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Gingeritis where art thou?

So I logged on to see what activity had occurred during the day while I was out... and gingeritis is GONE!!! Anyone know where it went to? Did someone piss Chingy off? I need a case of Gingeritis...
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Mounting your girl...
I mean your drive...

Someone was too lazy to read, flashed his ROM, it wiped his data like its supposed to, and he decided to go off on Chingy so, Chingy bounced.
Sent from my Thunderbolt infected with Gingeritis 3D

Once again the moron that doesn't read ruins it for everyone else.
gingeritis can still be found at themikmik.com

Oh my hell... what a complete moron... Just lovely.
People like that have no business rooting their phones.

Psykonate said:
Someone was too lazy to read, flashed his ROM, it wiped his data like its supposed to, and he decided to go off on Chingy
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SEIZE HIM!!!
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you can find all of chingys work here guys plus many more of our teams roms and mods....
http://themikmik.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=271&sid=e9c50b1707b8dc36ef1abd3945d6b186

yet people say iphone users are immature...

not here...

That sucks how 1 person ruins everything
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Nothing has been ruined, instead of clicking on the link in the thread that would be posted here, which would take you to his forum, where you would click through another 6 different sub-forums, then find the thread just to get the download link.
Now all you do is just go to his site, instead of clicking on the link that would be in the thread here. He didn't stop developing the rom, he just stopped posting the change log here... OH NO WHAT WILL WEZ DOZ NOW?!?!?
He left, it's done and over with, how about people grow up and stop acting like it's the end of the world. If he had just said "I'm only going to post on my site because I choose to do so" everyone would be calling him an ass. But because someone "made him leave " everyone wants to flame someone who expressed an opinion...

g00s3y said:
Nothing has been ruined, instead of clicking on the link in the thread that would be posted here, which would take you to his forum, where you would click through another 6 different sub-forums, then find the thread just to get the download link.
Now all you do is just go to his site, instead of clicking on the link that would be in the thread here. He didn't stop developing the rom, he just stopped posting the change log here... OH NO WHAT WILL WEZ DOZ NOW?!?!?
He left, it's done and over with, how about people grow up and stop acting like it's the end of the world. If he had just said "I'm only going to post on my site because I choose to do so" everyone would be calling him an ass. But because someone "made him leave " everyone wants to flame someone who expressed an opinion...
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Dude, stfu. No one in this thread acted like it was the end of the world. Quit acting like a douche.

Psykonate said:
Someone was too lazy to read, flashed his ROM, it wiped his data like its supposed to, and he decided to go off on Chingy so, Chingy bounced.
Sent from my Thunderbolt infected with Gingeritis 3D
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To be fair, it never said on the OP that the ROM would fully wipe, only that it was recommended, that's a big difference. Chingy and the people involved are all immature.
I was trying to decide which ROM to run, BAMF 3.0 or Gingeritis 3D, but Chingy decided for me.
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Some may agree some may not but the net is no place for thin skin. It takes little effort to be a keyboard Rambo. In my profession hate is everywhere and when the net was young and AOL 2600 was fast I to was there and little if anything has changed. Many forum have a ban or ignore button to remove users from a thread. I very often use it. (Don't know if xda does or not never needed to look). Many also have mods that stay on top of the threads and remove rif-RAF at will but even then people get upset and argue freespeech. Maybe this dev left cause he was tired of needing to police his thread or maybe other behind the black veil **** was going on and this event was just the last straw for him. But being a old fart Ive hard believing 1 troll ran him him off if in fact it was a normal 'poor me' blah-blah troll. Wipe or no wipe to be fair I've not seen 1 roms listed with out a disclaimer stating that said owner is responsible for said actions of owners phone and I know for fact this dev roms thread stated the same. The fact we all have to be thick skined doesn't mean that anyone has the right to flame and talk **** at will. Also I personally feel the disclaimer works both ways. This means to me that a dev or company or any entity which produces a product must accept that not all are going to always love said product and after all if a hot tub manufacturer must display a warning that if entered you may drown then why should a dev her at xda think that said downloaders are any smarter? No one that gets in a hot tub is that dumb that includes parents allowing kids around said tub unattended. The fact is if any of us produce or even give away anything then we accept that someone is gonna ***** about. If we can't handle that then we do need to take our product else where. However if any person finds this unknown land if milk and honey where all is good and as efficient as Al Gores Jock strap then please post said location here and count me in. Hell I'll even pay to move in.
For any noob that made it this far threw this post of diatribe and potential net manners that don't exist anywhere then your a brave soul so read this slowly. You are responsible for your phone and what you install. Wipe everytime even if not told to do so. If a problem does happen then post and ask for help. But know that someone may flame yer ass when you do. Is it right? No. But it may happen. After all what can said flamed do to you? Nothing really. However if you do allow said flamer to contaminate your pixels with meaningless bits of useless data and thus cause you to respond (much Luke this very post) then the said flamer has in fact won. Many here loved this devs work and while xda didn't make the dev it did help make the dev known and by default his work this means we all owe xda not the other way around. POSTING ones work here is not a right but a privilage leaving xda does hurt us all but it may just may hurt the dev just a wee bit more because of the message it sends to others. Then again maybe I myself am out of line for this view. I'm sure if I am then I'll be told so PDQ.
Peace...

cool story bro

g00s3y said:
Nothing has been ruined, instead of clicking on the link in the thread that would be posted here, which would take you to his forum, where you would click through another 6 different sub-forums, then find the thread just to get the download link.
Now all you do is just go to his site, instead of clicking on the link that would be in the thread here. He didn't stop developing the rom, he just stopped posting the change log here... OH NO WHAT WILL WEZ DOZ NOW?!?!?
He left, it's done and over with, how about people grow up and stop acting like it's the end of the world. If he had just said "I'm only going to post on my site because I choose to do so" everyone would be calling him an ass. But because someone "made him leave " everyone wants to flame someone who expressed an opinion...
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It's that time of the month for u huh?
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teamgreen02 said:
To be fair, it never said on the OP that the ROM would fully wipe, only that it was recommended, that's a big difference. Chingy and the people involved are all immature.
I was trying to decide which ROM to run, BAMF 3.0 or Gingeritis 3D, but Chingy decided for me.
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Read it carefully. Your another one who did not read it. He stated it on a change log one of the version.

fgarcia25 said:
Read it carefully. Your another one who did not read it. He stated it on a change log one of the version.
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Regardless, that was what the arguement consisted of. Not many people in that thread showed much class.
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Chingy made an awesome rom. To bad some a-hole had to piss him off. He's had some bomb ass roms and radio leaks. He will be missed on the XDA for sure.

C-Deff said:
Chingy made an awesome rom. To bad some a-hole had to piss him off. He's had some bomb ass roms and radio leaks. He will be missed on the XDA for sure.
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so its ok for a dev to be an a-hole because he makes cool roms???
Not saying that was the situation here, but its happened before.

No doubt, I've only read that a user flashed a rom and got upset because he didn't fully relize/understand the ramifications of the new flash. Chingy didn't seem like an a-hole or diva to me but i didn't investigate his background too much. I just think it sucks to loose a good Dev regardless.

Any SBF for the ATRIX 2 ?

Hello all,
I need a sbf rom for the atrix2.

We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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916x10 said:
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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not a waste of time, just no way of flashing it right now

916x10 said:
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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sbf is NOT a custom rom. its a stock flash.
i dont think you fully understand the bootloader on the atrix....please keep the negativity towards the devs out of here.

As of right now all we really need to use is factory reset if something gets messed up. Custom Roms sounds nice but I'm more interested in overclock this puppy and adding some extra lock screens. *sits and waits patiently*

cheetablaze said:
As of right now all we really need to use is factory reset if something gets messed up. Custom Roms sounds nice but I'm more interested in overclock this puppy and adding some extra lock screens. *sits and waits patiently*
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i think at the moment, as SBF is more important than a custom rom. we NEED the ability to go back to factory...

Sbf is step 1 toward getting the Atrix 2 development friendly.
I laughed out loud when I saw your post on the official moto forum, cheetablaze, it was a good try though.
We don't typically provide these files to the consumers as they are not customer friendly.
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More like THEY'RE not customer friendly.

I was messaging the admin all night and he wouldn't do it. Said he could give it up. But there's no reason to yet. Maybe after an update is officially released he will give it up. I'll keep complaining also lol

cheetablaze said:
I was messaging the admin all night and he wouldn't do it. Said he could give it up. But there's no reason to yet. Maybe after an update is officially released he will give it up. I'll keep complaining also lol
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i was impressed that they immediately locked the thread as well.

Pirateghost said:
sbf is NOT a custom rom. its a stock flash.
i dont think you fully understand the bootloader on the atrix....please keep the negativity towards the devs out of here.
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Did I say it was a custom rom or did you assume thats what I meant? What did I say negatively about any dev? I'll be the first to admit I dont know jack about the bootloader, thats no secret, hence my thread asking why its necessary to unlock it to dev roms for it. Thats all.
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What is this bashing people at xda ? Atrix 2 owners need a sbf and respectable member for providing the sbf is daywalker04, pm him and ask for the sbf. He will ask for some files from your phone and then he will try to locate the file for all of us.
Please keep nice and dont let anyone ruin atrix2 forums like they did at the original atrix forums.

916x10 said:
Did I say it was a custom rom or did you assume thats what I meant? What did I say negatively about any dev? I'll be the first to admit I dont know jack about the bootloader, thats no secret, hence my thread asking why its necessary to unlock it to dev roms for it. Thats all.
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re-read your comment. if it wasnt meant to be derogatory, then fine. you made it sound as if devs owed you a rom, even if it was stock based. i dont think you understand what devving a rom entails. please stop comparing this to the sony you used to have. i can tell you from my experience with motorola, htc, and samsung that none of them are similar....im going to assume that sony would be different as well. just because something works for one device does NOT mean it will work for another. same reason we couldnt get anything really decent over on the atrix until the BL was unlocked. every device is different, some even within the same manufacturer dont act the same as another within. patience, please. i dont know if you noticed, but there arent exactly a ton of developers coming over to the atrix2 side of things right now. we will work with what we have. now that i have my vivid, i can start focusing on tearing up the atrix 2.
916x10 said:
We have no roms, apparently the devs feel it would be a waste of time to build a stock based rom.
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Semseddin said:
What is this bashing people at xda ? Atrix 2 owners need a sbf and respectable member for providing the sbf is daywalker04, pm him and ask for the sbf. He will ask for some files from your phone and then he will try to locate the file for all of us.
Please keep nice and dont let anyone ruin atrix2 forums like they did at the original atrix forums.
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agreed. i came over here from atrix forums in hopes that we could have a nice community without all the BS that took place over there.
i will talk to daywalker04 and see if he can assist.

Pirateghost said:
agreed. i came over here from atrix forums in hopes that we could have a nice community without all the BS that took place over there.
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I agree totally!!!

the x10 forums were horrible.

Pirateghost said:
re-read your comment. if it wasnt meant to be derogatory, then fine. you made it sound as if devs owed you a rom, even if it was stock based. i dont think you understand what devving a rom entails. please stop comparing this to the sony you used to have. i can tell you from my experience with motorola, htc, and samsung that none of them are similar....im going to assume that sony would be different as well. just because something works for one device does NOT mean it will work for another. same reason we couldnt get anything really decent over on the atrix until the BL was unlocked. every device is different, some even within the same manufacturer dont act the same as another within. patience, please. i dont know if you noticed, but there arent exactly a ton of developers coming over to the atrix2 side of things right now.
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LMAO. You come at me sideways based on your assumption and/or misinterpretation and the best you could come up with is "fine"? Not even an attempt at an apology or acceptance of your inappropriate reaction? Wow, ok. Seems kind of counterproductive to your wanting a peaceful forum with no bashing when you're the one coming in pointing the finger at me for doing something I didnt even do. And then you cant even man up and own the fact that you overreacted and apologize for doing so. Sweet!
I've already made it clear my level of understanding of not only the Android system but also the Atrix 2, not gonna rehash that.
Check my resume here on xda, I have never been one of those guys who felt like any developer owed me anything! I'm always appreciative of anything I have ever gotten from them and have even donated to a couple (unsolicited) to show my appreciation for their work so for you to even insinuate anything other ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS BASED YOUR MISINTERPRETATION AND/OR MISUNDERSTANDING of what I said is offensive and disrespectful.
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916x10 said:
LMAO. You come at me sideways based on your assumption and/or misinterpretation and the best you could come up with is "fine"? Not even an attempt at an apology or acceptance of your inappropriate reaction? Wow, ok. Seems kind of counterproductive to your wanting a peaceful forum with no bashing when you're the one coming in pointing the finger at me for doing something I didnt even do. And then you cant even man up and own the fact that you overreacted and apologize for doing so. Sweet!
I've already made it clear my level of understanding of not only the Android system but also the Atrix 2, not gonna rehash that.
Check my resume here on xda, I have never been one of those guys who felt like any developer owed me anything! I'm always appreciative of anything I have ever gotten from them and have even donated to a couple (unsolicited) to show my appreciation for their work so for you to even insinuate anything other ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS BASED YOUR MISINTERPRETATION AND/OR MISUNDERSTANDING of what I said is offensive and disrespectful.
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take 5 minutes.
go read your post again from the perspective of someone thats working on a rom already, then come back here and tell me it didnt sound bad. it sounded resentful that nobody had spit out any roms for you to play with yet.
its people like you that make me want to get rid of the phone or keep all my work to myself.
im done with this conversation. i dont owe you an apology or a rom. from now on, all my work will be elsewhere for the a2...

Pirateghost said:
take 5 minutes.
go read your post again from the perspective of someone thats working on a rom already, then come back here and tell me it didnt sound bad. it sounded resentful that nobody had spit out any roms for you to play with yet.
its people like you that make me want to get rid of the phone or keep all my work to myself.
im done with this conversation. i dont owe you an apology or a rom. from now on, all my work will be elsewhere for the a2...
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There was NOTHING negative about me saying apparrently the devs feel its a waste of time to dev a stock based rom. How you can conclude that I feel like a dev owes me a rom or that im being negative towards them is beyond me.
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Don't bite the hand that feeds you. xD He's really the only guy working toward anything major for the A2 and you're post did kinda sound like it's an expectation that a rom be made for us.

koriflame said:
Don't bite the hand that feeds you. xD He's really the only guy working toward anything major for the A2 and you're post did kinda sound like it's an expectation that a rom be made for us.
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Sorry guy, he's nowhere near that important to me. If I said "koriflame doesnt like milk", does that sound like I meant that you should like milk?
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916x10 said:
Sorry guy, he's nowhere near that important to me.
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i hope you do get a dev that will put up with your attitude, because i sure as hell wont.
good luck fellas!

Desperately need help

Flashed CM 7 Kernel with the Sky Ice Cream ROM. Phone won't boot past the Samsung logo. How do I get into Recovery?
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acles003 said:
Flashed CM 7 Kernel with the Sky Ice Cream ROM. Phone won't boot past the Samsung logo. How do I get into Recovery?
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you flashed a CM7 kernel on a Touchwiz rom....
what did you expect to happen?
first of all, turn off the phone
secondly, go READ what the F you are doing. getting into recovery is basic knowledge and involves 3 fingers..... you need to figure out how to do the rest.

Pirateghost said:
you flashed a CM7 kernel on a Touchwiz rom....
what did you expect to happen?
first of all, turn off the phone
secondly, go READ what the F you are doing. getting into recovery is basic knowledge and involves 3 fingers..... you need to figure out how to do the rest.
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Thanks buddy. Class act.
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acles003 said:
Thanks buddy. Class act.
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yeah? would you like me to hold your hand while i spoonfeed the knowledge thats already available here?

Sorry for trying something new, being worried, and wanting the answer quickly so I can fix my phone. I did find the answer, no thanks to assholes like you.
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acles003 said:
Sorry for trying something new, being worried, and wanting the answer quickly so I can fix my phone. I did find the answer, no thanks to assholes like you.
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this site does not exist for support.
let me repeat that.
THIS SITE DOES NOT EXIST FOR SUPPORT.
you are expected to help yourself around here. watch the video that you are presented with when you sign up.
dont get pissed off at me because you didnt want to do your research and understand what you were doing to your phone. you will get zero sympathy like that.
drop the f'n attitude and teach yourself a thing or 2....

Thanks again for your help. Appreciate it.
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Wow rom manager i guess is dangerous
If people have an issue, and dont know how to get in to recovery. And your very brave flashing anything with out knowing how to get into recovery. Also cm7 kernel is for cm7. Be more careful in the futre or you will be bricked. You lucky this time. Also you may need to odin the stock tar at this point. But flashing a rom again after a data/cache wipe is worth a try. Also you should not nor should anyone be flashing anything. With out throughly reading and understanding what your about to do. It is also adviseable to have knowledge of the basics.

Pirateghost said:
this site does not exist for support.
let me repeat that.
THIS SITE DOES NOT EXIST FOR SUPPORT.
you are expected to help yourself around here. watch the video that you are presented with when you sign up.
dont get pissed off at me because you didnt want to do your research and understand what you were doing to your phone. you will get zero sympathy like that.
drop the f'n attitude and teach yourself a thing or 2....
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calm down. he was just asking for a little help... instead of *****ing at him why not help him out. everyone needs to start somewhere, so he messed up his first time. live and learn.
and OP. glad you got it working read into some more tutorials before you try again.

. Need to just read and understand what your doing before you attempt these things. Is it reallt that difficult to do a little research. Before possibly breaking your phone. And anyone will tell you that same thing. Because thats how we all learned read before hand. Lots of people are willing to help but not if your just going to be to lazy to research

I asked on two separate threads and no one answered me. I go on XDA and other forums over 5 times a day. I dont do coding or development for a living.. just wanted better battery life out of my phone. People are jumping to conclusions that I didn't do research. I did, I asked questions, got fed up & thought, let me just try this.
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You need to go here and read this it should recover your phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348

silver03wrx said:
You need to go here and read this it should recover your phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348
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Thank you. I got it into recovery using the volume keys and I wiped data and reinstalled the sky ice cream ROM. that's all I needed. Other guy just wanted to feel like a tough guy.
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^ i was just about to post the thread that he did ;P
but once you get it all back up an running. take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464

acles003 said:
Thank you. I got it into recovery using the volume keys and I wiped data and reinstalled the sky ice cream ROM. that's all I needed. Other guy just wanted to feel like a tough guy.
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yep. im a tough guy.
why dont you learn a little bit about me before you go and make assumptions like that?
shockingly, i help out a lot, but i like this little thing called 'brutal honesty'. sometimes lazy people need a taste of it every so often. instead of spoonfeeding, it pisses them off enough to teach themselves something or make sure they comprehend what they are doing.
hate it or not, this site is NOT a support site. that has been stated time and time again....its nothing new.
its time to shut up or nut up. plain and simple.
keep calling me names and trying to demean me. it wont work.

Glad you got it working, deff beware next time. Read up on kernels n such any questions we'll be glad to help. I remember when I was brand new to Android period and got a lot of great help and advice from the great community

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Glad you got it working, deff beware next time. Read up on kernels n such any questions we'll be glad to help. I remember when I was brand new to Android period and got a lot of great help and advice from the great community
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That's all I was looking for. Thank you.
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Pirateghost said:
yep. im a tough guy.
why dont you learn a little bit about me before you go and make assumptions like that?
shockingly, i help out a lot, but i like this little thing called 'brutal honesty'. sometimes lazy people need a taste of it every so often. instead of spoonfeeding, it pisses them off enough to teach themselves something or make sure they comprehend what they are doing.
hate it or not, this site is NOT a support site. that has been stated time and time again....its nothing new.
its time to shut up or nut up. plain and simple.
keep calling me names and trying to demean me. it wont work.
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I love thus Guy........
The brutal honesty is something we need.
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Brutal honestly is what every thread has. And what does it turn to? Flaming. Other will get mad and start talking all hard with will all be internet tuff that. We definitely do not need that.
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Pirateghost said:
yep. im a tough guy.
why dont you learn a little bit about me before you go and make assumptions like that?
shockingly, i help out a lot, but i like this little thing called 'brutal honesty'. sometimes lazy people need a taste of it every so often. instead of spoonfeeding, it pisses them off enough to teach themselves something or make sure they comprehend what they are doing.
hate it or not, this site is NOT a support site. that has been stated time and time again....its nothing new.
its time to shut up or nut up. plain and simple.
keep calling me names and trying to demean me. it wont work.
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calm down.
he learned from his mistake. look at that. he wont do it again.
he would of still learned without you chomping on his a**.
and as much as you say its not a support site. its a site for flashing, with flashing people are always going to run into problems, and always gonna need help. so no, it isnt a support site. but yes, it is a site where friendly people can help someone who's having a problem. instead of calling someone out for their mistake, why not help them fix it then direct them to tools so that they dont make the mistake again, we're all human. so maybe he just got his phone and was excited to flash? or was fustrated with his battery life, as he said in a previous post. and he looked up instructions and didnt understand. but this site not being "a support site", he couldnt get help, so he took it into his own hands. i would of done the same thing. just because you know how to do something doesnt mean you get to cuss someone else out for not knowing how.

I to am sorry for being harsh

I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.

Let me start this by saying i am still a N00B, saying that Initially i was also annoyed with all those questions people were asking.. i myself started a new thread trying to clear few basic questions.. but as the time went by realised that the senior community was more harsh than anything else.. the more we teach the more we learn thats what say in my part of the world.. but i believe all is well, all that is needed is that you guys get into serious ICS development once the OTA arrives.. and <3 you guys..
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lkrasner said:
I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....

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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Yeah, but on the other side of the coin, if you are on XDA that means you are looking to experiment, you want to try new things, you need a fast and functional ROM or that mod you like so much or simply want to root it and then there are few who are here just to learn.
But for all this you gotta have few attributes
1. Guts
2. Little knowledge
3. Able to go through few threads before starting anything
4. And last but most important, knowing where the search button is.
This still a n00b saying this, dont get me wrong. I am here to learn, i am getting into it slowly but surely. Thanks to the devs.
Ps: this post os taken better in lighter vein!!!
Speak only when it improves on your silence.

I think it is a huge deal to see a post like this. Kudos to you, Ikrasner! You have been much help to everyone, along with the rest of the devs. Thank you all for your time!

deborshi said:
I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Well it is really not patients that is the problem that we are all having at the moment. It is the fact that everyone now seems to think they are the ONLY one with a certain problem with x, and rather than posting in the thread that deals with x they make a new thread, and then when you ask why they did not search it is always "I searched, and none of the threads deal with MY exact issue".
The issue with this is that is shows a lack of respect for everyone in here, that might be working on an issue, and that person just bumped another thread that might have that or a similar issue in it, and now everyone is reading that new glowing orange thread on the board.
The next issue is that people have to trust us.
Next, it seems we have a new rash of noobs that don't want to listen and then still post a new thread when their issues is not solved in another thread and then keep bumping that thread if no one replies.
Again these are all thing that show alot of issues and lack of respect to your dev team, we are here to help, but the more you guys all help us, the more we can help you.
P.S. I had to post this same thread a few weeks back, because of all the frustrations as well.... see a pattern here.

I know what you mean, its like you cant even blink in this forum, without starting a witch hunt.

I just joined XDA not long ago and I too have noticed a lot of pointless threads. I admit I did post a stupid question before, but I found the answer myself and went back and changed my question. But I did not go and make a new thread about it. I think the issue is A. people are lazy in general, and B. There is so much to try and wrap your head around, and no one wants to brick their device. I only have 1 device and I would love to try experimenting with different ROMs and things, because I am constantly wanting a new phone. I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it. But I have that fear of bricking it and then I am screwed. So for now I will continue to search through different threads and try to learn as much as I possible can before I jump in and try flashing ROMs. I notice some people just try flashing ROMs without really any knowledge then post new threads with the issues that they have. If they would just take the time to read through threads prior to jumping in there would be less of this issue. I just want to Thank all the Devs here that put so much time into all the work they do here!! Definitely the best mobile dev community out there!!

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I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it.
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dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense

souljaboy said:
dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.

I have no idea what section I'm in or what you're apologizing for, but I love you too man.

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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
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TMI, me thinks.
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TMI, me thinks.
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FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller

rdhoggattjr said:
FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller
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I know, it was amusing. But the fact that you're feeling the urge for clarification makes me second guess that was a "joke". (I'm kidding)
That's what we need more of here, people with a sense of humor. I applaud you for that, hopefully the lighthearted approach will carry through with the other "business class" folk.
I sit in the back of the bus, that one being driven straight to hell, if you know what I mean...
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
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im not gonna lie me myself often sleep next to/on it but damn...

maybe if it was a sgs3

Need some info from devs.

hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM

u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch

shardul.phatak said:
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
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Hope i don't get flamed for this

Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.

athani said:
Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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I already know that nothing is guranteed but looking at situation one can atleast judge what is up in store.Right now that dev section is kinda stagnant and devs are upto something in secret and that is absolutely fine considering what moto has done in past.So a small heads up would always be welcomed.

Archmag3 said:
hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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HA! Love the word play there.
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Apex_Strider said:
Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.

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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team hasn't bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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Apex_Strider said:
You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team has bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.

Archmag3 said:
For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life

athani said:
You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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So true.very well said bro.

athani said:
You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
Edit: I really wasn't trying to be a jerk, but when someone - anyone - makes a post, they should expect to have it open for discussion. That's all I was engaging in.
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
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Sir, whatever made you think I was referring to your posts ! Relax

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Sir, whatever made you think I was talking about you! Relax.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.

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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can be befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can he befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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I wasn't arguing semantics. It's something that requires serious introspection among some guys here.

Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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devilhunter47 said:
Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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I think the resale value will be adversely affected because of real or perceived lack of after sales support.
About chance to own a Motorola phone, I think that is less of a consideration as these days, everything is available on ebay India.