[Q] why isn't there a gpu overclock app? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can somebody explain? I see trinity kernel with overclocked gpu and it is also possible when using liveoc...there are so many cpu overclocking apps but not one that overclocks gpu=/

Because the GPU is directly linked to the bus. So to overclock the GPU, you gotta overclock the bus, and that overclocks the CPU at the same time.

polobunny said:
Because the GPU is directly linked to the bus. So to overclock the GPU, you gotta overclock the bus, and that overclocks the CPU at the same time.
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thanks for your reply but i dont know what you mean...i gotta overclock the bus and that overclocks the CPU so? what is the matter with doing that? why isnt there and app that overclocks the bus, which like you said, overclocks gpu and cpu?

migueldbr said:
thanks for your reply but i dont know what you mean...i gotta overclock the bus and that overclocks the CPU so? what is the matter with doing that? why isnt there and app that overclocks the bus, which like you said, overclocks gpu and cpu?
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There's an app called NSTools that lets you overclock the bus. You first need a kernel that supports a feature called LiveOC.

that's...
migueldbr said:
Can somebody explain? I see trinity kernel with overclocked gpu and it is also possible when using liveoc...there are so many cpu overclocking apps but not one that overclocks gpu=/
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Theoretically LOC can oc cpu and bus clock both

migueldbr said:
thanks for your reply but i dont know what you mean...i gotta overclock the bus and that overclocks the CPU so? what is the matter with doing that? why isnt there and app that overclocks the bus, which like you said, overclocks gpu and cpu?
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The only way to overclock the GPU is to overclock the bus, because both are linked.
However, when you overclock the bus, you also end up overclocking the CPU at the same time.
You cannot overclock the GPU alone. Hence why there's no app that directly targets the GPU, because it's not feasable. Unless someone figures out how to unlink the bus and the GPU (fat chance).

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[Q] Kernels

Hey all,
I am new to the Android community. I just rooted my Nexus and flashed the Oxygen rom on it. It comes with the Netarchy kernel 1.3.5.(has awesome battery life) On the forums i noticed a lot of people posting about a trinity uv kernel for oxygen. Can anyone explain the difference between the kernels. Will changing the kernel affect my battery life?. And there is a new netarchy, should i update it to the latest version or just use the one which comes with the rom.. I am really a novice here, So any help would be appreciated. .
Try both out and see which one you like better.
You can undervolt using Netarchy as well. You can either use SetCPU or Proton Voltage Control to undervolt.
zephiK said:
Try both out and see which one you like better.
You can undervolt using Netarchy as well. You can either use SetCPU or Proton Voltage Control to undervolt.
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Will there be a difference in performance?
saranyan said:
Will there be a difference in performance?
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Yes
10char
Do these kernels overclock the sgx540 gpu?
If so by how much?
Abhi_UK said:
Do these kernels overclock the sgx540 gpu?
If so by how much?
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overclocks CPU not GPU
But people saying the trinity kernel also overclocks the gpu which explains high quadrant. Also for galaxy s kernels they say 1500mhz for cpu equals 250mhz for the gpu and they have the same hardware.

Setcpu overclock with intermediate frequencies

I have my xoom overclocked to 1.5ghz with setcpu on interactive governor.
Is there a setting that allows it to use 1.2 or 1.4 before going to 1.5 ghz?
Its just a thought but wouldn't that save battery life instead of stepping from 1ghz right to 1.5ghz?
mingiunate said:
I have my xoom overclocked to 1.5ghz with setcpu on interactive governor.
Is there a setting that allows it to use 1.2 or 1.4 before going to 1.5 ghz?
Its just a thought but wouldn't that save battery life instead of stepping from 1ghz right to 1.5ghz?
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What kernel are you using? tiamat kernel (tachi) goes 1.0, 1.2, 1.408, 1.6, 1.7
using tiamat kernel. Its not the frequencies available I'm asking about. I can set any of the frequencies you mentioned. But mine is set to 1.5 ghz interactive.
But what see happening when I look at the "time in state" report in setcpu are that 1.2 and 1.4 have 0% I would have assumed if I set the CPU to 1.5 Max then it would use the frequencies below it as needed instead of just jumping from 1 ghz to 1.5
rockhumper said:
What kernel are you using? tiamat kernel (tachi) goes 1.0, 1.2, 1.408, 1.6, 1.7
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Plus 1504. That's my oc sweet spot.
On your second point-I guess it uses what it needs. If you're concerned about saving battery power, set profiles.
Out of curiousity if you go to "time in state" report in setcpu do you see 0% for 1.2 and 1.4 ghz?
okantomi said:
Plus 1504. That's my oc sweet spot.
On your second point-I guess it uses what it needs. If you're concerned about saving battery power, set profiles.
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Oh yeah sorry I missed that one...i never checked state but assume if it is interactive and I am working actively that it is going to go to full power. Try conservative profile if you want the opposite.

GPU powerVR overclock

hi every1.
I've been searching but didn't find any info about the topic.
Does someone knows how or just tryed already to overclock the gpu to higher rates? (i would like to get more to play better games).
another question: i'm using the matr1x kernel (17.5) and in the menu i have an option to overclock the gpu but there're options to get it to 1000Mhz? really?
Which are the riscs?
I apreciated any info.
thanks in advance
kalitza said:
hi every1.
I've been searching but didn't find any info about the topic.
Does someone knows how or just tryed already to overclock the gpu to higher rates? (i would like to get more to play better games).
another question: i'm using the matr1x kernel (17.5) and in the menu i have an option to overclock the gpu but there're options to get it to 1000Mhz? really?
Which are the riscs?
I apreciated any info.
thanks in advance
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stock nexus s gpu is at clocked at 200mhz. you CAN NOT overclock it 500% to 1000ghz. thats just silly. thats like overclocking your cpu to 5ghz. the highest ive overclocked my gpu or ran a kernel that already has it overclocked is 250mhz. thats a 25% oc
kalitza said:
hi every1.
I've been searching but didn't find any info about the topic.
Does someone knows how or just tryed already to overclock the gpu to higher rates? (i would like to get more to play better games).
another question: i'm using the matr1x kernel (17.5) and in the menu i have an option to overclock the gpu but there're options to get it to 1000Mhz? really?
Which are the riscs?
I apreciated any info.
thanks in advance
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That's the CPU clock you're looking at. LiveOC can overclock the GPU as a percentage value (ie, 110% is 200 * 110% = 220mhz), but it does the same to the CPU (so 1000mhz turns into 1100mhz). This will generally need adjusting the voltages upward.
So no need for any app to oc, just increase the LiveOc % ?
ya, that question about overclocking the gpu to higher then 300mhz was really silly, but asked t anyway
GPU Clock is stock at 200mhz, CPU is at 1000mhz. Increase LiveOC % and you'll go up by that percentage. Just remember, as i said, you will most likely need to adjust voltages to prevent instability and reboots. It's best just to set all of this up using NSTools.
Ok. I've tryed oc to 110% but instable. just need to set voltages to get the right combo.
Thanks!!
Not all phones can handle such an OC (either because of GPU or CPU, or combination, it all varies). Hopefully you can get a stable setup, the extra GPU OC is a great performance booster.
Harbb said:
the extra GPU OC is a great performance booster.
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And what a performance booster... I never bothered to try the LiveOC... I just OCed the CPU and thought that was the most I can do. But with 110% LiveOC and 1300MHz CPU OC, my phone is now eve faster than before.

GPU OC

Clemsyn's kernels have the GPU OC'ed to 650
Is this "safe"? 50% OC? What is unsafe for GPU OC? I cannot find any documentation on this subject.
Ti2 said:
Clemsyn's kernels have the GPU OC'ed to 650
Is this "safe"? 50% OC? What is unsafe for GPU OC? I cannot find any documentation on this subject.
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Yeah, I think it's completely safe I use Clemsyn's 1.8ghz OC kernel on mine with CleanRom 3.2.2 and I love it. It is a less than 50% because stock is 416mhz so a 50% increase I would consider unsafe. The 650mhz is the highest I would go because I think any higher would be breaking that "safe barrier".
lightitwithfire said:
Yeah, I think it's completely safe I use Clemsyn's 1.8ghz OC kernel on mine with CleanRom 3.2.2 and I love it. It is a less than 50% because stock is 416mhz so a 50% increase I would consider unsafe. The 650mhz is the highest I would go because I think any higher would be breaking that "safe barrier".
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Cheers. Although 150% of 416 = 624
Is that your opinion by the way? Or can you back that up - or point me to some documentation on the matter?
Thanks
Ti2 said:
Cheers. Although 150% of 416 = 624
Is that your opinion by the way? Or can you back that up - or point me to some documentation on the matter?
Thanks
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Lol sorry, not the brightest when it comes to math!
Also, yes it is my opinion. I'm 80% sure that you will NOT find any documentation concering whats safe and what isnt. It's all up to the users discression.

Antutu and CPU guvernors.

Wanted to show difference between different CPU governors in Trckster Mode and how they affect performance. Note that phone is only slightly overclocked so this IS NOT competition.
First image is with CPU governor ON DEMAND
http://postimg.org/image/ntw6iyts7/
Second screenshot is same overclock ONLY change is that CPU governor is changed to INTERACTIVE
http://postimg.org/image/huxvhbjhv/
As you can see difference is rather big 1100 point in Antutu just by changing governor. Phone is on stock ROM with Phantom Kernel 4.5 overclocked to 1242 MHz. .
Redzo said:
Wanted to show difference between different CPU governors in Trckster Mode and how they affect performance. Note that phone is only slightly overclocked so this IS NOT competition.
First image is with CPU governor ON DEMAND
http://postimg.org/image/ntw6iyts7/
Second screenshot is same overclock ONLY change is that CPU governor is changed to INTERACTIVE
http://postimg.org/image/huxvhbjhv/
As you can see difference is rather big 1100 point in Antutu just by changing governor. Phone is on stock ROM with Phantom Kernel 4.5 overclocked to 1242 MHz. .
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can i use INTERACTIVE CPU governor for daily use??
zacutesz said:
can i use INTERACTIVE CPU governor for daily use??
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Of course.
zacutesz said:
can i use INTERACTIVE CPU governor for daily use??
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Yes you can:good:
Hey dude .. my current govenor is ondemand and im under clock mine to 702ghz and undervolt to 750000mhz .. my question is can i use this INTERACTIVE governor with same current setting? thanks ..

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