.

At&t should be able to restore your numbers on your account. Basically everything goes back to the way it was before you ported. Then you should get credited back for the ETA fees if they already billed you for it. There may be reactivation fees though...
Doing so would also automatically cancel your Verizon account so you would need to return all the equipment back to them otherwise they'll charback your credit cards for the retail prices of the phones.
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I am actually very tempted to switch to Verizon solely due to all the scrap and issues that ATT has given me in the past. And that their 4G network promises to bring only mediocre speeds is not appealing either.
I mean, I love my Captivate, but I don't think that ATT's service is worth the money or hassle. If my workplace wasn't paying and forcing me to stay, I would have jumped ship 4 years ago.
(Why didn't you get a HTC Droid Incredible? What were you thinking? )
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All of my friends with Droid X's talk them up bigtime, then they see my screen and the realize that for them, black is just dark grey.

You should have 30 days to go back to Verizon and tell them thanks, but no thanks.

Verizon gives you 30 days to try out new phones. all you have to do is return it and they will charge you a pro-rated amount for the service that you used, nothing else. No etf's or any penalties. And I'm sure AT&T would be more than willing to take you back, especially if you are coming back from verizon.

No lie, I have heard horrible things about DROID. My buddy has replaced his 3 times.

Aus_Azn said:
I am actually very tempted to switch to Verizon solely due to all the scrap and issues that ATT has given me in the past. And that their 4G network promises to bring only mediocre speeds is not appealing either.
I mean, I love my Captivate, but I don't think that ATT's service is worth the money or hassle. If my workplace wasn't paying and forcing me to stay, I would have jumped ship 4 years ago.
(Why didn't you get a HTC Droid Incredible? What were you thinking? )
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I have no problems with att, and verizon's 4g speed is still less than the six mb/s att's 3g pulls down. I seed no reason to switch to verizon. slower, less coverage, customer service is crap, phone are ****e... Att has been nothing but gold to me.
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skatcat31 said:
I have no problems with att, and verizon's 4g speed is still less than the six mb/s att's 3g pulls down. I seed no reason to switch to verizon. slower, less coverage, customer service is crap, phone are ****e... Att has been nothing but gold to me.
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Verizon's theoretical speed is upwards of 15Mbps last I checked. AT&T's 3G coverage seems to be pretty shoddy for me; often when I'm travelling, I am forced to EDGE; it doesn't really bother me that much, but means my internet is heavily crippled. For customer service, ATT's bricked 4 of my phones and asked me to pay. I don't think it gets much worse than that; at least I managed to force them to upgrade my RAZR V3 to a V3XX after it just died within 2 months, then to send me a new one when they bricked that while unlocking it, then sending me a new LG Shine after bricking that while unlocking it when I owned it. Worst was when they bricked my Bold 9700 when they told me to update it after my data got spontaneously wiped.
AT&T has no good phones save for the Captivate and the iPhone (both of which are debatable at this point), so I have no clue what your point there is. Any of Verizon's Droids destroy both.

Aus_Azn said:
Verizon's theoretical speed is upwards of 15Mbps last I checked. AT&T's 3G coverage seems to be pretty shoddy for me; often when I'm travelling, I am forced to EDGE; it doesn't really bother me that much, but means my internet is heavily crippled. For customer service, ATT's bricked 4 of my phones and asked me to pay. I don't think it gets much worse than that; at least I managed to force them to upgrade my RAZR V3 to a V3XX after it just died within 2 months, then to send me a new one when they bricked that while unlocking it, then sending me a new LG Shine after bricking that while unlocking it when I owned it. Worst was when they bricked my Bold 9700 when they told me to update it after my data got spontaneously wiped.
AT&T has no good phones save for the Captivate and the iPhone (both of which are debatable at this point), so I have no clue what your point there is. Any of Verizon's Droids destroy both.
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i also hate at$t, but in my area it is great!! and yeah i want the infuse! i need a bigger screen,atrix will be aswome im sure, just root, flash and love life

I got a free dell streak from my dell Rep and it is easily day shiznit. It came with froyo preloaded and it is unlocked. Works great on att but there is no compatiable software for front facing webcam.
Can't beat it really. And the GPS works instantly
For realz
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I talked to the verizon rep that sold me my phones. He replaced the dx's (which have worked flawlessly btw), and told me to give it a couple of weeks before I made my move.
I have to admit, I'm liking the new coverage. I'm not getting the 2 and 3mgs download speeds I was getting on my cappy, (which I could only get in very few areas) but I am getting about 1.5mgs on the dx almost everywhere with verizon coverage.
The dx isn't a elegant a my cappy and I have had to jump through a couple of hoops to get a custom rom installed, but it is just as functional, and the gps has been spot on.
I miss my captivate pretty bad, but as the initial shock is wearing off, verizon doesn't seem do bad.
I still have a couple of weeks to decide and my cappy is still sitting on my dresser just incase.
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It's pretty retarded to leave AT&T when we're a matter of weeks away from the holy grail of Android.

derek4484 said:
Verizon gives you 30 days to try out new phones. all you have to do is return it and they will charge you a pro-rated amount for the service that you used, nothing else. No etf's or any penalties. And I'm sure AT&T would be more than willing to take you back, especially if you are coming back from verizon.
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Just to correct everyone about the "30 days" to return/cancel your service with Verizon. On Sunday the 16th (the day the OP purchased his phone) Verizon implemented a 14 day (not 30) day period to avoid the ETF.
I know this because I work at a national retailer who sells Verizon phones.
That explains why the rep said "just give it a couple more weeks." Wow do I hate people who try to screw others over (the rep in this case).
"You may return or exchange wireless devices and accessories purchased from Verizon Wireless within 14 days of purchase. A restocking fee of $35 ($70 for netbooks and tablets) applies to any return or exchange of a wireless device (excluding Hawaii)."
http://www.verizonwireless.com/ReturnPolicy.shtml

I know 2 people with Droid X's and TBH they are horrible. I'm not saying SGS phones don't have their own unique issues but the "official" 2.2 for the Droid X is seriously just bad. They both have random shutdowns/reboots and they are sluggish compared to SGS phones. The one lady I know used my cappy and didn't understand why her droid was was so much slower...at everything. I told her that's what she gets for buying a phone because it's "Cool" because they have a commercial for it ever other commercial break. Also did you look into if you get a discount through ATT for your job? I get 20% off my bill (5 phones, 3 cappys, iphone3g, crap flip phone) for a company I haven't worked for for like 4 years now.
As for the Streak, I burned all my Jinco's 15 years ago and bought jeans that fit. I don't care how great it supposedly is or isn't, a 5" phone is to big to fit in a normal pair of jeans comfortably and not look retarded.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's pretty retarded to leave AT&T when we're a matter of weeks away from the holy grail of Android.
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That might be true Mike but my money says you'll be pulling your hair out trying to port 2.3 over to the Atrix with its locked up boot loader when the Bionic is to be released with it already.
And its almost a sure bet you can tack on about 6 to 8 months on AT&T's promised release date on any phone they advertise.
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Verizon gives you 30 days to try out new phones. all you have to do is return it and they will charge you a pro-rated amount for the service that you used, nothing else. No etf's or any penalties. And I'm sure AT&T would be more than willing to take you back, especially if you are coming back from verizon.
Just to correct everyone about the "30 days" to return/cancel your service with Verizon. On Sunday the 16th (the day the OP purchased his phone) Verizon implemented a 14 day (not 30) day period to avoid the ETF.
I know this because I work at a national retailer who sells Verizon phones.
That explains why the rep said "just give it a couple more weeks." Wow do I hate people who try to screw others over (the rep in this case).
"You may return or exchange wireless devices and accessories purchased from Verizon Wireless within 14 days of purchase. A restocking fee of $35 ($70 for netbooks and tablets) applies to any return or exchange of a wireless device (excluding Hawaii)."
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This is correct. He told me this Tuesday. I bought the phones Sunday. So I have until the next saturday to make up my mind.

Just so you know, Verizon's is CDMA which means it will have weaker call signal and stronger data signal. The signal bars only report your data signal, not your voice call signal. It can be very deceiving.
Also, you cannot use data while using the phone to talk to someone. So you can't say, "Let me look it up right now." Because it will just say "No Data Connection."

if you decide to stay with verizon, make sure you check your bill each month. vzw likes to add bogus fees that most of their customers don't even notice. this happened to both me & my gf (on separate accounts)

First Verizon's return policy is 14 days after that etf is 375$ no matter where u r n contract, 2nd they don't have a 4G phone that has 4G speeds nor do any carrier. ATT speeds are greater at 3G than all competitors except tmo areas that are using their upgraded 3g network they claim is 4g and they r barely faster but they have a small area their coverage covers without losing Singal since they "changed their 3g".
And who would do the droid x over the cappy? That sales man must be good at what be does because stock the cappy kills droid x in all benchmarks and speed tests for network since Verizon 3g network is the slowest of all major carriers. Do a speed test bet it don't do more then 1.2Mbps down when I can get 5Mbps on my cappy with ATT.
ATT 4G when it is rolled out will do 4-5x faster then what it does now which is suppose to be 7Mbps x 4 so around 28Mbps down is insane... my phone is already faster then a lot of dsl providers...
Anyway not flaming just wanted to put my 2cents in with facts. My brother owns a droid x its not bad but cappy is one nice piece of hardware
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Just wondering why the op was in the Verizon store. Take her to an AT&T store man! But, to each their own.
Personally, I am looking forward to the Atrix.
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What's the Chances of AT&T swapping out a Captivate for an HTC Inspire 4G?

I went to Best Buy to peruse this evening and checked out the HTC Inspire 4G - overall it's a pretty snappy phone and the 4.3" screen has me drooling along with the front camera, rear flash and the Sense UI that has grown so much from my good old days of HTC on Windows Mobile!!! Then I thought to myself, hmmmm, perhaps AT&T will let me get it!!!
I purchased the Captivate on July 15th, about three days ahead of the actual release date and I was beaming - until the woeful GPS and now the occasional rebooting if you look at it too hard issues came up, of course I stuck with it because originally they said the holy grail of 2.2 would be out by August, then the end of September, then after Turkey day then by Christmas...... and now it's almost March, almost seven months later to the date!!!
I've been a Bell South/Cingular/AT&T subscriber since 2000, now a little over 11 years, and thru those years I've had let's say about nine phones of my own not to include my wifes phone and then my kids as they grew up and I gave them phones via the family plan. Strangely enough when I upgraded my last phone (HTC Fuze) to the captivate they gave me the option to upgrade a year later which will be July 15th, they usually let me upgrade every year or so so I'm always fresh.
But after this second hassle with them about a Samsung smart phone (first was the BlackJack) I'm pretty done and ready to go back to old reliable HTC and call them up and demand that they give me an Inspire or I nip all my plans in the bud since they all expire this year with my phone being the last one to expire in July and moving over to T-Mobile or Verizon. I know I could get it and they would probably extend my contract another 6 months or so, and I've seen the specs on it and know that by mid summer it would be be beyond old hat since it's pretty much the Evo with GSM with new Sense UI. Or I could wait and see if they would give me the Infuse or the new Motorola but I'd hate to get any of those phones then see in July that the new HTC Super Duper or Samsung Galaxy S 2.5 come out then. Should I wait it out another five months with the Captivate, play the warranty return game till they offer me an alternative or just say" Yo AT&T, if you still want my business give me a Motorola!!!"

Right there with you. Got my Cappy in late July, now on my sixth. They offered to give me a different phone on the last two, but the closest to the Cap's specs were the x10 and iPhone 4. Hoping number six here holds out until the x12's or Atrix's come out. If they're not willing to budge on my terms when it inevitably dies (free and no-new-contract) then I'm paying the ETF and heading to sprint.

I'm planning on doing the same. Although chances are they will only change it (one time) to another phone that is refurbished. So it might take a while to jump on a new phone.

How did you manage to gets a one year contract with a phone upgrade? I wish I got that.I have a one year upgrade option but a t year contract that gets extended with every upgrade. The 300-500 is not worth the contract cancellation for me
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crystalhand said:
The 300-500 is not worth the contract cancellation for me
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True. But with all the bullsh*t that has came with this droid and having to take 5 phones to the post office to be shipped back (only to be refurb'd again and passed off to some other poor bastard)... a $200 ETF is like paying for the luxury of no longer putting up with AT&T. Every month another $20 less that I have to pay them, etc.

3 times warranty exchange of captivate for the sleep/charge death issue; and possibly account history.
As always, be soft, be patient, and be genuine.
I was told I could swap for a different phone in Dec last if the sleep death issue reoccurred (that was the 4th exchange in all -- once a battery and 3 times phone exchange).
Luckily, my captivate survived.

Im so tempted to just pay the ETF and jump to verizon.. its nice to see that att is getting some new android phones. Even though the htc phone has the lowest specs its so tempting because it will have aosp and 2.3 before the new samsung phone.....and unless motorola goes with an unlocked bootloader they will be in the same boat. Hardware specs don't mean much if the software isn't there
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Early upgrade pricing is $300 and most everyone will qualify for that. Sell your Captivate for $250-$300 on Craigslist and be done with it. It will be hard to get them to swap it. I tried.

gtg465x said:
Early upgrade pricing is $300 and most everyone will qualify for that. Sell your Captivate for $250-$300 on Craigslist and be done with it. It will be hard to get them to swap it. I tried.
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The Inspire is available for $400 with no contract. I'd rather do that than pay $300 for an upgrade and be locked in for 2 more years.

Same boat.... random shutdowns, etc. On my 5th or 6th phone. I have device support center near my house, so swapping them out it easy, but irritating. When I called yesterday, they said I could swap it for an Inspire, but only when the warranty center received refurbished units, which could take 30-90 days. I doubt it will take that long. I do not see them issuing new Inspires to anybody with a problem at 31+ days. I would have to guess they will have refurbs within 30 days, but who knows. Anybody know how long it takes for AT&T to start getting refurbs?

I'm also curious to know if i can do this. I bought a Captivate refurbished, and already got a replacement because of random shut down issues. Maybe i'll give AT&T a call tomorrow and see what I can do, anyone think people interested in this idea have a decent chance as long as we're reasonable to the AT&T rep we speak to?

Tried. Didn't work : /

It's good to know I'm not the only person thinking about the trade out, seeing as how the Inspire 4G is marked monetarily lower than the Captivate but of the same calibur I'm sure that it will be a refurb option really soon. The only thing I dread about going through the warranty process is initially getting back Captivate refurbs that have bigger issues than mine over and over again until AT&T finally gives in and lets me choose another phone of the same calibur which is why I haven't sent mine in for the GPS, media scan of dread and shutdown while charging/rebooting troubles but now that they are becoming more frequent that it's becoming unbearable.
Buying an Inspire straight out or having AT&T extend my contract for another year isn't an option I'm willing to take, that would get me stuck with an inspire until spring 2012 at the least - no thanks I saw what became of the Aria.
The simple fact is the the issues with this phone should have been addressed and resolved a long time ago and we shouldn't have to put on a custom rom to get it to a state that it should have been that way out the box, custom roms should be for fun and enhancements to an already good product not band aids to fix flaws that the manufacturer or carrier wont acknowledge and respond to.
Hopefully in a few weeks once people start going through the Inspire's the option to choose a refurbished Inspire 4G as a swap for a Captivate will become available, either that or the official 2.2 comes out then I'll stick with the captivate until summer, after that AT&T better come correct with the android updates and some stunning hardware or I'll be jumping ship to T-Mobile.

Wow, I didn't realize the captivate was having so many issues...5th and 6th phones? My god.
I got my phone in August and its running like a champ with Darky 9.2.

johnnie5000 said:
true. But with all the bullsh*t that has came with this droid and having to take 5 phones to the post office to be shipped back (only to be refurb'd again and passed off to some other poor bastard)... A $200 etf is like paying for the luxury of no longer putting up with at&t. Every month another $20 less that i have to pay them, etc.
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xreflection said:
Wow, I didn't realize the captivate was having so many issues...5th and 6th phones? My god.
I got my phone in August and its running like a champ with Darky 9.2.
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it's true. granted, i've only gone through one phone, but i did have the random shutdown problem, and at first i wasn't bothered by it. it quickly became the most annoying problem ever by occurring more frequently.

I am still skeptical about the whole 4G network with AT&T especially being such crappy coverage service already with their supposed upgraded 3G network. If they said they finally completed their 3G network upgrade and provide this kind of horrible coverage quality, I can't even begin to imagine how their supposed 4G network speeds are as well as the coverage it will support. If i was to get a 4G AT&T phone, I would wait at least half a year to a year to really see how they push their network out onto the market.

I talked to an AT&T rep last night and I think I am goinh to jack the upgrade on one of my kids' line and get the Inspire 4G. I got it for my wife and it was the bomb.
The rep told me the exception upgrade for the Inspire is 199.

I originally posted this in the Inspire 4g General forum:
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I bought the Captivate day 1 in June after all the hype only to be disappointed like many users. I called AT&T customer service about an hour ago and was online with a rep within 10 minutes. I very calmly explained my issues with the Captivate (GPS, rebooting randomly) and asked to be given an early upgrade. Without so much as a question the rep told me he would approve it through his supervisor. It took me less than 30 minutes to have a full upgrade ready whenever I want to use it. That will be in about an hour when I go pick up the Inspire.
TL;DR: If you want to upgrade from your Captivate but stay with AT&T, it is trivially easy to get the full upgrade price.
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Also, the OP says that the Inspire has a front-facing camera, but it does not. Just FYI.

I did it. Love it. Such a better out of the box experience.
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Am concidering making the jump to Verizon

I have been back and forth to Verizon a couple of times this week looking at the thunderbolt ...Right now I have a nexus s with T-Mobile,witch I do love,but am really not game to stick around with disaster that at&t is going to create...so my question, who has gotten one coming from a nexus s or galaxy's and how do u like it? This is one hard decision for me to make,any real honest opinions would be great
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I switched from a Nexus S. The TB is an awesome phone and the data speeds are amazing. Really the single downside that I've found is that the black levels of the screen don't compare at all to the Nexus S, but then again nothing else really compares to the contrast of Super Amoled. The TB screen however does appear clearer and sharper to me than the NS screen. I have no regrets about switching, and my plan is only $5/month more on Verizon than I was paying to Tmo.

I switch from a mytouch 4g and haven't looked back.
Verizon is more expensive then tmobile in every way and luckily my company has a 19% off voice plans so my transition was easier.
Lte is definitely worth it if you can get grandfathered into the unlimited plan.
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One other thing, if you aren't in a 4g area then I don't think I would switch.

I switched from Tmobile as well. I think it is a great idea. I have had both Galaxy S phones and HTC phones on Tmoible ( I had every top end phone that came out between the N1 and the MT4G).
I think that now is a great time to jump ship and get Grandfathered into Verizons Unlimited 4G data plans before they go to tiered. The speeds are Amazing. I mean like 3-5 times the speeds of the fastest speed test I ever pulled with Tmobile. I could get 5-6mbps on Tmo in strong HSPA+ area. I get a minimum of 10mpbs down on Verizon, and have seen speeds nearing 30mbps down and 35+ up. That is twice my comcast cable modem speed.
I think the 200$ etf was worth every penny! The phone is nice and compares to every top end phone out there. It is on the best network in the USA according to consumer reports.
GET IT. I have no regrets leaving TMO. It is awesome I get coverage everywhere now, real 4G and Strong 3G where 4G isn't!

I have the Nexus S and got this device as well. LTE is simply stunning. that being said, I returned the Thunderbolt because in the end, the Nexus S was the better phone for me. You'll be happy with either phone for sure but there are pros and cons on each side and really comes to the individual user. If you are thinking about it, try it out as you have 14 days before you have to commit. Verizon is the best carrier hands down but I've never had any issues with T-Mobile either. So to me the decision wasn't about the carrier but about the devices themselves

I have until next Friday to decide, its when I get payed and will have to sell my ns shortly there after,and yea my Verizon bill would only run about $15 more then with T-Mobile ..
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Yea I love my ns! But....its future is in the hands of at&t and we all know what that means.....
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Come on in the waters fine......

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Yea I love my ns! But....its future is in the hands of at&t and we all know what that means.....
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That's not known yet, it still has to pass some regulatory hurdles and complaints filed by Sprint. Although I hear yeah, the thought of AT&T makes me cringe too.

I just opened a brand new account on vzw and got Thunderbolt. Wasn't ready to give away my iOS experience and AT&T 3G that's actually pretty decent and nicely fills the speed gap between LTE and EVDO. My Verizon plan is heavily discounted through corp employee channel so I really can't complain.
The LTE network alone is worth switching to Verizon.

I'm like gr8Gorilla. I've owned just about every one of TMOs better phones, and yes there was a few I enjoyed very much. After hearing the news last Sunday about AT&T taking over, or wanting to take over TMO I knew it was time for me to take off. I refuse to put a dime into AT&T pockets!
Anyway, my thoughts on Verizon... Hands down It was the best move I've made all year thus far. IT's BIG, it's an HTC, it has good weight to it, and best of all it's F'ING FAST!
Yeah, I'll be paying a little more, but in the end it's gonna be well worth it! Stop thinking about it, and JUST DO IT!

Lol
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[Q] How to switch from Charge to GS2 next month

So I know there is a pool of people like me that recently purchased a Charge in order to get locked into an unlimited data plan. I assume there is also a smaller set of people, like me, who did this despite the fact they would have rather waited and purchased the Samsung Galaxy S2, but were forced into this decision because of the now enacted tiered data plans. With that being said and the recent news of the GS2 being released next month, I want to know if there is a way to switch from the Charge to the GS2, preferably without paying full retail for the phone (or adding a line). Any insight from current or former Big V employees or aggressive customers on how to go about this, if at all?

braveally said:
So I know there is a pool of people like me that recently purchased a Charge in order to get locked into an unlimited data plan. I assume there is also a smaller set of people, like me, who did this despite the fact they would have rather waited and purchased the Samsung Galaxy S2, but were forced into this decision because of the now enacted tiered data plans. With that being said and the recent news of the GS2 being released next month, I want to know if there is a way to switch from the Charge to the GS2, preferably without paying full retail for the phone (or adding a line). Any insight from current or former Big V employees or aggressive customers on how to go about this, if at all?
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theres no guarantee it will be a verizon function (or whatever its called) released next month or that it will have lte *unless i missed a news story about that*
so odds are it ill just be tmo/att gsm versions followed by sprint, then vzw...hopefully the vzw one isnt the only 3g one
but no there is no way at launch you can get one on contract price without opening a new line

braveally said:
I want to know if there is a way to switch from the Charge to the GS2, preferably without paying full retail for the phone (or adding a line).
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Well, this may not be any help to you, but it may help someone.
Best Buy Mobile is the only place that I know that still has a 30 Day exchange policy for Verizon. Unless the GS II comes out the first week of the month you would be out of luck. But you never know someone my be able to hustle one when it releases.

If you got it from costco you can return within ninety days
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I have yet to see any news about the SGS2 on Verizon anytime soon. While it will hopefully be out in the next month or two, there are no guarantees.

My guess is that there will be a flood of used charges on craigslist when the gs2 releases.
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The Galaxy S2 is the device I really have been waiting for but after having 4g speeds there is no way I can go back to a 3g device. As far as I know the S2 will not be LTE.

Ill be keeping my charge. Good enough to hold me off until upgrade comes.
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I'm going to wait on upgrading to the gs2 until some proper reviews come out. And then ill buy one off eBay or something later on.
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timgt said:
The Galaxy S2 is the device I really have been waiting for but after having 4g speeds there is no way I can go back to a 3g device. As far as I know the S2 will not be LTE.
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and you base this lack of lte knowledge on what?

braveally said:
So I know there is a pool of people like me that recently purchased a Charge in order to get locked into an unlimited data plan. I assume there is also a smaller set of people, like me, who did this despite the fact they would have rather waited and purchased the Samsung Galaxy S2, but were forced into this decision because of the now enacted tiered data plans. With that being said and the recent news of the GS2 being released next month, I want to know if there is a way to switch from the Charge to the GS2, preferably without paying full retail for the phone (or adding a line). Any insight from current or former Big V employees or aggressive customers on how to go about this, if at all?
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You do know you didn't have to buy a new phone to be grandfathered into unlimited data,right? As long as you don't downgrade to a feature phone, you could continue having unlimited data for as long as you're a Verizon customer and don't downgrade.

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and you base this lack of lte knowledge on what?
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I'm guessing he's basing that off of how thin it is.
I wonder if that new Verizon Samsung slider that's been wandering the interwebs lately is Verizon's SGS II...

I'm basing it off of not a single mention of LTE in the many many reviews online. We have leaked specs on the entire phone pretty much but not one place mentions LTE.

I haven't reviewed the specs of the gs2. Is it a dual core phone? Have you noticed all 4g lte phones are single core? What I was told by verizon is the lte connection somehow literally fries the current dual core processors thus resulting all the lte phones being single core and also why the droid bionic hasn't been released. To conclude my yapping is if the gs2 is a dual core phone then it's likely to be just for 3G.
Gremlins are watching you...

I bought my charge at costco hoping to either get a bionic or gs2 but I'm very happy with my charge even umrooted... I haven't had the need for a dual core cpu and when I do I want a snap dragon dual core. I
am good
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DirgeExtinction said:
You do know you didn't have to buy a new phone to be grandfathered into unlimited data,right? As long as you don't downgrade to a feature phone, you could continue having unlimited data for as long as you're a Verizon customer and don't downgrade.
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I am a new customer coming over from Sprint. I was not satisfied with their service but stuck with them because they were more affordable and had unlimited everything. Preferred LTE over Wimax and made the switch a few days before the new tiered data plans. I could have gotten a reliable 3g phone for much cheaper, but I could not resist the LTE.

DirgeExtinction said:
I'm guessing he's basing that off of how thin it is.
I wonder if that new Verizon Samsung slider that's been wandering the interwebs lately is Verizon's SGS II...
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timgt said:
I'm basing it off of not a single mention of LTE in the many many reviews online. We have leaked specs on the entire phone pretty much but not one place mentions LTE.
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1. no one has reviewed (or seen) a VERIZON sgs2 yet which would be the only one capable of running lte atm
2. going by leaked roadmaps is pointless as some have said lte others not
3. we will have to wait and see, but that sammy slider WAS lte, and unlikely to be the sgs2...i think it ll be another refreshed sgs 1

Most likely the GS2 will be only 3g. Having tasted 4g on the Charge, I can't imagine going back to those slow speeds. However, I think it'll still be a top seller.
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aznxk3vi17 said:
Most likely the GS2 will be only 3g. Having tasted 4g on the Charge, I can't imagine going back to those slow speeds. However, I think it'll still be a top seller.
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again, these 3g only guesses arent based on anything...lets wait and see
frankly though if it launches before oct the odds of 3g are greater...if its october+ i could see them marketing it as a big release

nitsuj17 said:
again, these 3g only guesses arent based on anything...lets wait and see
frankly though if it launches before oct the odds of 3g are greater...if its october+ i could see them marketing it as a big release
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Thing is, it's most likely to come next month: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...nth-someday-some/&category=classic&postPage=1
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Amazon Has Skyrocket for $.01

For new accounts and additional lines...
http://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=358760...=INDIVIDUAL_NEW&sr=2-7-entd&qid=1321853192283

maybe they need to make room for the WHITE skyrocket.
http://pocketnow.com/android/att-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-pictured-in-white-image

YES, just saw this on engadget and ordered myself up a shiny new Skyrocket! It'll be a huge upgrade over my Nexus One. I'd been hoping for the Galaxy Nexus on AT&T, but that'll likely be $250-$300 on contract... too hard to pass up $0.01.
The deal works great for me since I've ported my number to google voice, I can easily add a new line and the new phone number doesn't matter since I just point GV to the new number. My current line is out of contract so I just cancel it when the skyrocket arrives and I should only be out the penny!

yup returning mine under BRE as soon as the amazon one comes in

That's one cent too much for what that phone's worth. Meaning if you can't use LTE why bother. Might as well get the regular S2.

I jumped on the penny deal from amazon to pick up an ATT one.
I didn't opt for the wireless tethering/hotspot hoping that I can root and get the Wireless Tether App running correctly.
*cross fingers*

Ordered mine last night. Can't wait to get my hands on this beast
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I guess there's no trick to getting around the requirement that you be a new customer or add a new line?
I've been with AT&T for 10 years and have 3 lines with them. You'd think they'd reward loyalty more.

Charles: said:
I guess there's no trick to getting around the requirement that you be a new customer or add a new line?
I've been with AT&T for 10 years and have 3 lines with them. You'd think they'd reward loyalty more.
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Ha ha ha, same here been with ATT since the dawn of time, you'd think ma bell would throw us loyal bellers a bone once in a while....
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EskimoPie said:
YES, just saw this on engadget and ordered myself up a shiny new Skyrocket! It'll be a huge upgrade over my Nexus One. I'd been hoping for the Galaxy Nexus on AT&T, but that'll likely be $250-$300 on contract... too hard to pass up $0.01.
The deal works great for me since I've ported my number to google voice, I can easily add a new line and the new phone number doesn't matter since I just point GV to the new number. My current line is out of contract so I just cancel it when the skyrocket arrives and I should only be out the penny!
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I need to get aquainted with this google voice. Ive been hearing about it for years now and never took the time to give it any attention, lol.
Anyway, I just ordered one today!!! They moved the shipping up to one day instead of 2 day for free I guess considering Thursday is Thanksgiving.
I'm coming from an iPhone 4 and I'm pretty excited to be coming back to Android (I haven't posted here for a while either, yikes. Good to be back).

5150Joker said:
That's one cent too much for what that phone's worth. Meaning if you can't use LTE why bother. Might as well get the regular S2.
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regular s2 doesn't have 4.5" screen, only reasong i chose skyrocket over it.

JFizDaWiz said:
regular s2 doesn't have 4.5" screen, only reasong i chose skyrocket over it.
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This right here ^

Ordered mine yesterday. Will be here today. Only worried I keep hearing that samsung's in house SoC is better and this won't get much in ROM support.
The size, fact that I'll have a LTE phone when it's here & the price sold me though

Samsung's SoC is better but Qualcomm has a better radio. What's more important to you?

The radio, I live in a area that is quick to get network updates so I'm sure LTE will be here sooner than later

Ordered two of these a couple days ago! Bigger screen and faster processor than the standard S II! Just got them an hour ago, at the doc with my wife right now. Tried setting them up but data won't work, gotta take them to a store after the doc. They are fast! I won't miss my inspire haha
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The UPS guy just dropped mine off an hour ago and I am already in love with it. The large screen is drop dead beautiful and it's incredibly fluid...despite comments that it's laggy (though, all phones get laggy at some point, I just think most of those came from people that were s2 processor snobs ).
I am coming from an iPhone 4 but I'm already pleased with this beast (still love my iPhone and iOS but that's another story but I've always loved both operating systems -Android/iOS-). Can't wait to fully enjoy it and set it up however I want/need.

JFizDaWiz said:
regular s2 doesn't have 4.5" screen, only reasong i chose skyrocket over it.
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Who says that you cannot use LTE? I live in the Bay area which does not have LTE (will be here next year) but I was in Chicago recently that had blazing LTE speeds. Yes, AT&Ts LTE network is thin right now but it would not be so by the end of 2012

Damn Amazon sent the phones late yesterday so me n wifey won't get our new phones until Monday... -_-

draztikrhymez said:
Damn Amazon sent the phones late yesterday so me n wifey won't get our new phones until Monday... -_-
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That sucks. I didn't order my Skyrocket from Amazon until 3:30pm yesterday and I already got it today around the same time.