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ENG S-OFF and Ship S-OFF?

Hi,
I want to flash a new radio to my Sensation as I currently have a really bad battery life and thought it could maybe be the result of an non-matched radio. (Updated to Android Revolution HD 3.0.0 yesterday)
My bootloader tells me I'm Ship S-OFF, but I've read that I'd need ENG S-OFF to flash a new radio, but could not find any guide telling me how to "do that".
Do I need ENG S-OFF? If so, how can I get it?
Thanks for your help.

Find Bin4ry's thread in dev section (it's a little hard to find, old thread but still) and inside that thread you can download PG58IMG.zip file. Then just flash that file and that's it
Edit: Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
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Btw, I'm not sure if you need ENG S-OFF to flash a radio
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else know if I really need ENG S-OFF to flash a new Radio? I don't want to do it if I don't need it..

idavid_ said:
Find Bin4ry's thread in dev section (it's a little hard to find, old thread but still) and inside that thread you can download PG58IMG.zip file. Then just flash that file and that's it
Edit: Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
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I've already installed one PG58IMG.zip file a few weeks ago, which was a bit "bigger". Am I supposed to just install the "new" one "over" the old one? Or will there be problems?

crunkin said:
Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else know if I really need ENG S-OFF to flash a new Radio? I don't want to do it if I don't need it..
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You do not need ENG S-OFF to flash a new radio.
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What is ENG S-Off used for anyway? Installing a new ROM overwrites the radio though?

claudenegm said:
What is ENG S-Off used for anyway? Installing a new ROM overwrites the radio though?
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Installing a new ROM does not override the radio, installing a new radio does. If you don't know what ENG hboot does, don't flash it. You don't need it, and if you don't know what youre doing you can brick your phone.
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raybez said:
Installing a new ROM does not override the radio, installing a new radio does. If you don't know what ENG hboot does, don't flash it. You don't need it, and if you don't know what youre doing you can brick your phone.
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I do know what I'm doing (I think xD). I just mixed up all the information I got, so I wanted things to be cleared up a bit.
What I just want to know is, what is the difference between Ship S-Off and Eng S-Off? What is responsible for giving acces to Nand making me able to install a custom ROM? Ship S-Off, right?
I'm really confused right now xD

claudenegm said:
I do know what I'm doing (I think xD). I just mixed up all the information I got, so I wanted things to be cleared up a bit.
What I just want to know is, what is the difference between Ship S-Off and Eng S-Off? What is responsible for giving acces to Nand making me able to install a custom ROM? Ship S-Off, right?
I'm really confused right now xD
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Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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raybez said:
Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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Thanks alot, it helped
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raybez said:
Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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Thanks i now finally know the difference between eng s off and ship s off
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how to (ENG S-OFF) the SENSATION
hi,,, thanks for all the information it was usefull,,,
-but do anyone knows how to Eng S-OFF the sensation????
i have done to much searching for but there was none....
-also i concluded that in order to flash a radio on my sensation I must be
ENG S-OFF not only Ship S-OFF (ex: the revelution HD Radio) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 )
when i tried to follow the procedure to flash the rom I get (not allowed message; which means that i dont have ENG S-OFF)
htc sensation rooted
ship S-OFF
Android revelution HD 3.0.0

yazan86 said:
hi,,, thanks for all the information it was usefull,,,
-but do anyone knows how to Eng S-OFF the sensation????
i have done to much searching for but there was none....
-also i concluded that in order to flash a radio on my sensation I must be
ENG S-OFF not only Ship S-OFF (ex: the revelution HD Radio) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 )
when i tried to follow the procedure to flash the rom I get (not allowed message; which means that i dont have ENG S-OFF)
htc sensation rooted
ship S-OFF
Android revelution HD 3.0.0
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Look at my first post in this thread (1 page back)
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I'm using HTC incredible S 710e, my phone is Eng S-OFF, how to change Ship S-OFF...

PhuongHoang said:
I'm using HTC incredible S 710e, my phone is Eng S-OFF, how to change Ship S-OFF...
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First of all, wrong forum. Second, why would you want that? I guess you can get S-ON again and then run revolutionary again
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HTC Sensation

Hello, i got one Sensation today, and now i want to know what ROM install on it.
The Sensation XE ROM works on normal Sensation?
What is the best ROM to update?
Best Regards

Is say start off with miui, then if you don't like it try something else...

Already in use, i buy from another person who have it installed.
But i don´t like very mutch, its too much iphonized...
One question please:
If This Sensation already have one miui ROM, that means that the phone is already and prepare to install new ROM´s or i need to unlocked and S-off..?
Regards

Yes, you have to have s off and be fully rooted. I'd go with cyanogenmod next...

All depends on what you want to do with the phone. I personally have been impressed with the ARHD Roms. As the others have said, make sure the phone is S-off and Cid 1111111, if you dont know how to check for these, there are several good guides that will help you through the process. I highly recommend doing a nandroid backup before you plan on testing out other roms, in case something goes bad.

I have this:
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT- 1.17.1111
RADIO- 10.14.9035.01_M
eMMC-boot
I installed the pyramid 3d XE, but don´t work correctly, did the Sensation XE ROMS work in normal Sensation?
Did i need to update something like RADIO, etc..?
I see that some ROMS have "Wipe necessary", but what it means, i have one program "SuperWipe.zip".. its for install Before?
Regards

Start out by updating your radio to 10.58.9035.00U

I correctly install and it work good the pyramid3d XE ROM, but in the lower left corner, appears "SAFE MODE" every time...
anyone help?

Try another rom then, Android Revolution has both Sense 3.0 and 3.5 roms as well as the ICS leak.
Use superwipe before installing any rom to completely wipe the phone, and then install the rom as usual by selecting .zip and then reboot.
When it boots up, give it 5 minutes before touching anything, sign into google, facebook, etc. And then if you'd like flash a custom kernel.

Ok Thank you very much,
I will do that.
The "Safe Mode" means that this ROM is not Full suported or its the Sense version its not suported by my device?
I like very much this XE appeareance..
Regards

Best one is Energy sense 3.5 very good battery life plus stunning tweaks. Your phone is already rooted so u can flash any custom Rom. Make sure to install recovery and do nandroid backup.
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insert-coin 3.4.6 is gratest rom in sensation
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Help
Some help...
i trie to update the ROM by using the PG58IMG.zip file, and now it wont start...
The Bootloader is now:
*** LOCKED ***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT- 1.20.0000
RADIO- 11.15.3504.16_M
eMMC- boot
Dec 15 2011.21:14:10
Any ideas!?
Regards

if ur CID is not currect it will not update completely
and if u put the zip file in the root every time bootloader wants to update
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Some roms need supercid. If ur just rooted and soff u can use any rom in rom manager without supercid.
jasminthoria said:
Best one is Energy sense 3.5 very good battery life plus stunning tweaks. Your phone is already rooted so u can flash any custom Rom. Make sure to install recovery and do nandroid backup.
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sent from an HTC sensation on CM7 alpha #10

[Q] can my sensation be rooted?

I have bought the phone in India and it is not locked to any carrier. I can use any sim card in it. Following is the information in bootloader in my HTC Sensation.
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.18.0000
eMMC boot
Aug 2 2011, 22:35:52
HBOOT
I want to attempt rooting on my phone but I dont know whether its bootloader is unlocked. Because I remember reading something about HTC releasing a tool for it. The phone is on Android 2.3.4.
So can it be rooted? Do I need to unlock it first? Can I use the method/tool in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
Please advise. TIA!

sarkar_007 said:
I have bought the phone in India and it is not locked to any carrier. I can use any sim card in it. Following is the information in bootloader in my HTC Sensation.
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.18.0000
eMMC boot
Aug 2 2011, 22:35:52
HBOOT
I want to attempt rooting on my phone but I dont know whether its bootloader is unlocked. Because I remember reading something about HTC releasing a tool for it. The phone is on Android 2.3.4.
So can it be rooted? Do I need to unlock it first? Can I use the method/tool in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
Please advise. TIA!
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You can root without unlocking it but you will need to S-OFF
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can i use the tool in the link i posted to do s-off?

I've done this that way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
MIke

I have read the 1st post of the above thread. As I understand it, I have to do it in the following steps:
1. S-Off using revoltionary
2. Install CWM Recovery 5.0.0.8
3. Permanent root using su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip
4. Install Custom ROM
Is the above procedure right? Or have I messed any step?
I believe the Super CID step is for branded phones which are locked to a particular carrier. Since my phone is unbranded and not locked to any carrier, I dont have to do it, right?
Please advice if I am missing something.

sarkar_007 said:
I have read the 1st post of the above thread. As I understand it, I have to do it in the following steps:
1. S-Off using revoltionary
2. Install CWM Recovery 5.0.0.8
3. Permanent root using su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip
4. Install Custom ROM
Is the above procedure right? Or have I messed any step?
I believe the Super CID step is for branded phones which are locked to a particular carrier. Since my phone is unbranded and not locked to any carrier, I dont have to do it, right?
Please advice if I am missing something.
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To install new ROM's like the ICS 4.0.3 ones you need supercid because you have to flash a new firmware
The order in which you wrote is correct
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So I need Super CID for ICS ROM's only and not for Sense 3.5 ROM's, correct?

sarkar_007 said:
So I need Super CID for ICS ROM's only and not for Sense 3.5 ROM's, correct?
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Technically incorrect as the ICS ROMs are sense 3.5 at the moment but I know what you mean. No need to SuperCID for Gingerbread based ROMs
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Yes. I meant gingerbread roms. So are the steps that I mentioned correct? And in the right order?
Btw, why does my phone has 'locked' written in the bootloader menu? Is it the locked bootloader from htc and do I have to first unlock it before attempting S-off?
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sarkar_007 said:
Yes. I meant gingerbread roms. So are the steps that I mentioned correct? And in the right order?
Btw, why does my phone has 'locked' written in the bootloader menu? Is it the locked bootloader from htc and do I have to first unlock it before attempting S-off?
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You should be able to S-OFF without unlocking it and it only says locked because the revolutionary tool and HTCdev tool work in slightly different ways. The steps are correct and in the right order
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Thanks, Jonny. You have been of great help.

Another thing. If I root my Sensation now and install a custom rom, will I still get the ICS update available notification whenever HTC releases it? And will I be able to apply that ICS update to my rooted phone?
I know there already are ICS rom's available but I would still want to check out what HTC offers in their official ICS update. Maybe a newer version of Sense?

Need HTC Sensation 4G Canada Bell RUU (noob)

I need a rom to get me back to s-off or just how to unroot. if u have any links could you post them plz.

nikomo55 said:
I need a rom to get me back to s-off or just how to unroot. if u have any links could you post them plz.
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Check the ruu in the development forum and search the one you are looking for
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Here's the latest one available (1.45.666.5):
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c0a...00U_10.14.9035.01_M_release_220007_signed.exe

Trekest said:
Here's the latest one available (1.45.666.5):
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c0a...00U_10.14.9035.01_M_release_220007_signed.exe
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i am looking for 1.73 by bell. anyone can help me finding that one?

1.73 is for the Sensation XE, as far as I know the latest version of Bell's Sensation is 1.45.666, Europe is 1.50.401 (last three numbers are the region).
Have a look at this thread, it contains every leaked Sensation RUU found so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559

Thanks a lot guys!

Ruu to 1.45 and then let phone update in about phone to 1.50
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Say if I flashed a custom "stock rom" with boot image and everything as such in the link below.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21922297&postcount=1)
Now when I relock my bootloader, I get the security warning - does this mean I have to flash a RUU so i can relock it without the security warning?
I've spent at least 6 straight hours trying to get S-Off to no avail.

URGENT helpPLS.How toreturn phone to completely factory shape(without boot.cid.....)

guys .I need to send my phone for guaranty repair.
my phone is cid changed.hboot .s-off and I am using revolutionary hd 2.3 android rom.
I want to know how we can completely return phone to stock mode .stock rom.stock cid and without h.boot ,without all staff's that we made for unlock our phones .
absolutely untoucked phone .
revolutionary
pyramid PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-!.17.1111
RADIO-10.11.9007.27_M3
eMMC-boot

One word: RUU.
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what do you meen ? what is RUU.?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...85l0l6122l4l4l0l1l1l0l280l762l2-3l3l0.frgbld.
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Rom Update Utility. Contains stock rom, recovery and firmware that get your phone in factory state and comes in a .exe executable file. Only thing AFTER applying RUU to be completely stock is switching to s on. Get a proper ruu and flash it
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thanks alot but could you please send me a link of Sensation ruu.I cannt find any.all ruu are FOR ICS .thanks again

hi i am on cook rom (not ics cook rom)
and now i wanted to restore back to original is this the correct way to do it??
1. installing the 1.35.707.1 RUU
FileFactory Folder View - Pyramid
RUU​_Pyramid​_hTC​_Asia​_WWE​_1.35​.707​.1_Radio​_10.43a​.9007​.0..​.
2. & installing the 1.45.707.1 OTA update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17467303&postcount=5
only 2 steps?

what is the diffrent between ota file and official exe rom file ?

OTA is like a Windows update - it just changes part of the system. An RUU is the complete ROM - radio, firmware, hboot, the lot!

some one help please

bluelove2 said:
thanks alot but could you please send me a link of Sensation ruu.I cannt find any.all ruu are FOR ICS .thanks again
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