[Q] Kernels - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey all,
I am new to the Android community. I just rooted my Nexus and flashed the Oxygen rom on it. It comes with the Netarchy kernel 1.3.5.(has awesome battery life) On the forums i noticed a lot of people posting about a trinity uv kernel for oxygen. Can anyone explain the difference between the kernels. Will changing the kernel affect my battery life?. And there is a new netarchy, should i update it to the latest version or just use the one which comes with the rom.. I am really a novice here, So any help would be appreciated. .

Try both out and see which one you like better.
You can undervolt using Netarchy as well. You can either use SetCPU or Proton Voltage Control to undervolt.

zephiK said:
Try both out and see which one you like better.
You can undervolt using Netarchy as well. You can either use SetCPU or Proton Voltage Control to undervolt.
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Will there be a difference in performance?

saranyan said:
Will there be a difference in performance?
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Yes
10char

Do these kernels overclock the sgx540 gpu?
If so by how much?

Abhi_UK said:
Do these kernels overclock the sgx540 gpu?
If so by how much?
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overclocks CPU not GPU

But people saying the trinity kernel also overclocks the gpu which explains high quadrant. Also for galaxy s kernels they say 1500mhz for cpu equals 250mhz for the gpu and they have the same hardware.

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[Q] Overclocking

Does anyone know of some good apps (preferably free) that I can use to overclock a rooted droid charge, with the latest altered beast ROM and kernel?
There aren't any overclock kernels at this point. Its being worked on. Just be patient.
Fe_Man said:
Does anyone know of some good apps (preferably free) that I can use to overclock a rooted droid charge, with the latest altered beast ROM and kernel?
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You can try tegrak from the market if you really want oc.
In all honesty, just wait for a kernel to come out that will actually oc. I'd love a kernel that uses voltage control and will wait for that...
Ahh, thanks. This is my first android device so I have no idea what to expect and when
If I can ever get my config straightened out, I was going to look into doing an OC kernel that uses Voltage Control, similar to nemesis2all's kernels for the Fascinate. Still trying to get a working config though.
My opinion though is that OCing the hummingbird processor is useless, and does little for performance on a day-to-day basis and only serves to give you big numbers in benchmarks while reducing battery life.
I mostly used the 1120 step skipping 1000 and scoring serious uv was awesome

Non Overclocked kernel

I want to make sure I'm not trippin', I've searched all thru the dev forum, and I don't see a non overclocked kernel. everyone complains about battery life but they are using a kernel that wasn't geared for battery life. oc kernels are for performance and bragging rights. we need a stock kernel with uv and ram optimization along with battery optimization mods
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boimarc89 said:
I want to make sure I'm not trippin', I've searched all thru the dev forum, and I don't see a non overclocked kernel. everyone complains about battery life but they are using a kernel that wasn't geared for battery life. oc kernels are for performance and bragging rights. we need a stock kernel with uv and ram optimization along with battery optimization mods
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Why not just not overclock? Also, the kernel that comes in Inspired Ace isn't overclockable.
There are many battery saving options! If you have the Leedroid kernel, in setcpu you have the option of running your proccesor at Powersave, performance,smartass and so on...this is also in a few other kernels but I am not sure which ones at the moment.
And if you are really hyped up on saving battery, shutoff haptic feedback, turn of data when you are not using it, lower screen brightness, Use a task killer to kill stray apps(if you were playing angry birds kill it afterwards).
These are a few things you can do that will increase your battery life significantly...
With an overclock capable kernel, you can underclock. I run mine at 921 MHz and don't notice any performance hit. I've tweaked the undervolt to as low as I can get away with. I get pretty awesome battery life that way.
Before you ask, I'm using a kernel I compiled myself from HTC's latest linux source for the Inspire. It's essentially stock with only the addition of the frequency table and hooks for OC/UV.
Gene Poole said:
With an overclock capable kernel, you can underclock. I run mine at 921 MHz and don't notice any performance hit. I've tweaked the undervolt to as low as I can get away with. I get pretty awesome battery life that way.
Before you ask, I'm using a kernel I compiled myself from HTC's latest linux source for the Inspire. It's essentially stock with only the addition of the frequency table and hooks for OC/UV.
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This.
Simply underclocking will solve your problems. I prefer to run @1.4 Ghz. I have everything optimized for speed & efficiency and still don't lose in battery performance.
Running CM7 with LordMod UE 2.6 kernel and smartass CPU governor, I can set the max speed to 768mhz with very little performance hit noticed. I might just keep it that way, haven't decided yet. Scrolling is still smooth, Angry Birds is still smooth. The cool thing about running max 768mhz with the pinky undervolt script is the CPU voltage never goes above 900mv.
I'm running CM7 with nightly 91 and on my Vibrant, they made a kernel that was stock uv no oc and u could use it all day, literally....
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[Q] [Discussion] Kernels/UV Values

So,
We've all got our Xooms, what are you experiences with each kernel, which one do you find the best? (and with what governors?)
Secondly, What are your UV values? Whats the best you've got when trying to undervolt?
Ive just got my Xoom (32gb, wifi, uk) and im just on the brink of experimenting with the undervolting, i searched but couldn't find a relevent topic.
So please, do post values, kernels and your experiences
ah okay, I thought this would be quite an important issue,
I've managed to get the xoom to handle 1.6 undervolting each state by 100mv
I am however having trouble getting both cores to stabilse at 1.6. Using os monitor I can see that only one core sticks, the other goes down to 300 mhz,.
tremblingwater said:
So,
We've all got our Xooms, what are you experiences with each kernel, which one do you find the best? (and with what governors?)
Secondly, What are your UV values? Whats the best you've got when trying to undervolt?
Ive just got my Xoom (32gb, wifi, uk) and im just on the brink of experimenting with the undervolting, i searched but couldn't find a relevent topic.
So please, do post values, kernels and your experiences
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I haven't fooled around with over/undervolting, but I like the oc gpu version of the Tachi kernel.
Zero problems and very smooth. I am very stable at 1504MGh
okantomi said:
I haven't fooled around with over/undervolting, but I like the oc gpu version of the Tachi kernel.
Zero problems and very smooth. I am very stable at 1504MGh
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what you using for OC?
Setcpu or pimp my cpu or anything else.
Which governor you use?
I had lots of rebooting with setcpu especially after applying voltages.
rohit3192 said:
what you using for OC?
Setcpu or pimp my cpu or anything else.
Which governor you use?
I had lots of rebooting with setcpu especially after applying voltages.
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I use CPU Master for oc and setting profiles. I do have the oc set on boot, because 1504 is my sweetspot and is stable.
Just installed Moray+tachi
Mobo player freezed few times,rest ok.
Edit: Trying "No frills" discarded Set Cpu for now.
rohit3192 said:
Just installed Moray+tachi
Mobo player freezed few times,rest ok.
Edit: Trying "No frills" discarded Set Cpu for now.
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No Frills is good, but I don't know if you can set profiles, which are good to save battery, control overheating, etc...

GPU powerVR overclock

hi every1.
I've been searching but didn't find any info about the topic.
Does someone knows how or just tryed already to overclock the gpu to higher rates? (i would like to get more to play better games).
another question: i'm using the matr1x kernel (17.5) and in the menu i have an option to overclock the gpu but there're options to get it to 1000Mhz? really?
Which are the riscs?
I apreciated any info.
thanks in advance
kalitza said:
hi every1.
I've been searching but didn't find any info about the topic.
Does someone knows how or just tryed already to overclock the gpu to higher rates? (i would like to get more to play better games).
another question: i'm using the matr1x kernel (17.5) and in the menu i have an option to overclock the gpu but there're options to get it to 1000Mhz? really?
Which are the riscs?
I apreciated any info.
thanks in advance
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stock nexus s gpu is at clocked at 200mhz. you CAN NOT overclock it 500% to 1000ghz. thats just silly. thats like overclocking your cpu to 5ghz. the highest ive overclocked my gpu or ran a kernel that already has it overclocked is 250mhz. thats a 25% oc
kalitza said:
hi every1.
I've been searching but didn't find any info about the topic.
Does someone knows how or just tryed already to overclock the gpu to higher rates? (i would like to get more to play better games).
another question: i'm using the matr1x kernel (17.5) and in the menu i have an option to overclock the gpu but there're options to get it to 1000Mhz? really?
Which are the riscs?
I apreciated any info.
thanks in advance
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That's the CPU clock you're looking at. LiveOC can overclock the GPU as a percentage value (ie, 110% is 200 * 110% = 220mhz), but it does the same to the CPU (so 1000mhz turns into 1100mhz). This will generally need adjusting the voltages upward.
So no need for any app to oc, just increase the LiveOc % ?
ya, that question about overclocking the gpu to higher then 300mhz was really silly, but asked t anyway
GPU Clock is stock at 200mhz, CPU is at 1000mhz. Increase LiveOC % and you'll go up by that percentage. Just remember, as i said, you will most likely need to adjust voltages to prevent instability and reboots. It's best just to set all of this up using NSTools.
Ok. I've tryed oc to 110% but instable. just need to set voltages to get the right combo.
Thanks!!
Not all phones can handle such an OC (either because of GPU or CPU, or combination, it all varies). Hopefully you can get a stable setup, the extra GPU OC is a great performance booster.
Harbb said:
the extra GPU OC is a great performance booster.
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And what a performance booster... I never bothered to try the LiveOC... I just OCed the CPU and thought that was the most I can do. But with 110% LiveOC and 1300MHz CPU OC, my phone is now eve faster than before.

[Q] overclock 1.5ghz...yes or not?

hi, I'm running android revolution, the rom works fine...during the flash 4ext ask me what kernel I want, if stock or 1.5ghz...
what do you think about? battery? cpu damage?
all softwares run very well, I don't think is necessary to set cpu at 1.5....but have more power is better XD
suggestions? can I use any software to set the cpu clock?
I'm using vi4.0 at 1.512ghz. I'm actually impressed with the 13-15 hours of text/call/video/music mid to high usage.
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but is better? more...reactive, speed?
I think 1.2Ghz is sufficient for a Sensation !
All games don't lag on 1.2Ghz..
I am also using ARHD 6.3 and overclocked to 1.83ghz. I did not notice a difference in battery life. But my phone is noticeably very fast! I am using "setcpu" apk.
throcker said:
hi, I'm running android revolution, the rom works fine...during the flash 4ext ask me what kernel I want, if stock or 1.5ghz...
what do you think about? battery? cpu damage?
all softwares run very well, I don't think is necessary to set cpu at 1.5....but have more power is better XD
suggestions? can I use any software to set the cpu clock?
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You will notice a difference in speed and responsiveness! You can always try and if you don't think that it is worth the slightly reduced battery life you can always revert to stock! ( i'm running IC 5.11 on 1.5 GHz and i get 1.5 day with moderate to heavy usage ). Don't worry it is safe as the CPU of the sensation is meant to run at 1.5 GHz ( like the sensation XE )!
ok, I did it, works fine, very very responsive....that's good!....
but!....I want smartassv2!....smartass at least!...
here there are only default governors!
are there kernels compatible with android revolution?
and is not clear, setcpu works with dual core CPUs?
throcker said:
ok, I did it, works fine, very very responsive....that's good!....
but!....I want smartassv2!....smartass at least!...
here there are only default governors!
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The source code for the 3.0 kernel isn't released yet, so all that can be done are hex edits. Because of this, only the default governors are availible.
are there kernels compatible with android revolution?
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The overclocked kernels are compatible with every ICS ROM.
and is not clear, setcpu works with dual core CPUs?
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SetCPU is compatible with dual core CPUs, however it turns core 2 permanently on. You can use System Tuner if you don't want this.
thanks a lot, any link or suggest for a good kernel?
throcker said:
thanks a lot, any link or suggest for a good kernel?
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SebasianFM is the only one who edits kernels for ICS so far.
I am currently on Sebastian's kernel clocked at 1612MHz and everything is just fine.. feel free to flash
I use his 1.78GHz kernel and its very fast, stable, and also has decent battery life.
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