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Reason for my question? This: http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/22/htc-adopting-android-on-50-of-its-handsets-in-2010/
Going to quite a few iPhone topics here (and made one myself), I know that a lot of you guys here seem to love WinMo (at least more than OSX), so seeing this piece of news was kind of interesting.
As we all know and as the article reiterates, the vast majority of current HTC phones are WinMo-based. The rumor is that it's eventually going to go down to 50%-based with the other 50% being Android. Of course, it's a rumor, but the articles states that HTC is already on the way to being 30% Android-based, so how unlikely is it really?
Now let me go a bit further: As it is, HTC is currently 90% WinMo-based. With the speed at which they seem to be moving (2% to 50% Android-based in one year?), who is to say they won't eventually be 90% Android-based? If this does happen, though, as we see now, XDA could easily simply add the Android-based phones with little issue. On the other hand, as we also see now with Android-based phones, the design may become more limited instead of the numerous designs available for WinMo-based phones.
But...would you guys continue to purchase HTC phones? Is your love of HTC phones all dependent upon the support of XDA-developers or can you simply not switch from WinMo?
Personally, I am pretty OS independent. I can work with any phone. However, if I do have to switch from WinMo, then I would prefer to switch to either iPhone (yeah, yeah, I know) or the Palm Pre (WebOS' increasing popularity and great usability). As it is, I'm not very interested in Android, and Google...has done/say a few things in the past to make me doubt if they'll give proper support to Android. So personally, if HTC does switch to being almost completely Android-based, then truthfully, I probably would not continue purchasing HTC.
ofcourse.
however, i am not "loyal" to any OS or company. whoever makes the best device that suits my needs gets the money.
Well
They would increase their Android models but WM will still be there, so it´s just another option to stay with HTC
Personally I think Android can be good in the future, when they achieve a more mature and solid OS, meantime I´m with WM and of course HTC
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ofcourse.
however, i am not "loyal" to any OS or company. whoever makes the best device that suits my needs gets the money.
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Well, I wasn't referring to company/OS loyalty; my apology if I gave that impression. What I really meant was a question of how much one likes using Windows Mobile vs how much one likes XDA support.
As I said, I'm presuming there's a certain number of people here who likes WinMo, so I'm trying to gauge how many people would stick with HTC in the case of such a large move. From your post, I'm assuming you'll go with the best device regardless of OS or XDA support, though?
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They would increase their Android models but WM will still be there, so it´s just another option to stay with HTC
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True, but I'm guessing one's choices may also become a bit more limited if HTC's Android support increases even further. Look at HTC's list of Android-based phones now. If you happen to not like any of the *three* choices, whether it be due to design, specs, or whatever other reason, then you're pretty much out of luck, aren't you?
On the other hand, if you don't like one HTC WinMo-based phone, you literally have a dozen other choices in various designs and specs to fit your desire.
My Understanding is that MS doesn’t work and listen well with the manufacturer. There are many complains on current WinMo capabilities and how time consuming it is to write application for it. Furthermore complains also go in to the development speed of the WM7 which no one knows anything about it. Therefore some HTC press release could be aiming of putting serious pressure to MS. Furthermore been only on WinMo leads HTC very depended on MS. I believe that is very important point by certain negotiations between HTC and MS.
Therefore it is only understandable that HTC starting put more weight on a second pillar. Besides developing own OS the Android is the best option for HTC for shaping and driving an Operation Platform for their Devices.
Anyhow that Large Companies like HTC, Samsung and some others paying serious attention to Android indicating very bright future for Android. It is most likely now that those companies will speed up the process growing young OS to maturate. WinMo and MS is really under pressure now, if Wm7 doesn’t bring the expected wowww change then it will no other way then to say... Good bye WinMo
Not sure if I really need another OS in the mix. I wouldn't mind a device that can do both Android and WinMo but only Android ... probably not. Then I might as well make the jump to the iPhone.
I certainly wouldn't rule out Android. As somebody who uses a lot of Google's webservices, Android has a definite appeal. There's a few WM-specific apps I'd miss, but the app ecosystem for Android will only improve as time goes one.
However, I've been pretty darn happy with Microsoft's direction lately (Win 7, Zune, and the Xbox 360 are all great products). I wouldn't buy another WM6 device, but I'm definitely going to be following WM7 closely.
I still think HTC has some of the best ID guys in the business (aesthetically I prefer the TD2 and TP2 to anything on the market) and they're very talented and making software tweaks, but they really need to raise the bar for hardware specs and quality if they want me to keep buying HTC devices, regardless of the OS.
edit: And agreeing with coolVariable, I'd love a device that could easily be configured to run either natively. That would be an instant sale from me. I have a feeling MS's licensing wouldn't make it easy, though.
I'd switch in a heartbeat to anything different from HTC/WinMo as long as it's available on my Sprint SERO plan.
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My Understanding is that MS doesn’t work and listen well with the manufacturer. There are many complains on current WinMo capabilities and how time consuming it is to write application for it.
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Hmm, if this is the case, it may explain partly why HTC is betting so much on Android so suddenly. To be honest, if it is the case, I wouldn't be surprised either. I've seen similar techniques employed by other companies in other industries recently too.
Still, corporate shenanigans or not, 50% still seems like a massive shift to me, but I'm guessing the plan might change if their 2009 30% path becomes bumpy.
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Not sure if I really need another OS in the mix. I wouldn't mind a device that can do both Android and WinMo but only Android ... probably not. Then I might as well make the jump to the iPhone.
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Both Android and WinMo? You mean sort of a dual boot deal or simply a device that can install either Android or WinMo roms? That would be fantastic; I think we can all agree on that. I think we can all agree too that it's unlikely.
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True, but I'm guessing one's choices may also become a bit more limited if HTC's Android support increases even further. Look at HTC's list of Android-based phones now. If you happen to not like any of the *three* choices, whether it be due to design, specs, or whatever other reason, then you're pretty much out of luck, aren't you?
On the other hand, if you don't like one HTC WinMo-based phone, you literally have a dozen other choices in various designs and specs to fit your desire.
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I don´t think so, there are so many models with WM to choose from, and there will be more coming.
The actual number of Andorid models is low, and as you said, it will increase, but that is good so more options will be available.
As I said, I´ll stick to HTC WM models, at least in following 2 years...Then we can see what is Android doing and perhaps I can consider...
Great thread!
I think I will continue buying HTC phones even if there was a large Android base, even more than 50%. I like Android and all, and maybe in the future I may even take one myself, but WM is so customizable and i have it just the way i like it and wouldnt change it for anything (except for a newer more powerful device maybe tegra/snapdragon which im holding out for)
I have to give credit where credit is due: if it wasn't for this site, my tp may have been my first and last winmo phone. I wouldnt have the functionality and great experience that i do now without the help of the folks here.
BTW, I think this thread would benefit greatly from a poll, as many dont have the time to post, but everyone has time to vote.
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I don´t think so, there are so many models with WM to choose from, and there will be more coming.
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Yes, currently, but if HTC does shift to majority Android-based phones, then the number of WinMo-based models will inevitably go down (in favor of Android-based models instead), which will then result in a lack of choices.
Nonetheless, I do agree with you. If Android eventually shows more promise, I would reconsider too, but at this point, I still prefer to switch to OSX/WebOS if I have to leave WinMo.
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BTW, I think this thread would benefit greatly from a poll, as many dont have the time to post, but everyone has time to vote.
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Hmm, you're right. I don't know how I missed that simple bit of fact. Unfortunately, I think it's a bit late for me to make a poll now.
P.S. Thank you for the compliment.
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Well, I wasn't referring to company/OS loyalty; my apology if I gave that impression. What I really meant was a question of how much one likes using Windows Mobile vs how much one likes XDA support.
As I said, I'm presuming there's a certain number of people here who likes WinMo, so I'm trying to gauge how many people would stick with HTC in the case of such a large move. From your post, I'm assuming you'll go with the best device regardless of OS or XDA support, though?
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i knew what you were asking. and you are correct. i'll go with the best device regardless of OS or XDA support right now.
i mean, right now im using an IPhone because it was the best for me at the time. and now i want to switch to the Tp2. saying "i won't buy XXXX device because it is made by XXXX company and runs XXXX Operating system severely limits choices.
Why of course!!!!
anyone got any? I'm a supporter of WP7 so I'm not so good at selling android but she wants to know so yeah. Any ideas o_0
You should really take her to Bestbuy so she can try one out. The phone is too big to be practical in my opinion.
Well, it's Android, so it's automatically superior.
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If laggy mediocre unattractive UIs are your thing I guess. I prefer something fluid. WP7 may not yet have the market but hey, it's doing better than android right out of the gate and the vast majority of ours arent ringtone packs and fart apps.
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If laggy mediocre unattractive UIs are your thing I guess. I prefer something fluid. WP7 may not yet have the market but hey, it's doing better than android right out of the gate and the vast majority of ours arent ringtone packs and fart apps.
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Maybe you have lag on 2 year old devices. There's absolutely zero on my EVO. Also, the vast majority of your apps aren't anything because you barely have any apps on WP7. According to Koush (from the CyanogoenMod team), the app approval process for WP7 development is also a nightmare, so I wouldn't expect it to garner much attention on that front. WP7 is basically dead in the water (like BlackBerry) because it can't compete with Android and iOS.
your going to get bored with the streak if you plan on making use of it for daily use, HD7 is sleek and compact, plus android is good is your going to tweak, personally i dont like android out of the box
The big difference between the two: Streak works on ATT's 3G, HD7 works on T-Mo's. However, if you're not tied to any one carrier, the big thing to take into consideration is the deliciously monstrous screen. I've only played with a demo unit, but even running Android 1.6, it was a fun unit to play with. The deal killer for me was that I would be using it as my primary phone, and the awesomest feature, the giant screen, is also its biggest drawback, as it would cause it to not fit in my pants. However, since women carry those purse things, and otterbox makes an outlandishly large case for it to protect it from other purse-bound items, it may be an option. As mentioned above, take her to best buy and let her play with a unit. That'll be the best way to let her see if she'd like one. They've also recently dropped to $100 on contract, which sweetens the deal considerably.
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Maybe you have lag on 2 year old devices. There's absolutely zero on my EVO. Also, the vast majority of your apps aren't anything because you barely have any apps on WP7. According to Koush (from the CyanogoenMod team), the app approval process for WP7 development is also a nightmare, so I wouldn't expect it to garner much attention on that front. WP7 is basically dead in the water (like BlackBerry) because it can't compete with Android and iOS.
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I thought that as well until I played with WP7
the lack of GPU acceleration is a dealbreaker.
The main reason for it being harder on apps than android is so we don't get cluttered with garbage apps like ringtone apps and hundreds of fart apps. Android may have more but 99 percent of it is things no intelligent person would touch. WP7 is a more practical approach and not meant for third graders. That paired with a much better UI, well, theres not too much that could go wrong.
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I thought that as well until I played with WP7
the lack of GPU acceleration is a dealbreaker.
The main reason for it being harder on apps than android is so we don't get cluttered with garbage apps like ringtone apps and hundreds of fart apps. Android may have more but 99 percent of it is things no intelligent person would touch. WP7 is a more practical approach and not meant for third graders. That paired with a much better UI, well, theres not too much that could go wrong.
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Hmm. Let me take a look at the Android Market. No, I can't say I see ANY "fart apps or ringtone apps." Of course, I don't look for new apps by browsing the "just in" category. The "top apps" categories and new "similar" tab provide everything I need for a junk-free Market experience. Oh, and I like my homescreen to be more than a bunch of boring, solid-colored boxes. That "speed" you mention comes heavily at the cost of customization.
no its the lack of gpu acceleration. no cost just poor software. Last I checked I wasnt a 3rd grader who needed a pic of the girl Im crushing on for a homescreen. I'm happy with constantly updated tiles that at one quick glance tell me everything thats going on. Now can anyone tell me any benefits aside from gaming to this OS not the typical fanboy reply "It's better by default." I honestly cant come up with one other plus aside from size.
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The main reason for it being harder on apps than android is so we don't get cluttered with garbage apps like ringtone apps and hundreds of fart apps. Android may have more but 99 percent of it is things no intelligent person would touch. WP7 is a more practical approach and not meant for third graders. That paired with a much better UI, well, theres not too much that could go wrong.
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Stop regurgitating whatever Steve Jobs says. What's with your fixation on fart apps and ringtones?
If you're asking for opinions, act like a grown-up and consider what others are sharing with you. If you want to dismiss everything as OMFGANDROIDSUXLULZZZ then stop wasting everybody's time, go get a goddamn WP7 phone. Stop trolling and GTFO.
Actually I was an android fanboy since the G1, I loved it and would not touch an iphone .with a 10 foot pole. Odds are I've done more to android phones than you or many others. I still root and flash android phones as a side job. I also build my own roms for the nexus one and a few others. I would like a valid reason other than gaming that the streak is better than the HD7 because she is generally interested in the large screen. But you know, with your all caps 1337sp33k you totally showed how capable you are of acting like an adult.
Wow you root and flash Android phones? Dude, you're so pro! Remember, you're the one saying Android is for third graders... so I'm not even going to waste any more time discussing adult-like behavior with you.
Again, if nothing can convince you that Android at its state today is superior to WP7, then by all means go get a WP7 phone. What's holding you up? It seems like you have already made your decision. So, stop fishing for opinions that you know you will dismiss without consideration, and go buy your wife the HD7. I sincerely hope you both enjoy it. WP7 isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it hasn't reached the maturity that Android has. That's the general concensus and there's not much you can change there.
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Wow you root and flash Android phones? Dude, you're so pro! Remember, you're the one saying Android is for third graders... so I'm not even going to waste any more time discussing adult-like behavior with you.
Again, if nothing can convince you that Android at its state today is superior to WP7, then by all means go get a WP7 phone. What's holding you up? It seems like you have already made your decision. So, stop fishing for opinions that you know you will dismiss without consideration, and go buy your wife the HD7. I sincerely hope you both enjoy it. WP7 isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination, but it hasn't reached the maturity that Android has. That's the general concensus and there's not much you can change there.
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No, the desire to customize a UI just doesnt make sense to me. I mean with android itt did because with the UI it would just be bland without customization but the same customization is not necessary on a windows phone. I want herto get the streak because I know she likes it and regardless I still like android it's just not right for the business oriented consumer (me) but she wants a fun phone. I just want to know aside from market is there anything that android beats out WP7 on. That is my one simple question. I know it is a more fun phone but she wants hard facts. I'm already sold on the streak for her taste to be honest. It's her opinion as well however and she (like most women my age) can't make up her mind about anything.
^ dude you are so funny. You bash android every chance you get. First in the WP7 forum, now in the general forums. What are you seeking, vengeance?
The only thing I bashed was when someone said "It's android, it's better by default." I want her to get android because it's better suited for her and she wants a huge screen so I thought streak instantly. I ask the members of the community for facts because she wants them and in return get biased statements that have nothing to do with specs. All I'm asking for is facts.
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The only thing I bashed was when someone said "It's android, it's better by default." I want her to get android because it's better suited for her and she wants a huge screen so I thought streak instantly. I ask the members of the community for facts because she wants them and in return get biased statements that have nothing to do with specs. All I'm asking for is facts.
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The same way that it is a "fact" that Android apps are nothing but ring tones and fart apps?
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I don't know what your wife wants in a phone, but the only "apps" my wife uses on her current phone are the browser and solitaire, which work well in both Android and WP7, so as far as it would apply to her, the flamewar between Android and WP7 would make no difference, and I don't know why it has been carried into this thread. As far as the streak and HD7 are concerned, both are gigahertz devices with half a gig of ram and gorilla glass. The streak has a larger LCD, but it's tft as opposed to the hd7's slcd, so there is that. Also, memory cards on the streak can be shuffled around without busting your warranty, so if the OP's wife moves a lot of data around, that could be important. Also, wp7 has Netflix streaming support, so of you're retarded for Netflix like I am, that may factor in. The streak also uses a goofy proprietary cable, which really doesn't make much difference, but does rub me the wrong way for a reason that I don't fully understand. Other than that, not sure what would be relevant to the OP's question.
I never stated that that was all androids market was composed of. It is composed of some of the best games and that's why I'd think she'd find it more appealing. Someone brought about the fact that the apps on WP7 were harder to get approved and I stated that is to prevent the majority of the market from being junk apps. I'm sorry but 186 different fart machines on android. That says nothing about the system just the app people. I do want to thank the post before mine for those facts, you have sold her on the streak where I couldnt because I don't know much about it's android experience (Dell's custom UI or whatever) and I appreciate that.
No prob, man. Glad to help. I do stress that you should take her to go play with a physical unit before committing to the purchase, though. It is surprisingly thin and easy to hold, but any pressure on the screen makes it do that weird LCD color-smudge thing, and while I was able to use it easily, there were times that the digitizer wasn't reading my swiping gestures correctly. Honestly though, now that it's down to $100 on contract, I'm regretting having cashed-in my upgrade already. What was unreasonable to purchase for $300 is pretty tempting at $100. Oh well, still won't fit in my pants, lol.
Hi Please help I'm in a dilema:
I've always been a Windows fan & was keen to upgrade to WinPhone 7.5 Unfortunatley HTC will not be launching HTC Titan in South Africa. I'm hesitant importing. I've also read that Mango and Apple does not give you option to customise & skin.
I started thinking that I should try the HTC Sensation, but worried having to learn all about a new OS & how to customise etc. Does Droid have live tiles/widgets like Mango?
Your thoughts and suggesteions will be greatly appreciated.
in terms of learning, I'd say you have nothing to fear from android, it's all very intuitive and the learning curve is small. interface is highly customizable in terms of widgets and so on...
The sensation is my first android phone, and after two weeks heavy use I don't regret my decision at all -it's a great phone!
I would recommend you go to some stores with demo models and spend some time playing around with different phones to get a more real world sense of what feels better suited towards YOUR needs!
whatever it ends up being, I hope you enjoy your new phone!
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I'm hesitant importing.
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The most important thing to look at when importing is making sure that the baseband of the device matches your carriers. This includes GSM/CDMA bands and 3/4g bands.
I've also read that Mango and Apple does not give you option to customise & skin.
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If customizing is important to you then Android is by far the best. iPhone and WP7 both are superior "out of the box" IMO. With Android you can always change your launcher to one with tiles or one that resembles iPhone but it won't be as polished as the originals.
I started thinking that I should try the HTC Sensation, but worried having to learn all about a new OS & how to customise etc. Does Droid have live tiles/widgets like Mango?
Your thoughts and suggesteions will be greatly appreciated.
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They all have the same basic learning curve, it'll depend on you as to how quickly you pick it up. Advanced customizing and modding of Android is where the learning curve begins to increase. Rooting and installing a custom recovery for the first time can be nerve racking but after the that, skies the limit.
If you're hesitant spend sometime in the stores and play with them like others suggested. Or by a used Android, if you don't like it or find it to difficult to customize you can sell it for minimal to no loss. Or sell it and buy a new device if you do like it.
It is only difficult to the person who cannot read, interpret and understand. Other than that it is easy.
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android FTW. if you get a higher end device, you won't have any issues, ever.
stay away from iPhones, they suck. everyone here will agree with that
and Mango is all up to personal taste. if you like giant square tiles, very few apps, a very juvenile color scheme, an unintuitive UI (IMHO), and social media stuff everywhere, then i won't stand in your way. but MAKE SURE you try before you buy.
Try it yourself
If you got your first android phone, it could be hard in the beginning to understand, but once you are familiar with it, it is a very nice OS which is also highly customizable.
I don't know if you have a shop in your area where they sell phones with WP7, Android and iPhones. If you do, I would go there and try all of them.
But my opinion is; go for an phone with Android. You will learn quite fast and easy.
I would go with iphone 4s without hesitation. I really want to try that siri thing, besides, Apple never let us down. I have faith for them.
honestly android is dope man, i've tried all three systems and they all have there good and bads but i like customizing android since i could basically make whatever i want look the way i want it, design and everything. although live tiles are cool but so are live widgets and what not >.< and iOS is cool to customize i still think iphones and tabs are dope regardless. plus i own a sensation myself and man it is a bad*** phone bro. with or without being modded.
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Android 10/10
Windows 7.5 7/10
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Why? The main reason is like everyone else has said, you are pretty much free to customize what you want on Android. Windows you're quite limited and on IOS you are severely limited.
This is just...For the fun of it. I can enjoy a bit of philosophising once in a while. I was playing around with devices of almost every manufacturer (except Motorola, sorry), and thought about the particular quirks and advantages of smartphones.
It might be nice for me first to zoom out to the platform level. There are a few platforms used right now. WP7, Android, BB, iOS come to mind as the main ones. Most smartphones developed and sold are tailored towards a particular operating system. This defines their capabilities, their limitations, and their general goal during their lifespan.
I will address each briefly:
WP7: With the latest Mango, these phones are tailored to social networking. The Lumia 800, for example, is certainly an impressive device in that capacity.
Android: These phones tend to be for people who want to play around with their OS. They generally offer large touchscreens and fast dual-core processors (the latest phones do, at least). One of the dogmas seems to be multimedia ease. I will ask a question about such phones that I will get back to later: "Is there such a thing as too large?".
BB: These phones and the operating system they run on were designed with security in mind. They offer physical keyboards which are unrivalled. RIM also have the best data technology on the market. I like to think of BBs as having the functionality of bricks, but being as hard to take down as bricks as well. These phones are far behind everyone else, but I would state that they are very stable. They also are, potentially, the best phones. I use "phones" in the forgotten capacity: for making calls. They possess the best radios.
iOS: BE UNIQUE! Well, it somewhat worked until everyone and his grandmother had an iPhone. I, personally, despise lowercase "i"s, so have never been tempted that way. What do they offer? Apps. Many, many, many apps. Need I say more? Apple started out with a brilliant idea of how to sell products to the masses (yes, I am quite fond of The Affluent Society), but they have not improved much upon that idea since its inception.
These are obviously non-exhaustive notes. The general purpose of the information written above is to determine the role of smartphones.
Addressing Android, you have speed and power. But is it necessary? The Galaxy Note is awkward. The Galaxy SII is also reasonably so. These devices try to provide a Web and gaming experience, combined with all-around functionality. Sure, they have large screens in order to provide that experience, but a tablet can perform the same things better (refer to Asus Transformer Prime). Is there a point to those functions on a phone? I want to stress "phone" again, since it seems we have strayed so far from the functions of a phone.
Nokia have been producing quality plain handsets for a long time. They sell many of these to developing countries. Their place and their existence is, I believe, justified. Whether they are needed with WP7 is another matter.
Blackberry have always targeted businesses and sought to provide fast text inputs on their phones. Their devices are built like bricks, as I said previously. The BB infrastructure is more impressive than BB phones, in my opinion. Especially the Data compression.
Apple, well...Apple is Apple.
I can only peg down three categories: BB for infrastructure, Nokia for supplying the world with phones, Apple and Android for experimentation and multimedia aspects.
So what is the role of smartphones? Are they too developed for their own good? Typing on a 4.5'' screen in landscape mode will never fail to annoy me. Apple's watchful gaze is creepy. RIM's antipathy towards progress is strange.
This is actually quite well done and addresses the various brands and OS' without being extremely biased that i would be use to=D Bravo and I agree they all have their place
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This is actually quite well done and addresses the various brands and OS' without being extremely biased that i would be use to=D Bravo and I agree they all have their place
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Yay! My freestyle writing is appreciated! =)
Thanks!
Hoping that a few people will want to post their opinions and discuss. After all, we are passionate about smartphones. Otherwise we would not be on here.
Thought I would add something on my "brick" line of thinking. I and a friend got two different phones at approximately the same time in 2008. I got the BlackBerry Storm 9530. He got the HTC Dream (or G1, whichever you prefer to call it). Mine looks, feels, functions as if brand new. His is in a sorry state.
Yeah , I understand your pain of large phones , but some people just don't like tablets and want phones to have tablet-like functionality .
Don't bash me please ! *prones*
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Yeah , I understand your pain of large phones , but some people just don't like tablets and want phones to have tablet-like functionality .
Don't bash me please ! *prones*
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For site about smartphones, I would have thought more people would be interested in this topic. But I suppose I am targeting obsessions...Try telling an iPhone user that iPhones are not the best, or that they are not particularly unique.
What is a phone??? Lol but seriously I do agree we have strayed far away from the cellphone era. We have entered a new age that began in 2005, which I like to refer to as the connected age. With the growing number of smartphone users it is easy to track down anyone you want. Everyone is connected to everyone. Our phones grow larger in size every 6months. I remember when I wanted the smallest most compact flip phone. The bigger it was the uglier it was. Now.... anything under 4.3 inches I cant even use lol. I predict in ten years smartphones will be non existing. It will be converted to tabs. U can buy a tablet for half the price of a brand new sgs2.
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I disagree with tablets being "better" that smartphones or smartphones being replaced by tablets, not everyone can or want to travel with a tab everywhere
A phones portability will trump most of times(a quick pic, quick vid, listening to music, browsing in the crapper,etc)
What i mean is that your not always able to go with a carrying bag(well girls can) or a notebook sized thing in your hands, thats when the mini tab in ur pocket comes to use
Might not be as good as a tablet for somethings but its still performs ok and makes calls, and its very easy to carry around
On the other hand, if the tablets are to replace something, is the laptop
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I disagree with tablets being "better" that smartphones or smartphones being replaced by tablets, not everyone can or want to travel with a tab everywhere
A phones portability will trump most of times(a quick pic, quick vid, listening to music, browsing in the crapper,etc)
What i mean is that your not always able to go with a carrying bag(well girls can) or a notebook sized thing in your hands, thats when the mini tab in ur pocket comes to use
Might not be as good as a tablet for somethings but its still performs ok and makes calls, and its very easy to carry around
On the other hand, if the tablets are to replace something, is the laptop
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OP: you don't seem to understand that people in this era want more than just a phone, if you are complaining that smartphones these days are too advanced to be a phone, then go and get a nokia from 1998 and stop posting on XDA.
The only argument I have is that in which you seem to feel that Blackberry devices are superior in terms of security. I disagree, and also feel that a SPoF has finally shown blackberry devices to be vastly inferior in terms of both security and content delivery.
Food for thought: the US Gov't has finally decided to branch out from the bricks of yesteryear, and now are starting to allow iOS, W*, and A* devices on the AEN with server side security policy implementation. That's saying a lot since they've previously only allowed a BBD on the AEN as all other devices "couldn't be secured". Kinda hard to secure a RIM server in Canada...
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inv3stment said:
OP: you don't seem to understand that people in this era want more than just a phone, if you are complaining that smartphones these days are too advanced to be a phone, then go and get a nokia from 1998 and stop posting on XDA.
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That's like, just his opinion, man. Why you have to flame home for it, man
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inv3stment said:
OP: you don't seem to understand that people in this era want more than just a phone, if you are complaining that smartphones these days are too advanced to be a phone, then go and get a nokia from 1998 and stop posting on XDA.
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thisisbrian said:
What is a phone??? Lol but seriously I do agree we have strayed far away from the cellphone era. We have entered a new age that began in 2005, which I like to refer to as the connected age. With the growing number of smartphone users it is easy to track down anyone you want. Everyone is connected to everyone. Our phones grow larger in size every 6months. I remember when I wanted the smallest most compact flip phone. The bigger it was the uglier it was. Now.... anything under 4.3 inches I cant even use lol. I predict in ten years smartphones will be non existing. It will be converted to tabs. U can buy a tablet for half the price of a brand new sgs2.
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I disagree with tablets being "better" that smartphones or smartphones being replaced by tablets, not everyone can or want to travel with a tab everywhere
A phones portability will trump most of times(a quick pic, quick vid, listening to music, browsing in the crapper,etc)
What i mean is that your not always able to go with a carrying bag(well girls can) or a notebook sized thing in your hands, thats when the mini tab in ur pocket comes to use
Might not be as good as a tablet for somethings but its still performs ok and makes calls, and its very easy to carry around
On the other hand, if the tablets are to replace something, is the laptop
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It is not that I am a great fan of BlackBerry. It is just that I am very uneasy about Androids. What is to say you will not be charged $1,000 on your next bill due to an exploit allowing premium text messages to be sent from your device without your knowledge?
Yes, I have a bias towards security. We have Facebook and Twitter, which are used as breeding grounds for all sorts of mayhem...Obviously all they have done is displayed all our private information to the whole world. That is really going to be regretted by everyone using those services...Sooner or later. We have the multimedia Androids which ignore fundamental issues and have grown too large to comfortably use. HAVE YOU NEVER HAD TO REALLY STRETCH YOUR FINGER TO REACH AN ICON, OR USE ANOTHER HAND?
Regarding tablets, are we really suggesting that they can beat laptops at anything important? If the general stream is towards mass procrastination, tablets have helped us achieve that. But I do not see the next 10 years seeing tablets replacing laptops.
Well, i still think the future of the laptop and notebook is the tablet
And blackberrys are not as safe as you think they are
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smartphones - of any kind - are the functional equivalent of the light bulb. game changer. amazing tech advance.
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smartphones - of any kind - are the functional equivalent of the light bulb. game changer. amazing tech advance.
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Some of the biggest advances are as simple as a dung when analized deeply but still revolutionary
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I've been a fan of Smartphones for a while. I have a Samsung Galaxy Ace, mainly because I couldnt afford the SII at the time. I like the Bigger phones cause i can use it for reading, watching media, surfing the web, looking at pictures, etc...
Personally I'm hoping to get a galaxy note for my birthday next year as its perfect for everything I like to do with my phone.
For me, smartphone is a universal device which is computer replacement anywhere, where there are no computers.
I'm trying to get a windows phone and I was wondering if it was good
Welcome! Everyone has different preferences, so what one person may like/dislike may be different for you. I suggest you make a trip to a store which has some windows phones on display for you to play around with. Also, read some reviews on a few of the phones you are interested in. That may help in making your decision on a phone. Best of luck in your search!
its not bad but as the others said it boils down to personal preference, go to the store and try different os..
cheers
Windows Phones are great for the average user. But for people that pay attention to the market, id recommend waiting for Windows Phone 8 since current users wont be upgraded and will be basically crippled from further development and platform growth
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I have to say a pure phone windows phones are pretty good. Stable, easy/fast to use and do what you need but as a user said already they are dumbed down and you don't have much for freedom to customize....
To nutshell it if you want games/apps/freedom don't get a windows phone. If you want a phone that just works as a phone/social networking device have at it.
I have a wp7.5 phone and its strictly a backup handset I just can't justify losing all the freedoms and features of android.
P.s. Windows phone GPS apps suck pretty bad compared to Google maps.
Pin it to Win it.
I agree with the above two. A personal preference for sure. Is it good, yes, it makes and receives calls and a good Social Media device. Depending what your specific needs are, you have the big 3 (iOS, Android and Windows Phone) to choose from. Play with them, check out the phones in person, verify they have the apps you want to use. etc..they all work well, just choose the one that fits your needs and that is all that matters!
Great for average users and very user friendly, but nothing much man can do with it.
if you only want call, sms, surfing.. its quite good. But im an android flashaholic
Lol, no.
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Everybody should wait for Nokia WP8 pureview phones, they will make other phones embarassing.
Maybe WP8 may bring you a lot of surprise:silly:
If you wanna get one, just go symbian for better battery life lol
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I think of windows phones as a middle between Android and iOS. Not too difficult to use but also not tooooo user-friendly that it seems dumbed down.
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Exactly! Not too complicated with all of the ROMs and rooting that happens with Android, and not as dumb as iOS, with those little squares on the screen that just stare at you with their dumb app logos.
Windows Phones are cool, depending on what type of user you are.
I had a hard time with the when i had my HD7, but alot has changed since then. Way more feature and apps.
Best bet for you will be to wait for the Windows Phone 8 devices, they will be great and will have SD card slot.
Good Luck:good:
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In my honest opinion, Windows Phones are extremely dull. (Well at least WP7.5)
Pros:
Unbelievably fluid
Xbox Live, kinda
Bloatware can be deleted without hacking
Great keyboard. And I mean great, after using it I tried to find a port of it for Android
Cons:
Apps in the Marketplace are waaaay overpriced
There are barely any apps, let alone good apps
Barely customizable home screen, which may appeal to others
The UI is strange, with all the slide swipes and tiles, which once again may appeal
I really missed the menu button from Android, and the search key only takes you to Bing, so unlike Android won't vary from app to app
Auto rotation support was inconsistent
Notifications we pretty crappy
That was my experience with WP7 but with WP8 a lot may change, I really do not know because I don't follow Windows Phone news.
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