Looking over the ROMs I notice they seem to always say.
Flash radio
Flash ROM
Why the extra step? Last time I flashed custom ROMs and it has been awhile because ..... I am waiting and waiting for ICS, we used to have one zip file and it contained both.
AstroDigital said:
Looking over the ROMs I notice they seem to always say.
Flash radio
Flash ROM
Why the extra step? Last time I flashed custom ROMs and it has been awhile because ..... I am waiting and waiting for ICS, we used to have one zip file and it contained both.
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because there are many different radios ....some work better for others .....to prevent a ril mismatch. u flash the modem. then the rom ......the rom flash will replace the ril. of the modem. so say if u want to use a kj2 modem on a ucla3 rom. well the ucla3 rom with a kj2 modem flash over it would yield a ucla rom. with kj2 modem. and kj2 ril. which may cause wacky data issues..........however if u flash modem first.....then flash rom you will have the base band you just flashed ..but your rom flash will give u the proper ril...
i can not guarantee the mismatch would always cause data issues. however with ucla3 modem it does and has been verified. numerous time.......ucla3 modem needs ucla 3 ril
but if your going to use a ucla3 modem and rom.........u may flash the modem first..if your not currently on ucla3 base band.......as long as you know for sure that said rom has proper ril.
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theres a really cool rom called SILVER_ROM_STI you should check out......and a version that flashes the new ucla3 modem with the rom is being uploaded
ok, so what i get is to flash radio, then rom, so that the RIL from the rom is applied. but what is RIL? i'm using a skyrocket on tmobile network and want to use tmobile roms for the wifi calling feature.
in my scenario, what is the best procedure? i do not understand what RIL is and what it does and what it needs to be compatible with.
what i think is the best course is this, please correct me if i am wrong:
flash tmobile radio
flash tmobile rom
flash skyrocket kernel (is this necessary?)
again , i am using the skyrocket on tmobile network and i want to use tmobile roms for wifi calling. i would also like to be able to access tmobile networks at full speed.
thanks!
RIL is radio interface library, its kinda how your rom and radio talk. The method use just described should work, if you loose datacafter flashing the rom just flash the modem again.
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data has been weird lately. speedtest is all over the place and typically doesn't go over 500kbps, but i have no issues browing web or streaming music.. i was attributing this issue to the one that is similar to samsung note users, but they have been patching tmobile radios to be used with the note.. im wondering if radios should be patched for the skyrocket
fyi, i do not know what they are patching.
Is it possible to flash the Blaze 4g radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572198
Then flash a rom over it to rewrite the RIL, and see if it works for the i727, or will it brick it?
I'm on T-mobile btw, and still trying to find a good combo. Can't get over 600 kbps DL and over 30 kbps UL
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Is it possible to flash the Blaze 4g radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572198
Then flash a rom over it to rewrite the RIL, and see if it works for the i727, or will it brick it?
I'm on T-mobile btw, and still trying to find a good combo. Can't get over 600 kbps DL and over 30 kbps UL
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can you provide more information? what rom are you using? i am currently running the blaze radio you mentioned with tmobile tuesday rom with i727 faux kernel. it works. are you sure your speeds are not linked to your location? for instance, at my desk, i see speeds like you... but when i walk away like 50 feet, i get 3mbps.. go figure.
I have tried many combos:
ROM: Juggernaut 5.0, sky-ics
Kernel: faux 9m&u ,10&u
Radio: KID, VLK1, KJ3, LB7 (Blaze)
APN: wap, epc, internet2/3
Isolated 2g and 3g/4g
Everything performed similarly. Right now I'm on Juggernaut 5, faux 10u, and any radio.
I just received it yesterday and I have only been using it at my house so it could be location based.
What I found interesting was when I'm on a phone call and I use the internet, it runs where it should be around 2mb-4mb DL but upload is still weak at 100 kbps UL. Tried it multiple times on different radios, so it doesn't seem to be an isolated incident. Any reason why this is happening?
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I have tried many combos:
ROM: Juggernaut 5.0, sky-ics
Kernel: faux 9m&u ,10&u
Radio: KID, VLK1, KJ3, LB7 (Blaze)
APN: wap, epc, internet2/3
Isolated 2g and 3g/4g
Everything performed similarly. Right now I'm on Juggernaut 5, faux 10u, and any radio.
I just received it yesterday and I have only been using it at my house so it could be location based.
What I found interesting was when I'm on a phone call and I use the internet, it runs where it should be around 2mb-4mb DL but upload is still weak at 100 kbps UL. Tried it multiple times on different radios, so it doesn't seem to be an isolated incident. Any reason why this is happening?
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i wish i knew, but our problems seem in line with that of samsung note users on tmobile. at the end of the day though, it's just a speed test. i have not had problems streaming music (except 8tracks), so all is good enough for me, at the moment..
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I just got a new Nexus S purchased from a Rogers store here in Canada.
I am eager to start flashing some new ROM's and such but I have learned some things in the past with my SGS and I really want to make sure I have my stock radio available in case I need to flash it back.
i9020AUCKB2 is my stock modem. I have some newer modems ready to flash but I am worried that it will cripple my 3G connection to Canadian carriers.
I have looked and can't find this modem anywhere. Also I don't know how to back it up myself. I have already done a CWM backup but I have read that this doesn't backup the radio firmware.
Does anyone know how I can easily backup my own radio or where I can download it from?
+1 I've been searching for the last few days info about the exact same thing. I just sold my i9000m and was hoping to flash some new roms with this phone too but not gonna try until I either have a stock odin version of this rom or at the very least the CKB2 modem.
+1 same boat, want to know this too
Just bought Nexus S yesterday Telus baseband I9020AUCKB2.
Rooted and installed CWM 3.0.2.4 and flashed CM7 (Great ROM) baseband remained the same
from what I've been reading in Nexus S dev, Odin is something we should try to avoid if possible. I came from Fascinate T959D and I thought about it but that's probably one of the easiest ways to brick if you don't know EXACTLY what you're flashing and WHAT you're flashing it on.
Odin = last resort
lucidcoin20 glad to hear that flashing CM7 didn't change the baseband, I didn't have the courage to try it. I wouldn't flash just anything with odin but if you can find the right files it will get you out of a mess pretty quick. I agree its not for noobies with no clue what's going on but if Samfirmware comes out with the 9020a rom I'll make sure to have it on my pc for an emergency.
But from my phone wich is a Koodo version (went with them cause they were so cheap outright so I could go just cancel and go back to bell) we all have the At&t version so all Canada is the same. Hope it all works that way so I can go on CM7.
But would still like to learn how to backup the radio file in case I ever need it in the future.
Well I went ahead and flashed KB3. My speeds are less than impressive but I still have 3g with Rogers. Still looking for KB2 though to do some more testing.
Have you tryied KB1 radio, works good for me, i believe it is a US radio.
pterry30 said:
Have you tryied KB1 radio, works good for me, i believe it is a US radio.
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Flashed KB1 and KB3 and tested using speedtest.com app, three separate times over wifi and cellular network - the KB1 was roughly 10-15% slower than the KB3 for me..
KB3 labelled my radio as "ATT" btw
CraneGuy said:
But from my phone wich is a Koodo version (went with them cause they were so cheap outright so I could go just cancel and go back to bell)
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LMAO did the same thing but for rogers saved $75.
If you look in Q & A forum, there is a post for a clockwork flash, K2B radio, just posted in that forum today. I have flashed the radio, work great fore me.
You can get the KB2 radio file on my thread in the General forum at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13077026
Thanks a lot, I was unaware that the Canadian carriers used KB2. Currently I am using KB3 and I noticed that sometimes the call breaks up, however I am not sure if its the firmware to blame. Does anyone have similar experiences with KB3?
I have tested KB2 and KB3 and my tests are not constant. Sometimes I get only 1MB or less down and up, sometimes I get 5MB down and 3up.
I'm not sure why the tests are so different. I can do the tests one after another in the same place and get completely different results.
I am with Rogers and I am using the Speedtest app. I noticed at one point the speedtest app was connecting to a server in Quebec which made no sense since I am near Toronto. The test results I mentioned above do not take the Quebec tests into consideration.
Well, here goes.
I've been reading alot for quite a while, and learning everything I could around this place. Thanks to tall who contribute.
I'm running NScollab, 1.0.42, with matrix 8.0 kernel.
Currently on the XXKB3 baseband.
Following this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116884
I tried flashing the new KF1 radio for the nexus S. No luck. Either is doesn't flash at all ( status 6 error ) or when it does ( the signed version can be flashed in CWM ) no signal whatsoever. I've tried everything, changing the band, ( *#*#4636#*#* ) rebooting 45 times, dalvik wipe, changing type of radio, all guides, searched google, this website ( for a whole week ).
Nothing came up.
I'm posting, because this is pretty much last resort. I actually tried the KF1 radio on Miui, devnull, oxygen, and NScollab.
Telus users out there, what is your baseband ? What radio gives you the best signal and performance ? I know koodo switched to KF1, but I can't get it to work on my NS.
Any help is appreciated !
still noone ?
Darn.
wrick01 said:
still noone ?
Darn.
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I use KB3 for koodo(telus). I get signal... and it works.
I'm curious as to whether KF1 would be a better radio for us, or if it even works for Telus/Koodo. Anybody know?
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xcoley said:
I'm curious as to whether KF1 would be a better radio for us, or if it even works for Telus/Koodo. Anybody know?MC
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I have a Telus Nexus S in BC and I just installed an OTA update to 2.3.6 / GRK39F / I9020AUCKF1 and the KF1 radio seems to be working fine. I've been able to call around and MMS without issues so far. (about 2 hrs) Not enough time spent with it to tell you if it gets better reception or not...
I acutally installed the OTA pacakage in order to go back to stock as I was getting sick of the Search Bug that has been plaguing my phone for ages and I was going to bring it back for warranty work, but it appears the flash of the radio to KF1 that was included in the package has resolved the Search Bug!
Sweet! So, I might stick with this for a bit to confirm it is gone and and if all is well, I guess there's no need to return the phone for service!
I have the same issue on koodo. Flashed ICS and I get reception with KF1 downtown but barely anything at home and it used to be great.
I'm running the UCKF1 radio on my telus NS, on cm9 + matrix 14.5. With my phone, it was impossible to flash the radio with CWM, it would flash, but could not get on the network. I had to use fastboot to flash the radio.
In my experience, XXKB3 and XXKD1 were definitely the fastest radios (no upload cap), but my connection was unstable, needing occasional reboots to reestablish connection if I ever lost reception. UCKF1 has been rock solid for me. (I'm in the Toronto area)
Also, for some reason I only started getting the search bug with ICS and XXKD1, but UCKF1 fixed that.
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Want to put the new kernel and radio on my Rogers 727R which is rooted, stock and CWM. The reason not putting on the whole ROM is that I will lose Rogers specific features, including hotspots without mods, and also NFC which I think is also Rogers specific.
My question is, when I install the new UCLA3modem.zip and the new UCLA3_stock_kernel.zip, will they work with my existing Rogers ROM and retain those features.
Also is there a specific order I should put them on, or does it not matter.
I'm not sure if those features are in the Kernel, or in the ROM.
Thanks
i asked the exact same question a coupe days ago, i was told it would work but will disable the rogers specific features
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you ask about installing the ROM. I'm asking about installing only the Kernel and Radio. So in effect, I'm asking, are the Rogers-specific features (wifi hotspot and NFC) located in the ROM, or in the Kernel.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you ask about installing the ROM. I'm asking about installing only the Kernel and Radio. So in effect, I'm asking, are the Rogers-specific features (wifi hotspot and NFC) located in the ROM, or in the Kernel.
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I'm not sure if the NFC ability is part of the Kernel, the ROM, or both, but if you install the ROM, you will not have the "NFC" menu available even if NFC does continue to work with the phone. So, the best way to know if the kernel itself (and not the ROM) will mess up you hotspot and NFC is to do a nandroid backup and thry to flash the kernel. If it doessn't work, you can always restore your nandroid to exactly the place you made the backup from. The reason I suggest this is because it seems the kernel has a slightly different effect for different people so even if someone told you one thing...it may not apply to your situation. Hope this helped. The radio should not make a difference with the things you are concerned with, but if you flash the radio, you will need to relash a different radio (or the same you have now) if you don'y like it, because the radio lives in its own place and needs to be flashed by itslf.
I am on rogers as well and I flashed the new modem and kernel seperately and together and as a Rogers user I honestly didn't see a speed boost on my end. I did two speed tests one with the da_g .3 rogers kernel with the rogers modem and got at least 2.5 mbps faster than the updated kernel and modem combo. Just my 2ยข on the subject.
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Flash tpc v3, or any other Rogers based rom, u will still have ur hotspots and nfc. Any of dags kernels (0.3, or the one included in the tpc v3, 0.43pre2) or the stock Rogers kernel will still work with nfc and stuff. Stay away from faux kernels as their wifi tethering has been disabled. I personally recommend u avoid the UCLA3 modem and kernel as in my experience it doesn't increase speed o
or reception on Rogers network, its actually worse
Title says it all. Long story short I need the ICS Modem in CWM zipable or quick instruct how to flash with odin..OR know if I can flash a ginger modem in my creamsandwich..
THanks
I don't believe so.
Why would you want UCLA3?
The new ICS rom comes with a newer version of the modem called UCALC4. I don't think there's any reason why you would go back to LA3.
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The new ICS rom comes with a newer version of the modem called UCALC4. I don't think there's any reason why you would go back to LA3.
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UCALC4 increases my network speeds. You shouldn't flash the old radio it is pointless
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yahooserious said:
Title says it all. Long story short I need the ICS Modem in CWM zipable or quick instruct how to flash with odin..OR know if I can flash a ginger modem in my creamsandwich..
THanks
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What did you do to mess up your modem??? If you want to easily fix your phone the best thing to do is go into download mode and re-install ICS with odin. That will reflash the stock ICS radio
I am also looking for the ICS modem files
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24099193#post24099193
Apologies if this counts as thread-jacking
I flashed UCLA3 Kernel with hopes to OC ICS to the hilt..Idiocracy I know.. Well the 3Kernel Bootlooped me so I got help in the form of the ICS Kernel in CWM flashable and fixed my loopboot but then noticed that my baseband was blank or said unknown and there were no 4g lte or bars on top so I wanted to flash a modem.
I eventually reflashed the whole package and put 5 hours+ setting up ICS to waste...Exactlly what i wanted to avoid.
I noticed the Modem has been posted a few places now btw
I think this is something that should be looked into.
Obviously, just like every other aspect of this phone, some people will report better performance with the new ICS modem. If that's you...good for you! But there will be some of us that do not get better performance. I work in an area that has way better performance and connectivity with the UCLA3 modem. For me, the ICS modem is a throwback to the pre-UCLA3 modems. I've read that others have similar bad results with both towers and Wifi. And, with poor connectivity comes poor battery life!
So, I am now wondering:
A. Is (has) anyone been able to use the UCLA3 modem with the new ICS leak or ROMs?
B. Would it be possible to modify the UCLA3 modem (if it doesn't already work) so it can be used with ICS?
Thanks. The more options we can come up with to help everyone get the most out of their SkyRocket, the better off we will all be.
Try This
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24227420&postcount=30
uses
UCLA3
will still show up as UCLA4 under settings. Be sure to thank the poster and mention if you see a boost in performance.
I tried it because of the data issues with ics that i had. Lost all data after i flashed and was baseband unknown.
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try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24227420
ICS Modem Files - WORKING UCAL4 Modem
near the end of the thread LeeC has posted a new UCLA3 modem that's shows up under baseband as ucla4 but is old ucla3 modem, which DOESN'T have data connectivity issues
So I decided to start playing with different radio, dish, and ril settings yesterday. I was running 3.32.501 (t-mobile ics firmware), ARHD 6.6.5, 11.69A radio (Dish2), all my data speeds were working fine.
I decided to flash the 11.72 radio. Once i did i got no 3g or 4G data speeds only 2G. Someone recommended that i check my mobile data settings and switch to WCDMA which i did, but this had no effect at all.
So my question is this...for the 11.72 radio do i need to have the 3.32.401 firmware? Does anyone know what happened?
I did flash back to the 11.69A radio and everything is fine again.
Some radios will require different firmwares and the RILs must be from the same Android version. As in, GB ril won't work in ICS.
el7145 said:
So I decided to start playing with different radio, dish, and ril settings yesterday. I was running 3.32.501 (t-mobile ics firmware), ARHD 6.6.5, 11.69A radio (Dish2), all my data speeds were working fine.
I decided to flash the 11.72 radio. Once i did i got no 3g or 4G data speeds only 2G. Someone recommended that i check my mobile data settings and switch to WCDMA which i did, but this had no effect at all.
So my question is this...for the 11.72 radio do i need to have the 3.32.401 firmware? Does anyone know what happened?
I did flash back to the 11.69A radio and everything is fine again.
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Hi,
Try posting in THIS THREAD
Radio guru in charge.
malybru said:
Hi,
Try posting in THIS THREAD
Radio guru in charge.
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yeah ive been posting in there, but i figured i would start a new post, bc i didnt want to clutter that thread with all my questions
SO just to update, i decided it might be my tmobile 3.32.531 firmware causing the issue, so i flashed the 3.32.401, 11.72 radio and ril 0017 (mismatch) and all data speeds were back.
So unless im missing something the tmobile 3.32.501 firmware may not be compatible with other radios (except the tmobile one, 11.69A), or there is a setting (in build.prop?) not set correctly.
Also I have used the tmobile firmware with other rils without any immediate data impact.