Rooting? (Not Newb Question) - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys. So I want to install CWM Recovery + Root, but a lot of guides are saying to unlock bootloader but I believe I already have that (The unlock sign appears on boot up)
So just want to know where I should go from here to get root + Install custom roms?

Check out this guide....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088494

This is this for the Nexus S 4G and I have the U.K GSM Version. Will this work?

JccageX2 said:
This is this for the Nexus S 4G and I have the U.K GSM Version. Will this work?
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It should work just fine for both GSM and CDMA versions.

Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544940 a one click root tool developed by me that will unlock bootloader,flash the latest touch CWM and superuser, you should not worry if you have an unlocked bootloader cause it will still work.

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Custom ROM For Motorola Charm. Help Please

Hi,
I am planning to create a custom roms for Charm/Flipout.
I have rooted my device and planning to create system.img (Without Motoblur, etc ) .Before that I have some questions that needs help.
1 .Can I install cynanogen rom (For Droid for any other) in my rooted charm device ?
2. I am planning to flash aman ra recovery. If i flash the recovery, will the bootloader would be overwritten . ?
3. Can I do a nandroid backup before flashing the recovery. Basically becoz If i screw up I can come back to my rom (Asian stock rom). ?
4. Is there any custom roms (2.2) for motorola charm device ? (I saw a Tmobile stock rom floating)
Thank you guys.
Hi,
I would be happy to help.... I have a Charm without Blur. If someone can teach me how to dump the Rom, I could help....
Matt
matteosg said:
Hi,
I would be happy to help.... I have a Charm without Blur. If someone can teach me how to dump the Rom, I could help....
Matt
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I can only overwrite my Charm's ROM with Motorola's different versions. Haven't tried them all yet (only the T-Mobile version has booted).
I'm trying to get Freeyo to make us a custom ROM by donating a him a Charm:
http://www.cronosproject.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=664&p=23467
Here's the original Charm T-Mobile ROM and another ROM for Charm without Blur - but it didn't boot when I flashed it to my T-Mobile Charm using RSDLite 4.5.3 - I had to flash T-Mobile again.
Haven't found a way to (nan- or clockworkmod-) backup the entire ROM.
Charm ROMs:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:mb502
You open the recovery menu (only good for wiping and installing a signed update.zip - not backup) by holding power and X. When M logo appears release Power.
To flash an *.fsb ROM using USB cable and RSDLite you must hold down arrow up and power - then release power.
saravanadel said:
1 .Can I install cynanogen rom (For Droid for any other) in my rooted charm device ?
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No. Installing a custom ROM not signed by Motorola required a custom recovery image.
saravanadel said:
2. I am planning to flash aman ra recovery. If i flash the recovery, will the bootloader would be overwritten . ?
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In order to install a custom Recovery you need an unlocked bootloader. Unfortunately Bootloader on Charm is still locked.
saravanadel said:
3. Can I do a nandroid backup before flashing the recovery. Basically becoz If i screw up I can come back to my rom (Asian stock rom). ?
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You can't run nandroid on devices with locked bootloaders.
saravanadel said:
4. Is there any custom roms (2.2) for motorola charm device ? (I saw a Tmobile stock rom floating)
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There are currently no custom ROMs for the Charm because its bootloader is still locked. The stock T-Mobile image is the official one that is signed and therefore can be flashed on the locked bootloader.
> In order to install a custom Recovery you need an unlocked bootloader.
> Unfortunately Bootloader on Charm is still locked.
Can't developers sign ROMs themselves? Cheat the bootloader by signing a custom ROM?
The recovery tool menu (hold X while booting and release it when M-logo appears) can apply update.zip and I guess those must be signed as well but perhaps the developers can do that.
> There are currently no custom ROMs for the Charm
But apart from the official T-Mobile ROM there is an official DEBLUR ROM (which didn't boot for me, though) - and there Motorolas open source repository if developers want to build a ROM themselves, I guess. I haven't found the Telus ROM but I suspect it's also on Motorolals non-listed download server but its direct link is unknown.
Thanks about power on + up arrow press to bootloader... I'm trying to flash that Android without blur on my MB502... Let's see if it will work
Crossing fingers!
dvfk said:
> In order to install a custom Recovery you need an unlocked bootloader.
> Unfortunately Bootloader on Charm is still locked.
Can't developers sign ROMs themselves? Cheat the bootloader by signing a custom ROM?
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On an unlocked bootloader the signature of the ROM you are flashing must match Motorola's (which are a secret, obviously). The whole point of unlocking the bootloader is to be able to flash ROMs with different signatures.
Just a heads up to Charm owners.
NEVER EVER EVER flash the T-Mobile Charm ROM if you're not on T-Mobile.
Your phone will be stuck on that ROM because flashing it messes with your bootloader, and the bootloader won't be able to accept any other ROM.
If you want to de-blur use this:
https://rsddownload.motorola.com/do...00_UC1SOMPBASLRTINT_P025_A016_HWp3_1FF.sbf.gz
ergosteur said:
Just a heads up to Charm owners.
NEVER EVER EVER flash the T-Mobile Charm ROM if you're not on T-Mobile.
Your phone will be stuck on that ROM because flashing it messes with your bootloader, and the bootloader won't be able to accept any other ROM.
If you want to de-blur use this:
https://rsddownload.motorola.com/do...00_UC1SOMPBASLRTINT_P025_A016_HWp3_1FF.sbf.gz
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I have a T-Mobile branded Charm that is unlocked and I use it on AT&T's network. It's stuck on EDGE because of the different frequencies, but I don't mind.
What's this image? Judging by the file name, it looks like it's for "Basil" which appears to be Motorla's internal code name for Charm. Would it work on an unlocked T-Mobile Charm running on AT&T?
Can i build an custom recovery image and flash it using the update.zip method.
Steps in building custom rom
koushikdutta.com/2010/10/porting-clockwork-recovery-to-new.html
Here my build fails in the step where i link with the boot.img
In my charm I have taken the boot.img using cat /proc/mtd.
When building it says invalid header
Any suggestions.
Before that is this method possible ?
saravanadel said:
Before that is this method possible ?
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No, because you would have to sign that recovery image with keys that only Motorola engineers know.
Hi,
Please android geeks, any suggestions to unlock the bootloader on charm.
Note: popular devices are the benefitted ones. Unique models and low end phone are not cared by geeks, I guess.
In the thread 'Motorola Charm!' the user polovinamozga has finally cracked the bootloader! Even tried cyanogen 6 on the Charm
dvfk said:
In the thread 'Motorola Charm!' the user polovinamozga has finally cracked the bootloader! Even tried cyanogen 6 on the Charm
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That's not entirely correct. He didn't crack the bootloader, he bypassed it.
This is awesome news. We should now be able to flash custom ROMs, just not custom kernels. But even without kernel enhancements there's a lot that can be done to make Charm better.
Chahk said:
I have a T-Mobile branded Charm that is unlocked and I use it on AT&T's network. It's stuck on EDGE because of the different frequencies, but I don't mind.
What's this image? Judging by the file name, it looks like it's for "Basil" which appears to be Motorla's internal code name for Charm. Would it work on an unlocked T-Mobile Charm running on AT&T?
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It's the deblur rom from http://and-developers.com/sbf:mb502
I don't think it works on T-Mo charms because the T-Mobile charm seems to have a newer bootloader which won't accept older ROMs like the Deblur one.
Charm ROM
Hi Guys,
not sure if this is helpful, got this link from a chinese website. my Asia Charm is running BASEM_U3_01.12.0_DEBLUR.
https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/frs/do/viewSummary/projects.charm/frs
Matt
eagerly awaiting for the custom rom...
Chahk said:
That's not entirely correct. He didn't crack the bootloader, he bypassed it.
This is awesome news. We should now be able to flash custom ROMs, just not custom kernels. But even without kernel enhancements there's a lot that can be done to make Charm better.
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why charm can root,Can not customize the ROM

Difference between unlocking bootloader and rooting

Does unlocking the bootloader give you root?
And in which instances can you flash a custom recovery or customs ROMs?
Rooting means you can install apps that require root access (like titanium backup or setcpu). Unlocked bootloader means you can load any rom, kernel, etc that you like. Unlocked bootloader is usually acquired after rooting.
I'm not sure I totally understand the first reply, so here is my take on it.
Rooting will let you install apps that require root as already stated, but rooting will let you install custom ROMs and do just about any tweak you want. I finally did unlock my bootloader, but the only benefit I gained was being able to change the flash screen, which is the first screen you see when the phone powers on.
I have read that it's harder to brick your phone with a s=off bootloader too.
It is not harder to brick your phone with an unlocked bootloader, just easier to recover from a soft-brick. An unlocked bootloader will allow you to flash using fastboot. So in the case of a corrupt recovery, or something along those lines, you are able to flash it using your computer. It basically allows you to flash different parts of an image separately.
lowandbehold said:
It is not harder to brick your phone with an unlocked bootloader, just easier to recover from a soft-brick.
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That's pretty much what I meant, I just didn't say it right. Thanks for clearing it up.
How to find my phones' bootloader is locked or not? Because i already flashed different custom ROMs and using it.
Regards,
Cjey
If you are rooted with a custom recovery, your bootloader is unlocked.
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If you are rooted with a custom recovery, your bootloader is unlocked.
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Thanks buddy,
I want to know that what if i flash ROM for locked bootloaders?
Honestly, I didn't know you can root your phone till today I read a few posts here. So thank you all guys for the input
slight confusion over rooted
i had the .67 generic uk firmware, i downloaded the central europe .73 firmware and used flashtool to flash the ftf file,
all worked fine once i installed the drivers on flash tool,
my confusion is...... alot of people are saying there phone is rooted/bootloader unlocked, am i rite in thinking my phone is rooted and not unlocked,
others have also said they have flashed the .img to the phone which i havent done, is there something ive done wrong ?

[Q] Return to stock?? Root with out unlock??

Hey Guys, I am curious as to if this device can be returned to stock after rooting / unlocking. I'm also wondering if we can root it and flash custom recovery without unlocking the boot loader. Also, once you have changed roms can you go back to the stock rom and ASUS not know?
pryorda said:
Hey Guys, I am curious as to if this device can be returned to stock after rooting / unlocking. I'm also wondering if we can root it and flash custom recovery without unlocking the boot loader. Also, once you have changed roms can you go back to the stock rom and ASUS not know?
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Not sure I understand your first question. Rooting and/or unlocking does not remove your stock rom...
And no, you must be unlocked to flash custom recovery . And no, it is not possible to relock, so ASUS will know your device has been unlocked,
hmm.
bwiberg said:
Not sure I understand your first question. Rooting and/or unlocking does not remove your stock rom...
And no, you must be unlocked to flash custom recovery . And no, it is not possible to relock, so ASUS will know your device has been unlocked,
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Lame Do you have to be unlocked to Root and Debloat?
no mate there is a way to root and keep you bootloader locked, its called motochopper and there is a guide on here
Rooting locked is sufficient to remove bloatware.
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[Q] Dev Edition, Unlocked Bootloader Root Question

Hey uys, first off if this is a dupe, my bad. I did a bit of searching and couldnt find a topic that addressed this question specifically for the droid maxx DE.
I have my DE on 4.2.2, never took any updates. I have since unlocked the bootloader, and am rooted.
I wanted to know if rooting this phone with bootloader unlocked was as simple as installing supersu or superuser from the play store? I have heard that with an unlocked bootloader there is no additional steps needed (such as rock/pwn mymoto etc). Can anyone confirm that this is true?
Also does the same apply with KitKat? Am I simply able to root by installing supersu since my bootloader is unlocked?
Thank you and appreciate the help.
asuhoops8628 said:
Hey uys, first off if this is a dupe, my bad. I did a bit of searching and couldnt find a topic that addressed this question specifically for the droid maxx DE.
I have my DE on 4.2.2, never took any updates. I have since unlocked the bootloader, and am rooted.
I wanted to know if rooting this phone with bootloader unlocked was as simple as installing supersu or superuser from the play store? I have heard that with an unlocked bootloader there is no additional steps needed (such as rock/pwn mymoto etc). Can anyone confirm that this is true?
Also does the same apply with KitKat? Am I simply able to root by installing supersu since my bootloader is unlocked?
Thank you and appreciate the help.
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It IS simple but not as simple as that. After you unlock you need to flash TWRP, after that in the bootloader menu boot recovery then reboot from recovery and it will ask if you want to install Su, swype to to that and then you're rooted. The same method applies to KitKat.
BladeRunner said:
It IS simple but not as simple as that. After you unlock you need to flash TWRP, after that in the bootloader menu boot recovery then reboot from recovery and it will ask if you want to install Su, swype to to that and then you're rooted. The same method applies to KitKat.
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I take it same applies if using cwm or other recovery
asuhoops8628 said:
I take it same applies if using cwm or other recovery
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in theory, yes. I've had an issue with getting root to stick using CWM touch. If you use a recovery other than TWRP and it doesn't work you can always root using TWRP then flash your recovery of choice after.
What is correct CWM recovery for xt1080 ?
I am looking here:
http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager
and here:
http://goo.im/devs/cm
I dont see any of xt1080, or Droid Ultra/Maxx/Mini.
I have a Dev Ed xt1080
On philz site:
http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition
there is only "moto_msm8960" and no "moto_msm8960dt".
Help
the msm_8960dt is the one you need as i am using the same thing since i have the dev edition also
happysteve11c said:
the msm_8960dt is the one you need as i am using the same thing since i have the dev edition also
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Thank you for your reply. I know the "dt" version ROM is for this phone, but that isn't the question.
My question is: What is the correct CWM recovery for this phone? Where do I find it?
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543400
http://skrilax.droid-developers.org/xt1080/open_recovery_209_25_11_2013.img
asuhoops8628 said:
Hey uys, first off if this is a dupe, my bad. I did a bit of searching and couldnt find a topic that addressed this question specifically for the droid maxx DE.
I have my DE on 4.2.2, never took any updates. I have since unlocked the bootloader, and am rooted.
I wanted to know if rooting this phone with bootloader unlocked was as simple as installing supersu or superuser from the play store? I have heard that with an unlocked bootloader there is no additional steps needed (such as rock/pwn mymoto etc). Can anyone confirm that this is true?
Also does the same apply with KitKat? Am I simply able to root by installing supersu since my bootloader is unlocked?
Thank you and appreciate the help.
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its pretty easy. see my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645122
install TWRP and thats all.

[Q] trouble unlocking bootloader i535

I just bought my white I535 from ebay and i rooted it and im trying to unlock the bootloader so I can install custom recovery and install custom rom.
I tried the unlock app and it wont work, used flashify to install twrp and got a brick then used odin to bring back. Is there a way to unlock bootloader and do all that to mine? If my version is to blame is there a way to downgrade?
phlebguy said:
I just bought my white I535 from ebay and i rooted it and im trying to unlock the bootloader so I can install custom recovery and install custom rom.
I tried the unlock app and it wont work, used flashify to install twrp and got a brick then used odin to bring back. Is there a way to unlock bootloader and do all that to mine? If my version is to blame is there a way to downgrade?
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You cannot unlock the bootloader on any system version greater than 4.1.2 as of now. Unless you use this fifty dollar bootloader downgrade service
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phlebguy said:
I just bought my white I535 from ebay and i rooted it and im trying to unlock the bootloader so I can install custom recovery and install custom rom.
I tried the unlock app and it wont work, used flashify to install twrp and got a brick then used odin to bring back. Is there a way to unlock bootloader and do all that to mine? If my version is to blame is there a way to downgrade?
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poppers162 said:
You cannot unlock the bootloader on any system version greater than 4.1.2 as of now. Unless you use this fifty dollar bootloader downgrade service
Sent from my SCH-I535 using XDA Free mobile app
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Poppers hit the nail on the head there. It's a JTAG service which does indeed cost money and you'd have to send your phone in which takes a few weeks or more
From my CM11 S3
Is there any way to downgrade or just install custom OS with unlocking bootloader?
phlebguy said:
Is there any way to downgrade or just install custom OS with unlocking bootloader?
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Nope. The only way is to unlock the bootloader and root it. Otherwise your out of luck

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