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LG china confirms: GB for 3D&OB delay again until the end of this year

http://www.lg.com/cn/support/data/notice/cnntc111118000301.jsp
LG would like to express its sincere thanks to all of the Optimus Series owners who have been waiting patiently for the Android 2.3 Gingerbread upgrade. We are excited by the high level of product interest that LG Optimus Series owners have shown, and we are taking all possible measures to offer a smooth OS upgrade in a timely manner.
The [Number of models] premium smartphones of the Optimus Series, [Optimus Black and
Optimus 3D] will be upgraded in our market as outlined below.
LG Optimus Black and 3D: the end of December 2011
Again, LG greatly appreciates the support and feedback that customers have given during the upgrade delay, and we will do our utmost to continually provide better service in the future.
Thank you very much.

Not good LG,its very bad...

They said "in our market", it means in China. That mean it does not conflict with the official press release which said that the update will be rolled out for Europe open models in the week of 21st followed by other markets and carriers until the end of the year. So, if we get the kzd file for open models this week, no need to wait for other carriers.

exe127 said:
http://www.lg.com/cn/support/data/notice/cnntc111118000301.jsp
LG would like to express its sincere thanks to all of the Optimus Series owners who have been waiting patiently for the Android 2.3 Gingerbread upgrade. We are excited by the high level of product interest that LG Optimus Series owners have shown, and we are taking all possible measures to offer a smooth OS upgrade in a timely manner.
The [Number of models] premium smartphones of the Optimus Series, [Optimus Black and
Optimus 3D] will be upgraded in our market as outlined below.
LG Optimus Black and 3D: the end of December 2011
Again, LG greatly appreciates the support and feedback that customers have given during the upgrade delay, and we will do our utmost to continually provide better service in the future.
Thank you very much.
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Chinese phones may but we haven't got chinese phones...

abo_mara7 said:
They said "in our market", so it does not conflict with the official press release which said that the update will be rolled out for Europe open models in the week of 21st followed by other markets and carriers until the end of the year. So, if we get the kzd file for open models this week, no need to wait for other carriers.
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Would a simple step KDZ update process, update the baseband as well?

exceleth said:
Would a simple step KDZ update process, update the baseband as well?
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yes

exceleth said:
Would a simple step KDZ update process, update the baseband as well?
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Sure, this baseband installation just in the leaked ROM, kdz file will have baseband + Original Recovery(Evrything will et back to stock).

Perfect, thats what I wanted to hear

Its all right being optimistic and speculating but I think LG have been purposefully vague.
I do hope they are only referring to the Chinese/Asian market but if the update was ready then why wasn't it released some time yesterday?
Hope I'm wrong though...

very frustration
LG very badly............................

Speak with lg germany:
LG Electronics Deutschland Hallo xxx,
wie du richtig angemerkt hast, ist die Meldung von LG China und hat aus diesem Grund mit Europa und insbesondere Deutschland nichts zu tun
in english:
LG Electronics Germany:
"Hello xxx,as you correctly noted, is the message from LG China, and for this reason that has nothing to do with Europe and especially Germany."
So for Europe the week from 21.11 is the current date for the update to 2.3

Ice Cream Sandwich for HTC Sensation PROPABLY at end of Feb.

Hello people!
I want to share my news with you. There was many threads about release date of Ice Cream Sandwich in last time. Because I am journalist, and also IT-tech in my newspaper - I asked official Polish HTC help desk about release date. They answered me very quickly (2mins).
Here is what I received:
Witaj xxx!
Dziękuję za pytanie odnośnie Ice Cream Sanwich dla modelu Sensation.
Jeżeli informacje zostaną oficjalnie potwierdzone, model ten przejdzie testy pozytywnie, prawdopodobnie Ice Cream Sandwich pojawi się pod koniec lutego.
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and this can be translated like this:
Hello xxx!
Thank you for question about Ice Cream Sandwich for Sensation.
If informations will be officialy confirmed, and this model will pass all tests positive - propably Ice Cream Sandwich will be released at the end of February.
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I hope that u understand my poor english. To confirm what I'am talking about - screen from inbox.

still doesn't prove a thing..we have people saying within 10 days..on feb..on march we should just stop guessing the day and wait when they release it before all of us go crazy on here

What is so special about HTC's stock roms. Why does everyone like sense???
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

wowwww your name is xxx???????
on topic:
based on how smooth the leaks are, im pretty sure the official release is very close...but who cares if we got the leaks to play with??
id like if it wasnt released tho, every week we have a new leak to play with and each is smoother than the other! we wont have that excitement once its released lol

Euler MD said:
What is so special about HTC's stock roms. Why does everyone like sense???
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
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everyone doesnt, but everyone likes different things in life.......

My name isn't "xxx", but for security I changed this. As u can see at the end of e-mail, these informations (and any other from HTC) are confidental. Just in case... u know.
Still doesn't proof a thing - maybe u r right, but this information is from Official HTC Polish Support. Maybe you should ask your-region support too, to believe?

Euler MD said:
What is so special about HTC's stock roms. Why does everyone like sense???
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
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The special thing about it is once it's released the source code should be released which woudl give the devs the base for AOSP

Yet another topic with unfounded speculations on the ICS releasedate. Can't we just stop these useless discussions and just wait for it?

Sorry man, i just wanted to share this info with all of you. I know that everyone is waiting - I'm waiting too, and for me this is great news

I'm happy to read your shared info, anything that's presented for the right reasons in OK by me

casper200519 said:
The special thing about it is once it's released the source code should be released which woudl give the devs the base for AOSP
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That's funny... The developers here never made perfect pure AOSP from GingerBread source... You expect wonders from ICS source?

hexen88 said:
Sorry man, i just wanted to share this info with all of you. I know that everyone is waiting - I'm waiting too, and for me this is great news
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No worries. This is the whole purpose of a general sensation forum; so.that users can discuss any topic about the sensation. People can chose not to read or participate in the discussion.
I myself am happy with the current leak, so while I am hopeful that your information is correct, I won't be upset or disappointed if it is not.

Hmmm..The end of February for Poland , and most likely it is not the first Country/Region to receive the FOTA ,i think ICS update is getting so close .

not so fast there...
Euler MD said:
What is so special about HTC's stock roms. Why does everyone like sense???
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
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trust me, everyone does not like it. it is a resource hog and you can not customize the size of widgets which sucks. i use launcher pro. however, people who like htc do buy their phones because of the way sense is integrated with android. to each his own.

Thanks
Thanks for sharing the info, hope you're right.

jjdoctor said:
That's funny... The developers here never made perfect pure AOSP from GingerBread source... You expect wonders from ICS source?
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Euler MD said:
What is so special about HTC's stock roms. Why does everyone like sense???
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
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Sense UI is what distinguishes HTC androids from other androids. If one doesnt like the Sense UI why buy an HTC phone? Buy a Samsung, SE, Motorola etc!

As a long time n1 user in addition to the senny, I will say that it will get here when it gets here.

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Yet another topic with unfounded speculations on the ICS releasedate. Can't we just stop these useless discussions and just wait for it?
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Chill out.
Sent from my Acer Iconia A500 using Tapatalk

I don't believe that information, but I have nothing against to be positively surprised by HTC Hope that Mike1986 or Steve0007 will be able to make even better ROMs then.

HTC One S C2 is forgotten by HTC itself!!!

Those f*****g f*****s at HTC must have forgotten that they have released HTC One S with S3 processor, cause those assholes, haven't released a single OTA update for this phone, no Sens 4.1 one for us (not that I care about sens, but some might!), no 4.0.4 android for. I guess they don't mind having their phone in a customer hands with known vulnerabilities. And when you write to them they just act like the update is already out, and just try to convince you that you are probably to stupid to know how to use an update settings, or you live in to big of a **** hole for updates to find you. If somebody knows where and how to make a petition where we could show HTC how many unsatisfied costumers it have, I would glady to sign it, and rubb it into ther face. It is really not fare that such good phone has such bad support. And I don't want to buy a f**** flagship phone with gigantic screen just to have my phone supported by the manufacturer.
That would be all,
Have a nice day everybod,
and to be-loving HTC, F*** YOU and your s***ty update policy!
P.S.: I hope I won't get banned for bad language, but it is hard to express my rage against HTC differently

I spoked with an inginer from HTC and he said that we will receive android 4.1.
I asked him exacly when ... but he could not tell me...
I can post the whole conversation.

stylus1828 said:
I spoked with an inginer from HTC and he said that we will receive android 4.1.
I asked him exacly when ... but he could not tell me...
I can post the whole conversation.
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Gesendet von meinem HTC One S mit Tapatalk 2

I had this conversation yesterday
Chat Transcript
Please wait until an agent is available to assist ...
You have been connected to Romeo.
Customer: Hey Romeo
Romeo: Hello.
Customer: can you please tell me if any update is coming for HTC One S with s3 proccesor?
Romeo: Update to 4.0.4 does not come because since November will be released Jelly Bean.
Client: I understand
Client: S3 phones will be updated concurrently with those S4?
Client: or those with S3 must wait longer for in order to receive this update?
Romeo: Usually updates come depending on the country for which it was manufactured phone.
Romeo: But considering that this phone updates come in a different way can not yet confirm which of these models will receive the update first.
Romeo: I will try to keep you up to date on the ----- about this update.
Client :
Customer: Thank you for. information
Customer: ok
Client: a good day at work
Client: only better
Romeo:
Romeo: Thank you too.

I really hope they will release JB for this phone, but until I don't see I won't believe it. As I have written some other users have been asking HTC for Android 4.0.4 and Sens 4.1, and they said that update is already out, but there was no update for this phone. And just for a thought, when (if) we recevie this JB update this year, the new Android version will probably be already out (4.2 Lemon pie), cause LG Nexus 4 is announced by the and of november.

I will sell this junk and get a pure google phone. FU HTC!

stylus1828 said:
I will sell this junk and get a pure google phone. FU HTC!
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That is exactly what I am thinking, it just bothers me a little that I must buy such an expensive and big phone (for me ideal phone is with 4.0 or 4.3 inch screen), just to have good support from a manufacturer or Google.

Yeah... that's a problem for me too but I will get used to it.
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I've just got a call from a HTC employe regarding my bad review about HTC.
I completed a review form for HTC and told them that I'm very dissapointed.
She asked me why I'm so dissapointed and I told her about the problems that I had with HTC Sensation (dust problems and boot problems) and that now I'm dissapointed with HTC One S S3 a.k.a C2 because of the lack of support and ota updates.
I told her about the lack of updates and that HOS S4 users already got several updates. I even told her that we can't get custom roms for our devices because devs are not interested in this device and they don't have the stuff that they need in order to provide such roms.
She told me that she will forward my complains and they will do something about this problem.
I think that we need to do more bad reviews to make them do something!

stylus1828 said:
Yeah... that's a problem for me too but I will get used to it.
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I've just got a call from a HTC employe regarding my bad review about HTC.
I completed a review form for HTC and told them that I'm very dissapointed.
She asked me why I'm so dissapointed and I told her about the problems that I had with HTC Sensation (dust problems and boot problems) and that now I'm dissapointed with HTC One S S3 a.k.a C2 because of the lack of support and ota updates.
I told her about the lack of updates and that HOS S4 users already got several updates. I even told her that we can't get custom roms for our devices because devs are not interested in this device and they don't have the stuff that they need in order to provide such roms.
She told me that she will forward my complains and they will do something about this problem.
I think that we need to do more bad reviews to make them do something!
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Where did you post the review?

When I had problems with HTC Sensation they sent me a review form on my e-mail account.
I believe that you will receive one too if you contact customer support online.

So... only 9 replies... are the rest of you guys happy with your HTC One S Ville C2 and the support that HTC is providing?

Nope... not happy... it's just that whatever we do, HTC doesn't care about the "little people". They pulled a stunt, and in the short run, it worked.
I don't know how long it's going to last, because i think i'm not the only one who won't buy another HTC phone again.
That being said, I am very disappointed since i found that there are two versions of the One S - especially that i have the inferior one with limited support and development possibilities.
Long story, short: F U HTC !!!

I am very upset too.
I am really happy that we have awesome Devs who port their Roms on our S3 so wen can at least care about the updates on our own!
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app

For me that was also my first and last HTC for sure. I worked during my whole summer vacation to get this phone and now I'm not satisfied with it. Should have gone with the SGS3 or tge Galaxy Nexus. I've already contacted HTC and they said that there will be update support because otherwise they would have announced that there will be no updates in the future. Somehow I can't believe this statement.
Sent from my HTC One S using Trickdroid v3.0.0
There is hope guys:
Support: Vielen Dank (Me), dass Sie HTC kontaktiert haben. Ihre Anfrage wird geprueft.
Me: Vielen Dank
Support: Das Update vom HTC One S soll in diesen Tagen ausgerollt werden. Bis alle Geräte erreicht sind, dauert es ca 45 Tage
Me: Welches Android wäre das dann?
Support: entschuldigen sie bitte. Das ist das Jelly bean Update
Me: Okey. Sind Sie sicher, dass dieses Update auch für das One S villec2 (mit Snapdragon S3) kommt? Weil ich habe bisher nur gelesen, dass das Jelly Bean Update für das normale Ville kommt, ohne das das VilleC2 erwähnt wurde.
Support: Doch, da wird keine ausnahme gemacht. Unsere offizielle Information macht da keine Unterschiede.
Me: Okey, vielen Dank für die Auskunft.
English:
Support: Thank you for contacting HTC. We are checking your request.
Me: Thank you
Support: The update for the One S will be coming in the next days. It will take about 45 days until every device is reached.
Me: Which Android is it going to be?
Support: excuse me. This will be the Jelly bean pdate
Me: Okey. Are you sure that this update will be coming for the One S villec2 (with Snapdragon S3)? Because I've only read news saying that the Jelly Bean update is coming for the Ville. The VilleC2 was nerver mentioned in those news.
Support: We don't make exceptions. The official information doesn't make any differences.
Me: Okey, thank you for your help.
I hope I can rely on this information.

I am not happy with the lack of updates. I am in the queue to speak to HTC and will post my chat log here when complete.

I have to say i'm disapointed in the uptadate olicy for one s c2 too...the 3 dot menu black bar is really annoying on android 4.0.3, sense 4.0....
Although i cant say im experiencing lags with s3 processor...but i havent't tried the s4 processor...
Also, here in croatia (ex yugoslavia), there are no htc one s with s4...
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium

Everyone should contact htc online or by e-mail and tell them that you are dissapointed. I believe that contacting them online via chat, they definiotely do something about this problem.
@th3ant waiting for your chat transcript!
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.TanTien said:
For me that was also my first and last HTC for sure. I worked during my whole summer vacation to get this phone and now I'm not satisfied with it. Should have gone with the SGS3 or tge Galaxy Nexus. I've already contacted HTC and they said that there will be update support because otherwise they would have announced that there will be no updates in the future. Somehow I can't believe this statement.
Sent from my HTC One S using Trickdroid v3.0.0
There is hope guys:
Support: Vielen Dank (Me), dass Sie HTC kontaktiert haben. Ihre Anfrage wird geprueft.
Me: Vielen Dank
Support: Das Update vom HTC One S soll in diesen Tagen ausgerollt werden. Bis alle Geräte erreicht sind, dauert es ca 45 Tage
Me: Welches Android wäre das dann?
Support: entschuldigen sie bitte. Das ist das Jelly bean Update
Me: Okey. Sind Sie sicher, dass dieses Update auch für das One S villec2 (mit Snapdragon S3) kommt? Weil ich habe bisher nur gelesen, dass das Jelly Bean Update für das normale Ville kommt, ohne das das VilleC2 erwähnt wurde.
Support: Doch, da wird keine ausnahme gemacht. Unsere offizielle Information macht da keine Unterschiede.
Me: Okey, vielen Dank für die Auskunft.
English:
Support: Thank you for contacting HTC. We are checking your request.
Me: Thank you
Support: The update for the One S will be coming in the next days. It will take about 45 days until every device is reached.
Me: Which Android is it going to be?
Support: excuse me. This will be the Jelly bean pdate
Me: Okey. Are you sure that this update will be coming for the One S villec2 (with Snapdragon S3)? Because I've only read news saying that the Jelly Bean update is coming for the Ville. The VilleC2 was nerver mentioned in those news.
Support: We don't make exceptions. The official information doesn't make any differences.
Me: Okey, thank you for your help.
I hope I can rely on this information.
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Yeah right ... "Support: We don't make exceptions. The official information doesn't make any differences." excuse me but this is bull****!
Thanks for the chat transcript!

Well all hell went down as my browser crashed when I finished the chat, and I have not received the transcript via email (still waiting though).
I do however remember the gist of it, just not word for word, so please do excuse me for this :/
They stated that the 4.0.4 update has already been released to automatic update servers. Depending on whether your phone is locked or branded with a certain network, times may vary. They did not mention anything about it varying from S4 to S3 models. The help representative also showed me how to check for update manually (Settings -> About Phone -> Software Updates -> Check Now) but of course this returned nothing. I did persist for a bit about the 4.0.4 update, but they started to get a bit annoyed so I decided to move on.
I then inquired about the 4.1 Jelly Bean update, but only got what looked like a copy/pasted response. I said that they have confirmed that the HTC One X, One XL and One S will be receiving the update. Seeing as I don't think other users have got this I did not persist with asking why.
To finish off I mentioned that all users I have seen on Android Development forums with S3 models have not been receiving the updates. Initially he stated that this was because they may be on branded/different networks or access different automatic update servers, However I replied with there are cases of people on the same network not getting the update due to having a different model. I then suggested he should take what I said and pass it on to a member with higher position in the company, but he returned by saying it was third party evidence which can not be accredited for accuracy.
At this point he seemed quite annoyed with me and I chose to leave before anything happened or he started to not answer my questions properly. Once again sorry for the lack of log, but if you believe me (this is the truth honest ) I appreciate it.
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"he seemed quite annoyed with me"??? WHAT??? He is there because is his job to give you answers to all your questions!!! ****ing ***hole!

stylus1828 said:
"he seemed quite annoyed with me"??? WHAT??? He is there because is his job to give you answers to all your questions!!! ****ing ***hole!
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Well I was being rather persistent I'd let them off this time

HTC One S (Ville) is going to get 4.2.2 and Sense 5 after all?! and yes 4.3 too!

Just to make sure about the communication from HTC Europe on Facebook:
ME
What is this with the HTC One S not getting an update to 4.2? Did HTC go mad? I got my phone about twelve months. It has been out since end of April 2012, so you still have some months to go before Google stops 'supporting' the phone. The phone is still among one of the better ones and can run ANY firmware currently around (hence the many custom roms already on 4.2 even for HTC One, S, X, etc).
Please explain why you do (again) fail effort for your customers? I was heavily disappointed by the HTC One, which has a nice Sense 5, but nothing more. The camera sucks big time, as the pictures in all normal situations are sub-par on any other phone. Yes, they are. Take it from a Photographer. So there is no new HTC phone worth replacing the HTC One S, meaning you are killing your own market with this: 'We don't want to make it better, we want to make quick bucks.' Seriously?!
Vind ik leuk · · 4 juli om 13:53
HTC ЕUROPE Sorry for that, please use this contact form http://www.htc.com/in/contact/email/ to tell this. But i a afraid this phone HTC ONE S is not supported anymore. Sorry for that!
Contact Us
www.htc.com
The Americas - HTC Media Relations+1 425 638 [email protected]a – HTC [email protected]A - Nelson Bostock+44 (0) 20 7229 [email protected]
9 juli om 19:05 · Vind ik leuk
ME That is exactly what I mean. Why do many people still choose for an iPhone? Because Apple keeps supporting their phone. Don't come with: 'but we don't make the software'. Partially you do. However the part that is not yours STILL SUPPORTS THE PHONE! Also you could just explain that the court cases have caused you to stop developing for the hardware that is not allowed.
Just so you know: In Europe you are expected (by law) to support hardware for a acceptable period. Basically for IT systems and Electronics that is between the 3 to 5 years (check Microsoft and other vendors for this.
10 juli om 15:02 · Vind ik leuk
HTC ЕUROPE Thanks we will keep that in mind
11 juli om 1:02 · Vind ik niet meer leuk · 1
ME HTC ЕUROPE that is saying as much: 'talk to the hand baby'. Well, in that case: I'll go for a Nexus4. Thanks for the last push. Really should work on your 'customer'/'consumer'-skills. Oh wait, we are no customers...we are just buyers!
12 juli om 11:50 · Vind ik leuk
HTC ЕUROPE Hi, Mark you dont like our costumer service ? Thank you for your feedback, we will give our best to make this service better. Thank you , enjoy the weekend!
12 juli om 20:31 · Vind ik leuk
HTC ЕUROPE Hi, Mark de Haan we have great news for you. If you still use your HTC ONE S it will get update soon. Android 4.2.2 and Sense 5. Thank you !
17 juli om 15:28 · Vind ik niet meer leuk · 1
ME HTC ЕUROPE, if this is a serious and correct claim, I am very happy, as I was almost going to root my phone, to install a custom rom...now I read there are even ones that go to 4.3...I will wait for a little bit longer.
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HTC ЕUROPE Have a nice day! ) 4.3 soon will get just Google Nexus, all other devices will get that after 4-5 months. Please keep on eye our site www.htc.com
HTC - Homepage
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HTC is the creator of many award-winning mobile devices and industry firsts. HTC...
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maddehaan said:
Just to make sure about the communication from HTC Europe on Facebook:
ME
What is this with the HTC One S not getting an update to 4.2? Did HTC go mad? I got my phone about twelve months. It has been out since end of April 2012, so you still have some months to go before Google stops 'supporting' the phone. The phone is still among one of the better ones and can run ANY firmware currently around (hence the many custom roms already on 4.2 even for HTC One, S, X, etc).
Please explain why you do (again) fail effort for your customers? I was heavily disappointed by the HTC One, which has a nice Sense 5, but nothing more. The camera sucks big time, as the pictures in all normal situations are sub-par on any other phone. Yes, they are. Take it from a Photographer. So there is no new HTC phone worth replacing the HTC One S, meaning you are killing your own market with this: 'We don't want to make it better, we want to make quick bucks.' Seriously?!
Vind ik leuk · · 4 juli om 13:53
HTC ЕUROPE Sorry for that, please use this contact form http://www.htc.com/in/contact/email/ to tell this. But i a afraid this phone HTC ONE S is not supported anymore. Sorry for that!
Contact Us
www.htc.com
The Americas - HTC Media Relations+1 425 638 [email protected]a – HTC [email protected]A - Nelson Bostock+44 (0) 20 7229 [email protected]
9 juli om 19:05 · Vind ik leuk
ME That is exactly what I mean. Why do many people still choose for an iPhone? Because Apple keeps supporting their phone. Don't come with: 'but we don't make the software'. Partially you do. However the part that is not yours STILL SUPPORTS THE PHONE! Also you could just explain that the court cases have caused you to stop developing for the hardware that is not allowed.
Just so you know: In Europe you are expected (by law) to support hardware for a acceptable period. Basically for IT systems and Electronics that is between the 3 to 5 years (check Microsoft and other vendors for this.
10 juli om 15:02 · Vind ik leuk
HTC ЕUROPE Thanks we will keep that in mind
11 juli om 1:02 · Vind ik niet meer leuk · 1
ME HTC ЕUROPE that is saying as much: 'talk to the hand baby'. Well, in that case: I'll go for a Nexus4. Thanks for the last push. Really should work on your 'customer'/'consumer'-skills. Oh wait, we are no customers...we are just buyers!
12 juli om 11:50 · Vind ik leuk
HTC ЕUROPE Hi, Mark you dont like our costumer service ? Thank you for your feedback, we will give our best to make this service better. Thank you , enjoy the weekend!
12 juli om 20:31 · Vind ik leuk
HTC ЕUROPE Hi, Mark de Haan we have great news for you. If you still use your HTC ONE S it will get update soon. Android 4.2.2 and Sense 5. Thank you !
17 juli om 15:28 · Vind ik niet meer leuk · 1
ME HTC ЕUROPE, if this is a serious and correct claim, I am very happy, as I was almost going to root my phone, to install a custom rom...now I read there are even ones that go to 4.3...I will wait for a little bit longer.
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HTC ЕUROPE Have a nice day! ) 4.3 soon will get just Google Nexus, all other devices will get that after 4-5 months. Please keep on eye our site www.htc.com
HTC - Homepage
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I Doubt for 4.3 but 4.2 will come.

soon, I wish I would have had that word trademarked. So many companies use it these days.

maddehaan said:
Just to make sure about the communication from HTC Europe on Facebook:
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HTC - Homepage
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Lol, that was a critical standoff. Kudos
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

I reckon he said that to shut you up.
Also, please don't quote the entire original post. Completely clogs the thread up.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

kylepont said:
I reckon he said that to shut you up.
Also, please don't quote the entire original post. Completely clogs the thread up.
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Strange though it would take 5 days to shut him up? the reply was not until the 17th when the original message was sent on the 12th.

We need a official statement from htc, not a facebook comment, and they didn't announced anything lately.

there is nothing official from HTC regarding the update for Ville & Ville C2

The last thing a company wants is a customer repeatedly whining to them over the same issue, even though they keep going back and forth over it. Best thing to do is leave and go to Samsung. Yes, TouchWiz is disgusting, but you will get OFFICIAL support for years.
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kylepont said:
The last thing a company wants is a customer repeatedly whining to them over the same issue, even though they keep going back and forth over it. Best thing to do is leave and go to Samsung. Yes, TouchWiz is disgusting, but you will get OFFICIAL support for years.
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Lately, these closed-sourced drivers are being pain-in-the-*** honestly. I think Samsung, after HTC, have also started this policy. Custom ROMs would ultimately be having some shortcomings. (?)
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HTC have always been closed-source with Sense, haven't they? They were since the Wildfire, at least. It's because their linux OS works differently to the way that the normal AOSP linux OS works, so they're allowed to close-source it.
Eh, whatever, I'm getting a Galaxy S4 on Friday and then I'm not looking back. I'll just buy an aluminum-feeling back cover for it and then I have an improved One S made by a company that I know will give out support for a long time.
And for custom ROMs having shortcomings, take my CharmanDroid Sense 5 as an example. Bluetooth, Wi-Fi tether and FM radio don't work. These are all hardware related, so I see the problem, but we've based this from the Desire 600, which has the same Bluetooth, Wi-Fi antenna and antenna headphones built-in. So what is the problem?
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Samsung aren't any better "overall" at all:
http://readwrite.com/2011/01/14/dat...s-delay-android-updates#awesm=~obe72mm7q0cKM7
http://www.techhive.com/article/256...es_do_the_best_job_with_android_updates_.html
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/the-checkered-slow-history-of-android-handset-updates/
They only support their flagship devices properly, any other phone is pretty much dead on arrival.
HTC imo have the best support overall, they don't release as buggy updates, support a range of phones and bring the updates roughly at the same time across a range.
Their big problem is the way they decide to do stupid things like leaving out key devices i.e. desire hd, sensation etc. (one s is supposedly getting sense V5 now, believe it when I see people actually getting an OTA though........)
Supposedly the GS 2 isn't getting 4.2.2 either now due to optimisation problems (funny as supposedly the GS 2 plus is still getting the update yet iirc the hardware is worse.......), so it will probably be the same for the note I as well.
Samsung were quicker last year with the 4.1 update, however, HTC weren't much longer, iirc about 1-2 months later, however, they brought the update, not just to 1 device but 3 devices. I will be surprised if they can provide a bug free/well optimised update quicker than HTC again this year due to all the GS 4 phones they have released (and they have the note III coming out soon too) and plus touchwiz being even more bloated/feature rich and further away from stock where as HTC so far only has a few phones and their skin is pretty light now.

maddehaan said:
Just to make sure about the communication from HTC Europe on Facebo....
HTC ЕUROPE Sorry for that, please use this contact form http://www.htc.com/in/contact/email/ to tell this. But i a afraid this phone HTC ONE S is not supported anymore. Sorry for that!
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It all read like bot reply...... You might just failed big time too lol
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Something official, that is just FB spam

Terminator19 said:
Samsung aren't any better "overall" at all:
http://readwrite.com/2011/01/14/dat...s-delay-android-updates#awesm=~obe72mm7q0cKM7
http://www.techhive.com/article/256...es_do_the_best_job_with_android_updates_.html
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/the-checkered-slow-history-of-android-handset-updates/
They only support their flagship devices properly, any other phone is pretty much dead on arrival.
HTC imo have the best support overall, they don't release as buggy updates, support a range of phones and bring the updates roughly at the same time across a range.
Their big problem is the way they decide to do stupid things like leaving out key devices i.e. desire hd, sensation etc. (one s is supposedly getting sense V5 now, believe it when I see people actually getting an OTA though........)
Supposedly the GS 2 isn't getting 4.2.2 either now due to optimisation problems (funny as supposedly the GS 2 plus is still getting the update yet iirc the hardware is worse.......), so it will probably be the same for the note I as well.
Samsung were quicker last year with the 4.1 update, however, HTC weren't much longer, iirc about 1-2 months later, however, they brought the update, not just to 1 device but 3 devices. I will be surprised if they can provide a bug free/well optimised update quicker than HTC again this year due to all the GS 4 phones they have released (and they have the note III coming out soon too) and plus touchwiz being even more bloated/feature rich and further away from stock where as HTC so far only has a few phones and their skin is pretty light now.
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All of those are well over a year old. The game has far changed since then. Sony have actually started giving out updates, HTC have dropped devices that could still cope (Desire HD, Desire X, One S(?)) in an attempt to save money, which is shown by the loss that they have made this quarter, and Samsung are supporting lesser phones further, not just flagship phones. Not to mention none of those charts mentioned the worldwide (expect 'Murica) version of the Galaxy S II, which shipped with Gingerbread and is going to get Jelly Bean v2. Three major updates for a non-nexus phone. Even if it doesn't get that, it's still beached on the same version as us despite being a year older and having a year's worse CPU, GPU etc. That kind of says it all, really.
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Fact is, most mobile contracts and legal warrantys run for 2 years so I think it would be just fair to pass laws forcing companies to provide atleast these 2 years of software support.
But these days its all about releasing a new phone every half year and forget about the previous generations...
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kylepont said:
All of those are well over a year old. The game has far changed since then. Sony have actually started giving out updates, HTC have dropped devices that could still cope (Desire HD, Desire X, One S(?)) in an attempt to save money, which is shown by the loss that they have made this quarter, and Samsung are supporting lesser phones further, not just flagship phones. Not to mention none of those charts mentioned the worldwide (expect 'Murica) version of the Galaxy S II, which shipped with Gingerbread and is going to get Jelly Bean v2. Three major updates for a non-nexus phone. Even if it doesn't get that, it's still beached on the same version as us despite being a year older and having a year's worse CPU, GPU etc. That kind of says it all, really.
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They still have relevance though and plus this one is pretty new as it has the one x, gs 3 etc.
Yes it could very well change at any time, shouldn't be much longer till we find out which devices are getting 4.2.2 and 4.3.
Well in the UK, sony are still as slow as anything, only a month or so did the XZ get the update and the funny thing is, the unbranded sim free owners are still waiting for the 4.2.2 update.
The main reason they don't provide updates is because they want people to buy their new phones instead, just a marketing tactic that might work in the short term but won't do them any favours in the long run.
As I said regarding the GS 2 and 4.2.2:
Supposedly the GS 2 isn't getting 4.2.2 either now due to optimisation problems (funny as supposedly the GS 2 plus is still getting the update yet iirc the hardware is worse.......), so it will probably be the same for the note I as well.
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http://www.sammobile.com/2013/07/30...ate-due-to-adjustment-problems-with-touchwiz/
Not much of an issue as it has received two big updates but either way if it is true then I would still be pissed for these reasons:
- galaxy s2 plus is getting it with worse hardware
- the phone was and still is extremely popular unlike our one S, which stop being sold here in the UK, not just in shops but online too like 4-5 months ago......
- it is one of the main reasons why Samsung are where they are today in the smartphone market and so they should provide the update as a thank you to the customers who made that device as successful as it is and in the long run is a big reason why Samsung are dominating the android market.
Well we don't know for sure yet what is happening with the one s, but the guy who leaked that info. has a reputation of being right about htc devices and he was the first to say that the s wouldn't get the update. Yes it will suck if we don't get the 4.2.2 update and I will hate HTC but to say that one company is better than another just because they don't/haven't updated a few devices is just not correct when shown via a number of sites (and many more out there), at least for the time being. They might be better for their "flagship" phones but when it comes to their whole range overall, that is where HTC are the best.
I doubt there will be much difference between USA and the rest of the world when dealing with unbranded/sim free devices except for the time at which updates come out.
What other phones aside from flagship devices are Samsung supporting? Specifically 4.2+ updates?
At the end of the day, you can only expect at least 1 big official android update for non nexus devices, at best 2, any more and you're pushing your luck then. The nexus devices aren't exactly free of this problem either:
nexus one came with 2.1 - got 2.2 and 2.3
nexus s came with 2.3 - got 4.0 and 4.1
galaxy nexus came with 4.0 - got 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3
No reason why the nexus one couldn't have got ICS and especially the nexus s and the 4.2 update.
So I suspect that KLP will be the last update for the GN.

Asked HTC Germaby for Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5 and got this answer
Hallo Filip Brzezik,
thanks again for contact us.
I get the information that the manufacturer of the processor decided that the compatibility is not stable to use that for a long time.
Thats not a decision from htc.
If you really want to have the version 4.2.2 you have to check out htc.dev website.
I think thats the only way for you to get the software. I allready infomed you about the risks what happenes when you root your device.
With the Version 4.1.2 you will have htc sense 5 and Blinkfeed also on the device. So my question is now why do you want to have the version of 4.2.2 ?
I hope this informations will help to answer your questions.
King Regards
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Obvious phones getting 4.2+ will be GS3, N2, N1 a possibility and GS2 maybe as well. It's hard to think because so little Samsung phones come to the UK, compared to the hundreds of variants you get on the different US carriers. HTC getting 4.2+ will be One X, One X+ and One. Can't see the One S getting above 4.1. Sony getting 4.2+ will probably only be the Z and SP. LG and Motorola aren't even worth noting.
Also, EQS in 4.2! We want that!
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so ask when will be 4.1.2 with sense 5?

Meanwhile... Nougat only at the end of February in Europe!!!

Moto Germany just confirmed here
https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/823454345928863745
"Leider verschiebt sich das Android 7 Update für die Moto G Familie bis Ende Februar. Wir bitten um noch ein Bisschen Geduld"
How retarded can Moto be?!?! [emoji35]
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In Brazil some users are receiving NPJ25.93-14 via OTA
https://plus.google.com/102395746835702389757/posts/aRYLpan2Eey

Why is it taking so long when India has had it since last year? Maybe India are the beta testers? lol
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I just installed the Indian version from the zip in the Moto G4 forum. I'm planning to switch to lineage soon though
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I'm on lineage now, only concern is camera the rest work well.

onesolo said:
Moto Germany just confirmed here
https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/823454345928863745
"Leider verschiebt sich das Android 7 Update für die Moto G Familie bis Ende Februar. Wir bitten um noch ein Bisschen Geduld"
How retarded can Moto be?!?! [emoji35]
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It´s not being retarded at all. They are taking the time to test the builds and take care of found bugs to improve build quality, I actually like that a lot since the update we´ll get is much more stable by the end of February.

Niels Koomans said:
It´s not being retarded at all. They are taking the time to test the builds and take care of found bugs to improve build quality, I actually like that a lot since the update we´ll get is much more stable by the end of February.
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yes, it's being retarded, cause nougat should have been delivery to all world back in final of 2016 !!! Our phones are almost pure google phones!!! Nougat was released in August!!! Manufactures (not just Moto) had the time to test it and deploy it to their phones, specially Moto!!!
Nougat was released in India, and it's full of bugs!!! Didn't they had the time to test it?! come on...
And yes, prob they are delaying the release cause the india release was full of bugs, that's the only positive aspect of that.

You do realise that if they just release it like that, you'd still call them retarded because they release buggy, unfinished builds.
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onesolo said:
yes, it's being retarded, cause nougat should have been delivery to all world back in final of 2016 !!! Our phones are almost pure google phones!!! Nougat was released in August!!! Manufactures (not just Moto) had the time to test it and deploy it to their phones, specially Moto!!!
Nougat was released in India, and it's full of bugs!!! Didn't they had the time to test it?! come on...
And yes, prob they are delaying the release cause the india release was full of bugs, that's the only positive aspect of that.
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Actually I installed the Indian version from zip yesterday and I'm not seeing any bugs at all
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They are getting pushback from the carriers on the update. If you look on their website you'll even see that they state the updates are pending partner approval.

ironman38102 said:
You do realise that if they just release it like that, you'd still call them retarded because they release buggy, unfinished builds.
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And do you realize that I do not want a rush release, but they had more the time to had a perfect release?!?! Nougat was released on August 2016 !!!! More than time to Moto to make a decent release to G4 across the world!!!

Last security update 2016 july...
These delays happen when you sack 2000 employees and try to replace them with cheaper ones.

onesolo said:
yes, it's being retarded, cause nougat should have been delivery to all world back in final of 2016 !!! Our phones are almost pure google phones!!! Nougat was released in August!!! Manufactures (not just Moto) had the time to test it and deploy it to their phones, specially Moto!!!
Nougat was released in India, and it's full of bugs!!! Didn't they had the time to test it?! come on...
And yes, prob they are delaying the release cause the india release was full of bugs, that's the only positive aspect of that.
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You can always flash the official Lineage OS version which contains Android Nougat, that is if you want to root your phone and flash a custom recovery on it a.k.a breaking your warranty.

Niels Koomans said:
You can always flash the official Lineage OS version which contains Android Nougat, that is if you want to root your phone and flash a custom recovery on it a.k.a breaking your warranty.
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Which should i mention works great

I received the OTA today for NPJ25. 93-14. I'm in Australia but the phone defaults to German after a factory wipe. Hopefully others will start receiving them now
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I really prefer to wait for you to fix the bug that I could not presess in the 93-14 overheating, battery drainage and low fps in their animations (note that I did a factory reset and still it was fatal) so if they delay I hope they fix All that and that is a stable version for all the said sayings of this terminal

BiziOS said:
Actually I installed the Indian version from zip yesterday and I'm not seeing any bugs at all
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+1

nykola5 said:
I really prefer to wait for you to fix the bug that I could not presess in the 93-14 overheating, battery drainage and low fps in their animations (note that I did a factory reset and still it was fatal) so if they delay I hope they fix All that and that is a stable version for all the said sayings of this terminal
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Yes, I agree with you. I also have battery drain and low fps in animations.

Am just wondering when we get 7.1.1 hmm?

Can't post like, but made a picture. Lenovo Germany Tweitter Account. They speak for all "retde" and "reteu" devices.
Translated means: "right now we can't tell you any further information concerning the update"
Looks like end of February is a farse (like Ende of December oder January).
And they also mentioned earlier it will be 7.0 and not 7.1.1