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I have a HTC Desire which I rooted about 2 months ago.
I find myself frequently switching roms to try different ones and I am wondering if it is possible to flash too often and damage the phone.
Sorry for the noobish question but when it comes to this stuff I am a noob
Flash like computer reshipment system is a truth, for hardware won't have what influence. Even with influence, would be marginal.
No its not, flash as often as you want .
Thanks Dark3n
Sorry x249541389 but even after reading your post at least 5 times it still makes my head spin
Dark3n said:
No its not, flash as often as you want .
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Well actually if you enter eng mode and check for bad blocks, it may show you some. But flash do have spare blocks, the system takes care of that for you. Do what ever you want, I have an iphone 2G, and flashed many many times, still working fine.
You might have a problem, you want to flash only once a month or so otherwise you might go blind, juuuuuuust kiiiidn, read the ops posts and you should be gewd
Larkspeed said:
I have a HTC Desire which I rooted about 2 months ago.
I find myself frequently switching roms to try different ones and I am wondering if it is possible to flash too often and damage the phone.
Sorry for the noobish question but when it comes to this stuff I am a noob
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How would one check for bad blocks on an HTC Desire ?
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Hi guys,
I don't own atrix 2 yet but m planning to get one soon so I thought to hit up xda . I am not new to rooting and modding but still don't have idea about locked bootloader as previously I owned optimus one which had unlocked bootloader.
So all I want to know is locker bootloader guarantees that phone wont get hard bricked!!
Also is this device better then htc sensation as u all r having real life experience with the device.. . Thanks
fundoozzz said:
Hi guys,
I don't own atrix 2 yet but m planning to get one soon so I thought to hit up xda . I am not new to rooting and modding but still don't have idea about locked bootloader as previously I owned optimus one which had unlocked bootloader.
So all I want to know is locker bootloader guarantees that phone wont get hard bricked!!
Also is this device better then htc sensation as u all r having real life experience with the device.. . Thanks
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The phone can ABSOLUTELY brick regardless of whether the ATRIX 2's bootloader is locked! Both soft bricking AND hard bricking can occur if your boot image or system image gets borked during a flash or FXZ or by flashing a firmware-based rom that is incompatible with your device. Be sure you read, understand, and have backups in place before doing anything...
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Coming from samsung phone i was also not that aware of concept of locked bootloaders but the simple thing you should understand with locked bootloader is YOU CANNOT FLASH ANY KERNEL THAT HASNT BEEN SIGNED OR VERIFIED BY MOTOROLA. previously i assume you could flash different ROMS or Kernel at your own will but in the device with locked bootloader you cannot flash custom or unsigned bootloader
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The phone can ABSOLUTELY brick regardless of whether the ATRIX 2's bootloader is locked! Both soft bricking AND hard bricking can occur if your boot image or system image gets borked during a flash or FXZ or by flashing a firmware-bases rom that is incompatible with your device. Be sure you read, understand, and have backups in place before doing anything...
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Kind of wrong. a missflash is recoverable by reflashing almost all the time.
That said, it is still possible, just look at Jim, he's gone through 4 or something crazy. It is however very hard, and as long as you are being carefull, you should be fine
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The phone can ABSOLUTELY brick regardless of whether the ATRIX 2's bootloader is locked! Both soft bricking AND hard bricking can occur if your boot image or system image gets borked during a flash or FXZ or by flashing a firmware-based rom that is incompatible with your device. Be sure you read, understand, and have backups in place before doing anything...
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Thanks, I just thought as the bootloader wont get affected so it can still enter fast boot mode irrespective of flashing bad system image and then from fastboot, recovery and everything else can be put back into place, thus the only type of bricking possible being soft brick. Am I wrong with this!!
lkrasner said:
Kind of wrong. a missflash is recoverable by reflashing almost all the time.
That said, it is still possible, just look at Jim, he's gone through 4 or something crazy. It is however very hard, and as long as you are being carefull, you should be fine
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A misflash or somehow screwing up the boot image can cause a bootloop in CWM (this, coming from Jim's knowledge) and can render the phone soft bricked in a sense, but can be FXZ'd with some understanding on how to do this.
I agree lkrasner, as long as you know what you're doing and how to recover in case something unexpected occurs, you should be all set!
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A misflash or somehow screwing up the boot image can cause a bootloop in CWM (this, coming from Jim's knowledge) and can render the phone soft bricked in a sense, but can be FXZ'd with some understanding on how to do this.
I agree lkrasner, as long as you know what you're doing and how to recover in case something unexpected occurs, you should be all set!
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So it should be concluded that phone will always be recoverable no matter how bad u screw up if u have proper knowledge and can only get soft bricked!!
fundoozzz said:
So it should be concluded that phone will always be recoverable no matter how bad u screw up if u have proper knowledge and can only get soft bricked!!
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As they say, "anything is possible". But you never can be too sure. Theoretically, you should be fine. There are several members here on the forum who can step you through possible fixes -should you find yourself needing them.
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Thanks guys..
M already liking this forum as ppl being so considerate and ready to help at will
What's your opinion guys on atrix 2 vs Sensation??
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A misflash or somehow screwing up the boot image can cause a bootloop in CWM (this, coming from Jim's knowledge) and can render the phone soft bricked in a sense, but can be FXZ'd with some understanding on how to do this.
I agree lkrasner, as long as you know what you're doing and how to recover in case something unexpected occurs, you should be all set!
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Right, softbricking is super easy for us, but it s pretty damn hard to actually hard brick it.
We r a family and ready to help whenever someone needs.... cheers to xda...nd thanks to all devs fo all the amazing stuff....
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Right, softbricking is super easy for us, but it s pretty damn hard to actually hard brick it.
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This is true. The ONLY reason I have hard bricked my phone so many times, is because I was trying to break the bootloader open, and or bypass it with some code and an unsigned kernel, and I was able to do it, but it will only last one boot, then the pone is hard bricked, and and will not even power on after something like that.
So if you really are not interested in kernel flashing and super overclocking (we can overclock to about 1.2 GHZ without issue), then you should be able to recover from just about anything.
Regarding OP's inquiry about the Sensation vs. Atrix 2...
Spec wise they are even, each phone takes a couple categories, but you probably already knew that.
Since the bootloader is unlocked on the Sensation, it has a ton more ROMs and is way easier too customize, so it wins there, honestly . Although our awesome devs are still persevering well!
From personal experience, the Atrix 2 has satisfied most of my needs. There is the fact that it is not officially compatible with a lot of games, but installing them manually actually shows that they work fine! This phone software has never crashed on me, and app crashes are few and far in between (I can't remember the last time it happened). Great hardware too, only problem is the bootloader.
The Atrix 2 community is great though, it really is like a family, and you can really get answers to questions.
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Regarding OP's inquiry about the Sensation vs. Atrix 2...
Spec wise they are even, each phone takes a couple categories, but you probably already knew that.
Since the bootloader is unlocked on the Sensation, it has a ton more ROMs and is way easier too customize, so it wins there, honestly . Although our awesome devs are still persevering well!
From personal experience, the Atrix 2 has satisfied most of my needs. There is the fact that it is not officially compatible with a lot of games, but installing them manually actually shows that they work fine! This phone software has never crashed on me, and app crashes are few and far in between (I can't remember the last time it happened). Great hardware too, only problem is the bootloader.
The Atrix 2 community is great though, it really is like a family, and you can really get answers to questions.
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Whats keeping me from sensation is that it uses snapdragon processor while the omap used in atrix 2 uses 45nm architecture which is more efficient in processing and battery, also the camera of sensation is not upto the mark as read in reviews. But on the other side sensation is better looking device with better interface i.e. sense and also better after market firmware support, so this leaves me out in dilemma
go for sense
fundoozzz said:
Whats keeping me from sensation is that it uses snapdragon processor while the omap used in atrix 2 uses 45nm architecture which is more efficient in processing and battery, also the camera of sensation is not upto the mark as read in reviews. But on the other side sensation is better looking device with better interface i.e. sense and also better after market firmware support, so this leaves me out in dilemma
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go for atrix 2 if better gpu & processing power nd longer battery is of ur concern plus it had 4g support ...nd as for software support ,sense is good but it also powerhungary and htc has only 756 MB ram compare to 1024mb ram in atrix 2 btw atrix 2 is geting ics in 10-12 weeks nd there is already a leak i m using nd trust me its pretty darn good ....it wont make u miss sense
go for htc sensation if looks, camera & display of htc matter... camera is actually good compared to atrix 2 nd the phone is more thick at 11.3mm which will hinder usability compare to atrix 2 which is 10.4mm nd very short battery life
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go for atrix 2 if better gpu & processing power nd longer battery is of ur concern plus it had 4g support ...nd as for software support ,sense is good but it also powerhungary and htc has only 756 MB ram compare to 1024mb ram in atrix 2 btw atrix 2 is geting ics in 10-12 weeks nd there is already a leak i m using nd trust me its pretty darn good ....it wont make u miss sense
go for htc sensation if looks, camera & display of htc matter... camera is actually good compared to atrix 2 nd the phone is more thick at 11.3mm which will hinder usability compare to atrix 2 which is 10.4mm nd very short battery life
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Actually m more on atrix side then on sensation coz got to know that sensation also has wifi death grip issue...
and here is the Motorola's interface review on ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/05/motorola-ics-ui-review/
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Actually m more on atrix side then on sensation coz got to know that sensation also has wifi death grip issue...
and here is the Motorola's interface review on ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/05/motorola-ics-ui-review/
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ohh yaa i forgot to mention that wifi issue also.... yup thats right as review says ics is awesome on motorola now.....qudos to motorola 4 that... Nd welcome to atrix 2 family
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Regarding OP's inquiry about the Sensation vs. Atrix 2...
Spec wise they are even, each phone takes a couple categories, but you probably already knew that.
Since the bootloader is unlocked on the Sensation, it has a ton more ROMs and is way easier too customize, so it wins there, honestly . Although our awesome devs are still persevering well!
From personal experience, the Atrix 2 has satisfied most of my needs. There is the fact that it is not officially compatible with a lot of games, but installing them manually actually shows that they work fine! This phone software has never crashed on me, and app crashes are few and far in between (I can't remember the last time it happened). Great hardware too, only problem is the bootloader.
The Atrix 2 community is great though, it really is like a family, and you can really get answers to questions.
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I have to agree with that. Unless you have to mod the crap out of your phone the A2 is great!
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We have got to give it to HTC here. The One S is, quite possibly, the easiest phone to root and flash there is. The instructions are so easy, even a caveman can do it. It literally took me less than 20 minutes to get CM9 installed on my brand spankin new One S...and most of that time was spent waiting on the slow WiFi at Starbucks to catch up.
I'm in love. For now.
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We have got to give it to HTC here. The One S is, quite possibly, the easiest phone to root and flash there is. The instructions are so easy, even a caveman can do it. It literally took me less than 20 minutes to get CM9 installed on my brand spankin new One S...and most of that time was spent waiting on the slow WiFi at Starbucks to catch up.
I'm in love. For now.
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Thank the devs not HTC. HTC actually slowed development at first by not releasing code right away. Samsung GS3 is actually easier.
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You've obviously never used a Motorola Triumph. That is the easiest phone to root and flash.
I hate that device.
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villainhalf said:
You've obviously never used a Motorola Triumph. That is the easiest phone to root and flash.
I hate that device.
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I like my Triumph seems pretty indestructible, yea it's easy to root and flash, I want the HTC evo V
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You can say many great things about the one s, but it's NOT the easiest phone to root. You have to u unlock bootloader and we still don't have s off: /
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Perhaps I'm a little jaded. I came from using the Galaxy S II and the Vibrant where getting a custom ROM installed was considerably more time consuming.
I don't understand the disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader when HTC made it very easy to re-lock (though not with factory encryption) and they still honor hardware damages if the phone is still under warranty.
I also don't understand the advantages of having S-OFF. Perhaps your experiences are different, but I've never gained any advantages from switching radios on any device I've owned.
I guess using the regular USB drivers provided by Google and being able to unlock the bootloader directly from fastboot without having to decrypt its unlock key would have made it easier, but it was a moot point to me given that HTC made both of these very easy to do.
And yes, the developers here are nothing short of amazing.
The one thing I want S-OFF for is repartitioning. I don't need 2 gb for apps, 1 would do, and I certainly DO NOT need 4 gb for system. That's just crazy. So after that I will have 3 gb more storage for nandroids, music, videos etc. That will be awesome
Habarug said:
The one thing I want S-OFF for is repartitioning. I don't need 2 gb for apps, 1 would do, and I certainly DO NOT need 4 gb for system. That's just crazy. So after that I will have 3 gb more storage for nandroids, music, videos etc. That will be awesome
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+1, looking for that. In the mean time I use the /data partition to store videos since it has like 1.5 GB lying around doing nothing. Just have to change the permission for /data to be readable by all. I would use the 2 GB+ on /system also, but then it would be erased whenever a new ROM is flashed I think.
The One S is far from being an easy phone to root. It's certainly not hard and don't require lot of steps or requirements like a Gold Card but still...
When I had a LG G2x, rooting it was baby easy: Install APX drivers on windows, boot the phone in update mode, shoot it CWM in one click with NvFlasher, flash your rom, done.
I found Samsung phones easier to Install custom Roms than HTC devices. Don't get me wrong, I love HTC's, soo much that I sold my 3weeks old SGSII just to buy the ONE S ( And I have owned other 5 HTC Phones)
On samsungs you only have to get into download mode and flash recovery and custom rom via Odin.
HTC made it easier now on the ONE Series, but you still have to unlock the bootloader via HTC Dev and bla bla bla bla, previous HTC Devices used to be a PITA considering we had to unlock bootloader (and in other cases install a ENG bootloader) hack to get Super CID, Obtain S-OFF and so on...
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When I had a LG G2x, rooting it was baby easy: Install APX drivers on windows, boot the phone in update mode, shoot it CWM in one click with NvFlasher, flash your rom, done.
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I was gonna mention this too. I hesitated to root my HOS for a couple of months because it seemed complicated compared to the G2x.
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I thought the Desire was really easy to root and S-Off. Back in the day.
HTC don't really deserve any props. They give us a half assed unlock offering, when what people really want is s-off. When I had my One S, I could have really done with being able to partition and get some of the /data storage that I was never gonna use on to the /sdcard partition as I used up the measly amount of storage quite quickly.
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I thought the Desire was really easy to root and S-Off. Back in the day.
HTC don't really deserve any props. They give us a half assed unlock offering, when what people really want is s-off. When I had my One S, I could have really done with being able to partition and get some of the /data storage that I was never gonna use on to the /sdcard partition as I used up the measly amount of storage quite quickly.
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They could gave us a completely locked device...
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I think the HTC phones which can use Revolutionary method are most easy to get S-OFF. Like Incredible S. The only thing you have to do is running a little tool.exe on your pc with your phone connected. Almost full automatic and in a few minutes. And yes we just could run that tool on out brand new untouched phones, to gain untouched ROM, Radio and Reovery with S-OFF. Only bootloader is modified.
No locks relocks or tampered messages. Getting back S-ON with full warranty is even more simple. Thats how it has to be.
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If I were a cell manufacturer and I was tired of people sending back s=off bricks for warranty exchanges I would try to stop that from happening myself.
However, u can unlock bootloader flash recovery and SU in 5 minutes... seriously. And flashing roms in recovery along with any recovery action is SOOOOOO much faster on our phones then the Amaze 4g that had the s3.
So... really... its not hard to root or flash roms. S=off is another beast... but I get why they make it so hard.
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I would say they deserve mad props, for sure, but its not for the "EASE" of unlocking. Obviously the king in that area would ne ANY nexus device. Its litterally ONE fastboot command and you are done!
However, i found this fairly simple to root and install a custom rom. what i think HTC really deserves props for is the hardware of this phone AND honestly... I know i am gonna get slammed for this, but... SENSE 4. Seriously. Coming from someone that has owned3 previous HTC phones all with varying versions of sense, i gotta say sense 4 is pretty awesome. I do LOVE stock android, but i cant honestly say that it performs any better than TrickDroid or Axiom, and the camera software and picture quality you get on a sense rom is hands down a MILLION times better at teh moment than any CM or AOKP that i have tried.
Habarug said:
The one thing I want S-OFF for is repartitioning. I don't need 2 gb for apps, 1 would do, and I certainly DO NOT need 4 gb for system. That's just crazy. So after that I will have 3 gb more storage for nandroids, music, videos etc. That will be awesome
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this is actually the ONLY reason i have seen to REALLY get s-off. I hadnt thought about repartitioning (but have on other phones) this phone, but man... that makes a LOT of sense!! lol
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HTC don't really deserve any props. They give us a half assed unlock offering, when what people really want is s-off. When I had my One S, I could have really done with being able to partition and get some of the /data storage that I was never gonna use on to the /sdcard partition as I used up the measly amount of storage quite quickly.
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Seriously?? Cmon man... the one s is a damn impressive phone (and this is coming from someone that is EXTREMELY picky about phones). What did you get since you dont have a one s now?
Nexus phones are definitely easy to unlock, but this isn't too far off. 3 fastboot commands vs 1 which equates to, what, 1 more minute of typing at worst?
The only thing that could have made this easier was if the Android USB drivers provided by Google supported this phone out of the box. The other drivers should have been easier to find too, but c'est la vie.
Still easier to unlock and root than the Vibrant, GS2 and even the Inspire I had before it.
The design of this phone is definitely top-notch, though its real test will be how it holds up six months from now. That is usually a problem point for HTC devices.
What I wish now is that HTC could make us able to use the ImageSense chip in AOSP roms as well
villainhalf said:
You've obviously never used a Motorola Triumph. That is the easiest phone to root and flash.
I hate that device.
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I used to have a Moto Triumph (good riddance VM)
It wasnt too hard to root, but it had weird problems
Most definetly one of the most durable phones ive ever had though (I started with the Samsung Intercept, then Optimus V, then Triumph, now One S)
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What I wish now is that HTC could make us able to use the ImageSense chip in AOSP roms as well
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Man, i REALLY wish this would happen. I am really loving the new Sense... HOWEVER, the camera is what keeps me from running any AOSP rom for an extended period of time. Its really bad in any AOSP rom i have tried.
I think my ATT htc one x may be hard bricked...
I was playing around with ROMs and lost track of time. The last recovery I had on there was clockworkmod (was going back and forth between it and twrp).
I was trying to install the new jellybean rom and it kept on giving me an "assert failed" error. At this point, I deleted the assert lines from the recovery script as advised by one of the posters, and ran the install again. Went through... rebooted and...
The phone is completely dead now. I think it may have discharged? I plugged it in to the wall socket and nothing... absolutely no lights, no screen..... Power+ vol down does not work either....
Please help me, is there any way to recover from this situation?
Wrong subforum.
You don't flash a Tegra One X ROM to your Qcom S4 One X did you? I assume the partition layouts are quite different, so this is bad.
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You don't flash a Tegra One X ROM to your Qcom S4 One X did you? I assume the partition layouts are quite different, so this is bad.
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Doesn't seem like a rare thing occurring. Either people are overseeing this or they are not really aware that for you can't flash a rom made for a tegra quad core device onto a dual krait.
I used this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763240
Sheesh..... Is this meant for the tegra? I never thought I would do such a thing.... I was aware of the issue/hardware differences....
Is there any hope? Actually, in device manager it shows up as QHSUSB_DLOAD and I heard thats a bad sign?
If it cannot be fixed, does anyone have an estimate about how much HTC would charge to reflash/fix it?
My signficant other is as po'ed at me as can be... especially since I had really pushed for the upgrade.... man...
Yes it's meant for the Tegra One X, that's why it wouldn't install (that, and it's not in the AT&T One X section). You bypassed the check the install script does to make sure you're installing it on the right phone.
In short, yes you have buggered it, QHUSUSB_DLOAD is a state where you can write things to the phone, but whether anyone as done any research into it on the S4 One X I don't know.
As for getting it fixed, I have no idea on cost, however... if you convince HTC that you didn't do it yourself, it might be possible to get it done under warranty.
Edit: Did a bit of research and /system on the Tegra One X is is HBOOT on the S4 One X, that's why it's ruined your phone.
htc would just replace the motherboard and charge for that - loads of people have reported the cost its something like £169 to replace motherboard, which would of course un brick it.
Have you tried to keep it plugged in to a charger for an hour or so? My HOX was dead too but started to flash red light after an hour, moment after solid light and it booted
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He doesn't have an HBOOT any more, there is nothing he can do.
This is why people should stop being stubborn and call that phone HTC One XL. These kinds of situations would happen sooner or later.
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I guess I did... I actually had come to that page via google and since, perhaps I was a bit sleepy, did not verify the source... should have....
Is there any fix at all? Like loading the drivers and reformatting it or something?
Im a bit confused about the motherboard replacement: since its a software issue, cant HTC fix it with a software update? Ill call them today and post the answer on this group as well, but knowing what I am dealing with may help in talking with them.
Thanks to everyone again
No fix that I'm aware of. You really need to be asking this in the XL section though. The phones really are quite different, we don't have the mode you're stuck in (not being Qualcomm based).
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No fix that I'm aware of. You really need to be asking this in the XL section though. The phones really are quite different, we don't have the mode you're stuck in (not being Qualcomm based).
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Thanks... Someone in that section has kindly agreed to see if he/she can help me... Keeping fingers crossed... doent feel right to tell att that my phone stopped working for a replacemenf...
Hate to say it but your phone is dead. It's not revivable ar this time and so your only option is jtag or warranty replacement because you overwrote the Hboot.
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Don't let morals get you on that one. Lie to them, if not for yourself than for me.
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RobertX1 said:
I used this....in device manager it shows up as QHSUSB_DLOAD ..
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I am sorry, QHSUSB_DLOAD is dead end at every HTC phone. There is nothing you can do. I know what I am speaking, I hardbrick my last HTC in the same way.
But quarrantee will work, HTC cannot find out that you root it. They will replace you mainboard..as someone already mentioned
Not quite, there is a debricking method for the Sensation that can recover from it.
In most cases though, you're right.
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I am sorry, QHSUSB_DLOAD is dead end at every HTC phone. There is nothing you can do. I know what I am speaking, I hardbrick my last HTC in the same way.
But quarrantee will work, HTC cannot find out that you root it. They will replace you mainboard..as someone already mentioned
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i already revived 2 sensation xe's from the qhusb_dload.
need linux though but it definetly is possible:-o
Please move this thread to the XL subforum
miniterror said:
i already revived 2 sensation xe's from the qhusb_dload.
need linux though but it definetly is possible:-o
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Thanks... any hope for this being possible for the one XL? Also, could the mods please move this thread to the ATT section (sorry for posting it in the wrong section... but I really didnt know the importance of the difference.... wanna look at my phone? )
Thanks everyone. I think I might send the phone to HTC to get it repaired.... although the s***ty thing with that is that Ive heard they take that opportunity to replace the motherboard instead of just replacing the software, and hit me with a big bill rather than a reasonable/fair price....
So.... trying to be honest (by not returning the phone as defective to HTC) ensures that I get scammed by them... :victory:
Possible? Yes of course, that's the point of that mode as I understand it, with some other HTC phones you can hook it up to a RIFF Box and load it up.
Likely? Probably not, as it'll take people looking into it in depth to figure it out and as far as I can see, no-one has/is looked/is looking into it on the OXL.
It really does look like you'll need to send it to HTC, which (as you sound quite honest) will probably be expensive.
Ok so heres the short of it. I was attempting to root my phone with the Hasoon V1.1 Tool kit and needless to say, everything went wrong. Here's what happened. I did everything to unlock the bootloader. Got my token ID and all that stuff. Next, I loaded the twrp recovery. Cleared everything out of the phone, and went to load a rom. It kept telling me "Failed" when I tried applying the rom. It ended up getting into a boot loop and wouldn't do much. I got it to go back to the recovery when this started and still it wouldn't load any of the ATT Htc One x Roms. I made sure those were the ones I had. Now, at random throughout the process at some point last night, it wouldn't do anything. It has a blank screen. When I plug it in, the status light shows nothing. It was on the charger last night all night, and has not changed. No status light, no screen, nothing! I know you guys are going to ask for more information, but low and behold, like most people you smart guys deal with, I'm a noob. I rooted my google G1, and my HTC inspire without too much trouble, but this is just completely beyond me. As I was doing research I read about problems people were having with the blank screen of death. I'm just worried because I don't have insurance and I'm pretty much screwed without a phone. Does anyone have any input as to what I can do? I'm just beyond aggrivated not having a phone, and I don't have much money to be getting a new one. PLEASE HELP ME
-Mike
Which Rom exactly were you trying to install?
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Which ROM you flashed? Did you successfully root? Can you hold power + volume down to access twrp? Did you try to charge it? What does it do when plugged to computer?
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InflatedTitan said:
Which ROM you flashed? Did you successfully root? Can you hold power + volume down to access twrp? Did you try to charge it? What does it do when plugged to computer?
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This, as well as... Which phone do you have, the X or XL. The XL is specific in which rooting method you can use.
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-Power and volume down do absolutely nothing
-Rom was Endeavoru Cyanogen Mod
-Kernel was Franco Kernel r21
-Plugged into computer, does nothing. No status light, nothing.
I am thinking it wasn't the software that did it. It was plugged into the usb port of my laptop the whole time, but may have died. I read online somewhere if you completely discharge the phone, you need a special charger to charge it. If I loaded the wrong kernel it could have gotten below it's "dead" percentage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but with Lithium Ion batteries, completely discharging them is not good for the battery. If it had nothing to tell it to stop, and the usb port on my laptop didn't keep up with the amount I was messing with it, it could just be completely dead. I don't know. I'm an idiot and I apologize about all the gapps I'm giving you guys with information. I'm doing the best I can, but bottom line is after it didn't work at first, I tried a few different recoveries with Hasoons tool kit, and a couple different roms but the roms never loaded. Always failed.
The phone I have I believe to be the One X, but I don't know the difference. When I booted my phone, it did the HTC Quietly Brilliant screen, then the ATT Rethink possible screen. What is the difference between the one X and one XL? I thought the XL was a larger version of the phone unfortunately, and now I'm seeing differently. It's the ATT phone, 16 gb internal storage, mini sim on the top, Dual Core processor not quad core.
With your battery being so low and possibly even dead when you tried to do anything with it, could have a problem. The other problem, if my memory is correct in what I was reading the Endeavoru cyanogen ROM is for the X only, international version. If yours is AT&T like you say, if the flash was performed correctly.... I hate to say this but you might have a nice $500 paperweight, for now. I would PM Abdolutelygrim and see what he thinks, unless he isn't already here.. his current project is unbricking Evita.
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The phone I have I believe to be the One X, but I don't know the difference. When I booted my phone, it did the HTC Quietly Brilliant screen, then the ATT Rethink possible screen. What is the difference between the one X and one XL? I thought the XL was a larger version of the phone unfortunately, and now I'm seeing differently. It's the ATT phone, 16 gb internal storage, mini sim on the top, Dual Core processor not quad core.
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You have what we call an HTC one xl or AT&T one x. The phones look almost exactly the same but the internal components are completely different. (youre in the right forum)
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I went through almost the same thing last night, with the exception of my battery dying. In the event that you are able to get the phone to charge, this guide helped me get my phone working again.
Good luck!
The phone was fully charged when I began, and I periodically connected and disconnected it when I was having my initial problems. I deleted my cache dalvic cache, etc everything after I saved all my important pictures and videos and files etc. so I just deleted everything to start over fresh. I don't know what the hell I did. I just figured this wouldnt be too hard since I did it with 2 of my own phones in the past, and a few friends phones also. I think my problem may have been with being ignorant and not knowing there were multiple versions of this phone that all look identical but aren't. Ohhhhhhhh boy. This is bad lol.
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I think my problem may have been with being ignorant and not knowing there were multiple versions of this phone that all look identical but aren't. Ohhhhhhhh boy. This is bad lol.
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That is indeed your problem. The One X and One XL use a different partition layout, and international roms will attempt to overwrite the One XL boot partition. Hboot is wp in 2.20 but not in earlier versions. Even so, you can end up with corrupted firmware even if hboot is untouched. Numerous people have done it. Some devs are working on a way to fix this. Here's the thread, you'll need to get yourself in the queue or just see if you can get a replacement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966850
Replacement isn't an option. I didn't get a chance to get insurance on it because I cracked the digitizer within the first 2 weeks of having the phone, and I opened it last night to see if something from when I cracked the digitizer came loose causing the phone to not boot. Thanks for the feedback so far guys. I'm not expecting miracles. I put myself into this mess, I'm just really hoping someone may be able to fix it soon. Not having a phone is really going to put a damper on my side work. Can't get phone calls from people on craigslist if I don't have a phone SH!T
Do you know what firmware your phone was on before you did this........it will be the determining factor if it's fixable atm
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I'm wondering if when I was trying to use CWM it screwed me up too. I read in a few peoples signatures that CWM also isn't compatable with the One XL. I feel like the biggest jackass. I'm the computer/cell phone/electronics guy in my area, and now I feel as if I should go into early retirement. I will stay open minded and hopeful that absolutelygrim and others come up with a solution, but bottom line, for all you guys that have made this process damn near idiot proof for people like me, I want to say thanks, and also apologize for all of us noobs that make something as simple as knowing what you are doing before you do it and following directions harder for the developers. It's awesome you guys do what you do in your spare time, only for people like myself to make it more of a hastle. Once again, thanks for trying to fix this guys. My bad.
18th... I was on 2.20. I read that there is a work around for 1.80(I think that's the firmware), but either way, yes I was on 2.20. I have been looking once a week for a new exploit to be able to root the one x, since there wasnt any options until about a week ago if you had 2.20. I bet that's why there are so many people screwing this up. They, like myself, are probably so eager to root it they don't take their time. I remember the first time I rooted my HTC inspire I took about 3-4 hours because I quadrouple checked what I was doing. And damn it am I kicking myself in the ass that I didn't do that this time around.
The problem was the endeavor Rom....but depending on what firmware you were on, 1.85 or 2.20 it can be fixed. If you were on 1.85 or below, it's fixable right now. If 2.20 then not atm.
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I'm wondering if when I was trying to use CWM it screwed me up too. I read in a few peoples signatures that CWM also isn't compatable with the One XL.
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The problem with CWM is that the version for the One XL is an unsupported port. So it's buggy, but the worst I've heard of it doing is corrupting people's sd card or occasionally borking installs, both of which are easily fixable.
The only time I've heard of CWM bricking One XL phones is when people use ROM Manager (which isn't supported for this phone, though GP will let you install it anyway) to install the endeavour version, which causes the same problem as flashing an endeavour rom.
Dang.. I thought it was just icecoldjelly that been banging up peoples OneX. I guess the new hboots aren't as noob-proof as we thought
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Dang.. I thought it was just icecoldjelly that been banging up peoples OneX. I guess the new hboots aren't as noob-proof as we thought
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It very well could be just Ice Cold Jelly. There is no guarantee something else I did last night bricked my phone. I know I attempted ICJ, and a few other stupid and ignorant attempts. But, I would guess it was from that.
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I know I attempted ICJ
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There you are. That is surely the culprit.
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There you are. That is surely the culprit.
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Lol... I knew I could get it out of him
Just jokin, hope everything works out OP... just keep following absolutelygrimm's unbricking thread and hope for a breakthrough
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