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[Q] Which ROM for a non-techie wife

My wife uses an Evo Shift and has essentially hated it from day one. We are still locked under contract for another 8 months or she would move to an iPhone (what I use). A major frustration of hers was battery life so I recently purchased some 1700mAh replacement batteries. These batteries have been performing well but in my investigation I learned that I should wipe the battery stats. Obviously to do that I need to root so the last few days I've been reading about rooting and the benefits.
As I've been reading about rooting I realize that I should probably install a new ROM to hopefully solve some of the other things she hates with her Shift (or Android). The biggest issue is that she still experiences the Sense home screen crash but she complains about everything from dropped calls, bluetooth not connecting, app crashes, slow performance and more. I don't know how much of her issues are Sprint vs. Evo Shift vs. software but at this point I figure trying something new couldn't hurt.
I don't want to lose some of the visual eye candy of Android and I do think she likes the interface of HTC Sense if only it would work properly. So rather than installing something like CyanogenMod which I believe is for power users and sacrifices some eye candy, what HTC Sense ROM would you recommend for a wife who is fed up with Android and just wants her phone to work in a reasonable fashion?
Thanks.

If she wants sense and better battery life I'd go with mikshift V2.0 and flash dodges or x99's kernel.
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Honestly it sounds like she'd be happier on stock rooted sense. I have the latest stock sense rooted on rom manager. Obiously you need root to use rom manager to download any roms. I use x99percent's gingerbread kernel on it and it works great. Some of the other sense roms seem to have some bugs here and there, so if you want a bug free sense rom with root I'd go with stock rooted. Also the benifits of running a stock sense rom is you have the option to remove anything you don't use or want, like the bloat that comes with stock sense. When you remove some of the bloat or unwanted apps the phone seems to perform a little better. You can use something like titanium backup to remove unwanted apps.

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
If she wants sense and better battery life I'd go with mikshift V2.0 and flash dodges or x99's kernel.
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sparksco said:
Honestly it sounds like she'd be happier on stock rooted sense. I have the latest stock sense rooted on rom manager. Obiously you need root to use rom manager to download any roms. I use x99percent's gingerbread kernel on it and it works great. Some of the other sense roms seem to have some bugs here and there, so if you want a bug free sense rom with root I'd go with stock rooted. Also the benifits of running a stock sense rom is you have the option to remove anything you don't use or want, like the bloat that comes with stock sense. When you remove some of the bloat or unwanted apps the phone seems to perform a little better. You can use something like titanium backup to remove unwanted apps.
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Thanks for the replies.
I'm certainly new with Rooting and trying to freshen up on the language. A few questions. Does a stock sense rom essentially mean that I root but don't install any ROM and just use the HTC Sense that she already has on the phone?
Also, I am seeing mention of flashing the kernel which I thought I would stay away from. It just seemed scarier to me but I would be willing to give it a try if you think it is essential in getting performance. Is there any reason to be more concerned with flashing the kernel as opposed to rooting or a custom ROM or is it more a "once you start down the path to the dark side forever will it dominate your destiny?" kind of thing? In other words if you are going to go ahead and root don't half a$$ it and make sure you get the full experience?
Thanks.

ks-man said:
Thanks for the replies.
I'm certainly new with Rooting and trying to freshen up on the language. A few questions. Does a stock sense rom essentially mean that I root but don't install any ROM and just use the HTC Sense that she already has on the phone?
Also, I am seeing mention of flashing the kernel which I thought I would stay away from. It just seemed scarier to me but I would be willing to give it a try if you think it is essential in getting performance. Is there any reason to be more concerned with flashing the kernel as opposed to rooting or a custom ROM or is it more a "once you start down the path to the dark side forever will it dominate your destiny?" kind of thing? In other words if you are going to go ahead and root don't half a$$ it and make sure you get the full experience?
Thanks.
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Well first things first. You do not have to be Rooted to calibrate your battery. You can calibrate the battery without Root. Just follow the instructions HERE. There is also some good info in THIS article. You can run a Stock Sense Rom that is rooted. But how you achieve that depends on your starting point. If your currnetly on 2.3 Gingerbread, then your going to have to downgrade to root. Then flash a Stock Rooted version of 2.3. Your best bet would be x99 Stock Rooted GB if you want to stay completely Stock. But if you want something that is very close to Stock, with a bunch of extras, Uber Stable, and FAST. Then I would Flash MikShiftedG v2.0. The Rom has WiFi, and USB Tether enabled, which is just one of the great extras. Now if your on 2.2 Froyo, then all you have to do is Root. As to your last question about flashing a kernel. I would just root the device if that's the path you choose. Flash a Rom, if you go that route. Then just see how it performs before flashing a Kernel. I would also recomend doing a lot of reading, and ask questions if your unsure. Make sure your comfortable with the process, and what your going to do before doing anything.

prboy1969 said:
Well first things first. You do not have to be Rooted to calibrate your battery. You can calibrate the battery without Root. Just follow the instructions HERE. There is also some good info in THIS article. You can run a Stock Sense Rom that is rooted. But how you achieve that depends on your starting point. If your currnetly on 2.3 Gingerbread, then your going to have to downgrade to root. Then flash a Stock Rooted version of 2.3. Your best bet would be x99 Stock Rooted GB if you want to stay completely Stock. But if you want something that is very close to Stock, with a bunch of extras, Uber Stable, and FAST. Then I would Flash MikShiftedG v2.0. The Rom has WiFi, and USB Tether enabled, which is just one of the great extras. Now if your on 2.2 Froyo, then all you have to do is Root. As to your last question about flashing a kernel. I would just root the device if that's the path you choose. Flash a Rom, if you go that route. Then just see how it performs before flashing a Kernel. I would also recomend doing a lot of reading, and ask questions if your unsure. Make sure your comfortable with the process, and what your going to do before doing anything.
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Yeah but x99percent's is not the latest stock update it's android 2.3.3. The One I have on rom manager is 2.3.4 rooted stock I still use his kernel on it it's wonderfull, but it does not come with his kernel outta the box. The nice thing about a kernel is you can flash it and if you don't like it you can just reflash the rom no wipe or restore to a nandroid backup and you'll be back on the stock kernel pretty much like you said.

Hmmm, then he would be better off with the one you have. If he wants to stay closer to Stock.
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Mik Roms Since 3/13/11

for ****s and giggles try cm7 my wife likes it? Easy an smooth yes she liked cm7 the best. She says because of the options. Have her try them both a good cm7 optimised and a good sense. Not like its going to hurt to try.
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I checked this morning and she is on 2.3.4. I'm not sure when it got updated. Do I still have the same options available as if she was just on 2.3.3? I like the idea of trying Mik Shifted 2.0. From a quick check I think I would be going with the Shift version that is 1.7.6, correct?

Wiping battery stats will not cause any increase in battery life. There's a great read out there that a google employee posted on their G+ page about this. Essentially the battery stats are just one file that stores the info you see in the battery usage info menu. It gets deleted each time you unplug your phone after a full charge anyway. Also, beware of cheap aftermarket batteries that claim a higher mAh capacity than the stock battery as often times they are lower quality cells and will not perform as well. Don't be fooled by low prices on ebay or otherwise, you get what you pay for with batteries.
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ks-man said:
I checked this morning and she is on 2.3.4. I'm not sure when it got updated. Do I still have the same options available as if she was just on 2.3.3? I like the idea of trying Mik Shifted 2.0. From a quick check I think I would be going with the Shift version that is 1.7.6, correct?
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We have a thread on how to root on 2.3.4 I would link you to in but I'm on my phone. Someone will link you to it I'm sure and if not I will when i get home
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
We have a thread on how to root on 2.3.4 I would link you to in but I'm on my phone. Someone will link you to it I'm sure and if not I will when i get home
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No link is necessary, I've seen the thread. It appears that when you are on 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 essentially you are downgrading to 2.2 and then rooting, correct? I had wanted to use this Gui method for rooting. After I've gone down to 2.2 I should be able to use it, right? At that point it doesn't matter where you started since you are now effectively back to the Froyo bootloader and loading a custom Android version?

ks-man said:
I checked this morning and she is on 2.3.4. I'm not sure when it got updated. Do I still have the same options available as if she was just on 2.3.3? I like the idea of trying Mik Shifted 2.0. From a quick check I think I would be going with the Shift version that is 1.7.6, correct?
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Yes you still have the option to flash Mik Shifted 2.0 and also 2.3.4 stock rooted once the phone is rooted. Both of these are available for root users.

Couple of questions. I've been reading this thread about rooting from 2.3.4 and it mentions says:
"0) A PRECAUTIONARY THING TO NOTE: YOU WILL BE ON BASEBAND 1.07 AND WIMAX 27167 AFTER ROOTING! YOU SHOULD FLASH 1.08.01.0111 AND WIMAX 27240 AFTER ROOTING. ALSO NOTE THAT BEFORE YOU FLASH THE RADIOS MAKE SURE YOU ARE STILL ON STOCK 2.2 TO AVOID BOOT CORRUPTION AND MORE WORK. AFTER FLASHING THE RADIOS YOU SHOULD REFLASH CLOCKWORK RECOVERY, WIPE CACHE, WIPE DALVIK, FORMAT /SYSTEM, WIPE DATA/FACTORY RESET AND REFLASH YOUR ROM OF CHOICE!"
So I started going over this thread about flashing the radio and wimax. This is all coming at me so fast and is quite intimidating. I want to root and start down this path but it seems that I'm now dealing with downgrading, rooting, flashing ROM, flashing baseband, flashing Wimax and it is all getting a little scary.
I also want to make sure my wife isn't without her phone for a day or two as I'm working through all of this and probably coming here with a bunch of questions. Is it really bad if I follow the root instructions and don't immediately flash the baseband and wimax? I can't even tell which steps go in which order right now. Any advice would be appreciated.

U should just go through the rooting process first! Forget about everything else, I.e. radio, wimax, etc... u can always do that later when ur more comfortable. One thing at a time, everyone here is very helpful so I wouldn't worry too much!
Let Me Put My Shift In U

letmeputdatipin said:
U should just go through the rooting process first! Forget about everything else, I.e. radio, wimax, etc... u can always do that later when ur more comfortable. One thing at a time, everyone here is very helpful so I wouldn't worry too much!
Let Me Put My Shift In U
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Thanks, I definitely think that is the right strategy to first get comfortable.
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Ignore this question, I got it working.
I created a new thread for this other question but thought I might as well post it here.
I can't seem to get the Windows driver installed for the Evo Shift. I uninstalled the USB Mass Storage drivers for the Android phone and the phone shows up in Device Manager with the Yellow triangle, but whenever I try and update its driver and point it to the USB Driver folder from the Android SDK it says that Windows could not find driver software for the device.
Any ideas here? I did try using ADB to check for devices and nothing shows up in the list.
Thanks for the help.

Yeah If I remember correctly there is not rooting method for the new update stock sense with android 2.3.4. you can downgrade to froyo and root from there but there is no rooting for 2.3.4 gingerbread. If you want to get back on sense 2.3.4 you have to downgrade first and then flash a custom 2.3.4 rooted rom like the one I have on rom manager!

ks-man said:
I checked this morning and she is on 2.3.4. I'm not sure when it got updated. Do I still have the same options available as if she was just on 2.3.3? I like the idea of trying Mik Shifted 2.0. From a quick check I think I would be going with the Shift version that is 1.7.6, correct?
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Yes you still have the same options. The thread OP for MikShiftedG v2.0 has been updated. But it is MikShiftedG v2.0 for the Shift.
HTCotta said:
Wiping battery stats will not cause any increase in battery life. There's a great read out there that a google employee posted on their G+ page about this. Essentially the battery stats are just one file that stores the info you see in the battery usage info menu. It gets deleted each time you unplug your phone after a full charge anyway. Also, beware of cheap aftermarket batteries that claim a higher mAh capacity than the stock battery as often times they are lower quality cells and will not perform as well. Don't be fooled by low prices on ebay or otherwise, you get what you pay for with batteries.
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Correct wiping Battery Stats does not increase battery life. But it does give you a more accurate reading. I believe the information your referng to is THIS. You also have to keep in mind that he was was discussing the fact that it does not add battery life. Nothing was mentioned as to whether or not it improves the accuracy of the information displayed. Keep in mind that a lot of things change when you flash a New Rom.

prboy1969 said:
Yes you still have the same options. The thread OP for MikShiftedG v2.0 has been updated. But it is MikShiftedG v2.0 for the Shift.
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Not sure I'm following you. If I go to this thread, it is clearly talking about MikShifted 1.76 and takes me to a download page where I can get 1.76. Is this different than the 2.0 you are discussing? I don't think it is since it mentions somewhere in that thread that 1.76 is for the Shift which is essentially the same as 2.0 for one of the other phones.

Follow the link I've attached below. It should take you right to where you need to be. You do not need the Tweaks update.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?10381-MikShifted-G-v2-0-12-18-2011
TEAM MiK
Mik Roms Since 3/13/11

[Q] Noob Samsung infuse questions

I used Odin to update my Samsung Infuse 4G to gingerbread (Build Number - GINGERBREAD.UCKL2). I want to take it off (which I don't know how to do) and go about rooting it so that I can put cyanogenmod 7 on it.
Can someone tell me 1) how to remove gingerbread and go back to stock (is there any way outside of pressing factory reset on my phone? isn't there a way to do this through odin?) and 2) how to go about rooting and getting cyanogenmod 7?
thanks

Can't you just root it with gingerbread on it? I would just leave it on instead of downgrading and root it that way. Follow the link below, under "Unlocking and Rooting" you should see a written tutorial and a video guide to root. After you're done rooting, go to "Custom Roms", pick a ROM of your choice and follow the directions posted in their thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293751

custom ROM updates
Ok, so here are my super duper nooby questions:
1. If I flash a custom ROM, do I have to keep checking here to see if there is an update, or will it go through or notify me on its own?
2. I have stock rooted UCLB3 now. Can I just wipe and flash R3V via CWM or do I have to return to original stock froyo first?
3. The whole reason I'm changing is b/c youtube all of a sudden won't work and it's pissing me off. I've searched the forums, tried all the suggestions that I can, and nothing is working. And it's not just youtube - it's my Facebook vids too. Unacceptable. Anyway, will flashing a different ROM fix it? I know it could potentially, but what about probably? I don't want to restore my **** if it's gonna restore the original problem I'm trying to fix. Thoughts?
Thanks for all the awesomeness this forum and dev's work provides.

dde333 said:
Ok, so here are my super duper nooby questions:
1. If I flash a custom ROM, do I have to keep checking here to see if there is an update, or will it go through or notify me on its own?
2. I have stock rooted UCLB3 now. Can I just wipe and flash R3V via CWM or do I have to return to original stock froyo first?
3. The whole reason I'm changing is b/c youtube all of a sudden won't work and it's pissing me off. I've searched the forums, tried all the suggestions that I can, and nothing is working. And it's not just youtube - it's my Facebook vids too. Unacceptable. Anyway, will flashing a different ROM fix it? I know it could potentially, but what about probably? I don't want to restore my **** if it's gonna restore the original problem I'm trying to fix. Thoughts?
Thanks for all the awesomeness this forum and dev's work provides.
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I'm not an expert, but I think your problem is pretty clear. You flashed a rooted stock rom B3. If you read the post that you downloaded it from, I think you will see that it contains a non-stock kernel in order to enable the rooting to occur. The OP states that you must flash the stock kernel back in order to regain video. I don't think this is something for noobs, so thus far I have avoided it and used ROMs that are already rooted and fixed with video enabled.
One possibility is that "video" in the posts only refers to taking video with the camera, but I'm guessing there's a high chance what I said was right.
Custom ROMs won't typically notify you that there is a new version available. That's what xda is for.
Always go from stock if you want to have the least chance for problems. I use gtg's ultimate unbrick.

SnowBeer said:
I'm not an expert, but I think your problem is pretty clear. You flashed a rooted stock rom B3. If you read the post that you downloaded it from, I think you will see that it contains a non-stock kernel in order to enable the rooting to occur. The OP states that you must flash the stock kernel back in order to regain video. I don't think this is something for noobs, so thus far I have avoided it and used ROMs that are already rooted and fixed with video enabled.
One possibility is that "video" in the posts only refers to taking video with the camera, but I'm guessing there's a high chance what I said was right.
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My bad. I didn't say that I was rooted to begin with and used the rooted B3 from here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1508619.html And that my video has been working for a week or more, but just stopped working today. Thanks for your reply!

I'm basically only a notch up from complete noob here.
But if you have device-specific questions, it's strongly preferred you pose them in the device-specific subforums (for Infuse: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1158).
dde333 said:
Ok, so here are my super duper nooby questions:
1. If I flash a custom ROM, do I have to keep checking here to see if there is an update, or will it go through or notify me on its own?
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Custom ROMs don't have OTA updates or update notifications. You'll have to keep checking.
2. I have stock rooted UCLB3 now. Can I just wipe and flash R3V via CWM or do I have to return to original stock froyo first?
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If it's as you say, stock UCLB3 rooted and with CWM, you're g2g. No need to flash stock froyo.
(reference: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437548
In the paragraph beginning with "One of the ways that I use regularly is," qkster gives a procedure for flashing custom ROMs starting out with a clean stock UCLB3.)
3. The whole reason I'm changing is b/c youtube all of a sudden won't work and it's pissing me off. I've searched the forums, tried all the suggestions that I can, and nothing is working. And it's not just youtube - it's my Facebook vids too. Unacceptable. Anyway, will flashing a different ROM fix it? I know it could potentially, but what about probably? I don't want to restore my **** if it's gonna restore the original problem I'm trying to fix. Thoughts?
Thanks for all the awesomeness this forum and dev's work provides.
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I wish I could tell you. I can't. But, I would take a completely uneducated guess and say it probably will make those things work.
EDIT: VVV With reference to the below, I was going to point that out, but I thought you were already aware of this
Hopefully that'll fix your issue.

*slaps forehead with hand*
How could I have missed the part in all caps that clearly addresses my issue:
TO GET VIDEO BACK UNZIP ZIMAGE_UCLB3.ZIP AND FLASH WITH SGS KERNEL FLASHER. BE SURE TO DISABLE VOODOO LAGFIX FIRST!
DOWNLOAD STOCK KERNEL HERE:
UCLB3 STOCK KERNEL
I feel like an idiot. I'm gonna try that. Sorry and thank you! I'll let you know if it doesn't work.

Stock recovery.

Hi, all.
Want to prepare for ICS update....
It been a long time since I messed with the phone 9 month or so....LOL
Have S-OFF, CWM, rooted, but still on stock ROM, since I use my HD2.
I remember seeing somewhere a thread with instruction on how to switch back to stock recovery.... one of the requirements of flushing ICS OTA.
Now I searched everywhere and can't find it....
Would you be so kind to point me to it?
Thanks in advance!

Get it from any RUU and flash via fastboot
but you'll need an RUU anyway as you need to 100% stock to use the ota
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I'd do a Nandroid Backup of the stock rom. I think this is the easiest way to restore stock rom if you need.

Tester30 said:
Hi, all.
Want to prepare for ICS update....
It been a long time since I messed with the phone 9 month or so....LOL
Have S-OFF, CWM, rooted, but still on stock ROM, since I use my HD2.
I remember seeing somewhere a thread with instruction on how to switch back to stock recovery.... one of the requirements of flushing ICS OTA.
Now I searched everywhere and can't find it....
Would you be so kind to point me to it?
Thanks in advance!
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Shoot throw me in the same boot! I tried reading mikes guide for updating and I think its probably 100x simpler just doing the OTA and calling it a day. I'm not sure how much I'll personally be going back to this phone as I've crossed over to the SGSII now but seeing how HTC is putting out that limiting "one" phone I suspect this will be my last HTC phone for awhile.
I'm not dissing mikes ARHD rom either but I'm looking for the simplest of simplest instructions (other than OTA) like:
1. D/L (only) this one file/ROM and CWM/4EXT and flash.
2. ???
3. Profit.

Stock GB Rogers to JB questions

I've been sitting on my stock Rogers Infuse 4G since I got it, hoping that they would at the very least release an update to ICS. I've pretty much given up all hope, especially now since the Infuse was listed as one of the "violators" in the recent lawsuit. So, in giving up there, I've started to try and get up to speed with what's available in terms of custom ROMs for the Infuse, etc...
I previously had a Captivate (seems like I pick the wrong phones) and have kept that one stock as well (now my wife's phone) aside from the official 2.3.3 update Samsung came out with for it. I checked in here once in a while to try and keep track of some of the updates as I thought about going for a custom rom, but I never had the balls to try anything (I've only ever flashed one phone in my life, and it was bought 2nd hand for $20 ) since I actually *must have* a working phone due to having a kid (daycare calls are kind of important!). However checking today, it seems like I am totally out of the loop and I just don't have the time to try and wade through thousands of pages on various threads to find out what the current "ways" are and such... but I know what I want to achieve so I'm hoping you folks are nice enough to at the very least give me a "search you noob" and point me to some threads :silly:
Since I'm totally stock, from what I'm gathering I think I need (and really I more of need a complete checklist of things to do rather than a "do it for me" kind of thing) to do is:
1) jot down my modem and apn settings and such (already done)
2) back up everything i need, pop out sd card (know how to do this)
3) wipe/clear to factory default (... and this)
4) back up the current rom - everything in case I want to return back to exactly the way the phone is stock
5) figure out what i need to do to flash CWM or something so I have the necessary recovery mode options?
6) flash to ICS (since from what I gather, I need to do that if I want to go to JB)?
7) follow instructions I found on the unnoficial CM10 JB thread to flash to JB
?) flash a new kernel? (is this done already during a rom flash; are there any new kernels?)
As commented, I can figure out 1-3 since I'm not stupid, but I have no idea what is even needed to do 4, nor do I know exactly all the tiny, necessary, steps to do the rest after that... especially since reading some things it seems like most of this is for AT&T users and since I'm on Rogers with a I997R (I assume the R means Rogers), I don't want to mess up my modem or other things to prevent the phone working for me... and these are the steps I'm hoping people can help me with.
So far, in prep, I've noted my phone info (basically everything in Phone settings) and I can back up all my apps and such that I care about, and I've downloaded the unofficial CM10 JB download and the Google apps apk as well, and on the same thread was a link to a 1-click ICS flash or something... so I got that too. Since I want to end up with JB, I'm not too concerned (or should I be?) with it being AT&T stuff to get to ICS, since it's the JB flash that I'd really want to ensure works for me.
Is anyone willing to help me out? I really wish I didn't have to be the "next loser" to make a thread like this but I just haven't had the time to be able to keep up with all the info going around (voodoo mods and whatever else?!) to be able to make sense of all this myself!
Thank you!

This looks like a good place for you to start
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197248&highlight=how+to+root+rogers

First thing to do of course is read, read, read. Understanding what you are doing and why you are doing it is the most valuable resource you can have.
The gist of it is though: to install the custom updated roms, you need root. For Rogers infuse users that is very easy to do; all you have to do is install a rooted kernel in odin. After you do that you make a nandroid (and/or EFS) backup, and install whatever rom you want. CM9 and CM10 have their own kernel, so don't worry about that.
adfurgerson posted the step-by-step guide above me, although the links in the OP may be down. I have the mirrors here: http://minus.com/moAvVibed/
the 3 files in there are:
Odin_Infused_Gingerbread_Kernel_v1.zip - This is the rooted kernel you are flashing
Odin_Stock_Rogers_UXKG3_Kernel.zip - This is the stock rogers unrooted kernel if you want to unroot and go COMPLETELY stock for whatever reason (I doubt you will ever need to use this tbh)
Odin_UXKG3_rooted_no_bootloaders_v2.zip - The stock Rogers FIRMWARE. If you ever mess up you use this to "start from scratch". You will still be rooted though if you don't use the stock kernel above.
So yeah, just flash the kernel in odin as described in the above thread and you will have root + cwm.
From there you reboot into cwm (turn off, turn on holding vol+ and vol- buttons) and make a nandroid backup of your stock rogers rom (or an EFS backup with the infuse toolkit: click here), flash CM9 as per the instructions in the OP, and finally CM10 as per the instructions in the OP.
Also remember:
1. The infuse is almost impossible to hard brick. The only real way to do so is to improperly flash bootloaders, which a rogers infuse user will never have to do. Only AT&T users coming from Froyo have to do it. So keep that in mind.
2. On the chance that you get soft-bricked (screen won't go past samsung logo for example) you can always go back to flashing the stock rom/rooted kernel again in odin and start all over again.

The only thing that I can add to Threi's excellent reply is to mention the one click to ICS. It is in the first post of Scott's CM10 thread,it should give you the ICS recovery that is needed to flash JB without flashing a full ICS ROM.

I suppose I should have mentioned that I also have rooted my phone already (used SuperOneClick, worked fine). Is there any reason why I would use that "rooted kernel" versus just having root on my phone (ie, having su installed... dunno what else it did, I don't think it did anything to my kernel)?
I guess my biggest unknown is all the backup processes that can be done and how to do them? Is "nandroid" a one stop shop for doing backups of everything? Although there's the complete stock Rogers rom linked above (which I'll nab anyways!), I was thinking I would try to make a complete copy of my own phone (just in case)... I guess next step is to search for "nanroid"
Are there any other backup tools I could use/check out (not apk backup tools... those are easily located in the app store, or performed with adb myself).

j.smith said:
I suppose I should have mentioned that I also have rooted my phone already (used SuperOneClick, worked fine). Is there any reason why I would use that "rooted kernel" versus just having root on my phone (ie, having su installed... dunno what else it did, I don't think it did anything to my kernel)?
I guess my biggest unknown is all the backup processes that can be done and how to do them? Is "nandroid" a one stop shop for doing backups of everything? Although there's the complete stock Rogers rom linked above (which I'll nab anyways!), I was thinking I would try to make a complete copy of my own phone (just in case)... I guess next step is to search for "nanroid"
Are there any other backup tools I could use/check out (not apk backup tools... those are easily located in the app store, or performed with adb myself).
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Flashing a kernel is how you obtain cwm which allows you to flash custom ROMs(cwm is clockwork mod recovery). A nandroid is a backup you create in cwm that is copy of your phone that will return your phone to the exact state it was at the time backup was made.

adfurgerson said:
Flashing a kernel is how you obtain cwm which allows you to flash custom ROMs(cwm is clockwork mod recovery). A nandroid is a backup you create in cwm that is copy of your phone that will return your phone to the exact state it was at the time backup was made.
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Aha, perfect description. I didn't realize I had to get a new kernel to have CWM... and I'm guessing because of signing and such, that a custom kernel (with CWM) is required in order to flash a non-signed rom, which is why you couldn't just do it on stock, right?
Ok, so now armed with that info that clears up a lot, I guess I have just one question left (which I can probably find the answer to with some searching). I have read what that voodoo lagfix is and is this something that is standard now on all kernels (because if it can cause issues, I'd rather just have a kernel without it)? Are there any "rooted" kernels without the lagfix built in so I don't have to remember about disabling the lagfix? ...or is there a way to install CWM on to my current kernel?
*edit* Ok, I realize I might be a bit too picky about the voodoo lagfix thing. I found two good threads on dealing with Rogers specifically, so I'll read over those (and suck it up about voodoo) and see how it goes. Since my vacation got unfortunately cancelled due to a sick kid, I have some time to experiment this weekend... hopefully ending up with JB on my phone!

Glad to see your on you're on the way to JB. After you install a custom kernel be sure to make a nandroid in the backup and restore option of CWM before you flash a ROM. That is like your safety net, if you wiped everything and had a bad download that wouldn't install, you will have a nandroid to restore.

adfurgerson said:
Glad to see your on you're on the way to JB. After you install a custom kernel be sure to make a nandroid in the backup and restore option of CWM before you flash a ROM. That is like your safety net, if you wiped everything and had a bad download that wouldn't install, you will have a nandroid to restore.
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Yep, just flashed the rooted cwm kernel and performed a backup. I read somewhere that you can/should back up your efs in case you lose your imei... so I'm just going to quickly look in to that, then i wipe and do some flashes to jb... shouldn't take long hopefully!

Ok, I seem to be stuck at trying to get the one-click ICS install to work. I've got the EZUpdater package to ensure I have the right drivers, yet everything I try with the one-click seems to tell me that the drivers aren't installed and then launches an installer which also doesn't seem to detect the phone... yet EZUpdater will run fine, etc...
I'm just about to reboot and launch device driver in a mode to list all hidden/previously installed devices and nuke them from history to hopefully purge my system of all traces of any drivers and install EZUpdater one more time to get the drivers installed.
Any reason why my phone wouldn't show up in this one-click (it uses heimdall or whatever) program, but seems to work in most everything else (adb even runs fine)?
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Got it all working! I couldn't get the one-click ICS to work for the life of me... it just didn't see the drivers even though they were there and working. I guessed maybe it had to do with me running Windows 7 x64 and having x64 drivers, but the one-click maybe being 32bit. I even tried installing the x64 Java JRE but didn't seem to make any difference.
I ended up having to flash CM9 which worked fine, then going to CM10. Had no issues doing that... wish I had just tried that before since that one-click wasted hours of my day and got me somewhat frustrated!

Need a little guidance

Hey everyone. I was wondering if some here with a HTC One can point me in the right direction. I am looking to finally take the plunge and permanently root, flash a custom recovery, backup my stock, and install a new custom rom on my Verizon M8.
This is my first HTC device playing with, I have always had Motorola stuff and am pretty familiar with the process on those, but this HTC stuff is still a little blurry. S-on/off, CID, MID, RUUs????
I have been reading these forums for quite a bit and still a little unsure about what the steps would have to be. I am currently on the latest stock VZW temp rooted with the new weeksauce basically just to have tethering via a 3rd party app (Wifi tether router). I actually really, really like the stock Sense 6.0 UI and this phone is pretty much perfect all around.
What I want to do is, permanently root, install TWRP as that's what i've used on Moto and my Sammy Tab, backup my stock system so I can go back, and then install a custom ROM. Can TWRP on this do more than one ROM slot and run dual roms? What if everything gets jacked up and I have to go back to complete out of the box stock? How is that done with HTC? I think with Moto it was like an .FXZ file or something like that and you boot the phone into download mode and just flash that file from the computer and you're back to 100% stock. Same with Samsung using ODIN.
I'm also not sure what ROM I want to try, so I am open to suggestions there too. I would like to maybe try a pretty clean Lollipop ROM with good battery life and very stable. Would that be the GPE?
Thanks for reading and for any help.

baune7 said:
Hey everyone. I was wondering if some here with a HTC One can point me in the right direction. I am looking to finally take the plunge and permanently root, flash a custom recovery, backup my stock, and install a new custom rom on my Verizon M8.
This is my first HTC device playing with, I have always had Motorola stuff and am pretty familiar with the process on those, but this HTC stuff is still a little blurry. S-on/off, CID, MID, RUUs????
I have been reading these forums for quite a bit and still a little unsure about what the steps would have to be. I am currently on the latest stock VZW temp rooted with the new weeksauce basically just to have tethering via a 3rd party app (Wifi tether router). I actually really, really like the stock Sense 6.0 UI and this phone is pretty much perfect all around.
What I want to do is, permanently root, install TWRP as that's what i've used on Moto and my Sammy Tab, backup my stock system so I can go back, and then install a custom ROM. Can TWRP on this do more than one ROM slot and run dual roms? What if everything gets jacked up and I have to go back to complete out of the box stock? How is that done with HTC? I think with Moto it was like an .FXZ file or something like that and you boot the phone into download mode and just flash that file from the computer and you're back to 100% stock. Same with Samsung using ODIN.
I'm also not sure what ROM I want to try, so I am open to suggestions there too. I would like to maybe try a pretty clean Lollipop ROM with good battery life and very stable. Would that be the GPE?
Thanks for reading and for any help.
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First you need s-off/unlocked boot loader to perma root..also there is multi ROM support for this device. An if you want to return to pure stock cause something got messed up then you download the ruu an use fast boot via pc to flash your ruu.zip it will wipe your whole phone an return you to out of the box. if your looking for a sense Lollipop from. Santod has a nice ROM an you can also check out the ROM by andybones is also runs very nice an has themes an mod support. If you like GPE then there is one of those also for our device.

Thanks for the info. So in my reading up on doing this, is the "firewater" method of achieving S-off and root no longer working on this phone with 4.4.4? And also, as I understand it, the Sunshine method of achieving the two may or may not work on 4.4.4 either, kind of a 50/50 shot??? So I guess at this time it might just be worth it to wait until either the new sunshine is released or Verizon pushed the 5.0 update out and see what that is like.

baune7 said:
Thanks for the info. So in my reading up on doing this, is the "firewater" method of achieving S-off and root no longer working on this phone with 4.4.4? And also, as I understand it, the Sunshine method of achieving the two may or may not work on 4.4.4 either, kind of a 50/50 shot??? So I guess at this time it might just be worth it to wait until either the new sunshine is released or Verizon pushed the 5.0 update out and see what that is like.
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Firewater is dead....sunshine might work you can download the app for free an run it to see if it will work with your device is free too. Then if you want to run sunshine that's when you pay the 25...so I would advice against taking anymore ota till you r able to s-off.