Want to put the new kernel and radio on my Rogers 727R which is rooted, stock and CWM. The reason not putting on the whole ROM is that I will lose Rogers specific features, including hotspots without mods, and also NFC which I think is also Rogers specific.
My question is, when I install the new UCLA3modem.zip and the new UCLA3_stock_kernel.zip, will they work with my existing Rogers ROM and retain those features.
Also is there a specific order I should put them on, or does it not matter.
I'm not sure if those features are in the Kernel, or in the ROM.
Thanks
i asked the exact same question a coupe days ago, i was told it would work but will disable the rogers specific features
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you ask about installing the ROM. I'm asking about installing only the Kernel and Radio. So in effect, I'm asking, are the Rogers-specific features (wifi hotspot and NFC) located in the ROM, or in the Kernel.
harry_fine said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you ask about installing the ROM. I'm asking about installing only the Kernel and Radio. So in effect, I'm asking, are the Rogers-specific features (wifi hotspot and NFC) located in the ROM, or in the Kernel.
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I'm not sure if the NFC ability is part of the Kernel, the ROM, or both, but if you install the ROM, you will not have the "NFC" menu available even if NFC does continue to work with the phone. So, the best way to know if the kernel itself (and not the ROM) will mess up you hotspot and NFC is to do a nandroid backup and thry to flash the kernel. If it doessn't work, you can always restore your nandroid to exactly the place you made the backup from. The reason I suggest this is because it seems the kernel has a slightly different effect for different people so even if someone told you one thing...it may not apply to your situation. Hope this helped. The radio should not make a difference with the things you are concerned with, but if you flash the radio, you will need to relash a different radio (or the same you have now) if you don'y like it, because the radio lives in its own place and needs to be flashed by itslf.
I am on rogers as well and I flashed the new modem and kernel seperately and together and as a Rogers user I honestly didn't see a speed boost on my end. I did two speed tests one with the da_g .3 rogers kernel with the rogers modem and got at least 2.5 mbps faster than the updated kernel and modem combo. Just my 2ยข on the subject.
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Flash tpc v3, or any other Rogers based rom, u will still have ur hotspots and nfc. Any of dags kernels (0.3, or the one included in the tpc v3, 0.43pre2) or the stock Rogers kernel will still work with nfc and stuff. Stay away from faux kernels as their wifi tethering has been disabled. I personally recommend u avoid the UCLA3 modem and kernel as in my experience it doesn't increase speed o
or reception on Rogers network, its actually worse
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Okay, I have android 2.2, the SuperClean 2.9.2 (or whatever new rom version it is), with voodoo activated. and the iamnuts_50_voodoo kernel on my phone. I am reading up about radios on the phone and if I understand correctly certain roms need certain radios to work. First off I cannot find what radio version I have and also I need to know if I need a certain version of radio for this current rom that I am using. Thank you.
Go to Settings > About phone and your radio is the last part of Baseband version. If you haven't specifically flashed another one, it's probably EC10. If you're running the version of that rom that was fixed for the Mesmerize, you're fine. If you're not, your phone should not be working. People who have flashed the newer EC01 radio have to use Fascinate roms because it's a Fascinate radio.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037918
This probably explains it better than I can.
I'm wanting to know if flashing a new rom can automatically change my RIL's? I know radio does not change unless I purposely flash a new radio, but without using ROM names I'll try to describe my issue and the reason behind my question.
I was using a Sense 3.5 rom for a week with everything working just great. I decided to try a different kernel with that rom and after flashing the new kernel my gps stopped working. OK, reflash the original rom and things are back to working well.
THEN...I decide I want to try CM7 so I flash a CM rom and try it out for a couple days, decide that it's really not going to work for me and go back to original rom with original kernel.
NOW...gps is taking forever to lock, and google nav doesn't lock at all unless I open up a gps app like gps status or chartcross gps test. I flashed cryps AGPS patch for tmous users and it still has this same issue.
Any ideas, opinions, or other solutions are greatly appreciated. I use my navigation a lot and it's a key requirement for my phone so quick gps lock is extremely important for me.
kingston73 said:
I'm wanting to know if flashing a new rom can automatically change my RIL's? I know radio does not change unless I purposely flash a new radio, but without using ROM names I'll try to describe my issue and the reason behind my question.
I was using a Sense 3.5 rom for a week with everything working just great. I decided to try a different kernel with that rom and after flashing the new kernel my gps stopped working. OK, reflash the original rom and things are back to working well.
THEN...I decide I want to try CM7 so I flash a CM rom and try it out for a couple days, decide that it's really not going to work for me and go back to original rom with original kernel.
NOW...gps is taking forever to lock, and google nav doesn't lock at all unless I open up a gps app like gps status or chartcross gps test. I flashed cryps AGPS patch for tmous users and it still has this same issue.
Any ideas, opinions, or other solutions are greatly appreciated. I use my navigation a lot and it's a key requirement for my phone so quick gps lock is extremely important for me.
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Mostly the rils are replaced by the rom IF the chef puts it in. But more inclined all do.
And yes the ril and radio is essential to have gps working quickly. So you can just match the radio to the ril.
If that doesn't work, compare the rils on an old nandroid and the new rom. I'm going to say that the rils will be different.
And also in my experience, flashing different kernels also affects the gps locks as well. For me bricked and faux kernels always borked my gps. So now I only go with the bundled kernel, because most times, the dev tested out the gps with the kernel before releasing it.
You can always flash the matching radio to the RIL you now have, that should sort you out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200403
Thanks for the answers and suggestions so far. So this is what I've done so far:
- reflashed first rom after doing a factory reset/wipe in ext4 recovery. It used to work well with my signal and my gps using the latest 10.56 TmoUS radio. After trying to get lock for 15 minutes I gave up
- read the RIL thread and flashed the recommended .169 ril for the 10.56 radio and still bad gps, no lock. What's weird is in both the above cases Ucenter gps app finds satellites but google nav and endomondo do not lock, ever. So I know my gps hardware is working but it's just not communicating with any apps.
- I'm going to now try using Superwipe and reinstalling the rom 1 more time, not sure if that will do anything at all but I'm out of ideas. Otherwise I may have to give up on this particular rom even though it used to work well.
And no, the rom does not recommend any particular radio.
Remember to try the rom (with matching ril) without flashing a kernel first.
Looking over the ROMs I notice they seem to always say.
Flash radio
Flash ROM
Why the extra step? Last time I flashed custom ROMs and it has been awhile because ..... I am waiting and waiting for ICS, we used to have one zip file and it contained both.
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Looking over the ROMs I notice they seem to always say.
Flash radio
Flash ROM
Why the extra step? Last time I flashed custom ROMs and it has been awhile because ..... I am waiting and waiting for ICS, we used to have one zip file and it contained both.
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because there are many different radios ....some work better for others .....to prevent a ril mismatch. u flash the modem. then the rom ......the rom flash will replace the ril. of the modem. so say if u want to use a kj2 modem on a ucla3 rom. well the ucla3 rom with a kj2 modem flash over it would yield a ucla rom. with kj2 modem. and kj2 ril. which may cause wacky data issues..........however if u flash modem first.....then flash rom you will have the base band you just flashed ..but your rom flash will give u the proper ril...
i can not guarantee the mismatch would always cause data issues. however with ucla3 modem it does and has been verified. numerous time.......ucla3 modem needs ucla 3 ril
but if your going to use a ucla3 modem and rom.........u may flash the modem first..if your not currently on ucla3 base band.......as long as you know for sure that said rom has proper ril.
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theres a really cool rom called SILVER_ROM_STI you should check out......and a version that flashes the new ucla3 modem with the rom is being uploaded
ok, so what i get is to flash radio, then rom, so that the RIL from the rom is applied. but what is RIL? i'm using a skyrocket on tmobile network and want to use tmobile roms for the wifi calling feature.
in my scenario, what is the best procedure? i do not understand what RIL is and what it does and what it needs to be compatible with.
what i think is the best course is this, please correct me if i am wrong:
flash tmobile radio
flash tmobile rom
flash skyrocket kernel (is this necessary?)
again , i am using the skyrocket on tmobile network and i want to use tmobile roms for wifi calling. i would also like to be able to access tmobile networks at full speed.
thanks!
RIL is radio interface library, its kinda how your rom and radio talk. The method use just described should work, if you loose datacafter flashing the rom just flash the modem again.
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data has been weird lately. speedtest is all over the place and typically doesn't go over 500kbps, but i have no issues browing web or streaming music.. i was attributing this issue to the one that is similar to samsung note users, but they have been patching tmobile radios to be used with the note.. im wondering if radios should be patched for the skyrocket
fyi, i do not know what they are patching.
Is it possible to flash the Blaze 4g radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572198
Then flash a rom over it to rewrite the RIL, and see if it works for the i727, or will it brick it?
I'm on T-mobile btw, and still trying to find a good combo. Can't get over 600 kbps DL and over 30 kbps UL
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Is it possible to flash the Blaze 4g radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572198
Then flash a rom over it to rewrite the RIL, and see if it works for the i727, or will it brick it?
I'm on T-mobile btw, and still trying to find a good combo. Can't get over 600 kbps DL and over 30 kbps UL
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can you provide more information? what rom are you using? i am currently running the blaze radio you mentioned with tmobile tuesday rom with i727 faux kernel. it works. are you sure your speeds are not linked to your location? for instance, at my desk, i see speeds like you... but when i walk away like 50 feet, i get 3mbps.. go figure.
I have tried many combos:
ROM: Juggernaut 5.0, sky-ics
Kernel: faux 9m&u ,10&u
Radio: KID, VLK1, KJ3, LB7 (Blaze)
APN: wap, epc, internet2/3
Isolated 2g and 3g/4g
Everything performed similarly. Right now I'm on Juggernaut 5, faux 10u, and any radio.
I just received it yesterday and I have only been using it at my house so it could be location based.
What I found interesting was when I'm on a phone call and I use the internet, it runs where it should be around 2mb-4mb DL but upload is still weak at 100 kbps UL. Tried it multiple times on different radios, so it doesn't seem to be an isolated incident. Any reason why this is happening?
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I have tried many combos:
ROM: Juggernaut 5.0, sky-ics
Kernel: faux 9m&u ,10&u
Radio: KID, VLK1, KJ3, LB7 (Blaze)
APN: wap, epc, internet2/3
Isolated 2g and 3g/4g
Everything performed similarly. Right now I'm on Juggernaut 5, faux 10u, and any radio.
I just received it yesterday and I have only been using it at my house so it could be location based.
What I found interesting was when I'm on a phone call and I use the internet, it runs where it should be around 2mb-4mb DL but upload is still weak at 100 kbps UL. Tried it multiple times on different radios, so it doesn't seem to be an isolated incident. Any reason why this is happening?
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i wish i knew, but our problems seem in line with that of samsung note users on tmobile. at the end of the day though, it's just a speed test. i have not had problems streaming music (except 8tracks), so all is good enough for me, at the moment..
Title says it all. Long story short I need the ICS Modem in CWM zipable or quick instruct how to flash with odin..OR know if I can flash a ginger modem in my creamsandwich..
THanks
I don't believe so.
Why would you want UCLA3?
The new ICS rom comes with a newer version of the modem called UCALC4. I don't think there's any reason why you would go back to LA3.
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The new ICS rom comes with a newer version of the modem called UCALC4. I don't think there's any reason why you would go back to LA3.
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UCALC4 increases my network speeds. You shouldn't flash the old radio it is pointless
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yahooserious said:
Title says it all. Long story short I need the ICS Modem in CWM zipable or quick instruct how to flash with odin..OR know if I can flash a ginger modem in my creamsandwich..
THanks
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What did you do to mess up your modem??? If you want to easily fix your phone the best thing to do is go into download mode and re-install ICS with odin. That will reflash the stock ICS radio
I am also looking for the ICS modem files
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24099193#post24099193
Apologies if this counts as thread-jacking
I flashed UCLA3 Kernel with hopes to OC ICS to the hilt..Idiocracy I know.. Well the 3Kernel Bootlooped me so I got help in the form of the ICS Kernel in CWM flashable and fixed my loopboot but then noticed that my baseband was blank or said unknown and there were no 4g lte or bars on top so I wanted to flash a modem.
I eventually reflashed the whole package and put 5 hours+ setting up ICS to waste...Exactlly what i wanted to avoid.
I noticed the Modem has been posted a few places now btw
I think this is something that should be looked into.
Obviously, just like every other aspect of this phone, some people will report better performance with the new ICS modem. If that's you...good for you! But there will be some of us that do not get better performance. I work in an area that has way better performance and connectivity with the UCLA3 modem. For me, the ICS modem is a throwback to the pre-UCLA3 modems. I've read that others have similar bad results with both towers and Wifi. And, with poor connectivity comes poor battery life!
So, I am now wondering:
A. Is (has) anyone been able to use the UCLA3 modem with the new ICS leak or ROMs?
B. Would it be possible to modify the UCLA3 modem (if it doesn't already work) so it can be used with ICS?
Thanks. The more options we can come up with to help everyone get the most out of their SkyRocket, the better off we will all be.
Try This
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24227420&postcount=30
uses
UCLA3
will still show up as UCLA4 under settings. Be sure to thank the poster and mention if you see a boost in performance.
I tried it because of the data issues with ics that i had. Lost all data after i flashed and was baseband unknown.
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try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24227420
ICS Modem Files - WORKING UCAL4 Modem
near the end of the thread LeeC has posted a new UCLA3 modem that's shows up under baseband as ucla4 but is old ucla3 modem, which DOESN'T have data connectivity issues
Can someone help me out. I can't find a straight forward answer for this. If I were to flash a new rom, would I need a radio? I know the radio deals with GPS and data and everything but that's about as much as I know. The reason I adk is I just installed a rom by mod and i flashed t after wiping a close to stock just debloated ics. My wifi is very weak, and my speed results are at an all time low. Like my download speed is 2mb and it used to hang around eight. Websites don't load terribly slow but not as zippy as they used to. My GPS takes a little messing with before it c ition. I'm on whatever kernel came with the rom cause I'm completely lost on kernels and undervolting and overclocking and everything. I'd love to to fix my battery life cause that's complete shot too but..my bad I got off topic. Do I need to flash an radio on top of the rom? Would I need to do this every time I flashed a new one or updated? And which one would I flash? Sorry for the obnoxiously long post but any help is appreciated.
If you're on at&t , the latest radio is UCLF6 .. Search for it in dev section and flash it in ODIN or CWM if you're not already on it (or flash it anyway)... Another note is preferably to use the ROM with the radio that was released with it on leaked or official builds ...
Most custom roms are radio free or at least they should ... Leaving radio choice on user ...Radio files are not topics of customaiztion..
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If you're on at&t , the latest radio is UCLF6 .. Search for it in dev section and flash it in ODIN or CWM if you're not already on it (or flash it anyway)... Another note is preferably to use the ROM with the radio that was released with it on leaked or official builds ...
Most custom roms are radio free or at least they should ... Leaving radio choice on user ...Radio files are not topics of customaiztion..
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You're a life saver. So most roms come without radios and leave it up to you? And if I happen to be on uclf6 and I flash it anyway it won't hurt? I was wondering about that too forgot to ask. Sorry if im just tired and misreading but your last lines confused me a bit, you said that roms should be radio free but then said they're not topics of customization..?
See : if a custom ROM has radio baked with it you'll see it inside the zip for this ROM and the forum thread should mention it in the instructions...And if this is not the case your old radio will stay untouched...And yes to the other question, flashing the radio again would not hurt but I personally don't like messing with radio if not needed...And again personally I like using the latest stiff and in this case use UCLF6 although some might say try different radios until you find the one performing the best for you...
Thanks again, flashed uclf6 radio, learned I didn't need to but hey. Off to attempt different radio/kernel combos