Link: http://www.prisonplanet.com/you-read-it-here-first-googles-ambient-background-spy-tech.html
This is kinda disconcerting...
To use that on android you'd have to give the apps permission to use mic etcetera in first place but even so its very bad. Surely they could usr such tech to spy on people which would make the tinfoil hat guys sound less paranoid as it seems a big step down the slope to no privacy.
Dave
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I think google has gone the wrong direction and has pushed things to far. I have not agreed to the new TOS on any google product and will most likely be switching to a phone that supports linux.
The thing that bothers me the most are the apps I purchased thru google market not functioning. Google changed the rules with now way to opt out, not the writers of the software or I. Doesn't seem right somehow. Kinda like buying a book and having it erased off your Kindle by Amazon after being purchased.
Google can go to hell. I've already deleted my G+, switched to Firefox, and started using Bing.
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Google can go to hell. I've already deleted my G+, switched to Firefox, and started using Bing.
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As I understand it if this tech was employed then changing those apps wouldn't matter as the mic would be checked for any ad funded application and presumably any website with googles ads on.
Its important to note this tech isn't used just patented. Lots of people patent such things but don't always use it. Apple for example patented a way to force their products to deactivate camera and microphone with an invisible signal so you could be prevented using your iphone etc from recording or filming things they don't want you to...but they haven't used it yet either.
Dave
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Well, as they say there's no free lunch, you are the product.
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I am newly registered to the XDA but I have followed for some time now. I have rooted a LG Optimus M as well my AT&T Galaxy S2 Skyrocket ( two separate devices...)
I recently switched to the :good::good::good::good:CM9 nightly builds:good::good::good:. Good so far in that realm minus a weird gallery issue.
My real question is what are people doing about antivirus/malware protection on a rooted phone? I have tried AVG and a couple of others, but the interface doesn't really show what it is doing. I also have a Macbook Pro and use Little Snitch for monitoring traffic going in and out. I can approve or deny traffic on a one time basis or forever. Is there also an app that would provide this type of functionality as traffic going out that I have not approved is generally my first clue that something might be going on.
This is my first post (N00bie) so I apologize if it is not formatted like some of you professional XDA members.
Thanks in advance.
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I am newly registered to the XDA but I have followed for some time now. I have rooted a LG Optimus M as well my AT&T Galaxy S2 Skyrocket ( two separate devices...)
I recently switched to the :good::good::good::good:CM9 nightly builds:good::good::good:. Good so far in that realm minus a weird gallery issue.
My real question is what are people doing about antivirus/malware protection on a rooted phone? I have tried AVG and a couple of others, but the interface doesn't really show what it is doing. I also have a Macbook Pro and use Little Snitch for monitoring traffic going in and out. I can approve or deny traffic on a one time basis or forever. Is there also an app that would provide this type of functionality as traffic going out that I have not approved is generally my first clue that something might be going on.
This is my first post (N00bie) so I apologize if it is not formatted like some of you professional XDA members.
Thanks in advance.
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dr.web is the best
onealvideo said:
I am newly registered to the XDA but I have followed for some time now. I have rooted a LG Optimus M as well my AT&T Galaxy S2 Skyrocket ( two separate devices...)
I recently switched to the :good::good::good::good:CM9 nightly builds:good::good::good:. Good so far in that realm minus a weird gallery issue.
My real question is what are people doing about antivirus/malware protection on a rooted phone? I have tried AVG and a couple of others, but the interface doesn't really show what it is doing. I also have a Macbook Pro and use Little Snitch for monitoring traffic going in and out. I can approve or deny traffic on a one time basis or forever. Is there also an app that would provide this type of functionality as traffic going out that I have not approved is generally my first clue that something might be going on.
This is my first post (N00bie) so I apologize if it is not formatted like some of you professional XDA members.
Thanks in advance.
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Ello, be warned that once you post you can't stop. I don't have any real input as I just install AVG and use common sense to not download ****ty apps. So I'll probably learn some good things.
+1 on Dr. Web
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Fo sho
I try not to install "****ty apps". I went on the play store and looked at the dr.web app the previous person suggested. I see a lot of negative feedback on that app... Works, doesn't work, won't uninstall, blah blah blah.... I think I will see what others post about this issue and make the best informed decision I possibly can...
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Ello, be warned that once you post you can't stop. I don't have any real input as I just install AVG and use common sense to not download ****ty apps. So I'll probably learn some good things.
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I use lookout
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Welcome to xda also !
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I try not to install "****ty apps". I went on the play store and looked at the dr.web app the previous person suggested. I see a lot of negative feedback on that app... Works, doesn't work, won't uninstall, blah blah blah.... I think I will see what others post about this issue and make the best informed decision I possibly can...
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some of those people are idiots on there haha but also they may have a phone thats incompatible with the app whereas the skyrocket is compatible.. Ive pretty much tried every anti virus and dr.web is hands down the best and has very little battery usage
EDIT: the people that have uninstall issues probably forgot that they gave the app device administrative access... which you have to turn off to uninstall
I don't use antivirus I just pay attention to comments look at authors other apps and look up similar apps mind you I take these steps for not so well known apps common sense is key my friend just like with a computer
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Agreed...
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some of those people are idiots on there haha but also they may have a phone thats incompatible with the app whereas the skyrocket is compatible.. Ive pretty much tried every anti virus and dr.web is hands down the best and has very little battery usage
EDIT: the people that have uninstall issues probably forgot that they gave the app device administrative access... which you have to turn off to uninstall
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I agree, a lot of people are idiots on the play store. I am not saying it is a bad product, I am going to check out all responses to my posting and see what works best. I don't even mind paying for the app if it truly does what it says.
I was reading an article on my Flipbook (Google>>Don't get faked by Android antivirus apps<<) the other day that said a lot of the Android A/V apps miss a lot of malware. I know these apps can't catch every iteration but really??? 50%??? That is horrible...
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I agree, a lot of people are idiots on the play store. I am not saying it is a bad product, I am going to check out all responses to my posting and see what works best. I don't even mind paying for the app if it truly does what it says.
I was reading an article on my Flipbook (Google>>Don't get faked by Android antivirus apps<<) the other day that said a lot of the Android A/V apps miss a lot of malware. I know these apps can't catch every iteration but really??? 50%??? That is horrible...
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this is the best article actually its a study seperates the boys from then men in android virus protection lol scroll down to the page with test results like 8 pages down haha I just checked and it was 8.. with the colored bars on the right side
http://www.av-test.org/fileadmin/pdf/avtest_2012-02_android_anti-malware_report_english.pdf
I use Avast.
Tried AVG, Lookout.... Presently evaluating Avast, so far it's good but it seems to take a long time to scan new apps & updates, not sure if that's good or bad?
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Guitarboarder28 said:
this is the best article actually its a study seperates the boys from then men in android virus protection lol scroll down to the page with test results like 8 pages down haha I just checked and it was 8.. with the colored bars on the right side
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This is the same report as the article I mentioned. Good, I am on the right track then...
I installed Dr.Web, but immediately presented with a purchase page. :crying:
I looked over the results of the test and settled on Lookout for now. It seems when I install any app, it will automatically scan that app for me... I like that approach. I may purchase it later... maybe...
I will let you know if I run into any problems with that one... I have to say if you don't have some sort of Antivirus, you may be asking for problems... Seems with rooting and modding that we are doing, you never REALLY know what someone has programmed into a mod or app. I still want something like Little Snitch that monitors all inbound/outbound traffic and lets me decide whether to allow/deny connections....
Would be a nice feature in my mind...
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onealvideo said:
This is the same report as the article I mentioned. Good, I am on the right track then...
I installed Dr.Web, but immediately presented with a purchase page. :crying:
I looked over the results of the test and settled on Lookout for now. It seems when I install any app, it will automatically scan that app for me... I like that approach. I may purchase it later... maybe...
I will let you know if I run into any problems with that one... I have to say if you don't have some sort of Antivirus, you may be asking for problems... Seems with rooting and modding that we are doing, you never REALLY know what someone has programmed into a mod or app. I still want something like Little Snitch that monitors all inbound/outbound traffic and lets me decide whether to allow/deny connections....
Would be a nice feature in my mind...
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As long as you're not side loading apps and pay attention to the permissions that's all good.
You also have to not use open networks where they can poison and intercept your info. I stay off those and don't side load.
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Side Loading
xcrazydx said:
As long as you're not side loading apps and pay attention to the permissions that's all good.
You also have to not use open networks where they can poison and intercept your info. I stay off those and don't side load.
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Yeah, I don't do side loads. Like sticking a random memory stick in your computer...
I only load from the play store. I do however wish I could have Google Wallet without hacking other than root or CM9...
LBE privacy guard.
I've used it for a long while now. Clean, simple, and only presents me with a super user style allow/deny for permission requests. It let's you enable or disable internet connectivity for an app, but not specific requests to specific hosts like little snitch. Its great for other permissions too, locations, contact lists, etc.
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Perfect!
emmellst said:
LBE privacy guard.
I've used it for a long while now. Clean, simple, and only presents me with a super user style allow/deny for permission requests. It let's you enable or disable internet connectivity for an app, but not specific requests to specific hosts like little snitch. Its great for other permissions too, locations, contact lists, etc.
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Exactly what I was looking for!
Thanks thanks thanks!!!!
Until now, I still don't understand why Android doesn't have a built-in features for missed calls/sms and reject list to auto decline unwanted calls. My old Galaxy S Fascinate has the reject list feature but not in my Galaxy Nexus.
And I used to use Missed Call Reminder but it doesn't work with Jelly Bean. Sigh! JB is awesome but these simple, yet crucial, features are either missing or hard to find ones that work.
Especially the missed call/SMS features, this is a no brainer feature that even a standard cell phone has it. IOS has it, why Android can't just have it built-in. I just don't get it.
Thoughts anyone?
Ken
Pretty much everyone I know uses the LED notification light for missed calls and texts, since that's what it was made to do.
I personally don't get calls I don't want, but if you like to post your number online and not pay your bills, there are many, many apps available to block calls for you. Or hell, MIUI has it built in. Take your pick.
So what was the problem again?
knguncle3 said:
Until now, I still don't understand why Android doesn't have a built-in features for missed calls/sms and reject list to auto decline unwanted calls. My old Galaxy S Fascinate has the reject list feature but not in my Galaxy Nexus.
And I used to use Missed Call Reminder but it doesn't work with Jelly Bean. Sigh! JB is awesome but these simple, yet crucial, features are either missing or hard to find ones that work.
Especially the missed call/SMS features, this is a no brainer feature that even a standard cell phone has it. IOS has it, why Android can't just have it built-in. I just don't get it.
Thoughts anyone?
Ken
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I don't know it for sure. but my guess is Apple probably has it patented? From what I understand Google has to deliberately workaround many design challenges so that Android doesn't violate Apple's patents
Apple just filed another lawsuit against Samsung trying to get 22 more phones banned for patent violations. Sigh.
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Phalanx7621 said:
Apple just filed another lawsuit against Samsung trying to get 22 more phones banned for patent violations. Sigh.
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Samsung can stop the production of iphone screens, and what 22 phones?
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Some Roms offer that feature.
Try EXTREME CALL BLOCKER from the market. It's not free but works like I needed it to.
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I don't know it for sure. but my guess is Apple probably has it patented? From what I understand Google has to deliberately workaround many design challenges so that Android doesn't violate Apple's patents
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yeah, you could be right. If that's true, then this is yet another ridiculous patent that got passed. Prior to smartphones, every cell phones have these basic features. Sigh.
I understand the Galaxy Nexus has led indicator but I don't usually stare at my phone all day. So I'm used to hearing a reminder tone of any missed call or text. I guess I just have to wait until developers get up to speed with Jelly Bean.
Find an app for it.
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Find an app for it.
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Hey buddy read my orig. post, I've tried already. Example, I used to use Missed Call Reminder but like most other apps that are similar, it doesn't work with Jelly Bean. The LED part works, but no tone. Feel free to educate me with ones that works with tone notification.
As per the reject call feature, I end up using the contact list method and send them to voicemail. Not 100% whether this method will cost me some minor air time or not but these solicited calls will hang up by itself, as most of these calls use an auto-dialer. It will only transfer to a live agent if the dialer detects a real human voice, as suppose to a voicemail recording. Not as good as just decline the call completely but it will do for now.
Have you tried Mr. Number on the Play Store? I use it.
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iKoolkid said:
Samsung can stop the production of iphone screens, and what 22 phones?
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Sharp is the company making the screens for the iPhone 5 and LG for the iPhone 4s.
Shawn said:
Have you tried Mr. Number on the Play Store? I use it.
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Yes I have but after I read the terms and condition, I don't feel comfortable using it. This app will take all your contacts and store them into their server. Even the paid version does this too. It seems like a very powerful app but I'm not willing to sacrifice my personal information for this feature. I've looked at others and they work similar way. All I want is a similar app that identifies the phone of incoming call and compare it to a local rejected list of numbers. If it matches, then just decline the call. I'm not a developer but I can't imagine that this would be very tough.
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Yes I have but after I read the terms and condition, I don't feel comfortable using it. This app will take all your contacts and store them into their server. Even the paid version does this too. It seems like a very powerful app but I'm not willing to sacrifice my personal information for this feature. I've looked at others and they work similar way. All I want is a similar app that identifies the phone of incoming call and compare it to a local rejected list of numbers. If it matches, then just decline the call. I'm not a developer but I can't imagine that this would be very tough.
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I think the only way it stores your contacts is if you use the caller id, which I don't use.
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My biggest ponderment is why the default keyboard is so horrible. SwiftKey is so much better
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Android is pure, other vendors ( HTC, Samsung and etc.) throw their own little twist on Android. Anything Nexus is pure Google Android.
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One of the reasons I left iphone was over so many missing essentials.
Bagbug said:
Sharp is the company making the screens for the iPhone 5 and LG for the iPhone 4s.
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Well samsung I think made the iPad screens
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One of the reasons I left iphone was over so many missing essentials.
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I've heard both sides make that argument. I'm Android through & through, but apple makes a compelling ecosystem. People always say "It just works..." but at what cost? There are apps for everything in both IOS & Android worlds, but as far as I'm concerned, there's less big brother restricting what I can do with my android. Sure, there's some more work at times, but it's completely worth the effort not to be stuck with someone else deciding what apps I can install, and how I have to use my phone.
aka_bigred said:
Sure, there's some more work at times, but it's completely worth the effort not to be stuck with someone else deciding what apps I can install, and how I have to use my phone.
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I know I feel stuck when I get a phone with carrier branded apps that I can't remove. Do you see a difference between these two practices? It seems to me if one wants full control of their phone, one must jailbreak or root. Do you agree or disagree?
So as much as I love android there is one thing that I kinda of envy when it comes to blackberrys and Iphones and and that would be bbm/imessages. Now im well aware there are apps out there like gtalk or chaton which acts like imessages but I personally would like to see this built into the messaging app itself. I am no developer or anything but it seems that imessages works on the device when it is linked towards the email used for the app store so would it not be easy for google to implement this into their os? I mean on the start up of each android device it does ask you for your gmail password so I was just thinking that this just may be a really nice feature to come out with key lime pie or something. Does anyone else feel this way?
Is this any different from Google Talk? Instant Messaging tied to the Gmail account, rather than the phone number. It's just not as immensely popular.
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Is this any different from Google Talk? Instant Messaging tied to the Gmail account, rather than the phone number. It's just not as immensely popular.
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Well thats the thing. GTalk is perfect but for example all of my friends who own android products havent even heard of it. Im just thinking if google linked GTalk to a phone number then it could be good.
I agree. This would be amazing.
Yes that would be awesome
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So I guess a better question is what are the odds of this actually being implemented into the next update?
I have to admit that I do miss bbm from when I used blackberry's. But besides that mild feeling of exclusivity I don't really think its much different thn just texting
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I have to admit that I do miss bbm from when I used blackberry's. But besides that mild feeling of exclusivity I don't really think its much different thn just texting
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Ya i hear ya. I guess the only reason I feel something like Imessages would be helpful is because if we are in places with almost no service but there is wifi it would be pretty amazing. Then again i would be scared for samsung or google to implement this because the last thing we need is another apple lawsuit haha
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So I guess a better question is what are the odds of this actually being implemented into the next update?
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1 in 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.
if google would make it part of the steup wizard and allow images/sounds to be transferred over gtalk, it would be amazing.
Recently Google put a notice in my phone that they were discontinuing Google Latitude and if I wanted to continue using similar location service I would need to go to Google+
I don't like being funneled into places I have no interest in going.
What other service (besides Google Reader) will they suddenly pull the rug out from their users?
I don't like Microsoft because of their monopolistic intent nor Apple for similar reasons.
That leaves Linux or Firefox and when there will be a decent phone sporting either os I will jump on it
They killed Latitude? *victory dance*
It ate battery, it kept track of you...
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ShadowLea said:
They killed Latitude? *victory dance*
It ate battery, it kept track of you...
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Surely you didn't think this out.
Latitude wasn't killed.
It was mearly moved to Google+.
This is one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen.
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They decided to stop supporting it. That isn't exactly a "evil corporation" move, you can still download whatever GPS app you want.
ShadowLea said:
They killed Latitude? *victory dance*
It ate battery, it kept track of you...
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You do realize it could be turned off right? And from my recollection it was opt-in....
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They decided to stop supporting it. That isn't exactly a "evil corporation" move, you can still download whatever GPS app you want.
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Yeah,
they decided to stop supporting it but only to get you to use Google+ and also to get you to persuade all the friends you have on your latitude list to also join Google+.
Yes, there are other share location applications but it is a hassle to start all over again after "do no evil" Google pulls the rug from under you.
What other services will Google discontinue in order to get you to move where they want you to?
I get what you mean. I don't really want to be forced to use services either. I know I don't have any interest, at least for now, to use Google+
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Surely you didn't think this out.
Latitude wasn't killed.
It was mearly moved to Google+.
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I know, I was over dramatising in response to the original post's "the world is ending by the hands of the evil overlord" attitude.
BPinard said:
You do realize it could be turned off right? And from my recollection it was opt-in....
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Yes, and every other update turned it back on inside google maps, leading to yet another few thousand complaints about "crap phone dies in 7 hours" on tech-support helpdesks...
As for opt in, locationservices doesnt work without latitude anymore on Maps. Hasnt for a while now.
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Recently Google put a notice in my phone that they were discontinuing Google Latitude and if I wanted to continue using similar location service I would need to go to Google+
I don't like being funneled into places I have no interest in going.
What other service (besides Google Reader) will they suddenly pull the rug out from their users?
I don't like Microsoft because of their monopolistic intent nor Apple for similar reasons.
That leaves Linux or Firefox and when there will be a decent phone sporting either os I will jump on it
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Dude grow up seriously. I can't believe what I'm reading. But I guess it's your opinion..... Bye.
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The fact that you own and test a cellular tracking device.......why are you surprised?
bbrad said:
This is one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen.
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+1000
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FYI
In case you didn't know (or haven't noticed yet)...these are the permissions currently required by "Google Play Services.apk"...and other shared Google services:
...enjoy Google Now - the best federal reporting service!!!
nacos said:
FYI
In case you didn't know (or haven't noticed yet)...these are the permissions currently required by "Google Play Services.apk"...and other shared Google services:
...enjoy Google Now - the best federal reporting service!!!
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Honestly, who cares. The entire point of these permissions was to help compartmentalize Android and cut down on fragmentation. Don't like it? Switch to Blackberry or Apple. Hear they're doing well.
The first thing I do when flashing a rom is completely remove Google now. Not only does it completely drain your battery but it makes the phone slow/laggy.
Capt said:
The first thing I do when flashing a rom is completely remove Google now. Not only does it completely drain your battery but it makes the phone slow/laggy.
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Doesn't do any of that on my phone.
Hey, after you've removed every Google app don't forget to wear your tinfoil helmet!
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If you don't want anything to do with the government. Don't use a computer anymore, don't use a phone anymore, go live out in the woods with no electronics then you won't be targeted. Your only a small percentage of the millions of people in the US is worried about. Don't like them watching or spying on you? Simple as not having a carbon footprint anymore if you can live with that.
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Didn't you know that google is planning on making Skynet? Already on the way to the Terminator. They acquired Boston Dynamics, and track pretty much everything about everyone ever. Oops I used G+ to sign in Google don't watch me
So much fail
So much waste
So much end
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