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what is this anyone had a go..
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid/
does it work.
I don't trust it.
I mean, how did they manage to do it? Apple hasn't released the source code for iOS.
thought it was suspect, download is not there. if you can put android on iphone then surely ios on htc android device is possible
"Anything is possible", but what makes it impossible in this case, is that it is not anywhere near possible.
I'm sorry, but did you read what I said above? Apple has not released the source code for iOS. Meaning, how would devs how to port it?
Google has released the source code for Android, so devs know how to port it to the iPhone.
yes i understood, same old apple monopolize scenario ... can the the source not be extracted from a device. forgive me im no dev
Lawl the source code certainly on the device. The source code is never supplied along with a system/program, or else it'd be easy for piracy and what not, unless it is open source like LINUX. If it were, we'd have iOS years ago on winmo, sybian, webOS, you name it.
Besides the fact it's obviously fake, there's nothing in the repository.
Having played with Gingerbread with Sense 3.0 I wouldn´t want to have iOS on my screen for anything in the world
Good luck i hope they get it working, but for the life of me I can't ever think of a reason to want to use IOS besides, the article is way off on how Iphones have good battery life. That really is not the case, at least for anyone I know and me who have had Iphones in the past
I cant imagine as well why someone would want to have ios and android in the same time, its just damn. Oh, and its really impossible without the ios source-code to do it.
Mmmh ... you shouldn't try that. I think is not safe.
The guy hasn't committed any work on the project yet. He's just reserved the name under a license.
It's not unsafe... It's just not done yet.
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The guy hasn't committed any work on the project yet. He's just reserved the name under a license.
It's not unsafe... It's just not done yet.
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I don't remember what part of the forums I saw this but honestly this one member has that on his phone and he was asking on here how he could set the icons for his phone to the iPad version because the size of his phone screen was larger than that of the iPhone 4. The only reason why the dev stopped working on it is because of a seize and desist letter from Apple. How he got the source code is unknown but it is known that Apple went after him with a seize and desist as iOS is not open source. How he got the source code is unknown and if he had finished this project iOS would have been immediately jeopardized and this dev would have faced some serious consequences from Apple. I don't blame him for stopping the project but I would have loved to be one of the beta testers when he had his downloads open. DARN.....
Actually if you google "Hackintosh" you will see that you can run non-open source software on devices that were not designed for the OS.
I'm not saying you can or would want to run iOS on your device just that it is highly feasible that someone, somewhere will do it at some point!
It's also worth pointing out that it would be illegal to do so, and it would not be half as eay to extend through drivers and apps as android which is based on the much more mature codebase of the linux kernel.
Also worth thinking about is that you could program your way to an easier to use, dar i say it more ios-like device by contributing to android and there are more ways than just programming.
Idk if I would want to dual boot iOS on my android. But YOU would want to boot android on A iOS device!
From a developer standpoint, without illegally obtaining source code it'd be easier to build your own OS than to dual-boot iOS
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From a developer standpoint, without illegally obtaining source code it'd be easier to build your own OS than to dual-boot iOS
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Well that's an alternative but what if the main reason why people want this dual boot is to get the best of both worlds? Building an entirely new OS sure is a good idea but when you're the only one developing for it....I don't see that much fun in it. Android and IOS would be pretty rad on an android phone especially on a Samsung Galaxy S2 for T-Mobile......at some point I bet this will be done anonymously which could lead to chaos in the development world. However, with the way Apple ensures those things never happen, it's a longshot....this is quite an achievement from this individual who was able to dualboot both OS's on a different device other than an iPhone. I for one would have loved to be part of that beta team but maybe someday it will come alive again. Who knows.....
Why would you willingly put iOS on your phone? May as well buy an iPhone cause as dysfunctional as iPhones are they are suited for iOS
Now something about this seems really fishy to me. It says that you will be using a jailbroke iPad 2 firmware. Now as far as I know the iPad 2 has not been jailbroken yet, not even with a tethered jailbreak. I know this because I spent like 4 hours this evening reading up on how to jailbreak iOS 5 cause I have a friend that wants me to jailbreak her iPhone 4 with the iOS update.
Facincting and cool ....developers are so brilliant
I read that for a port or custom rom to be made an OS has to be open source to be legal so i saw that the apple made all of his software open source so i think that some developers can try to port or the entire OS or parts of it,sorry if my post is a duplicate or so on ,the last post like this was 2 years ago..so developers you can play with the files and see if is a chance to make something with it
opensource.apple.com
Your mistaken, ios is closed source.
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Your mistaken, ios is closed source.
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he did say that it was closed source and now he provides a link to the open sources...
you are crazy it is impossible
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And if you follow his link you will see the source is not the operating system code. That is closed source so no it is not open.
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It will never be possible, iOS donąt give permission to port iOS on Android.
ok,but what exactly its needed for a port?
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ok,but what exactly its needed for a port?
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You can't port it. There's nothing out there that you could port. That's closed source. Its impossible.
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ok,but what exactly its needed for a port?
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Tell Apple to make iOS open source like android
I didn't get a chance to edit the post lol, i did see that there was no source mentioned in the website.
But who would like iOS in our android device??
i would for bragging to my friends but never actually use it
I gave up any hopes for this a long time ago. As people have said the actual OS source code isn't fully open-sourced and you can also be pretty sure that Apple would hit anybody kinda hard for any sort of port.
Just think of the stunts you could pull if you could buy a 4S and a Nexus or SII or the likes and put iOS on SII or Nexus and Android OS on the 4S....I would do it just to mess with all my Crapple fanboi friends.....
Lol legal chicken again
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It's not just about the source ...
OSX and IOS are based on BSD, which is Free Software, but not strong copyleft, meaning you can fork and close your source. Apple created Darwin, which is based on BSD, then used that as the basis for OSX and IOS. This is just the kernel and some basic utilities, the rest is closed source. The only sources published are for x86 and PPC, not the ARM port.
But Apple is a naughty, naughty company. I've tried to compile their sources more than once. Even when the sources are available, they are IMPOSSIBLE to compile. It's a typical workaround that companies use to steal Free Software. Oh, yes, here is the code: [Big blob of undocumented code with no makefile and no instructions]. You don't have their kitchen, you can't get it working.
But I do predict three things that will eventually happen:
a) As processing power increases in phones, someone will run IOS inside an emulator inside an Android phone
b) Someone will port Android to the iPhone hardware, but iPhone's release cycle and lack of drivers will make it unsuccessful and unstable.
c) Phone hardware will get progressively more generic, and we'll reach a point where we'll have OEM phones that are more or less generic, and we'll get the equivalent of the hackintosh.
Not going to happen. Ha.
iOS is closed source, and yet if you want iOS then just jump ship already. You're with android, so stick with android.
Overall a better OS anyways.
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Not going to happen. Ha.
iOS is closed source, and yet if you want iOS then just jump ship already. You're with android, so stick with android.
Overall a better OS anyways.
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IOS has better games, more apps, hardware accelerated UI, no real fragmentation, a strong ecosystem, better dev tools, etc. People hack their android phones to achieve what iPhones already have.
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IOS has better games, more apps, hardware accelerated UI, no real fragmentation, a strong ecosystem, better dev tools, etc. People hack their android phones to achieve what iPhones already have.
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yeah.but cant tether/reverse tether or kill entire wifi & destroy wlan drivers of any devices connected inside specific APN's...
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IOS has better games, more apps, hardware accelerated UI, no real fragmentation, a strong ecosystem, better dev tools, etc. People hack their android phones to achieve what iPhones already have.
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I don't know how can you "hack" an android phone to have better dev tools, stronger ecosystem or more apps ?!
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ios has better games, more apps, hardware accelerated ui, no real fragmentation, a strong ecosystem, better dev tools, etc. People hack their android phones to achieve what iphones already have.
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please do not feed the troll.
Hope this hasn't been posted before. Has anyone read about this?
I think it's plausible for this to/can happen.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HP-CEO-ZOMG-Android-to-be-closed-after-Motorola-purchase_id26984
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de que habla este foro?
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So much for an English forum! HUH!
There is no way that would happen. Androids shares would drop like a turn you have been holding in for a week. (Yes, thats a comparison)
What? Plausible for HP to say "Oooo you really need to keep WebOS going for us because maybe in some twisted mirror universe Google will make Android closed source and only available on Motorola"
That's all that has happened. HP have said something stupid about Android.
The article even points out WHY Google wouldn't make Android closed source and only available on Motorola.
It may be a good talking point for WebOS, but it's not going to happen. They would have to make Android closed source in order to make it exclusive to Google/Motorola. And since the source is already out there, non Motorola OEMs could continue development on their own or abandon it and go with something else like Windows Phone. It wouldn't be beneficial for Android and I can't see Google doing it.
Where does google make most of its money?
Why would Google develope and release a free and open sourced operating system everyone can use?
Ad Revenue
If Android were to turn closed sourced, Google would loss profit potential. Meg Whitman is an idiot if she thinks Android is going to be closed sourced.
She's just doing her job.
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This would be good for WP7 if true.
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She's just doing her job.
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Well, she's arguably not doing a very good job of it. webOS needs a cheerleader who will make everyone want to use it. Clumsily spreading rumors and FUD about a competitor is not going to garner support for her product, especially such a farfetched rumor.
Here's an idea: find someone (hint: hp can make hardware!) to make a killer device that runs webOS. Make it inexpensive, powerful, give it great battery life and a great design. Then get it into the hands of every developer you can. Send a box of them to Rovio. Give them to Verizon and AT&T (it better be dual-mode like the 4S) employees for free.
Then, make it a point to tell every vendor, carrier, software developer, reviewer, and blogger how great it and webOS is, citing legitimate points and statistics. Send a device to all them. Make something they love and make sure they know it's here to stay. If hp legitimately wants it to be a viable open source OS that other vendors will want to use, they need to shove it down their throats and make it super easy for devs to get it running.
Finally, don't delay it, don't put it on the market for 2 weeks and pull it, don't jack up the price, and don't give it some stupid achille's heel like a PenTile screen or something.
Then webOS will succeed.
When it goes open source, I'm sure Samsung and HTC will make a device. The hardware was the only thing that was really limiting WebOS.
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If HTC ever wants their own OS, here you go.
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Considering hp tried and failed to sell it to htc, I think that ship has sailed.
Google would never do that. They need android to be on as many phones as possible to boost ad revenue. They don't make money from the vendors. Also if they were likely to do that they wouldn't have made their flaship Galaxy Nexus a samsung phone, it would have been motorola.
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Google would never do that. They need android to be on as many phones as possible to boost ad revenue. They don't make money from the vendors. Also if they were likely to do that they wouldn't have made their flaship Galaxy Nexus a samsung phone, it would have been motorola.
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Agreed. Android is an ad/data wet dream for Google.
The data and social engineering aspects for targeting advertisements are massive. They've already invaded your Internets with google and computers with Chrome.
We all hear about all these anonymous usage statistics, but sometimes I'm surprised at how targeted the advertisements feel sometimes.
Probably one of the things that scared me the most was that I recently received a Motorcycle magazine. I've been interested in getting one for a while, but have never actively given my information to anyone before... Just using google, and looking at review of bikes. It's kind of scary that someone got my information, and was able to (at least I feel like) target those advertisements at me.
the google & motorola marriage was approved and completed already by the court
yet Android is still open source
so that old news is just HP trying to get some fly time and pitch WebOS again, but failed yet again
Just throwing this out there for anyone asking how does Google make money on the OS? Well maybe they don't make it directly on the OS its self but they make .30 cents every time a developer sells an app. That adds up pretty quick.
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Unless of course the app is free.
zone23 said:
Just throwing this out there for anyone asking how does Google make money on the OS? Well maybe they don't make it directly on the OS its self but they make .30 cents every time a developer sells an app. That adds up pretty quick.
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Unless of course the app is free.
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Google generates 97% percent of its revenue through ads and they have other income sources as well. Good luck finding app income in that 3%. Probably it is 0.003% of that 3%.
Also paid apps are not that popular in the Android market.
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Google generates 97% percent of its revenue through ads and they have other income sources as well. Good luck finding app income in that 3%. Probably it is 0.003% of that 3%.
Also paid apps are not that popular in the Android market.
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Define "...not that popular..."
Are you saying compared to Apple or what exactly? Whats the basis?
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Define "...not that popular..."
Are you saying compared to Apple or what exactly? Whats the basis?
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He means its a known fact apple users buy more apps than android ones. That's based on various statistics so not just a subjective opinion though the reasons for it are not so clearcut.
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The iPhone is closed and Android is open.
Well!
That's the conventional wisdom about the dueling mobile operating systems. Apple's iPhone operating system runs only on Apple's iPhone (plus the iPad and iPod), and every app must be approved by the company before it appears on the App Store. Android, which Google gives away for free, runs on dozens of phones from many different carriers, and anyone can freely upload new apps to the Android Market without approval.
But that conventional wisdom is showing a few cracks, at least on the Android side. Take the flashy new Bing app for Android, announced today by Microsoft: It's not available to all Android phone users -- only the ones that use Verizon.
Shame
I think you don understand the concept of open source.
Pls brush up your knowledge before commenting.
Plus OS and apps are two different things. Don mix the soup with curry and start talking nonsense
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Brush your brain idiot
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Brush your brain idiot
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brush your own brain.
android is open means it is open source, we know the source of android.
it does not meat, everyone gets every app instantly..
Don waste time explaining to him if he refuses to listen or learn. Mod can close this thread.
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Is it just me or everyone is being super-aggresive here?
What are you talking about? Try to install Bing app and you will see that is not available anymore in Google Play Store or whatever you want to call it...then try to install the apk and you will get the web search is been stopped from an unknwon service or Big brother or whatever you want to call it. Don't try to be smart with me because you were just a little child when I started to work in the mobile industry... I hate people that attack without know anything about it.. Android is a disgrace !!...
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What are you talking about? Try to install Bing app and you will see that is not available anymore in Google Play Store or whatever you want to call it...then try to install the apk and you will get the web search is been stopped from an unknwon service or Big brother or whatever you want to call it. Don't try to be smart with me because you were just a little child when I started to work in the mobile industry... I hate people that attack without know anything about it.. Android is a disgrace !!...
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I don know where you pick up your knowledge about the mobile industry. *facepalm*
This is clearly an app problem and has nothing to do with the OS.
Your thread should be asking about bing app and not about android.
Email to the bing app team instead of whining here
Edit: there must be a reason why it is taken down from the play store. They might be repairing some bug. And the server might be down while they are fixing it.
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What are you talking about? Try to install Bing app and you will see that is not available anymore in Google Play Store or whatever you want to call it...then try to install the apk and you will get the web search is been stopped from an unknwon service or Big brother or whatever you want to call it. Don't try to be smart with me because you were just a little child when I started to work in the mobile industry... I hate people that attack without know anything about it.. Android is a disgrace !!...
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you still don't understand what open means
You don't have to tell me what is open source...even the walls know the basic concept. The thing is that Google has lost the control of android...to me a mobile OS fragmentation is bad....Onestly I don't even remember the exact number of android devices that I had in my hands ...rooted and not, with Sense or Cyanogen or even MIUI and just one iPhone4S with Jailbreak obviously....the true is that the iPhone 4S just works...it just works..how many times to I have to say it...if just was a little bit bigger would be perfect....and one more thing I have Bing also on 3 Uk carrier while with all the android devices I cannot have it anymore....shame one more time Google-android because Bing's unavailability is not the only problem...I could write a book to report all the android's problem.....Yes Ok the Widgets are nice but is not the only thing that count....the eco-system is more important than widgets believe me.
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ofcourse it is open..it is linux and linux is an open source..
@francomur99 , please don't insult people by calling them to brush their own brains . You should mind your language on this forum . And , if this is about the app problem , you should make a thread about Bing and don't make the matter worse by saying is it truly open rather than talking about the app . Because this is unfortunately not what you wanted to ask right? Do not say about others first , say about yourself first . Because , mainly people like this don't tend to know what they're doing in the first place . It is an open source btw . Did that solve your question ?
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You don't have to tell me what is open source...even the walls know the basic concept. The thing is that Google has lost the control of android...to me a mobile OS fragmentation is bad....Onestly I don't even remember the exact number of android devices that I had in my hands ...rooted and not, with Sense or Cyanogen or even MIUI and just one iPhone4S with Jailbreak obviously....the true is that the iPhone 4S just works...it just works..how many times to I have to say it...if just was a little bit bigger would be perfect....and one more thing I have Bing also on 3 Uk carrier while with all the android devices I cannot have it anymore....shame one more time Google-android because Bing's unavailability is not the only problem...I could write a book to report all the android's problem.....Yes Ok the Widgets are nice but is not the only thing that count....the eco-system is more important than widgets believe me.
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bugs has nothing to do with opensource or being openly developed.
its simply means anyone can use or abuse it (like you try to say). thats the deal with open source and environment.
its like a garden open to everybody and no one takes care of it, it dies at the end and no longer will be a garden where everyone is taking care of it together. Google only cares of the OS and drastic meassures someone make a hack to dial dirty numbers or so.
if android was closed like apple, you would see only what google wanted. you would get only that app google approved and yes, you would have only google phones out and it would become a gimmick like iPhone.
and winphone and other bada operating systems would gain more market value.
your specific Verizon issue is with Microsoft and another company, not Android or Google in this case, they just gave the option to restrict distribution, the choice is the developer of the product.
Here is a great article i just read that talks about some of the major problems with android right now.
http://betanews.com/2012/04/28/goog...n=Feed+-+bn+-+Betanews+Full+Content+Feed+-+BN
Honestly I would love to see android be just android. All phones running the same version of android. I understand that no all phones can run 4.0 but every phone that runs 2.x should run the same version of 2.x, and every phone that runs 4.0 should run the same version of 4.0.
One of the biggest takeaways i had from the article above is that with apple, you are buying into a lifestyle. Everything is integrated, and the experience is the same across ALL hardware.
Heres to hoping for the best.
I'll jump into this flame-fest......
No one uses bing. Who cares?
That fragmentation nonsense is just hilarous, and is nothing more than a person trying to laughably say they are better than someone else because they chose to use a different phone.
17 year old emo kids who hang out at the apple store all day keep shouting that. What they fail to realize is that "fragmentation" = choice. If you want that "unfragmented" same old same old android phone, it's simple....buy a nexus device. Vanilla android right out of the gate.
But if you want "fragmentation" err, excuse me, what a normal person would consider *alternative choices* you can pick up any of the dozens or android phones currently sold that have carrier and manufacturer implemented changes. Some are subtle, some are very different.
In short, you are not superior to someone else because you drive a Chevy and they drive a Ford, because you use an Android and they use Winmobile, because you have a PS3 and they have an Xbox360. There is no better, there's only what a person prefers. For them. The worst kind of person in today's society is commonly believed to be a religious zealot, going around preaching to every one else how they are wrong because they go to a different church, or they go to one at all. They believe something, so they have to try and convince the rest of the world that what they believe is superior!
No one cares. Seriously, calm down, pour the kool-aid into the sink, and listen to what you are saying.
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I'll jump into this flame-fest......
No one uses bing. Who cares?
That fragmentation nonsense is just hilarous, and is nothing more than a person trying to laughably say they are better than someone else because they chose to use a different phone.
17 year old emo kids who hang out at the apple store all day keep shouting that. What they fail to realize is that "fragmentation" = choice. If you want that "unfragmented" same old same old android phone, it's simple....buy a nexus device. Vanilla android right out of the gate.
But if you want "fragmentation" err, excuse me, what a normal person would consider *alternative choices* you can pick up any of the dozens or android phones currently sold that have carrier and manufacturer implemented changes. Some are subtle, some are very different.
In short, you are not superior to someone else because you drive a Chevy and they drive a Ford, because you use an Android and they use Winmobile, because you have a PS3 and they have an Xbox360. There is no better, there's only what a person prefers. For them. The worst kind of person in today's society is commonly believed to be a religious zealot, going around preaching to every one else how they are wrong because they go to a different church, or they go to one at all. They believe something, so they have to try and convince the rest of the world that what they believe is superior!
No one cares. Seriously, calm down, pour the kool-aid into the sink, and listen to what you are saying.
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Hold on so your saying that having touchwiz, sense, and blur help Android...
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Dougshell said:
Hold on so your saying that having touchwiz, sense, and blur help Android...
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its linux , get used to it.
Linux got as example Kde , Gnome etc.. never been a problem or fragmented, so having different frontends on mobile is just a company trend, until Google takes on the task to control the mobil interface, and then you're lost like users with iPhone, no chance of changes onless you got apples approval.
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its linux , get used to it.
Linux got as example Kde , Gnome etc.. never been a problem or fragmented, so having different frontends on mobile is just a company trend, until Google takes on the task to control the mobil interface, and then you're lost like users with iPhone, no chance of changes onless you got apples approval.
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Unfortunately your comparison doesn't work. I can install kubuntu and easily remove all traces of kde and replace it with gnome...try that with touchwiz
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If this discussion is going to continue, please keep the flaming/name-calling/fanboism out of it. Debating the merits of different mobile platforms will go on forever, and almost always results in the issues I just mentioned. Let's try to not let that happen here.
Your concept of open source is funny lol
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Although the title of the Portal says 'Android, Windows Phone, and Windows Mobile Development News, Information, and Howtos - XDA Developers' XDA is mainly Android driven. There's hardly any post/video about Windows Phone (apps) on the portal. :crying:
Ever since I moved to the Lumia 920, earlier this year, this place has been very boring for me. It seems nobody is interested in WP at all.
You might as well remove the Windows Phone and Windows Mobile news part from the title
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Although the title of the Portal says 'Android, Windows Phone, and Windows Mobile Development News, Information, and Howtos - XDA Developers' XDA is mainly Android driven. There's hardly any post/video about Windows Phone (apps) on the portal. :crying:
Ever since I moved to the Lumia 920, earlier this year, this place has been very boring for me. It seems nobody is interested in WP at all.
You might as well remove the Windows Phone and Windows Mobile news part from the title
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Get yourself over to MoDaCo - or get a new phone (android in case you weren't sure)
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Blame Microsoft for making their OS useless to Developers; It's not the developers fault you can't flash on a Windows Phone.
ShadowLea said:
Blame Microsoft for making their OS useless to Developers; It's not the developers fault you can't flash on a Windows Phone.
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You can't flash custom ROMs, therefore it's useless? The iOS community would like to have a word with you.
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You can't flash custom ROMs, therefore it's useless? The iOS community would like to have a word with you.
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To a community dedicated to creating and flashing customROMs, yes, it's useless.
iOS is useless in itself; invalid argument.
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To a community dedicated to creating and flashing customROMs, yes, it's useless.
iOS is useless in itself; invalid argument.
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Ouch....lol, but brutally true in the context of open source modding, deving and overally platform growth.
And while WPs seem pretty nifty and even sleek (and back to the OPs lament) what can there be possibly to talk about when you're talking closed source platform? I mean, even to a certain extent Apple has a small 'Jailbroken' type community (albeit not as robust as Android's modding/hacking/flashing).
I suppose it's just a matter of Windows phones getting into enough peoples' hands and even then it'd have to be the super technical ones that would even have to take the interest in trying to 'crack it open', as it were.
Perhaps that is something MS should consider for the future success of WPs--maybe making it open source--as it may give them a foot-hold into the interest of many more people (....of course. we all know that won't happen anytime soon--if at all).
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You're so clever!!!
Thanks for the replies :cyclops:
There's more than flashing, there's also a lot of Android apps posts/reviews. Why are there no WP apps reviews or just WP news in general?
Come back to the light!
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Useless to developers because it's closed - there's a post somewhere by Chainfire about how Samsung have tried (& failed) to stop developers from trying to root the S4 ...I haven't got a link to the post but I did copy some of it for reference here is a quote from the post -
"As some of you must have noticed, latest Samsung GT-I9500 firmwares carry a kernel configuration supposed to prevent SETUID privilege elevation.
Stock unmodified firmware with root is my preferred setup but also a strong dependency for all my development, for me this change is a massive setback if not a dealbreaker."
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ShadowLea said:
Blame Microsoft for making their OS useless to Developers; It's not the developers fault you can't flash on a Windows Phone.
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Not even download an app and install,no filemanager.. windows os sucks...
If u want to have fun with xda u must have an Android
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Well Android obv has a huge market share and win mobile/ win phone extremely little. Since theres less phones out there to talk about obv there will be a relative ammount of posts on here lol. Although i do miss the old days of hacking windows mobile using regedit lol.
In previous generations, it was Windows Mobile. Now it's Android, and for several key reasons:
- Huge hardware selection/affordability (high-end, mid-range, low-end/budget)
- Huge software variety (different OEM skins/apps/AOSP)
- Frequent advancements in hardware (far surpasses the iPhone's hardware capabilities on high end models)
- Customization - I can change the launcher, theme, replace built-in apps, etc
- Open-sourced code; you get the code for the base of the OS/device kernel
etc, etc. It's not because "we hate Windows Phone." Windows Phone is smooth, but that's all it has going for it:
- Retardedly huge Metro font (sorry for using that word, but it's a waste of space). I don't really like the Metro UI overall. The launcher looks nice but that's about it, and I can replicate it on Android if I want.
- Closed source means the community cannot [easily] fix lingering issues
- Microsoft screwed first-gen Windows Phone owners by keeping them stuck on 7.5. Yay, you get a new launcher and that's it. Who's going to make Windows 7.5 apps when new phones are going to run 8? 7.5 isn't compatible with 8 apps.
- Harder to do simple things, such as set up MMS on several Windows Phone devices
- Lagging in some hardware areas; I can understand being efficient and only needing a dual-core Snapdragon S4 for example. But 720p screens only recently became supported.
- Basically, if you don't buy a Nokia WP8 device, you're missing out on most of the good (Nokia-exclusive apps).
- All the phones are the same. That would be great if they all got updated at the same time, but it's not the case. Yes, some phones have different screens, etc. But the software is exactly the same.
(I'm not hating on Windows Phone. I still think it's an incredibly smooth OS with a lot of potential, and choice is always a good thing. Just listing, from the perspective of someone who enjoys Android, why I can't use it on a daily basis.)
I can go on and on, but you get the gist of it. You can have stable and boring if you want, but at XDA we enjoy diversity, choice, customization, and most importantly the ability to do things our own way.
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