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HTC Touch TV-Out Car Nav Integration.

I posted this over at the other ppc site. I just want to thank everyone on this site. I got a neutered Verizon Touch Pro and have been able to download all the necessary fixes and cabs to get
GPS, youtube working on my HTC TP.
I finally set up my phone to do all my gps, web, and music in my car, a Land Rover Range Rover Sport.
It is connected to a bypass switch that overrides the built-in car OEM nav unit.
I had a carputer (see my other youtube videos) but the HTC Touch Pro kicks ***.
I was dealing with Road Runner and no album art. The bluetooth GPS always needed to be re-paired. IGo does not run in Windows XP, etc.....
With the HTC TP, I have everything I want. I even use W.V.D to download youtube music videos in mp4 and play them on my phone while I drive.
I wanted a HTC TP because of the miniSD, the GPS, the video out and I can run iGo8, Iguidance and Garmin XT.
Here is the youtube video of it in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjnABOFkJZw
Cables and hookup
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pretty cool. I'm quite jealous!

How much did that screen cost?

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How much did that screen cost?
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it's a range rover sport.. I'm pretty sure he says it's his stock screen.
I wonder if it's possible to bluetooth all that data?

I like the charging lights on the Verizon touch pro! The GSM ones just have the glow around the center button.

This solution ROCKS! Great idea and implementation!!!
Try that with an iPhone hahahaha

Looks very nice! I agree with you, these devices are so versatile. The TP is the best pocket pc ever ; )
This is exactly what I want to do in my wife's G35x once I install a double din touchscreen.

mrbkkt1 said:
it's a range rover sport.. I'm pretty sure he says it's his stock screen.
I wonder if it's possible to bluetooth all that data?
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Yes, it is the stock factory nav screen that comes with the car. Car has bluetooth built in for telephony and address book.
You can't transfer video data via bluetooth.

Nice!
im waiting for a RCA switch, as i have my ipod hooked up to play vids though my car screen, cant wait to be able to display them both!

mrspeedmaster,
Do you use the Official HTC TV Out Dongle? If so, do you charge your TP at the same time. I don't have the TV Out Dongle but the Audio/Charger one that came with my Fuze. I noticed when I play music in my car thru an Aux. Input and Charge at the same time I hear feedback.
Just wondering if you hear feedback while you charge at the same time?
Dwight2001
btw, your set up Kick A$$

Quick question.. Which converter did you use to get the signal from USB to RCA NTSC/PAL? I bought a box from converters.tv, and the signal is not grounding right.. Now that I paid up, i'm sure there is no rush to get my problem resolved, lol

norkoastal said:
Quick question.. Which converter did you use to get the signal from USB to RCA NTSC/PAL? I bought a box from converters.tv, and the signal is not grounding right.. Now that I paid up, i'm sure there is no rush to get my problem resolved, lol
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I am using the OEM HTC video cable hooked up to a GVIF adaptor that is made for LandRover, Lexus, and the same one use for the Prius. It is a converter box with 4 AV inputs that overrides the factory navigation unit. GVIF is a connection like HDMI for cars.
As to the other question, there is a bit of a background buzz. I drown it out with the volume. I'll try to shield it better.

mrspeedmaster said:
I am using the OEM HTC video cable hooked up to a GVIF adaptor that is made for LandRover, Lexus, and the same one use for the Prius. It is a converter box with 4 AV inputs that overrides the factory navigation unit. GVIF is a connection like HDMI for cars.
As to the other question, there is a bit of a background buzz. I drown it out with the volume. I'll try to shield it better.
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Thanks... I had a feeling it was proprietary equipment, but just wanted to check... I own a Nissan, so i'm not in luck, RGB nav screen FTL. Thanks.

norkoastal said:
Thanks... I had a feeling it was proprietary equipment, but just wanted to check... I own a Nissan, so i'm not in luck, RGB nav screen FTL. Thanks.
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They have a R-G-B adaptor. Check gnet canada website (google) or search mp3car.com . I've read some people doing stuff with the Nissan 350z and Infiniti G35 so I know it is possible.

Is it not slower then just on the Raphael? TomTom is not the fastest anyway. I mean TV-OUT would be slower as CPU/GPU is working harder?
Cheers
Chris

speaking of in car computers...since my road computer has only some basic functions and a minimal screen i am using my Athena (bought it second hand) and and it's big, touch VGA screen. i can even read and answer SMS when i am catching a red light or even send an e-mail while parking near a hot-spot. no wires. just a simple stand and a hook, and the possibility to hide it when i am living the car. when i wanted to install the original on board computer i was asked for 2000$! so, in my car i am using my Athena with a BT and out of the car my HD.

Sweet setup for both of you! I have a Jensen the one that has built-in Bluetooth and a hookup for RGB. I had the same idea... Use my touch pro as the nav and what ever else I can! Just ordered my TV out cable and now it's a waiting game. It's awesome to know it's going to work.
In the second picture in mrspeedmaster's post it doesn't look like you have the dongle plugged in but you gave both images on the LCD and on the phone... Am I just not seeing it?

You know, I actually feel stupid for wanting a carputer up until i saw this. It just occurred to me, that I HAVE one now, I just need decent video. Only thing missing is touch screen support, but that's not a huge deal.
Thanks for the inspiration!!

Mrspeedmaster...I'm sure you have bluetooth integration for phone calls, but if your TP was only connected via the video out cable could you still send/recv phone calls? I'm wondering if the TP mic would pick up your voice while the cable would carry the caller's voice through your stereo system. Thanks and nice setup!

thedocrn said:
Mrspeedmaster...I'm sure you have bluetooth integration for phone calls, but if your TP was only connected via the video out cable could you still send/recv phone calls? I'm wondering if the TP mic would pick up your voice while the cable would carry the caller's voice through your stereo system. Thanks and nice setup!
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I see what you are saying. My car's bluetooth takes precedent over everything. I had an iPhone hooked up to one of the AV jacks and when I had a call, the car's phone bluetooth system over-rode everything GPS, CD, Aux input. I'll have to try it with the HTC Pro.

Review: Nexus One and Pioneer FH-P8000BT

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FH-P8000BT with integrated Bluetooth/external microphone. No Bluetooth adapters to buy. Mine was $230.00 delivered, prices have gone up slightly since I purchased.
Amazon Link
I am posting this because I know there are lots of people having big trouble with certain Bluetooth devices and the Nexus One. While this setup isn't perfect, it's seems to be working better for me than many people are experiencing with factory car Bluetooth installations, particularly in Nissans.
I installed a new head unit in my car today. I didn't have any way to play MP3's in the car, and I wanted to remedy that, and figured why not get something with an integrated bluetooth solution for phone and audio as well while I'm at it.
I picked a double-din Pioneer FH-P8000BT (with built in Bluetooth, but with an external microphone). It's no high end unit, but it has a decent amount of features for the price, and gets good reviews.
Amazon had it for $230ish, delivered.
Pros:
Pioneer syncs bluetooth for both music and phone with Nexus one.
Once paired initially, the Bluetooth connects automatically when the vehicle is started.
Bluetooth audio quality is much better than I expected for Bluetooth.
GPS NAV voice directions work well over car speakers with Bluetooth connection. This is welcome, as the Nexus One's built in speakerphone is not the greatest.
Phone has priority - incoming call switches to phone mode automatically, muting whatever else is playing.
Pioneer microphone for hands free works reasonably well. Typical muffling of outgoing phone audio.
The PAC adapter for steering wheel controls works reasonably well.
It's rated at 50W RMS, which I am sure is bull, but it's still punchier than the stock radio.
Being able to place the external microphone is a real plus compared to having a microphone built into the head unit. It allows for better placement, and since the mic uses a standard mono mini audio plug, it would be a cinch to replace with another to try to improve the sound. But it's unnecessary because the supplied mic works acceptably.
Cons:
Edit: I was able to finally sync the address book - with lots of persistance. Once synced, it retains the info and you don't normally need to resync each time you connect. Syncs fail most of the time.
No Radio preset buttons. You can scan between presets, but nothing resembling an old fasioned push me and go directly to this channel button.
The menus are less than intuitive - for example you have to read the manual to figure out how to set the clock unless you venture a very lucky guess.
There doesn't appear to be a way to shut the radio completely off. Edit: There is, by pressing and holding a multifunction button. There is no dedicated on/off button that is illuminated, which was the source of my initial confusion.
No bluetooth or radio voice dial capability.
Sometimes playback control through the head unit is lost, even if streaming is still working. If I reconnect, it comes back most of the time.
As I said, this is a lower end unit, so maqny of the cons are really a lack of features because I cheaped out. My biggest beef is the address book not syncing reliably - that really should just work. Most of my other complaints are about lack of controls, but what's there works pretty well. I've gained a lot of good functionality, it sounds good and overall, I am happy to have it. Hands free phone and music with plenty of volume and no cords is very nice. I have a car charger in the event I need the NAV. Now all I need is a good bracket to car mount the phone, and it will be a pretty complete solution for travel.
Note: I am using cyanogenmod 5.0.5.3, and have tested with stock ROM. You're BT experience may vary, especially if you're running something else.

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[*]So far, I haven't figured out how to get the address book to sync to make outgoing calls from the radio. This means that although it's a great hands free setup, you're still fiddling with the phone for outgoing calls.
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Hi, on my car I have a pionner CD-BTB200 Bluetooth Adapter and I also had problems with the contacts. What I did was, create a vcard ( I think i did this vcard with microsoft outlook) with my top contacts, then I installed 2 programs in the nexus, the Astro file manager and the Bluetooth file manager.
Then with the astro I searched for my vcard and I send it to my car radio by bluetooth ( I had to put on the transfer mode on the radio first).
Now if someone calls me and if that person is on that list the name will apear on the radio, if not only the number.
Hope that can help you and sorry for my bad english.

VivendaLab said:
Hi, on my car I have a pionner CD-BTB200 Bluetooth Adapter and I also had problems with the contacts. What I did was, create a vcard ( I think i did this vcard with microsoft outlook) with my top contacts, then I installed 2 programs in the nexus, the Astro file manager and the Bluetooth file manager.
Then with the astro I searched for my vcard and I send it to my car radio by bluetooth ( I had to put on the transfer mode on the radio first).
Now if someone calls me and if that person is on that list the name will apear on the radio, if not only the number.
Hope that can help you and sorry for my bad english.
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Your english is fine for this purpose. Thanks for the tip. I'll give that a try.

Wel, I managed to sync my phonebook with it today, so now I can make calls without touching the phone. Sweet.

It's great to see that you got everything working properly. I have a Pionner headunit that's not too old, DEH-P710BT (last year's model) but I can't seem to get the a2dp audio working. It'll try to connect the audio and then fail. Phone works though. I figure it'd be pretty similar to your deck in terms of the bluetooth hardware and software that Pioneer uses. If you ever happen to go back to stock firmware on your N1, it'd be great if you could try again and let me know. I wonder if it's just a problem with my N1 using stock firmware. Just not sure if I want to root it yet and install cyanogenmod.

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It's great to see that you got everything working properly. I have a Pionner headunit that's not too old, DEH-P710BT (last year's model) but I can't seem to get the a2dp audio working. It'll try to connect the audio and then fail. Phone works though. I figure it'd be pretty similar to your deck in terms of the bluetooth hardware and software that Pioneer uses. If you ever happen to go back to stock firmware on your N1, it'd be great if you could try again and let me know. I wonder if it's just a problem with my N1 using stock firmware. Just not sure if I want to root it yet and install cyanogenmod.
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I am back to stock firmware at the moment. It works fine for the most part. Getting the address book to sync took several attempts and sometimes I can't control a2dp playback properly from the head unit. Most of the time it works fine. I haven't really noticed any difference between the stock firmware and Cyanogen 5.0.5.3 that I can put my finger on with regard to interoperability of Bluetooth and this head unit.
Maybe there is a firmware update from Pioneer for your unit?

Thanks for the awesome review and adding it to the Nexus One radio compatability list
For those curious check it out HERE
-Charlie

Hi everyone. I'm new here. Great review attn1! I am very satisfied with it as well. I have this same exact head-unit and a2dp & phone calls worked perfectly. For example, I could be listening to a podcast on Google Listen, then a phone call would come in. I could then answer it, talk for a bit, hang up, then I Google Listen would resume.
Within the past few days however, I've been having some trouble. Not sure if you've experienced this or not. My BT connection would break. (It doesn't break with other phones) I can't determine what's causing the disconnect because I can't consistently get it to break. Sometimes it breaks in the middle of listening to some music. Sometimes it breaks just before I receive a call which bad because of the laws here in Cali.
The only thing that I did recently was install wifi fixer, but I later removed it. I felt like wifi fixer was messing with my bt... but I'm not completely sure.
On a side note, has anyone been able to get sound to stream over the BT connection? I'm not referring to having the head unit read and play music off the microsd, i can do that just fine. I'm interested if it can tap into the phone's main volume out so that I can hear everything (music, notifications, navigation directions). I could only get this to work a2dp but not through usb.
I'm running the stock 2.1 update 1 firmware.

No trouble with maintaining blue tooth connections on mine, and audio and NAV streaming works fine as well.

[LIST] Post your Nexus + Your car head unit

Hello everyone I just thought we should compile a list of car head units compatable with the nexus one via Bluetooth is peffered and how well it works.
The idea behind this project is to help people select a new car stereo should you be in the market for a new one or just need a new one to work with your Nexus.
My head unit (Bought 5 minutes ago) is the Pioneer AVH-P3200DVD + CD-BTB200 Bluetooth add on for A2DP/AVRCP from my Nexus which are both supported. The reason I did not get the AVH-P3200BT is because unfortunately A2DP/AVRCP are not supported on that unit... Go figure..
Price points
AVH-P3200DVD [$326.16 AMAZON]
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CD-BTB200 [$180 + $8.99 SHIPPING EBAY]
TOTAL=$515.16
I know mine is expensive but its what I love and with the amount of features how can you go wrong?
Use this format best as possible
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Use as best as possible to keep this clean and informative
-Charlie

FH-P8000BT with integrated Bluetooth/external microphone. No Bluetooth adapters to buy. Mine was $230.00 delivered, prices have gone up slightly since I purchased.
Read my review here
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I like it.

aad4321 said:
wow, thats a big increase for just blutooth
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That's exactly why I decided I didn't really need a DVD player. Bluetooth and DVD is big bucks, but his choice is a good one if you really feel like DVD is important to you.

Yes I've always wanted to watch dvds on long trips in my car when I'm sitting shotgun. with this unit I can not only stream music from my nexus one but I also have the ability to stream video so all the movies on my 32GB card are easily watchable to to mention for maybe $100 I could have navigation added with internal maps should I lose my cell phone signal with maps navigation.
Lets just say I've wanted one since I was 16 and I am now 22 and decided with my phone of forever its time
-Charlie

dahui9 said:
.... to mention for maybe $100 I could have navigation added with internal maps should I lose my cell phone signal with maps navigation.
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I never :ever: ride shotgun in my car, and my wife doesn't want to watch video in a car, so DVD is pretty much pointless for us. If she ever changes her mind (I am confident she won't), we have a choice of a few decent laptops with DC power capability for DVD playback in a pinch.
The NAV on the N1 caches maps needed to complete your trip when it calculates your route. As long as you have a signal when you start out, you're good. There is also a market app for GPS that includes maps. Since I rarely use GPS except to play with it, the stock NAV in my N1 is fine for me.

Great information... but maybe this should be in Accessories?
I'm really digging both of the headunits you guys put up... I am probably just going to cheapie route and adding an inline aux jack to my factory setup. 1998 Accord EX FTW!!!!11 (I'm a law student... I can afford a phone, but not a car. )
Edit: You guys should post some pics post install.

I picked up the Clarion CZ509 about a year back for use with BT - works great. ~ $230
Integrated BT, external mic, USB Dongle, AUX in
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_020CZ509/Clarion-CZ509.html?tp=5684
BT Streaming and calls are great - external Mic is wired and run up to the visor (LOTS of cable to easily hidden when ran).

krohnjw said:
I picked up the Clarion CZ509 about a year back for use with BT - works great. ~ $230
Integrated BT, external mic, USB Dongle, AUX in
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_020CZ509/Clarion-CZ509.html?tp=5684
BT Streaming and calls are great - external Mic is wired and run up to the visor (LOTS of cable to easily hidden when ran).
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Great with the Nexus One? If so, that looks like a great value. Amazon currently has it for $169.00.

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Great with the Nexus One? If so, that looks like a great value. Amazon currently has it for $169.00.
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I like it quite a bit. The controls on the head unit work without a hitch (for music and incoming calls).
The phone auto connects and it supports phone audio as well as media audio (so Music, Nav, phone all work very well).
The call clarity with the external mic is quite good from what other people tell me. I make quite a few calls on the road and never have a problem with the caller hearing me or clarity. You can answer/end from the head unit (no issues so far).
Music on the built in app works very well as well as slacker radio (the controls on the head unit work in both apps and music pauses on incoming calls).
The only downside to it is the address book integration could stand to be improved (navigating the address book). I set it up back when I had the Touch Pro but never really used it - it's easier to dial from the phone especially if it's docked than to scroll through a list.
If you transfer the contacts you get the incoming number/contact name on the display - if it's unknown it will show unknown and the number.
Let me know if you have any specific questions.
Hope that's helpful.

JVC KWAVX810 7" TOUCH SCREEN (USB, DETACHABLE FACEPLATE)
Works like a charm with my nexus one. It has a separate mic on the cord that I put on my steering wheel column, people can hear me loud and clear.
You can also pair it with audio tether option to tether music right from N1 to speakers, but I haven't tried that yet. This option never worked with my TouchPro2.

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The NAV on the N1 caches maps needed to complete your trip when it calculates your route. As long as you have a signal when you start out, you're good. There is also a market app for GPS that includes maps. Since I rarely use GPS except to play with it, the stock NAV in my N1 is fine for me.
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This I did not know, but I do not know if the trip I'm making up to hellen GA from Miami FL will be all in one day or if we are stopping. But that is great info!
uansari1 said:
Great information... but maybe this should be in Accessories?
Edit: You guys should post some pics post install.
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Will as soon I get mine in a week or so, I always make a diy for my car info for the www.vwvortex.com
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I picked up the Clarion CZ509 about a year back for use with BT - works great.
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Thats Awesome if you could please inbed a picture into your post of the unit for others to quick reference that would be awesome
-Charlie

bump for being placed in the correct forum.

Some nice devices up there ^^
I have a car cassette adapter (<$3) + mount from ebay ($8)

britoso said:
Some nice devices up there ^^
I have a car cassette adapter (<$3) + mount from ebay ($8)
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What's a cassette? Is that an 8-track?

I bought this for $160AUD, No bluetooth but it has front USB/AUX and a set of RCA outs to feed my 10" Xplod woofer nicely. The front USB works with the N1, but is somewhat hard to navigate through folders and takes a while to display track info. I wouldn't go as cheap as I did if you're looking to get a great new headunit to go with your new phone.

I am looking at
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
I usually avoid sony as they tend to be expensive for no reason, but this one is doing everyting that i need
AUX
BT (Headset and A2DP, AVRC)
USB
not bad for the price. $150 shipped

Those are some nice low budget unit in here :-D

Im still using my Pioneer D3 with Pioneer CD BTB200 Bluetooth since my G1 and its perfect...i can use Google Nav(for traffic and updated maps) and Stream Pandora with it no problem

Dual XHD6425 and bluetooth addon module
The head unit was purchased from Crutchfield for about $50 after rebates (HD radio promo) and the bluetooth addon was another $45 from Amazon. The unit has USB input (charges as well) and a 3.5 mm AUX jack. It also recieves HD radio as well. Has AVRCP support and controls the N1 really well.

I went with a JVC KD-R800 for my daily driver:
It can read the Nexus' phonebook, display received/dialed/missed calls, make and take calls on the car's speakers, stream Pandora, mp3's, heck, even system sounds play over the car's speakers. Google navigation pauses the music and talks, then resumes playing music. It auto connects when I get back in the car, and I just hit the silver dial to begin playing again. It can also skip ahead or back on mp3's and forward on Pandora.
It is capable of matching just about any OEM dash lighting, and does a great job of matching the ancient faded green in my 1990 Jetta at night. During the day I have it set to red.
Oh, and it's got a CD/mp3/wma player and radio. But I never use them!
All in all, lots of features, and I'm more than happy with it, especially for USD 155 from Amazon.

[APP][3.0] PodEmu - connect Android to 30pin iPod docking station or car

About
PodEmu is Android application that allows you to connect your Android device to iPod docking station or your car audio system. PodEmu supports both AiR (Advanced) and Simple modes so you can control your Android music app directly from docking station or from your cars steering wheel. PodEmu uses serial protocol to communicate with iPod docking station so it will work only with "old" 30-pin iPod connectors. Lightning interface is not supported.
PodEmu in action:
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No root required
Display track/time information for currently playing song on your car audio system or docking station display.
Control your favourite Android music app (eg. Spotify, YouTube, Amazon Prime Music, Apple Music) directly from car's steering wheel or docking station remote control
Download docking station color image to android device. Car audios usually have this feature.
Support for Bluetooth serial devices. You can assemble the dongle and connect your android completely wirelessly.
Entirely Open Source You can modify and redistribute as long as you comply with GPLv3.
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Requirements
- Android device with USB host support (USB host support not required if you are using FT311D or FT312D dongles, or Bluetooth)
- DIY cable or DIY bluetooth dongle. Unfortunately there is no ready-to-use cables available on the market so you need some basic soldering skills to assemble your own cable. Read further for details.
Supported Music Application List
PodEmu will support any music application out of the box if this application properly declares notification in notification/status bar. The table below summarises the behaviour of the applications with which PodMode was tested.
Additionally, please remember, that in order support track/album/artist/playlist/genre navigation fully PodEmu need to have this information provided. Unfortunately there is no way to retrieve this information through the notification bar. In the best case PodEmu is only able to gather information about currently played track, total playlist size and current track position. Therefore PodEmu is trying to mimic the rest of the information for the docking station to be able to operate. Please also note, that each docking station behaves differently and therefore final behaviour will be also different. Feel free to provide feedback with your experience on XDA thread or raise an issue through GitHub issue tracker.
ListSize and ListPosition information is very important to be able to see the total amount of songs in the playlist from the docking station and to be able to select random song from list and jump to it. Whenever this information is missing PodEmu will not know how many songs are in the the current playlist and will not support "jump to" command. In such case you will see one album, that contains 11 songs. Also remember, that even if ListSize information is provided, PodEmu don't know track names "a priori". Therefore, first time you browse them from docking station, you will see titles like "Track XYZ" for all of them. However, once the song is played, its' title is remembered at given position. This list is flushed when total count of song is changed or application is restarted.
For more details about supported apps please visit GitHub project page.
How it works
To work properly PodEmu requires to be connected to your car using two separate channels:
- audio channel (obvious)
- data channel (for control and metadata information)
Audio is transmitted through "classic" analog lines. For metadata serial interface is used. PodEmu will not work with usb/lightning cable, because with such cables all information (including audio) is transmitted digitally and PodEmu is not able to interpret it (plus due to Android architecture it might not be possible to properly recognise the external device and talk to it).
Both channels mentioned above could be connected directly using wires, or bluetooth modules. Below you can find multiple options available to connect your Android device with iPod 30-pins interface.
Audio channel can be connected directly, by wires, or with use of BT module that supports A2DP profile, for example XS3868, RN52, BK8000L.
Data channel could be connected by wires. In this case you will need any USB-to-serial interface like FT232R, FT231X, FT311D, FT312D, PL2303, CP2102, CP2105, CP2108 or CP2110. Alternatively, you can also connect it with any BT module that supports SPP profile (except BLE devices which are too slow). For BT you can use modules like HC05, HC06, RN52.
Obviously you will also need to power all the modules up. There are multiple ways to do it. Below is an example of wiring diagram for XS3868 and HC05 modules that are powered up by LM2596, but you can use any power supply that can provide appropriate voltage and current.
Note for all diagrams below: R1/D1 elements are only required for those cars/docking stations where car or docking station expects the pin 18 to be pulled up to 3.3V by iPod. Otherwise it will not recognise iPod connection. R1 is required to limit the current and D1 is added to protect the dongle (could be omitted to be honest). If you are not sure if you car needs it, it is safe to start without R1/D1 and if car does not recognise connection, then just add it.
Connection diagram: Wired
This is the simplest and the most reliable version of connection.
Supported serial interfaces:
FTDI: FT232R, FT231X, FT311D, FT312D
Prolific: PL2303
SiLabs: CP2102, CP2105, CP2108, CP2110
PodEmu was tested with FT312D, PL2303, FT232R, CP2102. Other chips should also work (as claimed by driver developer), but were never tested with PodEmu.
Connection diagram: Bluetooth with HC-05 and XS3868
Bluetooth setup was tested with HC-05 as serial interface device and XS3868 to stream audio. Connection diagram that was used is the following:
Important notes:
- do not short audio ground (pin 2) with power ground (pins 15 and 16). If you do it, significant noise will appear.
- voltage is set to 3,55V and not to 3,3V. 3.3V is normal operating voltage for HC-05, 3.6V is maximum for HC-05. However 3.6V should be minimum voltage for XS3868. When voltage drops below 3.5V, XS3868 will produce audible warnings. To avoid it, but to stay within HC-05 voltage limits it is recommended to set voltage between 3.5V and 3.6V. There are known cases when slight exceeding 3.6V burned HC-05.
- before using HC-05 it need to be configured. You need to change Baud Rate to 57600 (or whatever rate is required by your car/dock station)
AT+UART=57600,0,0
For details about configuring HC-05 please refer to this manual)
- changing device name is not required, because you can choose the device from paired devices list from the application
- after BT module is configured, you need to manually pair with it. Once paired, start PodEmu, go to settings and select your device from the list of paired devices. Then PodEmu will connect automatically.
- serial interface cable has higher priority to connect, so if it is attached, BT will not connect. Detach the cable first and then restart the app.
Connection diagram: Bluetooth with RN52 (basic)
Setup with RN-52 module is shown below. The big advantage of this module is that it supports both audio and serial profiles, so you don't need to pair your phone with 2 bluetooth modules. Disadvantage is high price (~25 USD).
Note: if you use SparkFun breakout board as depictured above, for some reason they didn't made the pad for AudioGND pin, so you'll need to solder to pin 39 of the module (AGND). This is 6th pin from the topmost right side on the picture above. Luckily there is thick copper area below "SPK_L-" that you can use.
There is minor issue with such connection. Due to the fact that RN-52 is using differential output and we are using only audio positive lines, there are electrical spikes few seconds after audio goes mute. It can be heard as single "clicks" few seconds after going on mute.
Before using RN-52 module you need to program it. It is done by connection GPIO9 pin to ground. Then you can connect module to you computer to standard COM port using UART_TX and UART_RX and program it. Commands you will need:
Code:
su,04 - set baud rate 57600
sd,06 - enable only A2DP and SPP discovery profiles
sk,06 - enable only A2DP and SPP connection profiles
sn,PodEmu - set device name to RN52-PodEmu
ss,0F - set default gain level to maximum
Connection diagram: Bluetooth with RN52 (advanced)
For those who has pcb production skills I recommend to use this schematics. In comparison to previous RN-52 schematics, this implementation uses TPA6112 audio amplifier with differential input. Using this amplifier eliminates "single clicks on mute" issue described in previous section.
Note: Don't forget to setup RN-52 module as described in previous section.
My personal implementation of this dongle looks like this:
Reporting issues and requesting enhancements
Please use "Issues" tab on GitHub to report a problem or request an enhancement. You can also report a problem directly from application. For this, just enable "Enable debug collecting" option in settings, then reproduce the issue, and then use option "Send debug to developer". This will send debug file with all logs from application. Don't worry, it will not collect your personal data. However, while sending, please don't forget to describe the problem you are encounting - otherwise your email will be ignored.
Credits
USB Serial For Android: https://github.com/mik3y/usb-serial-for-android
ByteFIFO class: http://www.java2s.com/Code/Java/Threads/ByteFIFO.htm
Android Developer Icons: http://www.androidicons.com/
Question mark icon: http://www.clipartpanda.com/categories/animated-question-mark-for-powerpoint

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If I can help you test out things, just let me now. Still have to build the cable tho.
Also if it would be possible to build a Bluetooth-only adapter (like Tune2Air), I would be really interested in!
BTW, I'm owning a 2009 BMW 3-series, with iDrive and USB/iPod-Connection (Serial+Analog).

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If I can help you test out things, just let me now. Still have to build the cable tho.
Also if it would be possible to build a Bluetooth-only adapter (like Tune2Air), I would be really interested in!
BTW, I'm owning a 2009 BMW 3-series, with iDrive and USB/iPod-Connection (Serial+Analog).
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Great! As soon as you have the cable and do the first tests, please let me know the result. Any help with testing is appreciated!
About BT adapter - this should not be a problem, but BT sound quality sucks so I didn't consider it. However, there are ready to use adapters on the market like this one: http://www.iphonejd.com/iphone_jd/2013/10/review-dockboss-air.html. Before starting this project I ordered one of them (not dockBoss but some other chineese copy) and it didn't work with my car. Maybe you will have more luck.

I will
I don't think BT audio is that bad. I almost don't hear any difference between Tune2Air and AUX (if source media is good quality). And I'm really into good sound quality. Then there's still the option of using a BT module with apt-x codec, which should be good enough
Does dockboss air support AVRCP with id3tags? But even if it does, it will never support browsing playlists I think? And it's boring to use a device which already exists to buy
I know a lot of people who would be interested in such a (Bluetooth) solution, and if it would support of browsing playlists/songs from apps like Google Music, Spotify, etc., that would be so awesome!!! I don't know of any other App which does this...

iCstyle said:
And it's boring to use a device which already exists to buy
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Haha, I liked this part of your post the best!
iCstyle said:
Does dockboss air support AVRCP with id3tags? But even if it does, it will never support browsing playlists I think? And it's boring to use a device which already exists to buy
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As far as I remember - yes, it supports AVRCP.
iCstyle said:
I know a lot of people who would be interested in such a (Bluetooth) solution, and if it would support of browsing playlists/songs from apps like Google Music, Spotify, etc., that would be so awesome!!! I don't know of any other App which does this...
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We can consider building such BT solution as the next step. For now I would like to focus on polishing PodEmu .

I DL'd from the market a few days ago. PodMode didn't quite work for me either, but in all fairness I didn't troubleshoot.
Besides the one problem I posted in the other thread, the display doesn't often update.
If I change the song on the tablet the display continues showing whatever song was playing previously. Changing the track with the car buttons changes the display as it should.
My car is a cheap POS electronic wise so I'm only looking to utilize the display as only the track buttons works.

fr4nk1yn said:
I DL'd from the market a few days ago. PodMode didn't quite work for me either, but in all fairness I didn't troubleshoot.
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Now I am confused. Are you talking about PodMode or PodEmu?

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Now I am confused. Are you talking about PodMode or PodEmu?
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PodEmu* is the one not always displaying the correct track.
*Just stating I tried both apps.

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PodEmu* is the one not always displaying the correct track.
*Just stating I tried both apps.
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Ok. PodEmu is not pushing song info by itself when it is changed. This behavior is consistent with what real iPod do. Whenever real ipod is connected to the car it's screen is blocked and you cannot control music from ipod, only from car. Anyway I noticed that my car detects song change and "asks" about song details itself. Your car apparently don't. This is why I need more testing on different cars / docks [emoji2]. I'll try to add this feature in the next build.

I just ordered the parts I need for the cable, hope to get them till saturday, then I can start testing
Btw, where are you from?

Bought one of these :http://goo.gl/RNoQop, soldered on a USB cable, reverse the data cables, the app now works great with no configuration.
One note is on my tablet when the serial adapter is first plugged in the on screen prompt has had to be accepted for PodEmu or it doesn't recognize the adapter.

fr4nk1yn said:
Bought one of these :http://goo.gl/RNoQop, soldered on a USB cable, reverse the data cables, the app now works great with no configuration.
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Great!
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One note is on my tablet when the serial adapter is first plugged in the on screen prompt has had to be accepted for PodEmu or it doesn't recognize the adapter.
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This is normal android behavior: app is asking permissions to use usb device. If you don't grant, app is not allowed to use the device.
Btw, fr4nk1yn, could you post make and model of your car?

30 pin connector only or USB?
Just wanted to clarify, will this app/DIY cable combo only work on devices with a 30 pin male connector on them, or can I use a 30pin male to USB connector to hook this up to my car stereo?
For example:
Android phone --> PodEmu --> DIY Cable --> 30pin connector --> USB --> Car Stereo
or is this only good for car stereos that have the 30 pin connector built in?
Thanks

TheCrut said:
Just wanted to clarify, will this app/DIY cable combo only work on devices with a 30 pin male connector on them, or can I use a 30pin male to USB connector to hook this up to my car stereo?
For example:
Android phone --> PodEmu --> DIY Cable --> 30pin connector --> USB --> Car Stereo
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TheCrut, short answer is "most probably - no".
Long answer: it all depends on what is your 30pin-usb cable. If you are talking about std cable that you use to connect iPod to PC, then the answer is no. However if you have special cable supplied by your car manufacturer it might work. Eg as you might learn from spadival 's thread Hyundai cars has such dongle.

TheCrut said:
Just wanted to clarify, will this app/DIY cable combo only work on devices with a 30 pin male connector on them, or can I use a 30pin male to USB connector to hook this up to my car stereo?
For example:
Android phone --> PodEmu --> DIY Cable --> 30pin connector --> USB --> Car Stereo
or is this only good for car stereos that have the 30 pin connector built in?
Thanks
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If your stereo supports an iPod connection by USB you can skip the 30pin connector. You just need to wire the serial wires to the USB data pins.
@rp9 I'm getting weirdness but I'm hoping I solved it.
The app doesn't like when the tablet sleeps and wakes continuously. The track buttons starts changing tracks "randomly". Track forward will cycle between back and forward, switching between the same 2 songs, then it picks a track somewhere in the playlist then operates normally for awhile.
I've started killing PodEmu on suspend which I hope fixes the issue.
-Edit: Hyundais pretty much suck.
I think I've narrowed the issue down to PodEmu being connected to the serial adapter but the "dock" is "disconnected".

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-Edit: Hyundais pretty much suck.
I think I've narrowed the issue down to PodEmu being connected to the serial adapter but the "dock" is "disconnected".
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Hi fr4nk1yn. I am not sure if I understood correctly your problem. Can you please describe step by step how to reproduce the issue, expected behaviour, observed behaviour. Also without logs I cannot do too much. Please collect and send them to me.

hey, what about hc-05 support?
and thanks ofcourse!
if you need me as a tester for the hc-05 I can help.

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Hi fr4nk1yn. I am not sure if I understood correctly your problem. Can you please describe step by step how to reproduce the issue, expected behaviour, observed behaviour. Also without logs I cannot do too much. Please collect and send them to me.
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I'll get some logs to you. I don't actually drive the car too much during the week. I'm afraid the logs will be quite large trying to replicate the issue.
I'm not sure what's causing the disconnects.
I'm using Timur's kernel with a N7'13 so when I shut the key off the tablet goes to sleep. Killing PodEmu before sleep made no difference.
Another oddity, that should not be caused by the app but only happens while in use, is Play Music frequently "not being able to play the song".

@rp9 I sent a log. Unfortunately I didn't look beforehand so it has a lot of previous stuff going back to the 31st.
Hopefully the stuff from tonight is of help.

Thanks for the making the app open source. I drive FIAT Punto in India 2013 Model. I would like to understand how this works? My Car supports direct 30 pin USB connection no special cable is needed. Does the app send the audio over usb? I will be glad to help you to test it out with my car.

Question Problem with AA and Carlink fixed on my Navifly M700S

I write this post because i think it will help some users who will be in the same situation as me. However, i take this opportunity to thank @surfer63, @mariodantas, and others (who i do not mention) for the commitment they put into these units.
I have a NaviFly M700S 8-128GB 9", whose manufacturer id = 116 and the uiid = 4, with Simple Soft XP canbus mounted on a Peugeot 308 of 2012, purchased in August 2022 to which I provide internet through the hotspot of my Huawei P30. Since the first days of possession i can say that i am very satisfied with this unit, except for some functions of the canbus that does not allow me to see all the info/error on the screen and that I can not control the air conditioning from the screen of the unit. For the rest, everything satisfies me widely.
From the early days i had AA that worked with USB cable connection but not wireless. But I must say that I never used/tried it because at that time i was not interested in having it that much. I didn't mind that much because i use AA very rarely, i.e. when I do long distances by car. But i was a bit disappointed for the fact that i had a great unit and that i could not have all its potential available. However, seeing that my son with his iPhone 14 could connect wirelessly i tried to succeed too, also because reading in various posts/forums many people with Android smartphones succeed.
I then tried to install various versions of Carlink 2.0 to no avail. Thinking that the problem was due to my old firmware, i updated the unit with the latest Mekede firmware without getting the desired results. Finally, i also updated my Navifly with the latest Joying firmware without results; my P30 wouldn't connect wirelessly.
Thinking and thinking about this problem this morning i started watching various videos about Carlink and uis7268 and i had the enlightenment. I saw a video in which he showed how to get the "developer settings" in AA and from there i set the option "add wireless projection". After that the connection with my P30 worked wirelessly with AA.
So now, from home I can open Maps, enter a destination, activate Bluetooth and Wi-Fi on the phone and as soon as I get in the car AA activates on the M700S showing Maps and making me listen to the radio and / or mp3 music of the media player. That's great.
But now I have 2 problems:
1) with AA enabled, then with Bluetooth and Wi-Fi enabled on the phone, the unit cannot have internet. If I turn on, the hotspot on your AA phone turns off.
2) in AA I can listen to the radio, mp3 from the media player but I can not listen to Spotify music, both because I do not have internet from the hotspot and because among the AA apps, Spotify is not there and I can not figure out how to put it.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Here are photos of the features of the unit.
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Nothing to do, you're casting android auto wireless via wifi (some kind of wifi-direct) and you can't have both hotspot and wifi cast, annoying I know, but I don't see a solution for that, maybe someone here can help ?

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But now I have 2 problems:
1) with AA enabled, then with Bluetooth and Wi-Fi enabled on the phone, the unit cannot have internet. If I turn on, the hotspot on your AA phone turns off.
2) in AA I can listen to the radio, mp3 from the media player but I can not listen to Spotify music, both because I do not have internet from the hotspot and because among the AA apps, Spotify is not there and I can not figure out how to put it.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Thanks for your post.
1) That is indeed exactly how Android Auto does that. It is your phone that is simply extending its simplified screen to the head unit. And in a car with real AA, you still can use the radio on the background (as I do use AA a lot in the rental cars I drive for my work)
2) Spotify should be there. I still don't like AA but in the past weeks I also experimented a little with it, and spotify on my phone, is immediately available on my head unit when I connect my phone. I did that via USB and not via wifi, but that should not make any difference I think. But anyaway: did you try that? Does Spotify show up if you use a USB connection?

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Nothing to do, you're casting android auto wireless via wifi (some kind of wifi-direct) and you can't have both hotspot and wifi cast, annoying I know, but I don't see a solution for that, maybe someone here can help ?
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In fact I had deduced it, and you gave me the confirmation.
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Thanks for your post.
1) That is indeed exactly how Android Auto does that. It is your phone that is simply extending its simplified screen to the head unit. And in a car with real AA, you still can use the radio on the background (as I do use AA a lot in the rental cars I drive for my work)
2) Spotify should be there. I still don't like AA but in the past weeks I also experimented a little with it, and spotify on my phone, is immediately available on my head unit when I connect my phone. I did that via USB and not via wifi, but that should not make any difference I think. But anyaway: did you try that? Does Spotify show up if you use a USB connection?
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I tried the USB connection and Spotify was absent. Except I did a test. I turned off both bluethoot and wi-fi on, restarted the unit, then on the phone I started Spotify. While Spotify was started, on the phone I activated both bluetooth and wi-fi, at that moment Carlink started on the unit and I had AA with spotyfy playing. Now it appears to me among the AA apps

surfer63 said:
Thanks for your post.
1) That is indeed exactly how Android Auto does that. It is your phone that is simply extending its simplified screen to the head unit. And in a car with real AA, you still can use the radio on the background (as I do use AA a lot in the rental cars I drive for my work)
2) Spotify should be there. I still don't like AA but in the past weeks I also experimented a little with it, and spotify on my phone, is immediately available on my head unit when I connect my phone. I did that via USB and not via wifi, but that should not make any difference I think. But anyaway: did you try that? Does Spotify show up if you use a USB connection?
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I can use the radio while carplay is connected in my headunit. Radio stops if I press play button to play music from Apple Music app.

In fact, I read somewhere (sorry don't remember) that this carlink 2.0 works much better with Apple CP than AA
For AA you have a paid solution in the Playstore, named: Headunit Reloaded

mariodantas said:
In fact, I read somewhere (sorry don't remember) that this carlink 2.0 works much better with Apple CP than AA
For AA you have a paid solution in the Playstore, named: Headunit Reloaded
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In fact Mario, my son with his iPhone had no problem and connected instantly.
As for me, I have no intention of spending money on AA, it is enough for me as it is if it works, for what little I will use it.
Small OT I have to see if I can get the unit to make calls, I haven't tried them yet. And I add that on my P30 I have never used "OK Google" and I even believe that it is disabled. Tomorrow I will try.

Spotify needs to be installed on your Huawei P30 to work with Android Auto.
Remember Android Auto is running the apps on your phone and not the Spotify app installed on the heat unit.
You may need to open Spotify before starting Android Auto.
I think the only way to have wireless android auto with internet access is to use a SIM in the head unit.
I don't think there's a way to have your head unit connected to your phones hotspot with Android Auto enabled.
Wired Android Auto works with hotspot enabled on your phone no problem.

j0hn83 said:
Spotify needs to be installed on your Huawei P30 to work with Android Auto.
Remember Android Auto is running the apps on your phone and not the Spotify app installed on the heat unit.
You may need to open Spotify before starting Android Auto.
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Yes I have AA installed on my phone and I opened Spotify before setting the phone wi-fi and bluetooth. After that I finally have Spotify among AA apps..
j0hn83 said:
I think the only way to have wireless android auto with internet access is to use a SIM in the head unit.
I don't think there's a way to have your head unit connected to your phones hotspot with Android Auto enabled
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Yes, you're right. But I don't want to spend money on another SIM. I will settle for using the internet when I don't use AA.

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I think the only way to have wireless android auto with internet access is to use a SIM in the head unit.
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That's exactly what I do, I have a 2nd phone line that I don't use and so put the sim in the car