I have apps that should be checking for notifications (Tweetcaster, Friendcaster and G+) not doing so because they are being closed down by the system and so cannot do the periodic checks. Is there any way to force Android to leave apps open?
I'm using ICS and the apps are setup to check/notify.
I think its up to the app.....it must has the push notification on ....if that is on the app will continue to notify you....
I don't think you can force android to keep it open running in background....
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The app says it has push notifications, and they work when the app is in memory, it's just it gets closed down all the time.
If there is no way to make it stay in memory, is there a way to get it to start every hour?
Use a different kernel - one without bigmem.
Maximilian Mary said:
Use a different kernel - one without bigmem.
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Any suggestions which is a good one?
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Any suggestions which is a good one?
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I'm looking for a better one, but am using Franco at the moment. It seems hard on the battery (at least without some governor / clock speed tweaking) and I've had a few reboots, but it's very smooth and it's so nice to not have my background tasks killed anymore (music, radio, downloads, etc).
Have you set 'Backgroud Process limit' or 'Don't keep Activities' options?
No, it's on standard limit.
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so i'm using an advance task killer (blue icon) and whenever i end all open apps
it tells me "advanced task killer ended "x" apps" but all the apps remain open in the recent app window in their current state..
is there an alternative way to remove the apps from the recent menu all at once?
i'm new to honeycomb..
Get rid of the Task killer imo
baseballfanz said:
Get rid of the Task killer imo
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okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
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okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
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I use Active Apps & Watchdog to kill apps. Both in the market.
It's a Recent Apps list. Not a running in the background list.
All Android since 1.0 (T-Mobile G1, the first Android phone), there's been a recent app list. You press and hold the Home button. On Android 3.0 for tablets, there is a dedicated button.
In Android 3.1, the recent app list has been extended to more than 5 shown. It's now 14/15
You don't need to manually quit apps on Android. I get 15-20 hours battery with heavy use.
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You don't need to manually quit apps on Android. I get 15-20 hours battery with heavy use.
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How in the world do you get that much usage....is the screen on 1% brightness and radio off?...
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How in the world do you get that much usage....is the screen on 1% brightness and radio off?...
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I just leave the screen on auto brightness. The battery on these things is excellent.
I am new to not just Honeycomb but android all together. I think that it is completely asinine that there isn't an easy way to stop/close apps. when you bring up the recent app list if you tap & hold you should be given the option to close that app/window.
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I am new to not just Honeycomb but android all together. I think that it is completely asinine that there isn't an easy way to stop/close apps. when you bring up the recent app list if you tap & hold you should be given the option to close that app/window.
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+1 for this
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okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
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An "app" called Android. Honeycomb caches and/or kills apps on its own. Try it without the killer. Start angry birds, exit and then go back....
So what is a GOOD and FUNCTIONING Task Manager app for the HoneyComb platform? I am using ZDBOX for my Thunderbolt, but it is NOT compatible with HoneyComb.
I use Task Manager to monitor which apps is USING too much battery, not killing them. It's must faster to use this type of app than going to Settings -> Applications and wait for the apps to be listed.
For example, I use ZDBOX in my Thunderbolt and notice that Skype is running in the background ALL THE TIME, using 11 to 25 Mb even when I am not using it for the whole day. Battery life begun to suffer, so I uninstall it.
The way android works is that if an app is using a service that needs to be ran in the background, you'll find it in that list in the application menu. Otherwise, it gets cached, so it will restore faster when you you open it again. Plain and simple, if you need to use a task manager for an Android app, it's either a poorly designed app - possibly containing something bad, or you need to shut down all the services the app needs - which should be a rare occasion if it's a worthwhile app.
What are you trying to kill so often?
If it's something that you've told is okay to run in the background, when you kill it, it probably starts up again. Using a task manager to kill these means your phone is constantly starting up and killing a service, which isn't good for battery life.
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Hakizi said:
I just leave the screen on auto brightness. The battery on these things is excellent.
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Must not be playing much flash. That eats it up.
watchdog not only will let you kill apps but tell you if any are overachivers
if things get out of hand press and hold the power button for a clean restart
I think if you go through settings and look for running apps, you can kill them. You app murderer.
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The way android works is that if an app is using a service that needs to be ran in the background, you'll find it in that list in the application menu. Otherwise, it gets cached, so it will restore faster when you you open it again. Plain and simple, if you need to use a task manager for an Android app, it's either a poorly designed app - possibly containing something bad, or you need to shut down all the services the app needs - which should be a rare occasion if it's a worthwhile app.
What are you trying to kill so often?
If it's something that you've told is okay to run in the background, when you kill it, it probably starts up again. Using a task manager to kill these means your phone is constantly starting up and killing a service, which isn't good for battery life.
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That's why I need a Task Killer: to kill those poor-behaving apps. I don't use the Task Killer very often, though.
For example: I use an app called Flight Track. I don't fly very often, but I do fly more than average (once to twice a month, sometimes none in a month). This app is running in the background ALL the time. But on months I don't fly, I do not need this app to run in the background. So I kill the app and it does NOT start again in the background until I manually start the app.
I'm using Widget Locker. Nice app. However it's annoying me because its process not running in the back ground (like system files) but instead running like an app. So everytimes I go to "task manager" to clear running app in the background. I can't just clear all to save my baterry. It will close Widget Locker (i have manually close one by one app). Is there a way to integrate it to system files so I won't see it in the "Task Manager".
Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
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Try an app from the market called Watchdog. It is a really good app that lets you real time see processes and cpu usage and it will alert you on thresh holds of over usage. You can individually kill those processes which may be inadvertently over using your phone and eating up your battery. Task killers just blanketly kill apps and processes. Some of which restart right back up chewing up you cpu and also wasting precious battery. So doing this continuously will just overwork and kill your usage time on the phone. If you precisely pinpoint the app causing issues you can leave the phone to manage the application as it is designed to do and also you may notice other regularly used apps opening quicker and more responsive. Give it a try and keep us posted.
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I'm using Widget Locker. Nice app. However it's annoying me because its process not running in the back ground (like system files) but instead running like an app. So everytimes I go to "task manager" to clear running app in the background. I can't just clear all to save my baterry. It will close Widget Locker (i have manually close one by one app). Is there a way to integrate it to system files so I won't see it in the "Task Manager".
Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
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I'm using Go Launcher. It has a built in task manager that also allows you to lock app so you don't close them by accident. Have my Widget Locker app Locked. Hope this helps also. And I think this should be in the Q&A Section.
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Try an app from the market called Watchdog. It is a really good app that lets you real time see processes and cpu usage and it will alert you on thresh holds of over usage. You can individually kill those processes which may be inadvertently over using your phone and eating up your battery. Task killers just blanketly kill apps and processes. Some of which restart right back up chewing up you cpu and also wasting precious battery. So doing this continuously will just overwork and kill your usage time on the phone. If you precisely pinpoint the app causing issues you can leave the phone to manage the application as it is designed to do and also you may notice other regularly used apps opening quicker and more responsive. Give it a try and keep us posted.
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+1, well said.
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I think it's in the right section (Themes & Apps).
Hi guys,
Since the AOSP ICS builds I noticed that when the Phone app is not in memory it opens very slow. The next time you open it is almost instant. I thought that it would be fixed in the OTA, and even if it is a little faster it is still quite frustrating sometimes. Tried many roms/kernels and even if in some configurations it open faster, it is still slow.
Since I dont use the Phone that much, almost every time that I use it it is not in the memory and it is slow. Anyone has an idea to fix it, like a hack to make it persistent in the memory?
Thanks.
Bump. Is there a way to keep it in memory ? Maybe giving it a special permission like the launcher will help. I will take a look...
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This is my only problem with ICS - I've tried a few memory management programs to see if I could keep the dialer, or contacts, persistent in memory, but nothing works. When I launch the dialer, the application 'Contacts' ('com.android.contacts', which seems to be the new ICS 'People' app) is shown as an 'active application' in my 'SystemPanel' app off the Market, and as long as that stays as an active app then the dialer usually re-launches straight away when pressed the next time, sometimes with only a small bit of lag if the screen has been of for a minute or two. When the 'contacts' app is shut down by the system, I guess when you open other apps up that need memory, the dialer lags again.
All the time, the process 'Phone' ('com.android.phone') seem to be sitting there as an 'Internal System Process' and seems to be persistent, but that alone doesn't make the dialer launch quickly, the 'contacts' app needs to be active as well.
My observations, but I am not a techie.
actually i recently read a thread here on XDA that addressed this issue. it involved a command on the terminal that allowed you to prioritize certain apps. too bad i can't seem to find that thread anymore!
found it! it involves using the Renice command. you can run it as an init.d script
or demo it out using the prioritzer apk (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224125) kind thanks to this developer for creating the app. it works great!
all i did, was set the phone and contact app to -20 priority. it loads MUCH faster... try it and report back.
here are more links related to renice
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271637#17746874
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401858
Great, thanks for coming back on this, this sounds interesting - I'm not rooted at the moment, I will look into doing this as I think it would be worth it just to sort out this problem, as well as the other benefits. I will report back with my results!
I decided not to root in order to fix this, I've gone a different way with the dialer - exDialer has a polished looking ICS theme and I installed that to see how it would work, and it works great. It opens up consistently quicker, maybe due to the 'Keep in Memory' option that it has. I haven't had one laggy episode with it yet. Most other third party dialers don't look so good but this has a great ICS look, has smart dial, and a great call history function, and it's free (or you can donate as I did). Worth a look for anyone having similar problems.
I would still go back to the stock dialer if it worked properly, maybe a future update will solve this without having to root.
Hi guys,
an old thread, but i would like to now if there is something new about the "bug" that the Phone app opens slow if it is not in memory.
I'm new to the nexus s and running the newest skank Version.
On my Desire S the phone app opens much faster .
Cheers
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Hi guys,
an old thread, but i would like to now if there is something new about the "bug" that the Phone app opens slow if it is not in memory.
I'm new to the nexus s and running the newest skank Version.
On my Desire S the phone app opens much faster .
Cheers
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One thing to keep in mind is that the Desire S has more RAM.
Mine opens up instantly however. Have you rebooted after installing the rom?
I remember on GB it was instant! On ICS it is indeed very slow. Hopefully JB fixes it...
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I remember on GB it was instant! On ICS it is indeed very slow. Hopefully JB fixes it...
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That's funny because mine doesn't even take a second. :silly:
Same here if not in memory, i can easily notice certain lag on ics roms on my phone, when opening certain apps.
Yeah i did.
Hm Sounds like i have to live with it, or does someone have an alternative way to Set the priority for apps. The one mentioned earlier does Not work for me.
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Thanks for the suggestion to try exDialer. The phone lag was really irritating me and this did the trick. With ics dark theme, it's a perfect complement to bugles beast. Hopefully this will be fixed in 4.1, but till then ...
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Hello. My mate 8 keeps killing apps. Realistically this happens when the apps do not get started on start up at all or the all clear button is used for running apps and these apps to not get re started. I have looked at the permissions they have been given auto run permissions they have been given run in the background permissions they have been given battery optimization excuse meaning they're allowed to run no matter what the battery. They have also been given data usage permissions. Essentially these are apps such as the Tasker the locale app things that automate phone
If someone knows an automation app that is not murdered by this phone I'll just change apps
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Lol I actually don't mind this. Saves me so much battery for apps like Facebook
Yes but it turns a smart phone into a paper weight. A very expensive one. I can do better with a lesser battery life
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Hello. My mate 8 keeps killing apps. Realistically this happens when the apps do not get started on start up at all or the all clear button is used for running apps and these apps to not get re started. I have looked at the permissions they have been given auto run permissions they have been given run in the background permissions they have been given battery optimization excuse meaning they're allowed to run no matter what the battery. They have also been given data usage permissions. Essentially these are apps such as the Tasker the locale app things that automate phone
If someone knows an automation app that is not murdered by this phone I'll just change apps
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Yes but it turns a smart phone into a paper weight. A very expensive one. I can do better with a lesser battery life
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I notice the same. It was worse in NXT-L29C636B103 but seems to be better in NXT-L29C636B180 but some of my essential apps that work with automation like Situations and Silence Premium are not working properly at all.... need to find out how, all these apps I am talking about are already in "Protected Apps" and in "Ignore Battery Optimzations". That means, don't touch them and let them run its course because it needs to... and I command it so...
But internally, either EMUI 4 or Marshmallow 6 is ignoring these "whitelist" that they themselves implemented. I'm running debug logs with one of the developers of the apps I am having problems with... and he noticed instead of not touching the application, it is being "killed" and "restarted" all the time. Nooooo!!!
It is a nice feature for battery life.... but if you kill essential apps that the user has told you to not touch, then, that is way #[email protected]*!?*&
Additionally to the ignore optimizations, and Protected Apps in Battery Manager..
If you go to Settings -> Apps, then go into specific app you want..tap Battery...and you have options
- App Auto-Launch
- Keep running after screen off
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Additionally to the ignore optimizations, and Protected Apps in Battery Manager..
If you go to Settings -> Apps, then go into specific app you want..tap Battery...and you have options
- App Auto-Launch
- Keep running after screen off
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Each firmware version must be different? I only have Keep Awake... is on. I have no App Auto Start option???
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Each firmware version must be different? I only have Keep Awake... is on. I have no App Auto Start option???
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- What firmware version are you using? and is it full stock or one compiled by a dev?
- What app or apps are you having a problem with?
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dj69holland said:
- What firmware version are you using? and is it full stock or one compiled by a dev?
- What app or apps are you having a problem with?
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EMUI 4.0, NXT-L29C636B180, Stock F/W
Applications as follows:
Silence Premium
Situations
Ringo Pro
ReadIt To Me
any solution for this ? it's killing me ! my life is ruined because it's killing my alarm clock Xtreme.
EMUI 4.1, B320
L29
Same for me with my Bike applications !!
Grrr every 90 min average the apps is killed and i lose all my personal stat ! GRRRRR
Need help or I will kill this phone !!
Thanks
Same here with most important app like Facebook and Facebook Messenger
I get the solution from digging on web
Press the home hot key.press the options hot key(the one with three horizontal lines)task manager list will be opened will all the minimized appsjust SWIPE DOWN on the app you wanted to run in backgroundNow A lock symbol will be displayed on the app,which means that app is locked from killing by task manager.i.e your app will now run in background even after killing all the tasks in task manager.To reverse it(to unlock it or to prevent running it in background) press the home,then options hot key.. Now swipe that app UP..that lock symbol will be gone and you can kill it with task manager.
try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/help/kill-apk-t3492520
Install the apps you want running as a system app. They wont be killed.
xT29c said:
Install the apps you want running as a system app. They wont be killed.
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Previous solution provided dont work for me.
Apps is still killed after average 90 or 120 Minutes
What is the best way to install the apps as a system app ?
Thanks
Try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72374887&postcount=9
update: no, it does not work
already done and not working for me :/
Anyone with a solution for this??
guys, I have an issue here
mine is 6GB ram of 7 Pro
I open only two apps in background, when I switch to another app, the app just refreshed, meaning it was killed, why is that so?
Now I can't multitask because I can barely open few apps and keep it running in background
I'm on latest open beta 1 though
Even when I'm on stable OxygenOS I feel the same issue, anyone ?
Go to settings, developer option and running services
My system shows 3.6GB to around 4GB usage, so much ?
Ben Ling said:
guys, I have an issue here
mine is 6GB ram of 7 Pro
I open only two apps in background, when I switch to another app, the app just refreshed, meaning it was killed, why is that so?
Now I can't multitask because I can barely open few apps and keep it running in background
I'm on latest open beta 1 though
Even when I'm on stable OxygenOS I feel the same issue, anyone ?
Go to settings, developer option and running services
My system shows 3.6GB to around 4GB usage, so much ?
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Set the apps you want running to don't optimize.
Are you on Android Q?
Because there you have to give it some time to adapt to your usage pattern, so that it will make sure your apps are loaded when you usually use them. Worked good for me after a few days.
If you still want to turn off battery optimization:
1. Disable advanced optimization under battery settings.
2. Set your apps to "Don't optimize" in the battery settings.
3. Lock them in the recents menu.
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Set the apps you want running to don't optimize.
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hmm does not seem to work
Zocker1304 said:
Are you on Android Q?
Because there you have to give it some time to adapt to your usage pattern, so that it will make sure your apps are loaded when you usually use them. Worked good for me after a few days.
If you still want to turn off battery optimization:
1. Disable advanced optimization under battery settings.
2. Set your apps to "Don't optimize" in the battery settings.
3. Lock them in the recents menu.
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Yes I am on Android 10 latest Beta. Even when Im on stable Pie, same issue...
App will just get refreshed ,the app actually refreshed, meaning the app didnt go back to home page of the app but it refreshes that page, if I have some typings saved there, it refreshes and will not be saved...
Ben Ling said:
hmm does not seem to work
Yes I am on Android 10 latest Beta. Even when Im on stable Pie, same issue...
App will just get refreshed ,the app actually refreshed, meaning the app didnt go back to home page of the app but it refreshes that page, if I have some typings saved there, it refreshes and will not be saved...
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Hmmm that's weird, it does that Everytime? Maybe try a clean install and see if the issue persists if you have no other plans.
Zocker1304 said:
Hmmm that's weird, it does that Everytime? Maybe try a clean install and see if the issue persists if you have no other plans.
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Tried a full factory reset, same issue though, the app won't just keep in background and will be refreshed when I go back to the app I opened, background only few apps like FB Whatsapp IG etc
But I'm sure this is software issue and I wonder if anyone facing such problem ?
I have the same issue with my 6GB Varient.
Ben Ling said:
Tried a full factory reset, same issue though, the app won't just keep in background and will be refreshed when I go back to the app I opened, background only few apps like FB Whatsapp IG etc
But I'm sure this is software issue and I wonder if anyone facing such problem ?
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...ul-background-processes-to-save-battery-life/
Seen some hinting that adaptive battery might kill off some apps. Try disabling that
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Guys, I think I found the problem that causes this issue
I tried changing resolution from QHD to FHD and now my apps will stay in background. Tested few rounds and indeed QHD res will kill apps easily even few apps only but FHD can maintain many apps in background
But why though ?
I
Ben Ling said:
Guys, I think I found the problem that causes this issue
I tried changing resolution from QHD to FHD and now my apps will stay in background. Tested few rounds and indeed QHD res will kill apps easily even few apps only but FHD can maintain many apps in background
But why though ?
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Interesting. Testing now.
Found this. So far so good: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-notification-fix-works-100.3865551/post-79011366