http://m.facebook.com/HTC
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Ok, since HTC won't answer our questions for an ICS Update. Why don't we just constantly ask them on Facebook? I feel that everybody on XDA want ICS. If we get an Offical ICS Kernel. We can have a massive jump on Deving. Proper soucre for 1080p video, fullying working AOSP roms. What else is there to do? Wait? If we stay quite, they'll think we sont care. We need to let them know we want ICS. So I ask of all the XDA Doubleshot users. Just constantly ask HTC for ICS on the Mytouch 4G Slide. Ask a lot, ask 10 times a day. Ask 1000 if you can. If 10 people post 5 times that's 50 post. 50 post HTC will see knowing we want, and need ICS.
I thank those who will do this. Let's help our devs out, and get those AOSP lovers a fully working Rom.
i agree with you altough i don't use facebook.
but anyway the point is that just staying quiet won't do any good to us, we have to make them know we actually want ICS because from the looks of it, they have no intention of updating our phone
I thought it was up to T-mo though not HTC. So would this really do anything?
ICS is T-Mobile's fault, not HTC's. HTC can only release an update if T-Mobile calls for it.
tl;dr: Spam T-Mobile for ICS
both t-mobile and htc are involved in the decision, but the work is done 100% by htc
anyway, i don't think we would get something out of t-mobile but maybe from htc yes.
i would point out that while it's a t-mobile branded phone it still has the HTC logo on the back and wasn't HTC one of the companies that adhered to the Google initiative to keep phones updated for atleast 18 months from release ?
those are the points to work on, hit HTC's pride and *maybe* we could get something back. T-mobile couldn't care less imo
i just asked t mobile on their Facebook page and they said this T-Mobile is committed to enhancing customers’ experience with our devices, including providing upgrades to the latest Android operating system -- Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). We are actively working with our OEM partners to ensure that a number of eligible T-Mobile devices are upgraded to Android 4.0 in the coming months and will communicate updates as we have additional details to share. ^CL
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i just asked t mobile on their Facebook page and they said this T-Mobile is committed to enhancing customers’ experience with our devices, including providing upgrades to the latest Android operating system -- Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). We are actively working with our OEM partners to ensure that a number of eligible T-Mobile devices are upgraded to Android 4.0 in the coming months and will communicate updates as we have additional details to share. ^CL
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At least a 1Ghz Processor [X]
More than 512Mb Ram [X]
Atleast than 400Mb of System Mem. [X]
Some basic things needed for ICS. So we are in the ranks of an upgrade. If T-Mobile gives us a ICS update I'll never use another carrier for the rest of my life.
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At least a 1Ghz Processor [X]
More than 512Mb Ram [X]
Atleast than 400Mb of System Mem. [X]
Some basic things needed for ICS. So we are in the ranks of an upgrade. If T-Mobile gives us a ICS update I'll never use another carrier for the rest of my life.
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don't get too excited. that's just some standard PR response. We should keep going until we get some official and specific information about our phone
Everybody do what I did and ask them to leak us out a ROM.
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Good news? The newest update coming on March 19th (Tomorrow) is a major fix. Making the stock very usable. The same update is coming to the Mytouch 4G, being th last it will get. T-Mobile is still going to update our phone. Since this new update is going to fix all bugs. That only means a OS update can come. So those on stock roms have a nice update coming.
Also we have hope now. Mabey we'll get a leak??
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I thought it was up to T-mo though not HTC. So would this really do anything?
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It is handled by T-Mobile. HTC might already be developing an ICS ROM for our phone, but their lips are sealed until they get word from T-Mobile that they are allowed to release it or even announce it. Even then, such an announcement would be done by T-Mobile anyways.
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both t-mobile and htc are involved in the decision, but the work is done 100% by htc
anyway, i don't think we would get something out of t-mobile but maybe from htc yes.
i would point out that while it's a t-mobile branded phone it still has the HTC logo on the back and wasn't HTC one of the companies that adhered to the Google initiative to keep phones updated for atleast 18 months from release ?
those are the points to work on, hit HTC's pride and *maybe* we could get something back. T-mobile couldn't care less imo
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And same thing with the myTouch 4G. They got updates slower than a pig through molasses. They're still getting one last update after being released for 16 months. It took them forever to get Gingerbread, but they still got it eventually. No need to be so negative. The MT4GS hasn't even been out for a year.
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Good news? The newest update coming on March 19th (Tomorrow) is a major fix. Making the stock very usable. The same update is coming to the Mytouch 4G, being th last it will get. T-Mobile is still going to update our phone. Since this new update is going to fix all bugs. That only means a OS update can come. So those on stock roms have a nice update coming.
Also we have hope now. Mabey we'll get a leak??
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We'll probably get an ICS ROM, but don't expect it any time soon.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/03/main...for-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-and-mytouch-4g-slide/
If you look at the update it is the paused mr that messed up the HTC unlocker. But it will fix somethings.
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At least a 1Ghz Processor [X]
More than 512Mb Ram [X]
Atleast than 400Mb of System Mem. [X]
Some basic things needed for ICS. So we are in the ranks of an upgrade. If T-Mobile gives us a ICS update I'll never use another carrier for the rest of my life.
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Honestly, that's almost every device since ye olde Nexus One. That doesn't mean a thing. HTC and T-Mobile damn well know our phone can handle anything they throw at it.
Posted on HTC's wall. Although I think emailing HTC and T-Mobile directly will be much more effective. Facebook posts are good for publicity, but no one at either company is actively reading them.
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WOW, ok maybe I was wrong about them replying. Commented back on my wall post about 10 mins later
Hey, XXXX. We're still working on our portfolio to see which devices are suitable for the upgrade. We will have more information in the coming weeks. You can check out our latest note on ICS here: http://bit.ly/yTJiXX.
i will do this since im in love with ics!!!!!!
That's probably helpful, it is true that everything is assumed to be fine unless people say otherwise, I wouldn't prioritize a project I didn't think anyone cared about (from a business standpoint)
I don't have a facebook, and don't intend on getting one, but I know some people who do and can probably talk them into posting an occasional message about it.
Just try to be polite and inquisitive, don't use profanity, and use real words and not internet shorthand ( lol...omg...and other childish crap like that).
You are interacting with a business and in a business sense, the customer-manufacturer relationship is a business one, you're not talking to your friends on your couch.
If you are gonna do it, might as well try to be as successful as possible and being rude, crude and posting hateful or illegible messages will have a negative impact on your campaign. Not saying you are, but just putting it out there for the people who will read through this and act on the thread.
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... If T-Mobile gives us a ICS update I'll never use another carrier for the rest of my life...
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After all the recent back and forth between T-Mobile customer 'service' and myself I am so thoroughly disgusted with T-Mo from a customer standpoint that i'm more then casually running the numbers on the best way to sever our relationship.
I've worked a call center before, i'm always polite and patient over the phone, and AgentCherryColla I see myself in that quoted line - don't ask for much and set a low-bar for the 'i'm a loyal customer' mark... so that as long as they don't rock the boat it's smooth sailing. But...
...given that I still have at least one MORE customer service call ahead of me to continue working out my issues with them and what the last few have been like ... I really hope it doesn't come down to T-Mobile deciding to do something for their customers. In my experience that goes completely against their company philosophy... this is at least what they've taught me from direct interaction.
I think as soon as I can orchestrate it i'll be on simple mobile or someone like that instead (as opposed to 'in addition to').
I've got more faith in tbalden primarily right now, but also anyone else from the open source community that puts time into bringing us ICS from source. What we really need is ICS kernel source from HTC so getting through to HTC is an important step, they can encourage T-Mobile to give the nod a lot more then we can.
Hate to be the squeaky wheel just to get some grease, but HTC customer service is the complete polar opposite of T-Mobile. HTC has done everything possible, above and beyond, every time i've had to interact with them. Stellar company and I highly recommend them to everyone I meet...and i'm done paying them so they already got THEIR money, yet still do their best to treat me well and help me out. I wish more companies were like that, they're getting harder and harder to find.
Definitely not trying to be negative, and all we need is HTC ICS kernel source for the doubleshot, Google ICS source gets us the rest - but we'll never see any ICS kernel source from HTC without an ICS ROM so it looks like we need to buy the whole pie just to get the slice we want.
Good job with the letter campaign, if everyone keeps it clean and professional I think it'll help!
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Anyone still on 2.1 is officially obsolete. Google has released a ton of new features for froyo and gingerbread users. Including google instant, new gmail app, and other things.
Which leaves 2.1 users with old software never to be upgraded again.
I still haven't flashed (due to warranty issues) but even if I did I would be upset because it still is based on buggy pre-release software.
Based on the epic 4g leak the froyo should be version 2.2.1 so new roms would be 2.2.1 instead of buggy 2.2
Why doesn't samsung care about their customers!
Yea, I share your sentiments. I tried most of the 2.2 leak ROMs, but most had troubles. The list of apps that don't work on 2.1 and below is growing. I wonder if Google Maps 5 will be the same way.
I really thinking about just buying an unlocked nexus s but then i realize its still samsung!!!
I returned a samsung tv i bought for my family for christmas because they suck so much ;D
The more I read about this (and the GPS malfunction), the more I think that when my Captivate arrives tomorrow I may just take it into an AT$T store and demand a refund and contract cancellation.
What we need is a Samsung Customer Service number we can start calling to voice our opinions. Any have a good Samsung number for this or a similar purpose?
Yes more than half of android devices are "obsolete"...
Return it? Because your too lazy to flash your phone with functional software instead of the junk Samsung and att gave us? I've been rocking the beta cm 6.1 for quite awhile and blows the doors off any 2.1 variant that was out there.....and as far as voiding your warranty its almost impossible to brick these phones so its completely easy to flash back to an out of the box state. So quit whining. This is what makes android so great. Take a phone with amazing hardware with crappy software and put amazing software on it
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For one, I'm not lazy or whining. I shouldn't have to flash my phone to get basic functionality out of it. The GPS should work without my having to invest in searching through a myriad of unauthorized solutions and risk not only voiding my warranty, but bricking my phone. If I wanted to put this much effort into making a phone work I would have stuck with WinMo 6.5 and my Tilt 2, which I know inside and out already. I moved to Android hoping I'd no longer have to spend so much time dicking around with my phone just to get things to work. You know, the whole "Droid Does" marketing ploy? The main reason I agreed to buy this phone was because I read on several different sites where Samsung said they were definitely going to update it to Froyo. I understand that their timetable may be off, but they should at least keep their promise. Is that too much to ask or expect?
Samsung promised Froyo by the end of the year for the US Market. They still have a 20 days. Their stance has not changed, so I don't see what anyone has to complain about.
As for GPS mine works as good as the one on my Bravo - my Tracks, Turn by Turn are the same. If your GPS has problems, take it back. If you try multiple phones and still have a problem, then make them switch you to another phone.
everyone knows they won't make the end of december date
It's not that I don't want to try custom ROMs. However, all the custom ROMs are built on leaked (and often buggy) Froyo ROMs. The sooner AT&T releases an official release Froyo ROM, the sooner we can get a stable (or more stable) custom Froyo ROM....hopefully they release the source code too. There's code in the custom ROMs that comes from all sorts of other ROMs lol
Ditto^^^ Well, according to Mr. Smalls, we're just lazy, whiny jerks with no valid excuse for not wanting to use a custom ROM on our phones.
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It's not that I don't want to try custom ROMs. However, all the custom ROMs are built on leaked (and often buggy) Froyo ROMs. The sooner AT&T releases an official release Froyo ROM, the sooner we can get a stable (or more stable) custom Froyo ROM....hopefully they release the source code too. There's code in the custom ROMs that comes from all sorts of other ROMs lol
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try axura.. VERY stable, fast, practical rom with good themes. its a work of art. been rocking it with very minimal issue (less issues compared to stock).
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For one, I'm not lazy or whining. I shouldn't have to flash my phone to get basic functionality out of it. The GPS should work without my having to invest in searching through a myriad of unauthorized solutions and risk not only voiding my warranty, but bricking my phone. If I wanted to put this much effort into making a phone work I would have stuck with WinMo 6.5 and my Tilt 2, which I know inside and out already. I moved to Android hoping I'd no longer have to spend so much time dicking around with my phone just to get things to work. You know, the whole "Droid Does" marketing ploy? The main reason I agreed to buy this phone was because I read on several different sites where Samsung said they were definitely going to update it to Froyo. I understand that their timetable may be off, but they should at least keep their promise. Is that too much to ask or expect?
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Am I correct that you don't even have your device as you're typing that?! Try it first..a lot of the stuff you read isn't what you will experience. I.E.: my gps has worked a charm since I picked mine up in mid October..it's an excellent device. I've had a Samsung DLP for more than 2 years and it works flawlessly. People like to rant..find out for yourself for chrissake. It's nice to be happy with a cell device for the first time in awhile for me..only complaint is att dragging heels on 2.2. I'm too busy and old (55) to have the energy to do all that stuff that many do..but it's also nice to know that if I get tired of waiting and get a wild hair, I'll root and flash when I'm good and ready. Meantime I think the Captivate is a great companion
From what I've heard, I think that it might be the carriers that are delaying the update. Don't know if this is true or not but I kinda doubt this is Samsung's fault.
@fldude, Thanks for the encouragement. I used to love fiddling with my WinMo phones and I enjoyed modding my Tilt 2 to where it runs great and does (almost) all I ask of it. I'd still be using it if WinMo wasn't a dead platform and the thing wasn't so laggy. That saidI was hoping the switch to Android would mean I finallly would have a phone that I could tinker with if I wanted to, but didn't HAVE to, like WinMo. I guess reading through these forums exposes one mostly to the negative since most people only post when having problems. I brushed most of it aside, but the GPS issue really stood out because I use GPS-enabled apps a lot and it works so well on my Tilt 2. I can't wait for the Cap to get here tomorrow so I can start playing with it. Thanks to running XDAndroid on my Tilt 2 I already have some idea of what to expect and how to use it.
I will say this, reading about rooting and flashing of Android, kernel this and apk that is a lot more intimidating than working with WinMo. I never hesitated to edit my registry, but modding Android sounds pretty scary.
By the way, does fl mean you're a fellow H-D rider?
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Samsung promised Froyo by the end of the year for the US Market. They still have a 20 days. Their stance has not changed, so I don't see what anyone has to complain about.
As for GPS mine works as good as the one on my Bravo - my Tracks, Turn by Turn are the same. If your GPS has problems, take it back. If you try multiple phones and still have a problem, then make them switch you to another phone.
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They were previously quoted saying by the end of November. There was that whole JH7 fiasco. And your argument doesn't change what he was saying. His whole point was that he shouldn't have to **** around to make it work. It just should.
david717;971 His whole point was that he shouldn't have to **** around to make it work. It just should.[/QUOTE said:
Ummm, I'm stock, never rooted, make phone calls, email, navigate with gps, surf the web, play games, usw.. How is this not a working phone? By my calculations this phone does "just work" and has since I pulled it out of its box in July.
I too am waiting for, now, v2.2.1...
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Before I bought mine I knee of the GPS issues and swwvthat a fix was coming. It still is. Besides the GPS my phone just works. Texting browsing g music video all just worked email too. Running the froyo leak my phone now completely 100% percent works. I'm excited to see how much more stable the official release will be.
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I have been following the forums regarding the so called Froyo release and I have to say that I am rather frustrated as well. I actually called AT&T last week to complain about the delay with Froyo with Gingerbread's release within a few weeks. Not to mention Honeycomb on the horizon.
In speaking with one of the techs he also shared his frustrations and was hoping that it would be released in early January. I told him that it was understood that it would be release at the end of the year and he confirmed that same understanding. However his sources revealed that it is now for early January. Let's hope this is true, but as you all know we have been given so many empty promises.
Furthermore,I read an article that Samsung is undecided whether to release Gingerbread for the Galaxy devices. For a product that has been so popular and successful, what are they thinking? Or maybe they are not!!
Either way my fingers and toes are crossed for Froyo for now...
So its going to be released pretty soon.. what are the odds of the Captivate getting some love?
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/19/in...axy-nexus-and-ice-cream-sandwich-android-4-0/
Unfortunately, I'm going to have to go with 'Nil.'
The chances are non existent. It just makes business sense for for these updates to take forever. I do understand there are some hardware issues with the updates but in the end the average consumer is going to purchase a new phone or use their upgrade in order to get the latest os. If they keep updating old phones to the newest stuff people would hold onto their phone longer. I mean, ths is the first phone ive ever owned that I could flash custom roms onto. Before this I was locked into the operating system and whatever user interface was on the phone when I purchased it. If I hadnt found this forum or custom roms I would be frustrated by the lack of gingerbread and probably would have used my upgrade by now.
No hope. Most of the features aside from the UI wont work anyways due to not having the hardware (NFC) or lack of CPU and RAM (Camera features).
Just get a nice theme
they have it up and running on fascinates, as of 5AM this morning
We didnt even get official GB and we want ICS.....lol so greedy we people are...
Hell yeah Well rogers got the official gb , but att, com'on, forget about it.
First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.
Be patient. It'll be ported eventually.
I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship
Well, i'd be surprised to see ICS for our captivate. Even if cyanogen mod is getting ICS, i probably won't jump because of the superior call quality and slightly (if not better) battery life on captivate ROMs.
I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.
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First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.
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Um I did? - and even the XDA board didn't give me the topic yet so meh.
And someone has this starting to run on the Fascinate?? The Captivate is THE phone that seems to get the most love besides the Vibrant for this range of devices.
And I don't care how we get it... as long as someone is able to wedge it into the phone.
You know, it's open source.
Any of you asking for it can take a crack at it
I am seriously inexperienced, but this might be a good start to a programming career..
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I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.
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Nope, not even in the ballpark. Google has no legal obligation to any phone. What you are thinking of is how Google made the main phone produces agree to try harder to keep the phones up to date (up to one and a half years past release aka 18months). But that did not extend to the carriers...
Else they have to stop using the "Android" name and Google's apps
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I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship
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That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.
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That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.
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not mention i've seen them pretty active in the galaxy nexus forums... might be because they have different priorities right now? once they figure out the newest phone they'll be able to come back and help us?
If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Saving my money for a Galaxy Nexus
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If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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If he does have it running, it's the SDK release and it will be slow as molasses.
according to facebook page
says for desire HD which is very similar to inspire right?
Yes it is. I'm sure once it's out for the Desire HD, all the devs that use that base (like Android Revolution HD) will be working on getting it to the Inspire. All we can do is wait.
The problem ATT took the inspire from there inventory so no ics for us...
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The problem ATT took the inspire from there inventory so no ics for us...
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S-OFF will solve all your worries. The Desire HD was a high-end phone for HTC, they won't abandon it for at least 2 years. The last version of ICS is probably where updates will end, or it might get a single update that will get it to Android 5.0. Any more is unreasonable.
I keep hearing that AT&T took it out of inventory, but when did that actually happen? I bought my inspire only 2 weeks ago, and while it was from a RadioShack, as a former employee I don't remember there stock ever being that far behind
Considering they just had a sale on the inspire I think they still have them
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Any HTC ICS phone is needed.... We need Sence for ICS and that can be taken from any HTC phone.
just recently saw a bunch of ATT ads for buying the inspire or the infuse for 1 penny. Id love ics from htc, not because its worth a damn from them but because of what the devs here can do with that.
Making it seem like they pulled it from the inventory is probably just some marketing scheme. They make it seem like this phone is no longer available after the public wants it and them BAM! buy it for valentines day in the red color and for cheap too. If I was a person wanting a phone I'd jump on that. Its just a big game they are playing. And personally I don't care if ATT sends the update out or not. Thats why I came to this site. To get the most out of my phone and that means I can update it and not have to worry or wait for ATT lol cause we all know they aren't the fastest person in the race.
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Making it seem like they pulled it from the inventory is probably just some marketing scheme. They make it seem like this phone is no longer available after the public wants it and them BAM! buy it for valentines day in the red color and for cheap too. If I was a person wanting a phone I'd jump on that. Its just a big game they are playing. And personally I don't care if ATT sends the update out or not. Thats why I came to this site. To get the most out of my phone and that means I can update it and not have to worry or wait for ATT lol cause we all know they aren't the fastest person in the race.
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exactly. and as far as ICS goes, by the time it actually comes out we wont care anymore. same with GB by the time it was released we were way past that.
I personally DGAF about the HTC roms. They are always bloaty and generally slow. I try to use open sourced roms because I dislike proprietary software. Updates are few and far between, etc. sure sense looks good, but I'd rather go for the Android look anyway
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I personally DGAF about the HTC roms. They are always bloaty and generally slow. I try to use open sourced roms because I dislike proprietary software. Updates are few and far between, etc. sure sense looks good, but I'd rather go for the Android look anyway
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Can we please beat this into our heads, because I'm getting frustrated having to scream this from high heaven to get anyone to listen.
HTC releasing an official ICS ROM for our phone is incredibly important because the kernel source and files will make running any ROM on our phones for ICS that much easier, it doesn't matter whether it's a Sense or AOSP ROM. All the bugs and glitches in any ICS ROM will be mostly fixed by kernel source and drivers.
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Can we please beat this into our heads, because I'm getting frustrated having to scream this from high heaven to get anyone to listen.
HTC releasing an official ICS ROM for our phone is incredibly important because the kernel source and files will make running any ROM on our phones for ICS that much easier, it doesn't matter whether it's a Sense or AOSP ROM. All the bugs and glitches in any ICS ROM will be mostly fixed by kernel source and drivers.
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Your right once the Source for the official version is posted all the issues with ICS right now will be gone. The kernel source will fix the camera issues and most of the other issues present in ICS roms that we all see right now. Take the camera. The Video recording bug will most likely not be fixed until the source is released from HTC. Then you will see most if not all roms move over to ICS
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Can we please beat this into our heads, because I'm getting frustrated having to scream this from high heaven to get anyone to listen.
HTC releasing an official ICS ROM for our phone is incredibly important because the kernel source and files will make running any ROM on our phones for ICS that much easier, it doesn't matter whether it's a Sense or AOSP ROM. All the bugs and glitches in any ICS ROM will be mostly fixed by kernel source and drivers.
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yup. This is the only reason I'm gunning for the official release also. My phone runs so much smoother without HTC sense. So does my fathers captivate without touchwiz. But we definitely need those essential functions such as proper camera.
shugga101 said:
Making it seem like they pulled it from the inventory is probably just some marketing scheme. They make it seem like this phone is no longer available after the public wants it and them BAM! buy it for valentines day in the red color and for cheap too.
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The more probable explanation is that the phone is getting to end-of-life and they're looking to blow out inventory to lock in customers and hit their unit volume contractual commitment with HTC.
That's great news! It will not take long for the developers to mod that for the inspire.
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That's great news! It will not take long for the developers to mod that for the inspire.
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About 30 minutes....LOL
BillTheCat said:
The more probable explanation is that the phone is getting to end-of-life and they're looking to blow out inventory to lock in customers and hit their unit volume contractual commitment with HTC.
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good reason to get in financial position to buy phones outright and then not ever be locked into phone contracts (if only being out of x-yr contract would get a discounted rate)
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good reason to get in financial position to buy phones outright and then not ever be locked into phone contracts (if only being out of x-yr contract would get a discounted rate)
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Yeah, there's some wisdom to that. I used to do it that way myself for years with a Kaiser and HD2, but since I'm going to be needing a data plan anyway, and don't see a reason to switch from AT&T, I figure for my purposes it's hard to conjure a compelling reason to spend $500 or more on a phone if the carrier will subsidize me for what I was going to do anyway. :screwy:
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good reason to get in financial position to buy phones outright and then not ever be locked into phone contracts (if only being out of x-yr contract would get a discounted rate)
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Ugh. No kidding. I'm stuck with AT&T right now, and hate it. Even with the grandfathered data plan, they'll throttle you down to nearly dialup speeds if you use too much data within a billing cycle. If it weren't for the contact and having to pay that exorbitant freaking termination fee, I would've already told AT&T to piss up a rope and switched to Sprint.
Hi sea buddies,
I just have a general question why mytouch 4g is not in the list of ics devices? Desire hd was released on September 2010 and it is confirmed ics where are my touch was on October and global release on November 2010... Both have same processor speed and stuffs... Are we getting ignored of ics??
I do not Wanadoo root? Coz I am a roomy at this.... Please let me know urs valuable comments..
Cheers,
Renga
There has been reports of official ics coming to us, but we won't know until it happens. Feb will have have the ics roms working
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Yes even I ve seen it on the list of expected ics devices I am not sure how far of a legit news it is... This is a super capable device.. I would love to see ics on this... So all of you mytoouch users demand this on HTC Facebook page ..let the rage begin and get us ics.....
Regards,
Renga
Rengak05 said:
Hi sea buddies,
I just have a general question why mytouch 4g is not in the list of ics devices? Desire hd was released on September 2010 and it is confirmed ics where are my touch was on October and global release on November 2010... Both have same processor speed and stuffs... Are we getting ignored of ics??
I do not Wanadoo root? Coz I am a roomy at this.... Please let me know urs valuable comments..
Cheers,
Renga
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I'm sure you're using a translator, but I still lol-ed at that. Sea buddies?
Not only is the DHD getting ICS, but so is the Thunderbolt which is also essentially identical spec-wise. Because of the MT4G's custom version of Sense, I doubt we'll ever see ICS officially.
@fb that was a typo what i wanted to type was xda.. lolzzz
TeeJay3800 said:
I'm sure you're using a translator, but I still lol-ed at that. Sea buddies?
Not only is the DHD getting ICS, but so is the Thunderbolt which is also essentially identical spec-wise. Because of the MT4G's custom version of Sense, I doubt we'll ever see ICS officially.
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yeah +1
we didn't even get Sense 3.0. doubt we'll be seeing a official Mysense ICS for the Glacier. but of course, we could always port from the doubleshot...
totally agree though, MT4G is wayyyy capable of ICS...
Like I said before. Were not getting ics officially on the mt4g. The reason because the mt4g is a T-Mobile official branded device. Hence the lame mysense that it came with.
I don't think there will be an official ics version for this as it is old now.
How did the desire HD get then.. its a month older than this? :S
on the list here :- http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-update-list-on-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades/
posted by a fellow xda mate.. mytouch 4g is also available on expected ics list.. tmo please make this one count for ics..
Cheers,
Renga
Rengak05 said:
How did the desire HD get then.. its a month older than this? :S
on the list here :- http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-update-list-on-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades/
posted by a fellow xda mate.. mytouch 4g is also available on expected ics list.. tmo please make this one count for ics..
Cheers,
Renga
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Desire HD is a well known device. It once was HTC's flagship. Also, its inteernational, so a lot of people use and love it. It's a popular device... Of tmobile was to give us ICS, it would be pretty hard
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coupetastic-droid said:
Like I said before. Were not getting ics officially on the mt4g. The reason because the mt4g is a T-Mobile official branded device. Hence the lame mysense that it came with.
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This... and T-Mobile seems to have shifted away from Sense to LG's POS framework with the myTouch line, so as far as T-Mobile goes, we're pretty much at EOL. Any official update we get would be a treat.
Regardless, HTC plans to officially update the HTC Rhyme, Desire HD, Thunderbolt.. all of those are powered by the MSM8255 chipset with that sexy 7x30 kernel, Adreno 205, and 1GHz Snapgragon CPU. We probably wouldn't have to do much once they all get their updates. Of course though, only greif we should have is camera. Possibly video decoding too.
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Rengak05 said:
How did the desire HD get then.. its a month older than this? :S
on the list here :- http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-update-list-on-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades/
posted by a fellow xda mate.. mytouch 4g is also available on expected ics list.. tmo please make this one count for ics..
Cheers,
Renga
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It's because Desire HD is a flagship device, whereas myTouch 4G is just some random ol' device T-Mobile made after they saw the Desire HD and release that the myTouch 3G Slide wasn't cutting it anymore.
Rengak05 said:
Hi sea buddies,
I just have a general question why mytouch 4g is not in the list of ics devices? Desire hd was released on September 2010 and it is confirmed ics where are my touch was on October and global release on November 2010... Both have same processor speed and stuffs... Are we getting ignored of ics??
I do not Wanadoo root? Coz I am a roomy at this.... Please let me know urs valuable comments..
Cheers,
Renga
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I am not trying to be a jerk, but an official ICS rom would be nice as all the others especially for this phone are extremely buggy, and in my opinion unusable at this time. There are too many bugs, crashes, slowdowns and things that plainly don't work (like you know the basic function of calling people and people actually hearing you, or it actually working.)
I am sorry if this sounds pissy but I am just sick of these ROM's not working, and having to constantly wipe and re flash my phone over and over again, and trying out different ROMs. Finally finding one that works, I am just going to stick with MIUI until ICS officially works correctly and is basically bug free. it's just not worth to upgrade for it flashiness.
I know the DEV's on these boards try hard, DON'T GET ME WRONG. I have been on here since the Android G1 came out, and remember MANUALLY rooting that thing from the telnetD command. It's not that I don't have patience, but at this point with all the work DEV's do on phones now I can't understand how so many ROM's are still really buggy, and get constantly broken in an update, please release working firmware.
I understand that ultimately the DEV's are not responsible for us flashing with unofficial firmware, but you are still releasing YOUR firmware to the public for people to use, to get recognition. This is a catch-22 scenario, where yes your are not responsible, but almost expect people to use your firmware for either recognition or donations. I can't decide who to donate to anymore either, there are just too many DEV's working on too many things at once, stick to ONE ROM. Not five at a time. It's not realistic.
I think at this point, instead of every DEV working individually on there own ROM's, I think every DEV should just combine brain power and make the ultimate ICS ROM. At this rate, a stable ICS ROM will not be out for months. The source code was released in November, and it is now February, and the same bugs in ICS (camera not working), are still here.
It's not only that, constantly re doing my APPS gets really annoying. I am not paying for Titanium Backup, when I am downloading FREE firmware. Every firmware at this point, like MIUI, should have a BACKUP and RESTORE option built in for APPS, so when you do this over and over again, you don't have to pay for Titanium Backup, or re download your APPs, configure your WIFI, set your CPU, redo your menu options, redo your desktop, redo your shortcuts, your widgets, your background etc. etc. etc. over and over again.
I understand this is a different framework, but seriously now. Please stop releasing almost unusable firmware. I am kind of sick of being a beta tester, I do not mind reporting bugs. But at this rate I will destroy my NAND on my phone from wiping and flashing so much. Which CAN happen, and eventually will happen. If you seriously want me to be a beta tester for your firmware, give me a secondary pone and I will be happy to constantly flash and reflash the phone over and over again to test this.
I am sorry if this sounds *****y, but it just starting to get on my nerves. I mean it comes to a point, is this phone even worth it? I can see DEV's are mainly focusing on the newer phones, I do not blame them. But at this point if you want to release your work and have people see how good you are at what you do, ask people to be a beta tester and send them a testing phone so they don't have to risk destroying there phone.
Please forgive me I don't want this to be perceived as trolling but, I have to get this out before I get this out more immaturely somewhere else. I am trying to explain and get things out as professionally as I can.
Thanks
Nafé
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I am kind of sick of being a beta tester, I do not mind reporting bugs. But at this rate I will destroy my NAND on my phone from wiping and flashing so much. Which CAN happen, and eventually will happen. If you seriously want me to be a beta tester for your firmware, give me a secondary pone and I will be happy to constantly flash and reflash the phone over and over again to test this.
I am sorry if this sounds *****y, but it just starting to get on my nerves. I mean it comes to a point, is this phone even worth it? I can see DEV's are mainly focusing on the newer phones, I do not blame them. But at this point if you want to release your work and have people see how good you are at what you do, ask people to be a beta tester and send them a testing phone so they don't have to risk destroying there phone.
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Nafé
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I appreciate your frustration and impatience for a fully functional ICS ROM. I'm sure most of us (including the dev) are in this boat. I do take exception to you complaining about being a beta tester. This is your choice. The dev has not misled you in any way as to the code quality:
[ROM/WIP][AOSP] CynogenMod 9.0.0 Alpha [ICS][4.0.3][02.14.2012]
[ROM][ICS][Beta][2.2.3] MIUI V4 || Unofficial Port for MT4G [UPDATED 02.07.2012]
[ROM/WIP][02-14-2012][AOSP] Virtuous Quattro Beta r1 [ICS][4.0.3]
[ROM][ICS][AOSP][Beta 7.1] .: :: Creamed Glacier :: :. [UPDATED 02.07.2012]
It sounds like you are not a good candidate for being an alpha/beta tester and you may want to hold off until you see "Alpha","Beta", or "WIP" (work in progress) disappear from the ROM titles.
T-Mobile has had leaked ICS Roms for both HTC devices running Sense 3.0. The Sensation 4G, and Amaze 4G. Most people felt like the Amaze would never get the 3.6 Update. But now they have a leaked RUU, bloat and all. Now that a good number of Sense 3.0 devices have an ICS update. I think it's time for the Doubleshot to get a ICS update. The Gingerbread RUU was leaked before this phone came out. I'm sure Football will manage to get a leaked Rom. We have all the proper specs, and I know we have 1 Million plus ICS Update threads. But with all the new updates, come on. It's about time.
Fail Xo I posted in the wroung Section! Mods, please move this thread. I'm sick right now, didn't know what I did.
Not Sent From a Galaxy Note :T
I sure hope you're right about this one...
Our phone will literally rocket off for development
Ya... But I just don't see any signs that T-Mobile or HTC is going to release a ROM like that for our phone. Hopefully they do tho!
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!
Either way, we've been making stunning progress even without an official update.
Have you checked out the sticky on ICS configuration tree in the dev section?
That's some great progress
I encourage anyone who knows anything dev to pop in and see if they can help. It will make cooking roms much easier and also greatly increase our chances of CM support.
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think again, i can say that there WILL NOT be an official release of ICS, EVER for the MT4GS
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And your basis for this assumption?
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rawdaddymagraden said:
And your basis for this assumption?
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There is no definitive word either way yet...so everything is an assumption
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And your basis for this assumption?
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Undeadk9 was claiming that he knew a "level 3" tech support at T-Mobile who told him there would not be any ICS for MT4GS. I heard all that sort of crap back when I had a Moto Cliq and the MT3GS, some "friend" in "tech support" telling bullsh*t. No doubt there is a friend, but believing that friend has information that nobody else has is very unrealistic.
T-Mobile updated even the ancient original MyTouch from 1.6 all the way to Froyo 2.2. I don't see them completely abandoning this phone, especially since the hardware is so similar to their other models like the Amaze 4G and Sensation 4G. HTC would only need to incorporate the Genius system.
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... reports of this phone being end of life'd very shortly, you can almost garentee they have no interest in updating this phone to ICS. Watch and see, it happens with almost all their phones.
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You just confirmed that you really don't know sh*t. EOL has no bearing on whether a phone receives an update. T-Mobile has updated many phones long after they went EOL in their system. The entire MyTouch lineup, including the original, got updated to Froyo within a few months of each other, LOOOOOOONG after they had all gone EOL.
And what's the crap about no development on this phone? You can't be taken seriously spewing crap like that. Look around, dude. Here and Virtuous are full of dev for this phone.
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Official update or not, we already have a lot of stable ICS roms (primadonna, Inquisition, AOKP, insert whatever you please here). And the few kinks are just a matter of time
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I have to interject here. STABLE ROMs? Are you insane?
I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks") is a pretty f**king big deal. I would never call that stable.
And the closest to stable is DeSensed, which is ridiculous considering imitation widgets are GARBAGE in comparison.
Let's remember: Virtuous sets the standard for "stable". Period. Don't get me wrong, the developer community is great and I have appreciated them very much so over the years. But don't go branding their work to save your argument.
I hope that an official ICS update comes, but I doubt it. With the 3G slide, at least they kept telling everyone that an update was coming and it eventually came. Not the same case here.
Wow ..... I love xda and all these stable roms. These guys do a hell of a job. Dont let people get ya down we love all the devs here.... Im running premadonna right now and its quite stable
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I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks")
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Don't know what rom you are talking about MMS and Bluetooth, but Primadonna has MMS, Bluetooth and almost everything else working for me. The main feature it doesn't have is tethering, but Opengarden and Barnacle does the trick on that too...
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I have to interject here. STABLE ROMs? Are you insane?
I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks") is a pretty f**king big deal. I would never call that stable.
And the closest to stable is DeSensed, which is ridiculous considering imitation widgets are GARBAGE in comparison.
Let's remember: Virtuous sets the standard for "stable". Period. Don't get me wrong, the developer community is great and I have appreciated them very much so over the years. But don't go branding their work to save your argument.
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I threw AOKP in the mix by mistake. Either way, you're missing the point. There are stable (DEFINE: something I can use daily, with features I won't miss - obviously that differs from person to person) ICS roms out there. And if something like autobrightness isn't working, and that's what got you in a hunch, then you need to stick to the stock rom. Honestly I could care less about little quibbles like that.
My point is 95% of what you would need, even on a daily basis is working. And for some roms, it's even more than that. That's pretty outstanding considering we don't even have an official kernel or update.
Honestly, this thread has spiraled into a pointless opinion thread.
I refrain from posting any further.
You may think what you wish
I keep seeing people on here saying "phones with sense 3.0". I hope yall realize that we don't even have a real version of Sense.. its a Rosie/Doubleshot version. I don't see HTC modifying/myTouching the new version of sense and ICS for the doubleshot.
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I am sticking with it and telling you that you will not see ICS for the MyTouch 4G Slide as an official T-Mobile USA Release.
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Which is simply your uninformed and unknowing opinion, no more credible than anyone which differs. You claimed to have "inside information", which is pure bullsh*t.
I hope so. None of the custom ICS ROMs are stable, always several things missing or not working that prevent me from using it long term and those ROMs havent been updated in over a month.
Like I've said in several ics threads like this, the mytouch 4g will not receive ics.
Reason being, the mt4g has T-Mobile's sense version(my sense). For the mytouch 4g to be able to receive ics, T-Mobile would have to get rid of their mysense version of sense which they won't do on a T-Mobile specific device or HTC would have to create 2 versions of ics, one compatible with mytouch 4g's mysense and a regular ics for the rest of the devices.
You guys also gotta realize we didn't even receive a sense 3.0 update.
U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
thats my 2 cents on this subject
tradeware said:
U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
thats my 2 cents on this subject
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yea i was thinking about that.. maybe the panache version will get the update
i hope so, but honestly i doubt it because i dont think there are many panache users here most would have went with the amaze or galaxy nexus
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U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
thats my 2 cents on this subject
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Exactly, in Canada. If my memory serves me rights, they didn't even receive android 2.3.4.
But lets say he Canadian version of the mytouch receives ics, the US T-Mobile won't. Again same reason, panache=sense/T-Mobile mytouch 4g=mysense.