I recently picked up a Galaxy Note for at&t and love the 5.3" Super amoled HD display. I've never been a big fan of Samsung phones and there cheap build quality but the Note's screen had me sold. On the other hand, I've always been a huge fan of HTC products and their premium build quality. I also prefer sense over touch wiz but that really doesn't matter seeing that I usually flash stock roms onto my devices. It really boils down to the display for me. So if anyone has seen the HTC One X in person or knows if the technology in the LCD 2 display is comparable or better than the Super Amoled HD display on the galaxy note, please let me know. I couldn't stand looking back at the grayish blacks on my old sensation compared to my galaxy note. I've read that the one x has great viewing angles but i haven't heard anyone compare it to amoled and i can't really judge from photos and videos as most displays look better in person. So... What do you guys think about the displays? Is it worth exchanging the note for a HTC One XL preorder? All help is appreciated and i will give thanks to those that are helpful.
Did you try hitting someone up on Twitter who is a tech blogger that made their way to Mobile World Congress?
Maybe someone will take the time to give you their feelings on the SLCD2 screen on the One X.
there are a couple people in the One X forums who are currently testing the phone. Since it is the exact same device sans chip and storage, I would venture there because there is a lot more activity. On a side note, I hear the super LCD 2 is a FANTASTIC screen...
Thanks. I'll try to do some more searching. I thanked you both. Also, I did find a beta tester but he has yet to mention anything about the screen. I'll shoot him a message.
Well I try the SuperLCD 2 in MWC and I was really excited because it's screen are very brilliant and colorfull. The black is strong black, not exactly how shows SuperAmoled but pretty well. I have a Sensation and has BIG difference betwen it.
And one more thing (not just an Apple ) the One X screen (same on One XL) is Super IPS screen.
I think that contrast is 1:10000 when in sensation was 1:7000.
Hope I help you! Sorry for my english xD
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dave927 said:
Well I try the SuperLCD 2 in MWC and I was really excited because it's screen are very brilliant and colorfull. The black is strong black, not exactly how shows SuperAmoled but pretty well. I have a Sensation and has BIG difference betwen it.
And one more thing (not just an Apple ) the One X screen (same on One XL) is Super IPS screen.
I think that contrast is 1:10000 when in sensation was 1:7000.
Hope I help you! Sorry for my english xD
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dude, HTC sensation series only have 1:1000 contrast. I highly doubt that One XL up to 10000. I think it only up to 1300 contrast.
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dude, HTC sensation series only have 1:1000 contrast. I highly doubt that One XL up to 10000. I think it only up to 1300 contrast.
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Sorry mate, I write one more zero xD
Sensation XL: 1:1000
Sensation: 1:700
One XL: More or less like Sensation XL, but I think that's more contrast than this.
I 'm also wondering this.
HTC One S has Super Amoled Pentile
HTC One X has Super LCD 2
which is better?
which has less consume?
EDIT:
This can help: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/29/screen-comparison-galaxy-nexus-vs-droid-razr-vs-htc-rezound/
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I 'm also wondering this.
HTC One S has Super Amoled Pentile
HTC One X has Super LCD 2
which is better?
which has less consume?
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The amoled screen will probably have a better contrast and black-shades, if you use a black wallpaper Super AMOLED is probably also more battery friendly.
But I must say the screen of the One X impressed me in every video I saw, ofcourse that doesn't mean that much but it certainly means something.
The verge said the One X is the best display they've seen on a mobile device period. They said it will be the standard for all other displays to be held against now.
I wonder about any review that just says "it's the best display ever" without mentioning the specific categories it's the "best" in. Color accuracy? Brightness? Black levels? Off-axis viewing? Power consumption? Weight/thickness. Etc etc.
Most cell phone reviewers are guilty of this. TV reviewers are more thorough in this regard. If LCD 2 has black levels and power consumption similar to OLED I'll be impressed. I'm doubtful though. Black levels are huge for me. After owning the galaxy s2 and the galaxy 7.7 I'll never be able to go back to an inferior display.
SLCD 2 has better viewing angles, color accuracy, and white levels than amoled.
Amoled has better black levels.
Also this is full RGB stripe. NOT pentile. Making this the best phone display on the market currently.
yeah and what you seen on the screen seems to be over the glass.. the same effect nokia used with the lumia 800! (i've never seen a 900 so i don't know about that)..
That's just amazing.. I wish they used a smaller screen in order to have a better pixel density, but i guess that's enough
Android central posted a comparison of galaxy nexus and the one x. One x K.O the Pentile display of the nexus.
"The One X's display makes the Galaxy Nexus look like an old yellowed newspaper."
I cannot wait to compare it to the pentile samoled of the galaxy note and rgb samoled plus of the 7.7 for myself.
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I wonder about any review that just says "it's the best display ever" without mentioning the specific categories it's the "best" in. Color accuracy? Brightness? Black levels? Off-axis viewing? Power consumption? Weight/thickness. Etc etc.
Most cell phone reviewers are guilty of this. TV reviewers are more thorough in this regard. If LCD 2 has black levels and power consumption similar to OLED I'll be impressed. I'm doubtful though. Black levels are huge for me. After owning the galaxy s2 and the galaxy 7.7 I'll never be able to go back to an inferior display.
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They mention all of that. Read the review. Colors are accurate, the panel is laminated. Viewing angles are impeccable. The resolution is incredible. You can see it outside in daylight. What do you want?
Anandtech will do actual measurements at some point, most people aren't interested in those.
That's the image comparison from Engadget(hope ok to post that)
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After viewing the gorgeous non-PenTile 720p HD display on the One X for a few days, we realized just how difficult it was to revert to the S's qHD Super AMOLED panel. Let's put it this way: it's nearly the same screen as on the Droid RAZR, which comes as a tremendous disappointment to us. While we admit that the colors on the AMOLED display are a bit more saturated, that's all it has going for it. The pixelation is still easily noticeable -- in fact, it was the very first thing that stood out when we turned the S on for the first time. In contrast, the X's S-LCD 2 is definitely one of the nicest screens you can get right now, and there's no doubt it trumps the One S.
hi guys
Check out my youtube channel /staceyraver ....i did a video comparing the screens on the one x and galaxy nexus. There's also a couple of scratch test videos in there if you're interested.
alternatively all the posts are on my blog (with added photographs) at
www.techstace.blogspot.com
Super LCD 2 is apparently better!
When comparing both the screens with an image taken by a DSLR one X display seems to be more crisper and close to the original over more saturated amoled SIII screen, though the camera quality is said to be better in S3
Shreyas.
I have both the Nexus and the One X and the only advantage of the Nexus is the black levels. Imo super LCD has caught up in contrast levels and surpassed SA in viewing angles. The brightness output of SLCD2 kills the Amoled on the Nexus.
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still amoled wins
I compared my One X screen to the galaxy S3 screen. Even though the colors of the HOX are more accurate and the screen is more bright doesn't change the fact that black just isn't black...
Also the S3 screen uses way less power and thus doesn't heat up the phone as bad.
For me the S3 is the winner, can't wait to switch from my HOX to S3 for this reason...
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I am sick of reading biased news and comments about the Pentile screens,
some say "don't care" and some say "it's crap", with or without evidence.
This "oppinions" war has become more evident after the internets learned about the Nexus's "sinful" PenTile screen
I just found this very interesting and objective article and wanted to share it with all of you:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...D---is-the-PenTile-matrix-bad-for-you_id23134
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The NOTE screen sure is green.
I don't see such a big deal in real world usage.
But I'm not one of those people with microscopic eyes.
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Exactly. It's pretty much placebo. The only difference I've seen over time is in lighting. Used to be you only saw a perfect pic when looking at the screen from exactly one point, any tiny deviation would be hugely noticeable. Now that that's gone, it's all the same. Unless the resolution is really low, like 480x320, then you notice the grid. Beyond that, like I said, it's all the same.
Definitely not placebo. I had issues before knowing exactly what was different with the screen. I tried but could not get over the sense that the screen was crawling even with no interaction. Very disconcerting and after a few minutes use, definite eye fatigue. I could not do my usual news/blog reading on the train every day.
I know folks that have no issues with pentile so it's definitely not a universally bad thing. But it's a troubling trend to me because it significantly limits my options.
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i've had a Samsung S8500 with Super Amoled PenTile screen (800x480), 3.3" then i bought my Desire S with the same nominal resolution on a 3.7" screen non-PenTile...the difference is clear even if the dpi is lower on Desire S, nothing shattering but without PenTile images are sharper
Some people see it and some don't. I noticed the "screen door" effect immediately on the Photon. I've heard that if you turn down the brightness it will lessen the effect but makes it harder to see the screen in sunlight. Most just keep auto brightness on and deal with it.
It's fine, and now with 300+ DPI phones, you cant even tell it's using PenTile
-Nexus S owner
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That's because it's a macro shot of a screen made up of 50% green sub-pixels. It will look white to the naked eye.
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Some people see it and some don't. I noticed the "screen door" effect immediately on the Photon. I've heard that if you turn down the brightness it will lessen the effect but makes it harder to see the screen in sunlight. Most just keep auto brightness on and deal with it.
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Motorola uses RGBW PenTile instead of the AMOLED's RGBG. It's really not the PenTile matrix at fault there - it's their use of it in a way too-large screen, combined with aggressive power-saving that causes off-colors and pattern visibility.
It's actually a bit different to the issues some have with RGBG. RGBG is actually pretty close to RGB stripe, but it relies on the make-up of the human eye. A relatively small number of people have a certain mutation that means their eyes don't exactly work the correct way for RGBG PenTile to be effective.
At the Galaxy Note and Galaxy Nexus' far higher pixel densities, the RGBG PenTile effect shouldn't even be visible to the naked eye any more. How it will affect those people who actually have a legitimate problem viewing it, we won't know until these screens actually reach the end-users.
To be honest I can't tell the difference with screens between my sgs 2 and captivate. Maybe my eyes aren't as good anymore because I regularly do art...
There is no noticeable difference between the two technologies that will be noticeable to the naked eye in normal circumstances. Period.
it really boils down to the user's perception of clarity of the screen.
but as long as it responds quickly that would be enough
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There is no noticeable difference between the two technologies that will be noticeable to the naked eye in normal circumstances. Period.
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What a load of bollocks. There's a huge difference - period.
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What a load of bollocks. There's a huge difference - period.
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You might as well want to elaborate to back yourself.
It’s actually next to impossible to see the dotiness or graininess of the on-screen image, on PenTile smartphones.
This is why i am excited to see LG's true HD 720p AH-IPS display found on the optimus LTE(s. Korea only). Reports and reviews are coming in that it is the best display on all mobile phone screen technology. Uses less power than super amoled and has crisper and sharper colors than the retina.
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I haven't seen any review about that phone. However, I hope that these words don't come from LG Marketing team, which wrote in their product package manual that less gamut on Nova screen (67%) is better than SuperAMOLED's 107%.
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It’s actually next to impossible to see the dotiness or graininess of the on-screen image, on PenTile smartphones.
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No its not. If your eyesight is still in good condition you can notice the wierd effects like checkerboard, blue/red dots in fonts and jaggy edges. This is coming from using Galaxy S, but with Galaxy Note and Nexus Primes higher pixel densities I doubt theres going to be a big issue.
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You might as well want to elaborate to back yourself.
It’s actually next to impossible to see the dotiness or graininess of the on-screen image, on PenTile smartphones.
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That depends an awful lot on exactly what you're looking at. With text, I have yet to try a pentile where the drawbacks weren't painfully obvious - and for me it does turn into pain in the form of eye strain and a headache if I keep at it.
With pictures it is sometimes obvious depending on subject. Moving pictures I rarely notice it but still develop eye strain after a while.
If you can't see it, you can't. Perhaps akin to color blindness. But to flat out claim it's next to impossible to see when it's actually impossible not to see for some is disingenuous. I'm not sure what kind of elaboration you want to convince you we're not just making stuff up as I can't easily show you what I see.
99% of my phone use is text. No games,rarely movies or pictures. Pentile displays I've tried all fail to be invisible for me so for now, they remove a lot of devices from consideration. I still try them just in case.
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Does the og EVO have pentile idle if it does if it does and the EVO 3d doesn't I want to compare to see otherwise I would Like to look at a lcd non pentile vs a pentile not a lcd vs a amoled. I think that's a unfair judgement or if someone can tell me a phone that has a pentile amoled screen that's new I know the sgsii isn't I'm just curious to compare. This is like can one see the diff between 720p or 1080p. Some people say they look the same and iv had some say they don't see the hype in bluray which I find crazy. So before I throw my thoughts in is like to compare.
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Call me crazy, but I could never let the type of screen determine my cell phone purchase...
http://www.apple.com/iphone/why-iphone/
Only the iPhone has Retina Display
The Retina display on iPhone ushered in the era of super-high-resolution displays. Its pixel density is so high, your eye can’t distinguish individual pixels. The images and words are amazingly vivid and crisp. Everything just looks so real. In fact, once you see a Retina display, you’re never satisfied with anything less. Yet it remains a feature found only on iPhone and other Apple products.
I think I just became dumber by reading that.
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http://www.apple.com/iphone/why-iphone/
Only the iPhone has Retina Display
The Retina display on iPhone ushered in the era of super-high-resolution displays. Its pixel density is so high, your eye can’t distinguish individual pixels. The images and words are amazingly vivid and crisp. Everything just looks so real. In fact, once you see a Retina display, you’re never satisfied with anything less. Yet it remains a feature found only on iPhone and other Apple products.
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Yeap they're the only ones who have the Retina Display.
I mean nobody ever created a display greater than 326ppi like ever.
It's impossible. Only the almighty Apple can do it.
It's so bloody(!) cool.
The retina term is trademarked by apple.
The average consumer probably doesn't know that.
The Retina display on iPhone ushered in the era of super-high-resolution displays. Its pixel density is so high, your eye can’t distinguish individual pixels. The images and words are amazingly vivid and crisp. Everything just looks so real. In fact, once you see a Retina display, you’re never satisfied with anything less. Yet it remains a feature found only on iPhone and other Apple products.
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The retina term is trademarked by apple.
The average consumer probably doesn't know that.
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I actually had an iPhone person play that card the other day. "But the iPhone has a Retina display." I ALMOST wasted my time explaining it all, but I stopped myself. I refused to dumb myself down for that conversation.
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hahaha epic gif
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LOOOOLlll LMAO nice vid. On another note, can the mods please close this useless thread?
JoJo2211 said:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/why-iphone/
Only the iPhone has Retina Display
The Retina display on iPhone ushered in the era of super-high-resolution displays. Its pixel density is so high, your eye can’t distinguish individual pixels. The images and words are amazingly vivid and crisp. Everything just looks so real. In fact, once you see a Retina display, you’re never satisfied with anything less. Yet it remains a feature found only on iPhone and other Apple products.
I think I just became dumber by reading that.
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I especially love the statement "once you see a retina display, you won't be satisfied with anything LESS". They didn't say anything ELSE because there are phones with BETTER displays including the soon to be released S4.
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The S4 will have a true HD display from what i have read... S4 = iPhone killer... Though for me, the Motorola Bionic was an iPhone killer. I just love the Android customization. Plus, i hate iTunes.
that so-called retina display is just a marketing gimmick, a silly name they feed to unknowing consumers...
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The S4 will have a true HD display from what i have read... S4 = iPhone killer... Though for me, the Motorola Bionic was an iPhone killer. I just love the Android customization. Plus, i hate iTunes.
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Bionic was the one of the worst android phone when it came out, so even the worst android phone is enough to beat the iPhone lol why not?
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Whats the definition of retina display?
300+ dpi & ips display??
There's no such "thing" as a retina display. It's a calculation based on what the human eye can process. This is from another thread but explains it.
On a small format device 1080P is a gimmick. Someone said they could tell the difference between HTC's 1080P displays and previous 720P displays. They couldn't; not unless they held the device closer than 10" or have better than 20/20 vision. And it has nothing to do with the display and everything to do with what the human eye is capable of processing. Does anyone know why Apple coined the term "Retina" display? It isn't about a specific PPI, it's about providing the maximum number of pixels the human eye's capable of resolving at 10-12" away which is the typical distance people view their phones from. For the iPhone 5 that's 326 PPI (it varies based on display size).*
Here's a little physiology lesson. The 20/20 human eye has a maximum visual acuity of 1 arcminute. That is, two points must subtend an angle greater than 1 arcminute in order for a 20/20 eye to resolve the two points. What this means for displays is that pixels must have an angular subtense of 1 arcminute in order for your eye to resolve the detail in the content. Above that, your eye could discern things like jaggies on text and the edges of icons. Detail below 1 arcminute isn't perceived by the human eye any differently whether a display has 267 PPI or 468 PPI. The Note II’s 5.5” display at 267 PPI has an arcminute subtense of 1.073 which, based on the size of its display, is near perfect. The One’s 4.7” display has an acrminute subtense of 0.64 and anything below "1" is wasted.
And with the new fixation on resolution things like brightness, contrast, and color accuracy get swept under the rug because all people are focusing on is a PPI count rather than the actual quality of the display. To get to 1080P every display released so far has suffered in quality in some way. The DNA's display was less bright with less contrast than the One X's and the One's has less color accuracy with poor color temperature.
So, with the human eye being the lowest common denominator the selection of PPI is being done ass backwards. Deciding on the optimum PPI for any given device should be an arithmetic equation; not manufacturers arbitrarily pulling numbers our of their butts to out-feature each other. The above talking about what the human eye can process is irrefutable fact (ask your ophthalmologist). With an arcminute subtense of "1" ideal for the human eye to process detail, the manufacturers should pick the*lowest*PPI that achieves "1" arcminute at 10-12" away. Why the lowest? Because the higher the PPI the bigger the drain on the battery, GPU, and CPU. And why reduce the performance of a device when the end result is the human eye can't process the additional detail being provided anyway?
It's all kind of moot anyway because as OP pointed out, it's a "gimmick" to sell more phones. So we're all going to end up with 1080P displays one way or the other because that's where manufacturer's marketing is taking us.
Also, the additional detail higher PPI displays are capable of only apply to CGI like the UI, buttons, and text. Pictures and video are spread out over more than one pixel and are never aligned with the pixel structure of the display so their inherently fuzzy. Videos are even worse because their also moving.
This article explains further on how PPI impacts content on a small format device.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/...ssibly-matter/here's
I view my Note 2 only 6 inches away from my face. I can't even imagine viewing that TINY iPhone 10-12 inches away from your face.
Ya, the thing is that nobody else calls it a "Retina display"...even though about 10+ phones have a high PPI than the iPhone 5. It's just the name. Hopefully with the next model they can make a phone that actually stands up to modern phones spec wise.... (yeah right.)
I've been an Android user for a few years but work recently provided me with an iPhone, I have to say the new Android phones coming out has me tempted to purchase my own phone and walk around with two phones.
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Yeow! I love this!
Oh look, another typical android circlejerking thread that has absolutely nothing to do with the phone of the section.
Apple invented the Retina name right after they invented the rectangle with round corners.
The retina screen is made by Samsung (if I'm not mistaken) apple didn't create anything, a bunch of pencil pushers behind a desk designed it overnight....
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Hi folks,
I had a change handon S4. Here are some pics for you first
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Sleep now and I will update about next 8hours
noticed how the sensors, LED and speaker are much closer to the bezel compared to them being centered across on the S3. looks a bit weird, cosmetically speaking..
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Another pic of screen/display: S4 vs Note 2:
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Wow that is tiny compared to the note2.
tft said:
noticed how the sensors, LED and speaker are much closer to the bezel compared to them being centered across on the S3. looks a bit weird, cosmetically speaking..
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1. Look sexier with me
2. Maybe cause of narrower bezel and for more accuracy eyes tracking
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Zanr Zij said:
1. Look more sexy with me
2. Maybe cause of narrower bezel and for more accuracy eyes tracking
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Just a copy of the S3 but with better specs.
Samsung must change it looks with metal like the iphone (i am not a iphone fan but the look of the Iphone4 is just nice)
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Just a copy of the S3 but with better specs.
Samsung must change it looks with metal like the iphone (i am not a iphone fan but the look of the Iphone4 is just nice)
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In term of material, 100% I agree with you about metal bezel.
Before I saw S4 pics on web/pic I though like you: S3s but in real life S4 much more different than S3: sexier, better build, minutely. Totally S4 has good looking.
The worst: small/slim bezel next to screen can not be replace without replace screen.
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Is it me or does the note 2 has better whites? S4 white looks pinkish
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Is it me or does the note 2 has better whites? S4 white looks pinkish
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It's not technically better whites. It's just better brightness.
People confuse brightness with quality of white. GN2 is brighter than GS4. White is more closer to color temperature rather than brightness.
Here's a good example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40311908&postcount=226
CLARiiON said:
It's not technically better whites. It's just better brightness.
People confuse brightness with quality of white. GN2 is brighter than GS4. White is more closer to color temperature rather than brightness.
Here's a good example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40311908&postcount=226
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But none of them look white. N2 is grey and SGS4 is red...
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But none of them look white. N2 is grey and SGS4 is red...
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Movie mode
MohJee said:
Is it me or does the note 2 has better whites? S4 white looks pinkish
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I don't care much about technical more than real life .
Cause of limited of my camera tech, Note 2 has blue tint but S4 reduce it much, no pink tint.
But when compare to IPS LCD, S4 white still is not good as.
"Photo Professional" screen mode = very good mode, a balance between standard and natural mode
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It's not technically better whites. It's just better brightness.
People confuse brightness with quality of white. GN2 is brighter than GS4. White is more closer to color temperature rather than brightness.
Here's a good example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40311908&postcount=226
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Movie mode
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Yes! Movie mode look a little bit better Photo Pro mode but hard to determine it. SS has done a very good job!
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Can you give us some stills in dark rooms (both normal and night mode) and compare them with Note 2?
Really wanna see how it is improved.
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Can you give us some stills in dark rooms (both normal and night mode) and compare them with Note 2?
Really wanna see how it is improved.
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I will do today. It is Samsung sample for local media .
As I tried, S4 is noticable better Note 2
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Here are other angles of screen
s4 vs Note 2
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please can u install this GPU benchmark and post the results
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mdXR1cmVtYXJrLmRtYW5kcm9pZC5hcHBsaWNhdGlvbiJd
Zanr Zij said:
Here are other angles of screen
s4 vs Note 2
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Oh great. I'm so sick about the color shifting on Note 2 when the viewing angle sightly changes (maybe due to the strange subpixel stripes layout).
I can see that on S4 it's much better now.
It's sunny in Hanoi now, so can yoou give us same photos (and comments also) about sunlight legitibility of S4 compared to Note 2? Thanks.
Find it so funny how people get hung up on **** they don't notice unless it's being compared to another phone. When do you ever get the current top smart phones and compare them all in real life? When you're using the phone on it's own your brain thinks that is pure white and it is what you see it as. I have never used a phone and thought "that has a red tint" or whatever, no because you do not notice it in every day use.
Instead of going by the numbers and what not, lets just see how it looks in everyday use.
If it does have a slight red tint it actually will save power as red is the next best thing to black on an AMOLED in order to to use less screen power. Not saying its good or bad for visuals, just elaborating there may be more a reason for it. What type of gamma do they use, is it more oriented to fluorescent or incandescent lighting?
I am thinking on buying this phone.
What about screen quality, let's say compared to Nexus 5?
I am aware the resolution is lower. The DPI are very high anyway on the Moto G so that shouldn't be a problem at all.
What I am really interested in is screen quality.
What can you say abou that?
Thanks!
Not too bad
The Nexus 5 boasts a 4.95-inch 1920×1080
display (445 ppi) while the Moto G comes with
a 4.5-inch 1280×720 (329 ppi) screen. Not
only smaller, the Motorola screen is also a
lower resolution and pixel per inch count. Not
that this is perceptible to most users, but’s a
difference on paper. What’s more, the added
benefit of the lower resolution comes in
battery life and performance. In other words,
it’s less demanding of the phone to power
those pixels.
Any way N5 is better at every single aspect than the moto G but being said thats its cheaper and its resolution is also not too bad so It would be a better option if you have a low budget.........
Nexus 5 =Excellent
Moto G =Very good
Hit thanks if helped....
Until I get a moto g I won't be able to honestly comment but in he reviews I've read the colour reproduction is supposed to be better than the N5.
I have perfect vision and comparing a 329ppi and and 445ppi would be so minute that 99% of people wouldn't be able to tell the difference
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I have both a Nexus 5 and a Moto G with me at the moment.
Yes the Nexus 5 screen is better (hardly surprising) but the Moto G is still very good, especially when you take into account it's pricetag.
Rusty! said:
I have both a Nexus 5 and a Moto G with me at the moment.
Yes the Nexus 5 screen is better (hardly surprising) but the Moto G is still very good, especially when you take into account it's pricetag.
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Hi Rusty. I want to know abt the Camera Quality of Moto G. is that comparable to as that of Nexus 4's? I know that N4's cam is 8MP as compared to MotoG's just 5MP. But its not always about the Pixel count. I have seen some sample shots of MotoG and they look quite promising.
Regards,
Shikhar
Had N5 too, Moto G screen is better in colors and viewing angles. Even the black is more black on Moto G, and not "grey" as with Nexus 5.
shikhar623 said:
Hi Rusty. I want to know abt the Camera Quality of Moto G. is that comparable to as that of Nexus 4's? I know that N4's cam is 8MP as compared to MotoG's just 5MP. But its not always about the Pixel count. I have seen some sample shots of MotoG and they look quite promising.
Regards,
Shikhar
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No not really, the shots I've taken with the G are not as good as the Nexus 4/5. That could just be me though.
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Had N5 too, Moto G screen is better in colors and viewing angles. Even the black is more black on Moto G, and not "grey" as with Nexus 5.
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They use different display Technologies
N5=IPS
Moto G=AMOLED
IPS has more Accurate colours, "USUALLY" has better viewing angles, MUCH higher max brightness (nits)
AMOLED has oversaturated colours causing the colours to "Pop", Much Deeper blacks because the Pixels aren't On unlike IPS and because of that it tends to have slightly better battery life
BoltActionWaffle said:
They use different display Technologies
N5=IPS
Moto G=AMOLED
IPS has more Accurate colours, "USUALLY" has better viewing angles, MUCH higher max brightness (nits)
AMOLED has oversaturated colours causing the colours to "Pop", Much Deeper blacks because the Pixels aren't On unlike IPS and because of that it tends to have slightly better battery life
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Pretty sure Moto G uses IPS as well, it was mentioned in all the tech news I read. There is a possibility that they could be wrong, but I think they out number you before proven otherwise
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They use different display Technologies
N5=IPS
Moto G=AMOLED
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Moto X uses AMOLED, Moto G and Nexus 5 have both IPS LCD and believe me, Nexus 5 is way more worse in viewing angles than Moto G.
@BoltActionWaffle, Research when you have time. Moto G has an IPS like panel and LCD screen. If you say, Amoled then you're referring to Moto X.. okay?
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Moto X uses AMOLED, Moto G and Nexus 5 have both IPS LCD and believe me, Nexus 5 is way more worse in viewing angles than Moto G.
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N5 has the worse screen?
Only if viewing angles are all you care about.
Most people don't use their phone at 60°, though.
I do care, yes, because I see this every day when the Phone lies next to me on the desk.
You don't even need 60°, don't try to troll me
I don't know what all the fuss about viewing angles is, personally I look at my phone head on
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I don't think we should discuss here, if, why and when something is useful/stupid or not - the OP clearly asked a question: "How is the screen quality compared to for example a Nexus 5" and so we should answer this
Sorry for the people who own a more expensive phone with lack of screen quality compared to a budget phone, and this implies color, black point and viewing angles, but reality is sometimes hard to take.
chonghua said:
@BoltActionWaffle, Research when you have time. Moto G has an IPS like panel and LCD screen. If you say, Amoled then you're referring to Moto X.. okay?
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Oh shoot, Sorry I was thinking about the Moto X. :/
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Moto X uses AMOLED, Moto G and Nexus 5 have both IPS LCD and believe me, Nexus 5 is way more worse in viewing angles than Moto G.
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Sorry, I got confused with the Moto X. :/
The Moto G screen is alright. Compared it right to my Nexus 5 and couldnt make out a large difference. Both are IPS as mentioned before. Although the black is darker on AMOLED, I prefer the colortone of IPS panels.
This is the best screen I have had. It seems way sharper and colourful than my friends s4. I actually had n5, i5, s4 and MG out together and the mg looked best. It wasn't just price that blinded me, it was clarity. As for Camera, it takes much better pics than my old DHD and nexS.
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I don't know what all the fuss about viewing angles is, personally I look at my phone head on
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Yeah that's what I was getting at
Samsung please make in the future smartphones:
OIS
Remove modulation at medium and low brightness, as it did in the Fly IQ444 Diamond 2 Quattro, Motorola Razr HD (XT925) and LG G Flex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=amuHUv6hGiM
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Remove Dynamic and Standard modes. These modes are as bone that samsung threw for some reviewers and haters. Benefit from them is no, only cons. Because at testers gray is blue, red is orange, they specially put this modes, they have very cold tone (6500-6700K - Cinema and pro photo mode, 7500-8000K - Dynamic and Standard). Anyway all image are designed for SRGB standard, and enhanced range is color distortion, red hues (at normal color temperature) and oversaturation.
Сomplete yet color gamut to 100% SRGB, the unnecessary 6-7% still sometimes make themselves known. (but 106% instead of 122% in S4 is a good job).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7PP8mgv0eCY#t=798 (This is Cinema Mode)
Metal Body (antennas should be behind the plastic, glass or other material, but not metal, so did HTC, Apple and Sony, otherwise the connection will be very bad).
Thanks
It would be ideal. Isocell, improved super amoled (brightness, viewing angles, color reproduction in cinema and pro photo mode, anti-glare), waterproof, interface speed and battery life is awesome.
Who are close to the developers of samsung, please show them this post
I'd think there are many more important issues with phones nowadays than screen calibration. If you want to edit photos, get a good monitor and calibrate it. If you want to watch movies, get a 65" plasma or OLED and stop complaining about stuff that has little relevance in smartphones.
Szadzik said:
I'd think there are many more important issues with phones nowadays than screen calibration. If you want to edit photos, get a good monitor and calibrate it. If you want to watch movies, get a 65" plasma or OLED and stop complaining about stuff that has little relevance in smartphones.
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It is much more important than unnecessary megapixels, megahertz, cores and ppi's.
It's about quality of display, which can be much better,
about the impact on eyes and eye fatigue,
about shooting in low light,
about solid and feeling that you hold the thing for ages
about "vulnerabilities", which can fault reviewers and haters
sonyfan12 said:
It is much more important than unnecessary megapixels, megahertz, cores and ppi's.
It's about quality of display, which can be much better,
about the impact on eyes and eye fatigue,
about shooting in low light,
about solid and feeling that you hold the thing for ages
about "vulnerabilities", which can fault reviewers and haters
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I prefer a fast phone with a perfect screen, than a slow phone with a good screen.
We already have good screens and if Samsung devotes loads of hours to making the screen much better, they will either need to make the phone super expensive to pay for those extra hours or they will have to cut corners in other areas to save money.
The law of diminishing returns - you spend 10% of time to achieve 90% of what you want and 90% for the rest 10%.
Less screen modes? More accurate? It will be a cold day in hell when Samsung stops emphasizing the saturated colors that only come from AMOLED. There's a reason why they use it on all flagships.
Lots of people prefer that saturated profile.
I would be always against taking choice away from customer.
Cinema is quite good Btw. Not perfect but it's close to accurate.
First thing I did when I bought this phone was changing the screen mode. That's Android strength: let me choose.
OIS: yes please.
Metal body: only if it's not form over function.
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Less screen modes? More accurate? It will be a cold day in hell when Samsung stops emphasizing the saturated colors that only come from AMOLED. There's a reason why they use it on all flagships.
Lots of people prefer that saturated profile.
I would be always against taking choice away from customer.
Cinema is quite good Btw. Not perfect but it's close to accurate.
First thing I did when I bought this phone was changing the screen mode. That's Android strength: let me choose.
OIS: yes please.
Metal body: only if it's not form over function.
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Gotta agree with this post.
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I prefer a fast phone with a perfect screen, than a slow phone with a good screen.
We already have good screens and if Samsung devotes loads of hours to making the screen much better, they will either need to make the phone super expensive to pay for those extra hours or they will have to cut corners in other areas to save money.
The law of diminishing returns - you spend 10% of time to achieve 90% of what you want and 90% for the rest 10%.
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To the speed these improvements have absolutely no affected. And make them easy as shelling pears
drakester09 said:
Less screen modes? More accurate? It will be a cold day in hell when Samsung stops emphasizing the saturated colors that only come from AMOLED. There's a reason why they use it on all flagships.
Lots of people prefer that saturated profile.
I would be always against taking choice away from customer.
Cinema is quite good Btw. Not perfect but it's close to accurate.
First thing I did when I bought this phone was changing the screen mode. That's Android strength: let me choose.
OIS: yes please.
Metal body: only if it's not form over function.
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The main advantages of amoled is not oversaturation and distortion. The main advantages is ideal black color, ideal contrast, ideal viewing angle, ideal response speed, all much better than lcd
That's true, S5 doesn't look like a 2014 flagship.
bfg425 said:
That's true, S5 doesn't look like a 2014 flagship.
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Then don't buy it and you're all good. :thumbup:
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Then don't buy it and you're all good. :thumbup:
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+1
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