[Q] Can I get OTA updates after SUPER CID? - HTC Sensation

I am still on the stock ROM, but I am rooted with ClockworkMod recovery. Recently I followed the instructions in this thread to write SUPER CID to my phone.
In order to get OTA updates, I know I'll need to get back to the stock recovery, but do I need to do anything about my CID?

Yes you have to change you CID. SuperCID will not receive OTA updates
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Keupie said:
Yes you have to change you CID. SuperCID will not receive OTA updates
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Thank you! Now for the obligatory n00b follow-up: Where can find what value to change it back to?

Doing some more reading and realizing that I need to flash a stock ROM from here to get back to my old CID.
However, my wife has exactly the same phone as I do without SUPER CID. If I can get her CID using ADB Tools, can I just write that value to my phone?

Or would restoring a nandroid backup from before writing SUPER CID return me to my original CID?

It depends on wich RUU you flashed, in wich region you are. For example: for Europe you can use HTC__001. I used HTC__E11, the dutch cid
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I dont think doing a back up or flashing a rom will change the cid, you have to do this through adb
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Keupie said:
It depends on wich RUU you flashed, in wich region you are. For example: for Europe you can use HTC__001. I used HTC__E11, the dutch cid
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Is there a list of these somewhere, or would you happen to know the CID for TMOUS?

Alright, I found a list of CIDs in this thread.
Also, a few comments in I read that when you write SUPER CID, a backup of your old CID actually gets stored in your phone. You can access it by installing Terminal Emulator (from the market) and running the command: getprop ro.cid
For me, this confirmed that my CID was T-MOB010, which I have now written with ADB and am on my merry way.

RUU or a backup restore will not restore your CID as it's a separate setting. As you've found the thread I was going to suggest then you can find it there
This is why people should get ALL the information from their phone (original CID, RUU, etc) before flashing anything so they have it all to hand should they need it

EddyOS said:
RUU or a backup restore will not restore your CID as it's a separate setting. As you've found the thread I was going to suggest then you can find it there
This is why people should get ALL the information from their phone (original CID, RUU, etc) before flashing anything so they have it all to hand should they need it
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Yes indeed. Live and learn!

Keupie said:
Yes you have to change you CID. SuperCID will not receive OTA updates
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I SuperCID my phone a while back to 11111111 and I just reflashed stock rom back and was able to get OTA updates and was able to installed them too.
So Yes, you can have SuperCID and also get OTA
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SuperCID?

Hey guys
If I'm not wrong SuperCID is the manufacturer code, which prevents me to flash any Custom ROM and staying on Stock ROM, right?
So, if I didn't do SuperCID and still on Stock ROM, can I use RUU to return back to S-ON? If yes, will it install even if the RUU isn't the right one for the device?
Thank you
Super CID means you can flash ANY RUU you decide to try
So if I didn't do the SuperCID, if I choose the wrong RUU, it will not get flashaed or will it continue and I'll end up with a brick?
Edit: I found this: "If they don't have SuperCID, they'll get 'ERROR[131]: CUSTOMER ID ERROR' if they try to flash the wrong RUU and it will stop without flashing anything to the phone." Can anybody confirm that it's right?
Thank you
That is correct. With your normal CID you can only flash RUUs that are for your phone. WIth Super CID you can flash any RUU that takes your fancy
Are there any downsides from using SuperCID?
WTFD4V1D said:
Are there any downsides from using SuperCID?
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I would also like to know this
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Others have reported that with super CID, they were not getting the updates from htc, but some said that they still received official updates from htc even with super CID. There are no real downsides to superCID as far as I know except maybe when you return it for warranty purposes, but you can always put your original CID back. Just take note of your original CID before you super CID.
The alternative to SuperCID is to flash the ENG hboot after you're s-off. The ENG hboot will disregard a CID mismatch.
Guys,
Noob question: do I have to be rooted to get superCIDed?
I didn't create any SuperCID when unlocking bootloader with Revolutionary... If that bad? Can i get that again?
brusko1972 said:
Others have reported that with super CID, they were not getting the updates from htc, but some said that they still received official updates from htc even with super CID. There are no real downsides to superCID as far as I know except maybe when you return it for warranty purposes, but you can always put your original CID back. Just take note of your original CID before you super CID.
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I got a update from HTC, didn't istall it though.
Yes, i have SuperCid
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Super CID means you can flash ANY RUU you decide to try
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Thank you guy, you answered to my question!

Get back to stock sensation (T-Mobile) with s-on?

How would I go about doing this sso I can sell it? I'm currently on a 3.5 rom.
Same problem here (warranty exchange). I've done everything recommended here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 but when I rune the .exe, I get an error [155] (incorrect ruu). I have searched everywhere for an up-to-date RUU, but have not had any luck.
You need to change your cid number to correspond with your carrier if you search the forums there is a list of them I presume you know how to go about this as you would have to have the super cid 11111111 or Eu HTC__001 to flash another Ruu other than your carriers
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Change Cid number? Why would I have to do this? I've never messed with that before.
My apologies I presumed you had installed a unbranded firmware prior to rooting
Normally you have to change the cid to do this as the gold card method won't work
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I followed a thread here to return to S-ON and then flashed the newest RUU from the post that lists all of the RUU's for the Sensation.
alright I've been reading and I'm still a little confused.
Basically, I have an s-off sensation with root and a rom. It's a T-Mobile sensation. I never debranded or anything like that.
What exactly do I need to do to return to stock as if I just bough it? I also noticed there are two TMOUS ruu files....which one do I use?
OK, lets begin
When you S-OFF'd the HBOOT changed to a newer one than your stock, TMOUS ROM. Because of this, you NEED Super CID to be able to go to a lower HBOOT. So that's why you need to change to it.
Once done, you can flash the stock 1.29.531.2 RUU. Once this has completed, you can change the CID back to the TMOUS one and then go back to S-ON and voila - one stock, ready to sell Sensation
Has any one got the Vodafone UK ROM please?
Cancel that. The download hasn't got that long left, so I'll just wait for it to finish.
EddyOS said:
OK, lets begin
When you S-OFF'd the HBOOT changed to a newer one than your stock, TMOUS ROM. Because of this, you NEED Super CID to be able to go to a lower HBOOT. So that's why you need to change to it.
Once done, you can flash the stock 1.29.531.2 RUU. Once this has completed, you can change the CID back to the TMOUS one and then go back to S-ON and voila - one stock, ready to sell Sensation
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Thanks....so how exactly would I do this super CID thing? lol
So basically...do super cid thing, flash stock RUU, then super cid again? Sorry, I've never really done much other than flash roms, so I don't know what this cid stuff is.
You should've really learnt all this before jumping in as you should always know how to get out of something before you go ahead with it.
The guide you followed to S-OFF has the Super CID procedure:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
However, before changing it you need to make a note of your current one. To do so, you need to run the following fastboot command:
fastboot getvar cid
Once done, use the guide above to write the Super CID. This will allow you to flash the 1.29.531.2 RUU.
Then, using the same procedure as writing Super CID, write your old one back. Then follow the guide to get S-ON
Having said all that, you could just try flashing the 1.29.531.2 RUU and if it works then follow the guide to go back to S-ON - it may work
I have tried to change it to 111111... but the exe gives me the error nontheless. What do i change the CID TO?
akbisw said:
I have tried to change it to 111111... but the exe gives me the error nontheless. What do i change the CID TO?
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I'm sure you've already figured it out since the thread hasn't been updated since a couple of months back, but here's the link to the thread with the answer if anyone gets here while searching for the right T-MOUS Stock CID for sensation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23046170
be careful
if u updated firmware to ics be careful before flashing an ruu this messed up my phone
Sorry for bumping an old topic, this topic was helpful with what I needed. I need to return my phone to stock for a replacement. I completed all the steps but what can I double check to make sure I did it correct. I have stock rom and s on. My CID still shows "11111111". I was trying to get the OTA update to ICS but it won't let me download it so it worries me that I still am not completely stock.

[Q] Back to stock for OTA updates with SuperCID ?

First thing's first - I'm definitely not a newb.
My phone (Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA) is depended upon for work and person use. I've been playing with a lot of custom ROMs and each and every one of them has their own little quirks.
Because of this I have seriously considered going back to stock, but I want to be sure that I can receive OTA updates.
I realize that I can get everything back to stock via RUU, HOWEVER, with SuperCID in place, would I still be able to receive OTA updates? I've read that the RUU doesn't replace the SuperCID with the shipped value.
If not, how would I get the SuperCID back to the original value (which unfortunately I don't have - phone was bought used and already rooted) ?
Thanks so much!
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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Sinistra425 said:
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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Yes it will!
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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The RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery
Sinistra425 said:
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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What about the cid??
Sent from my Sensation XE
No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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Sinistra425 said:
No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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I'm thinking if I need to use warranty?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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you could.. but since you can easily rewrite your cid, why worry?
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
anardjai said:
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
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Are you sure for this? From what I know IF you install stock ROM from RUU, it will automatically unroot the phone, get back to S-On and of course replace your bootloader with the original one. However to be honest I don't know what happens if you install stock from clockwork recovery - maybe that way the bootloader will not be replaced and you will still have S-Off and root.
TO JWhipple: The Super CID shouldn't matter for RUU. However you could always change it back to your phone/operator version before installing RUU.
@up: not in Sensation. After installing stock with RUU, S-OFF will remain still. To get S-ON back follow this guide. I'm sure, tested on my own Sensation
What would be the right order to go with:
Do you start with changing the SuperCID back to the original one forst or would you first have to go back to S-ON?
SIMPLY TELL ME ONE THING
that can we have official update after installing the latest ruu with s-on and unroot but with super cid?????
thanks
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installing stock ruu doesnt change the phone to s-on or unroot.......but see the guide to do s-on then u might get the official updates
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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hello how r u ?
seems u got allot exp. in this i try to get back to my stock ruu rom after installing ginger bread arhd and pg53img 3.12 it stops and say error 155 what should i do to get back to stock
dexter93 said:
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
serega12 said:
Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
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No it is not necessary. It will be required only if your device is S-ON and RUU version is older. Just remeber that if your phone is S-OFF and you want to put it S-ON again, do that after you have flashed stock ROM.

I dno what ruu!?

Hey,
I just changed to super cid (111111) in order to run an ruu.
Can i just run any ruu, or do I need to match my cid.
If so how do I know what cid the RUU is for?
Im trying to use:
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.1_Radio_10.43a.9007.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release
_198179_signed.exe
Here u go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
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Wilks3y said:
Hey,
I just changed to super cid (111111) in order to run an ruu.
Can i just run any ruu, or do I need to match my cid.
If so how do I know what cid the RUU is for?
Im trying to use:
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.1_Radio_10.43a.9007.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release
_198179_signed.exe
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as far you have supercid that means also that you are S-OFF
you can use any ruu you want
edit:i answered also in the other thread

[Q] Revert back to stock

I am looking for a Stock T-Mobile Jelly Bean image that won't brick my phone. I tried searching for one, but I couldn't find anything or I found RUUs for outdated versions of HBoot. I am trying to revert back to stock, but I am sorta scared to do so with an outdated RUU. I have HBoot version 2.15 and Radio version 1.13.50.05.31. Thanks in advance.
Would this be the RUU I have to download? http://bugsylawson.com/files/file/1...531-10305008l-release-309489-signed-ics-2exe/
I would just prefer a nandroid backup of the stock image that I can just flash with CWM.
I downloaded the RUU, I just need to know if that is the correct one for my phone before I use it. I really don't want a bricked phone. I checked the MD5sum already and it matches, that is the only thing holding me back.
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I have ran that RUU with the same hboot and radio as you. Why do you think it would brick your phone? you haven't supercid and have locked your bootloader right?
(didn't download from that site though)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2094414
Okay, thank you for the reassurance. I just am pretty paranoid about bricking my phone. I have been looking up how to use RUUs for the last day or so, I just couldn't find anything on how to select the right one. Thanks again.
I just checked out your link and I am downloading now. I do not have SuperCID and I will be looking my boot loader.
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OccupyDemonoid said:
Okay, thank you for the reassurance. I just am pretty paranoid about bricking my phone. I have been looking up how to use RUUs for the last day or so, I just couldn't find anything on how to select the right one. Thanks again.
I just checked out your link and I am downloading now. I do not have SuperCID and I will be looking my boot loader.
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If you are on TMOB US then it's for you. Furthermore, you can match thr CID of your phone to that in the RUU.exe --> Firmware.zip --> android-info.txt.
You'll have to extract firmware.zip from temporary files when you run RUU without connecting phone.
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I ended up using that RUU that was linked earlier in this thread and everything went fine. I just don't have the stock recovery. I guess that isn't that much of a problem though.
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OccupyDemonoid said:
I ended up using that RUU that was linked earlier in this thread and everything went fine. I just don't have the stock recovery. I guess that isn't that much of a problem though.
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The RUU installs the Stock Recovery automatically. You don't have to do anything extra.
You can find stock recovery (if you want to keep it for any purpose) inside the RUU (extraction would require you to run the RUU and then extract the recovery from Temporary Files)
OR
you can find it in the forums.
Hmmm, that's strange. Oh well I guess. When I tried to go into the recovery it just showed a red exclamation mark with a phone under it. I don't really need a recovery right now. Thanks for letting me know where I can find it.
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OccupyDemonoid said:
Hmmm, that's strange. Oh well I guess. When I tried to go into the recovery it just showed a red exclamation mark with a phone under it. I don't really need a recovery right now. Thanks for letting me know where I can find it.
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I believe that is the stock recovery. The red exclamation mark is telling you that you don't have access to it. Perfectly normal.
tivofool said:
I have ran that RUU with the same hboot and radio as you. Why do you think it would brick your phone? you haven't supercid and have locked your bootloader right?
(didn't download from that site though)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2094414
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Can I also run this same RUU as quoted in this thread ?
I have the same radio but different hboot ...
SuperCID = HTC__001 <---- I got this right now, I will have to put in TMO CID before I run RUU, is that true?
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
RADIO-1-13.50.05.31
I would like to go back to Stock becuase after rooting and putting custom ROM (AOKP, I lost 4g, it was working before)
DroidLuvver said:
Can I also run this same RUU as quoted in this thread ?
I have the same radio but different hboot ...
SuperCID = HTC__001 <---- I got this right now, I will have to put in TMO CID before I run RUU, is that true?
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
RADIO-1-13.50.05.31
I would like to go back to Stock becuase after rooting and putting custom ROM (AOKP, I lost 4g, it was working before)
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Yes, I think it will give you an error with that cid. Someone could correct me, but with s-off you can run whatever ruu you want.
tivofool said:
Yes, I think it will give you an error with that cid. Someone could correct me, but with s-off you can run whatever ruu you want.
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I am planning on changing the CID to match what's in the firmware and then running this RUU but... what about my hboot.. it's different than what you guys have. Its 1.13
DroidLuvver said:
I am planning on changing the CID to match what's in the firmware and then running this RUU but... what about my hboot.. it's different than what you guys have. Its 1.13
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It will install the newer hboot to 2.15
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It will install the newer hboot to 2.15
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So I should be able to run the RUU with lower boot like mine and it will upgrade the boot to 2.15 -
Is it true that with 2.15 hboot, modifying the CID is not allowed ?
Any reason why I should stay with 1.13 HBOOT and not go to 2.15 Hboot? Meaning any disadvantages of upgrading to HBOOT 2.15 ?
Well, say you updated your phone via ota & your cid is European or something. And all of the ruus for that CID are lower hboots. If u are s-on and and needed to ruu you wouldn't be able to.
But there is a guide to run a ota.zip for those people, so it isn't hopeless.
So not too many disadvantages.
In fact I just installed the newest Rom and firmware today. So my hboot is 2.16.
And the gossip is that update will be officially put out by HTC in a few weeks.
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Remember this.
if you want to go stock again in future (warranty purpose)
some providers have only provided an ota (only ruu with lower hboots) when upgrading to jb. So downgrading gets hard
It's not that easy to flash an ota as is a ruu.
If your s-off downgrading is no issue.
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