Does anyone have any idea of how to set the Bing button to refer to google search? I feel the Bing search engine is not that so efficiency =P
I don't think its possible although the default search engine in IE can be changed.
Well, a custom ROM could change it, certainly. I'm not sure about a stock ROM. It requires either changing the search program itself (which is baked into ROM) or changing the command that the OS runs when you hit the button (which *might* not be hard-coded and therefore could possibly be changed with a registry tweak, for example).
You need bing to access bing vision and local scout.
If you want google, go to m.google.com and it will ask you if you want a tile on your start screen. Put it where you'll always see it and then you have a button.
I used to love google but nowadays i find it's stupid ranked advertisement coming up as part of my search and throwing me to the wrong places annoying. That and bing seems to be more accurate. Back a few years i would have felt the opposite.
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You need bing to access bing vision and local scout.
If you want google, go to m.google.com and it will ask you if you want a tile on your start screen. Put it where you'll always see it and then you have a button.
I used to love google but nowadays i find it's stupid ranked advertisement coming up as part of my search and throwing me to the wrong places annoying. That and bing seems to be more accurate. Back a few years i would have felt the opposite.
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when I go to m.google.com there 's no question or option asks me to add a tile on screen.
thanks for your comment, I think the 'key word' match searching system is different depend on regions & languages. and for now, i haven't suffered a lot from ads viewing google mobile.
I may prefer to use bing some time after. as said, every dog has its day.
lamborg said:
I don't think its possible although the default search engine in IE can be changed.
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how do u change the default search engine in IE
i didn't see that in the settings.
gloger said:
how do u change the default search engine in IE
i didn't see that in the settings.
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AFAIR it was a registry hack
If your ROM comes pre-configured for something other than Bing for searching in IE, there's now an official setting to change it. If it comes pre-configured for Bing, that setting is hidden. In either case, it's just a registry change. See the registry tweak thread.
gloger said:
how do u change the default search engine in IE
i didn't see that in the settings.
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Microsoft stated that changing the default IE search engine was a feature in Mango.
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GoodDayToDie said:
Well, a custom ROM could change it, certainly. I'm not sure about a stock ROM. It requires either changing the search program itself (which is baked into ROM) or changing the command that the OS runs when you hit the button (which *might* not be hard-coded and therefore could possibly be changed with a registry tweak, for example).
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Well, I'm "pretty sure" you can do this: but legitimately speaking - you could probably write an app that would start a background task that would catch every button press for the search button and then open up IE to google.com. Loading Google.com would of course, not be as fast as the preloaded bing screen, but the search results might be more effective. But theortetically, I'm fairly certain that you can do this. Efficiently speaking, this is probably not a very viable option. For starters, you'd have to set a LONG hold time for that background task. Another problem would be that the background task might shut down randomly so you'd probably have to frequently check if it was on/turn it on.
But point being, in theory - yes, you can.
Hello! When i use the Search Button on my HTC Trophy, it open "Call History". But i need the Bing Search. Can i chance it to Bing?
My Phone is Full Unlocked with Version 7.10.8773.98.
It's a "feature" of the ROM. Sometimes it can be changed without flashing a new ROM, sometimes it can't. You really need to read the descriptions of ROMs closely before flashing them; full-unlock is far from the only change that people make.
do you know PWPD Tweaks? With that app you can change it maybe. You can find that app on Bazaar
hi you can use the SearchKey.xap... with this app you can change your search button to a searchpage that you like...
Hello! I found this:
"This is a tip on how to change searchkey
With registry editor navigate to key
[HKLM\Software\OEM\WebSearchOverride]
and change the value of
"ActionType"=3
to 6
This will set searchkey to Bing (default action)"
In my Registry it was 3 and i chance in 6. Restart my Phone and Bing works now.
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XIP: 21041
SYS: 21042
PocketIE: 21043
http://justkitchen.info/JustROMs/
Current Build: JustStable - Final
For more information about my ROMs, you can visit: http://thewingster.com/ivanmmj.aspx
This is to keep track of the bugs in the ROM. So far, I've squashed most of the bugs I've noticed but I just ported a whole new build, so there might be all new bugs to deal with.
Current Reported Bugs:
Themes are missing
Lack of Splash theme
Fix the double click to choose weather on HTCHome
Fixed Reported Bugs:
Change the "Browser Choice" to only the Wing keyboard shortcut and not the the Opera shortcut. Remove it and the Mortscipts from the Herald builds (as it is no longer needed without that Browser Choice
Removed proxy hack that was causing problems with HTCHome's weather.
Cabs won't delete now.
Fixed the VGA screens. Now they're QVGA again.
Suggestions:
Use older version of ArcSoft.
Update version of Jbed.
Remove ICS Control
Go back to the old task icons. Or at least change the Edge icon.
Add notepad with open with.
Add HTC Audio Manager
Yes Ivan your Back. Looking Forward to this rom.
Ivan if we ever get android running on our wings, you should be the one who makes JustEMPTY...lol a super duper clean rom made for running android
P.S. You should join the chatroom hotnsteamy once in a while.
I've thought about it... I can easily make a SUPER crippled ROM with nothing but just what you need to boot android and I can easily make it hook and autorun android.
Nice Rom Ivan
Hey Ivan -- downloaded and using your JustHacked14v3_-_LZX_Wing_Edition.7z and I love it! Very fast, Very Stable.
4/5/09
Yay nice to see something new from you =]] Cant wait =]]
Awesome! I would switch. Running Just2Clean right now, and love it (other than randomly losing 2mb of memory every hour) lolz.
Can't wait!
I'd probably use it. Much like you, I too have noticed that just about every newer ROM has some sort of quirk with it. Sometimes big, sometimes almost unnoticeable. Most are tolerable, but other times you'll run into a ROM where MMS doesn't work at all, or where threaded messaging doesn't work, or the State Menu has an intrusive white block in it, or where the volume control bugs out, or where the preinstalled version of Jbed is unstable, etcetera. It would be nice to have a ROM that is wholly bug free, but I would imagine that it would be hard since I assume that's a goal of just about all chefs.
I'm interested ivan, will be waiting! Thanks!
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I'd probably use it. Much like you, I too have noticed that just about every newer ROM has some sort of quirk with it. Sometimes big, sometimes almost unnoticeable. Most are tolerable, but other times you'll run into a ROM where MMS doesn't work at all, or where threaded messaging doesn't work, or the State Menu has an intrusive white block in it, or where the volume control bugs out, or where the preinstalled version of Jbed is unstable, etcetera. It would be nice to have a ROM that is wholly bug free, but I would imagine that it would be hard since I assume that's a goal of just about all chefs.
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Well, the good thing is that my ROMs are smaller and therefore, there is less stuff to go wrong, and I can focus all my attention on making the smaller set of features work properly. ^_^
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I've thought about it... I can easily make a SUPER crippled ROM with nothing but just what you need to boot android and I can easily make it hook and autorun android.
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yes this is in the near future...even though i have a G1 I would love to run android on my wing. Auto run android!!
But I also want to beta test JustStable so ivan I officially made myself your beta tester.
Very Interested
Have been running your other ROMs for a while would love to try out the JustStable
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There are a few bugs here and there that just bug me so I have decided to build a new ROM. Something more updated than my older ROMs but stable and with the apps that I use. If and when I finish it, I might release it here if anyone is interested.
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I'm interested. Here's the flexibility I've been looking for. Fairly minimal, clean ROM, but with optimization that could allow me to add/install and run beautifully the following:
(what I'd call my "Personal Configuration")
(a) TouchFlo 2D interface
(b) M2DC customizer for TouchFlo
or
(c) iFonz -- since there will be a completely new release in March, and possibly widgets, so it may become again my favorite navigation tool.
Also, for me must-haves, or I can add these and still get optimal performance:
(d) Large Windows Start Menu, as well as all other menus (this was done in Microlab's (PDAViet's) latest Herald ROM), and I shouted "finally! Hallelujah"
(e) WkTask (in English) -- or some other simple, single-action "close this, switch to this" Task Manager ...vs all the multi-columned default stuff that takes 3 steps to do anything.
(f) the latest Total Commander (ideally, I would want this to replace the limited-value "File Explorer" as the defult
(g) S2U2
(h) a way more decent default dialer -- ideally like supbro's iDialer -- (and even more ideally with every single trace of Windows miniature default interface revised for finger-touch control)
*** Of all the annoyances of a Windows Mobile phone, from my first T-Mobile MDA, thru my current T-Mobile WING, it has been the terrible user experience of simply calling people, and answering the phone when people call me. Between the lack of detection for when phone is to ear to lock all functions and prevent accidental touch-screen activations); to the pathetically byzantine way of simply ADDING A CONTACT, and providing the MOST USED FIELDS *first*, like Name, work phone, home phone, mobile, without having to use a microscope or scroll way down to find a field; to the totally inconsistent methods of EDITING a contact depending on which screen you're on in the interface; the inexplicable confusion of an incoming caller "Save to Contacts" function that then makes you press "new contact" or "blank contact" whatever it is -- instead of "just frikkin add it as it came across with caller ID, and I can edit it later"... when you add all of this together, it's a stoneage experience of using a phone. If Microsft fixed nothing else, except the phone/contacts/history entire interface, they'd eat into iPhone sales.
(i) Something I would really really love: The ability to get WIndows "Pictures and Video" Folder to go to a designated folder I choose for where I store photos, vs every time taking me to Device > My Documents > My Photos, making me then select "Storage Card", then Storage Card again because Windows assume you want to use their multi-layered file-pathing... That would make me 2nd most happy, after having "phone that just works".
(j) Single-tap WIFI ON- WIFI OFF "program link"-- i have to always add a cab file that does this
(k) OperaMini, with that script that opens the javabed and the app built in as the DEFAULT browser. Honestly, I wish I never ever ever had to use IE, but alas I am forced to for various functions even after setting a default browser.
THINGS I WOULD PREFER BE REMOVED WITHIN ROM:
(a) Games. I can add them if I want
(b) Windows Media Player. Seems almost everyone uses HTC's Audio Manager..... (Me, I am liking much more the newer "Nitrogen" player) ... But I would much prefer Audio Manager as default, and WMP availa as a cab file if someone really wants it.
FURTHER THINGS I THINK OF AS REQUIRED, but others have different preferences:
(a) PCM keyboard, with decent selection of skins built in... I think one of the best ever is from "2many" or "2manyphones", but there are several that are large enough for finger-tapping.
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Everyone has their fav's, but I am answering with this detail because I have no idea right now which ROMS can best support and provide me this configuration that I deem, for me, to be Minimally Required. Right now I am using thanhy25's new herald 6.1 ROM touchflo 2D... which has most of what I want, and a bunch of stuff I don't want.
I hope this is useful, ivan. Can you tell me re: your CURRENT ROM LINEUP, is this more or less accurate as to the OBJECTIVES of your Roms?
(1) Just2Clean -- for people who have very particular needs or want to having nothing other than what they put on their phones
(2) Just For Me (Just Me?") -- not really a ROM, but a ROM Kitchen that helps people build onto a base ROM, their own catalog of favorite apps etc.
so, "Just Stable" would be WHAT, relative to the 2 above?
Thank you ---
Go go Ivan, eveyone would love to use your rom.
quicksite said:
(a) TouchFlo 2D interface
(b) M2DC customizer for TouchFlo
or
(c) iFonz -- since there will be a completely new release in March, and possibly widgets, so it may become again my favorite navigation tool.
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I don't particularly like M2D because of its bugs when relating to landscape support. iFonz, I never really used.
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(d) Large Windows Start Menu, as well as all other menus (this was done in Microlab's (PDAViet's) latest Herald ROM), and I shouted "finally! Hallelujah"
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Definitively, a must have.
quicksite said:
(e) WkTask (in English) -- or some other simple, single-action "close this, switch to this" Task Manager ...vs all the multi-columned default stuff that takes 3 steps to do anything.
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Haven't used it, how's the memory usage on it? Looks pretty useful.
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(f) the latest Total Commander (ideally, I would want this to replace the limited-value "File Explorer" as the defult
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MUST have, but replacing the built-in one isn't always an option, we will see.
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(g) S2U2
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How's the ram usage these days? S2U2 has always been a memory hungry app.
quicksite said:
(h) a way more decent default dialer -- ideally like supbro's iDialer -- (and even more ideally with every single trace of Windows miniature default interface revised for finger-touch control)
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The dialer is the main reason why I decided to cook again, so I'm open to ideas. I had a modified dialer that looked great but had more bugs that I could count and it was driving me insane. I'm going to try subbro's iDialer and see how I like it.
quicksite said:
*** Of all the annoyances of a Windows Mobile phone, from my first T-Mobile MDA, thru my current T-Mobile WING, it has been the terrible user experience of simply calling people, and answering the phone when people call me. Between the lack of detection for when phone is to ear to lock all functions and prevent accidental touch-screen activations); to the pathetically byzantine way of simply ADDING A CONTACT, and providing the MOST USED FIELDS *first*, like Name, work phone, home phone, mobile, without having to use a microscope or scroll way down to find a field; to the totally inconsistent methods of EDITING a contact depending on which screen you're on in the interface; the inexplicable confusion of an incoming caller "Save to Contacts" function that then makes you press "new contact" or "blank contact" whatever it is -- instead of "just frikkin add it as it came across with caller ID, and I can edit it later"... when you add all of this together, it's a stoneage experience of using a phone. If Microsft fixed nothing else, except the phone/contacts/history entire interface, they'd eat into iPhone sales.
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Unfortunately, this is all built-in code, so unless you know of a contact app replaacement that can do this well, I would to write an app from scratch to do so.
quicksite said:
(i) Something I would really really love: The ability to get WIndows "Pictures and Video" Folder to go to a designated folder I choose for where I store photos, vs every time taking me to Device > My Documents > My Photos, making me then select "Storage Card", then Storage Card again because Windows assume you want to use their multi-layered file-pathing... That would make me 2nd most happy, after having "phone that just works".
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Good idea, I'll have to do some research on this one.
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(j) Single-tap WIFI ON- WIFI OFF "program link"-- i have to always add a cab file that does this
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You mean like a shortcut in the program menu instead of the comm manager? Or do you mean instead of a double click the first time to initiate the driver? (Which I can fix at the cost of some RAM.)
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(k) OperaMini, with that script that opens the javabed and the app built in as the DEFAULT browser. Honestly, I wish I never ever ever had to use IE, but alas I am forced to for various functions even after setting a default browser.
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That's one of my unreleased ROM's features. When you press the "IE" shortcut on the keyboard of the Wing and the HTC Atlas, it opens up OperaMini. The only thing is that it doesn't take in links to sites, it errors out on them. This might still be doable.
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THINGS I WOULD PREFER BE REMOVED WITHIN ROM:
(a) Games. I can add them if I want
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All my ROMs lack games built in. They're a waste of space for a lot of people.
quicksite said:
(b) Windows Media Player. Seems almost everyone uses HTC's Audio Manager..... (Me, I am liking much more the newer "Nitrogen" player) ... But I would much prefer Audio Manager as default, and WMP availa as a cab file if someone really wants it.
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WMP is required for the ring tones to work properly. If I can figure out where the dependencies come from, this might be doable.
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(a) PCM keyboard, with decent selection of skins built in... I think one of the best ever is from "2many" or "2manyphones", but there are several that are large enough for finger-tapping.
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Unfortunately, the author of all the PCM software does not like cooks using his software in ROMs that are released to the wild...
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Everyone has their fav's, but I am answering with this detail because I have no idea right now which ROMS can best support and provide me this configuration that I deem, for me, to be Minimally Required. Right now I am using thanhy25's new herald 6.1 ROM touchflo 2D... which has most of what I want, and a bunch of stuff I don't want.
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It was good info, though.
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I hope this is useful, ivan. Can you tell me re: your CURRENT ROM LINEUP, is this more or less accurate as to the OBJECTIVES of your Roms?
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Sure thing.
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(1) Just2Clean -- for people who have very particular needs or want to having nothing other than what they put on their phones
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Stripped down to only install what you want and need.
quicksite said:
(2) Just For Me (Just Me?") -- not really a ROM, but a ROM Kitchen that helps people build onto a base ROM, their own catalog of favorite apps etc.
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Even more stripped down but instead of providing various versions, I provided a whole kitchen for people to make their own versions.
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so, "Just Stable" would be WHAT, relative to the 2 above?
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Just as the name says, stability is the key. I want something usable, stable, lacking of bugs and that I won't be annoyed with. One major example is the contact issue you mentioned, I also find it annoying.
Wow - something I rarely see at XDA! Thorough replies; thank you. Since this is just a wish list, there's one other annoyance: I'd like to have a shortcut link to "Remove Programs", so I don't have to dig into Settings > System > to get it. And a cherry on top would be a layperson's access to any setting control to make it a shortcut link, like Backlight for example. If I'm not mistaken, this capability is partially there in Quick Menu -- another app I love, but it wouldn't make the cut for a minimal ROM.
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I don't particularly like M2D because of its bugs when relating to landscape support. iFonz, I never really used.
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Understood. Besides, people are all picky about their fav app launcher.
WkTask (in English) -- or some other simple, single-action "close this, switch to this" Task Manager ...vs all the multi-columned default stuff that takes 3 steps to do anything. Haven't used it, how's the memory usage on it? Looks pretty useful.
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I am not technical enough to know. I can only go by how efficient it is to have 5 icons to the right of the Windows Start icon, indicating 5 apps open, and maybe they are Total Commander, OperaMini, iContact, Notes, and my music player -- and to switch apps i tap on the icon; instant change. If I tap and hold, a context menu comes up (like a normal right-click), and i can close that app, or set prefs for that app -- such as "always hide this app" etc. It's also got a slidable adjuster of the total width of the open-apps icons showing, with a "continued" right-arrow appearing when you move to the left cutting off any icon (very Windows task-bar-like). Sorry I don't have a tangible answer, but I'll shoot a video clip of my using it so you can see its responsiveness.
(f) the latest Total Commander (ideally, I would want this to replace the limited-value "File Explorer" as the defult
MUST have, but replacing the built-in one isn't always an option, we will see.
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Yeah, that was just another cherry on top dream. I just remove it from my start-menu shortcuts so i don't have to even see it.
(g) S2U2 . How's the ram usage these days? S2U2 has always been a memory hungry app.
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Here's an indicator, PDAviet (Microlab's) latest ROM chose S2U2 v. 1_18 which you can see on A_C's change log it's pretty far down the list of recent versions.
(h) a way more decent default dialer -- ideally like supbro's iDialer -- The dialer is the main reason why I decided to cook again, so I'm open to ideas. I had a modified dialer that looked great but had more bugs that I could count and it was driving me insane. I'm going to try supbro's iDialer and see how I like it.
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Worth noting is that Supbro's got some pretty tight integration now with iContact + iDialer, they both call each other, and he's also added now "Green Button", which, like hard-button remapping apps, assigns iDialer to the Green Call button, which makes for some pretty seamlessintegration. And his iDialer works perfectly with the other strain of iContact, Burt's Edition. What I've had to do, as my best workaround solution for the Windows built in dialer, to handle all the in-call functions, is use this: Snachez's "iPhydle" skin atop Paul De Groot's Minimal Dialer -- which seems to me to be a replacement dialer. But when I asked Supbro a month or so ago, he said "Paul's Minimal Dialer is not a true replacement dialer, but rather just a skin. That's not the read Paul's post, but again, I'm not a coder so .... ??
(and even more ideally with every single trace of Windows miniature default interface revised for finger-touch control)
Unfortunately, this is all built-in code, so unless you know of a contact app replacement that can do this well, I would (have) to write an app from scratch to do so.
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I've never seen any replacement app that handles "add new contact" and all those pieces. Why hasn't HTC written one? They're slowly but surely replacing usage of many Windows Mobile apps, but that's beyond my pay-grade to understand.
the ability to get Windows "Pictures and Video" Folder to go to a designated folder I choose for where I store photos, vs every time taking me to Device > My Documents > My Photos, making me then select "Storage Card", then Storage Card again because Windows assumes you want to use their multi-layered file-pathing... Good idea, I'll have to do some research on this one.
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Does HTC's "Album" solve that in their implementation? A_C has been steadily improving "S2V" (slide to view), but it doesn't alleviate that Windows problem, and i'm guessing it's too bloated for your lean standards. ... A related note: in "Microlab's" (PDAviet's) latest ROM, he's added a control setting that lets users assign which folder S2U2 should go to for Wallpapers, so he's somehow broken apart one of the setting controls A_C uses within both S2U2 and S2V... and the photo folder selector functionality is some subset of A_C's S2V app, but as far as I know, Microlab has not cooked in the whole S2V app. All of which is just my speculations that those 2 people would be good sources for code solution ideas. I don't know how freely people share code, but i know that's a core value of XDA, and I know for fact that A_C and Supbro collaborate and share solutions. Not sure this is helpful, but just trying to compile all I know of "what's out there right now".
You mean like a shortcut in the program menu instead of the comm manager? Or do you mean instead of a double click the first time to initiate the driver? (Which I can fix at the cost of some RAM.)
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Either in shortcut menu, or a dedicated icon/link for those who use app launchers (I would use it in TouchFLO or ifonz). There's a cab called AE Wifi Trigger which accomplishes this perfectly. It switches on WIFI, (some people complain "but it notifies you, I don't like notifications"...) and then promptly pops up the wireless networks found in range. Tap it again and it turns wifi off. Honestly, if I were information-designing Windows Mobile, I'd have ditched the Comm Manager long time ago, replacing it with the single function applets that just do what you want without drilling down, then having to select, then having to open settings. For joining a wifi network, that's 4-actions to accomplish what this particular trigger does in 1-tap. (Reminder to self: please refrain from bashing MS)
(k) OperaMini, with that script that opens the javabed and the app built in as the DEFAULT browser. Honestly, I wish I never ever ever had to use IE, but alas I am forced to for various functions even after setting a default browser.That's one of my unreleased ROM's features. When you press the "IE" shortcut on the keyboard of the Wing and the HTC Atlas, it opens up OperaMini.
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That sounds great!
The only thing is that it doesn't take in links to sites, it errors out on them. This might still be doable.
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I'm not clear what you mean. Are you referring to OperaMini's inability to launch a "Favorite" at the Windows OS level, and have it go to that site?
WMP is required for the ring tones to work properly. If I can figure out where the dependencies come from, this might be doable.
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I see. I didn't think of that
Unfortunately, the author of all the PCM software does not like cooks using his software in ROMs that are released to the wild...
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I respect that. installing as a cab works fine anyway, for me. ... But speaking of PCM, I forgot who his "competitor" is for finger-controllable calendar -- the people who make "ThumbCal"... That app now has a fee, right? I do like it, and *some* kind of calendar is essential. Too bad once again MS hasn't done anything to improve theirs in years, if ever.
I so look forward to what you cook up. Thanks for being patient with verbose style. Most of the Herald people tell me to get to the point.
oh, one last thing: Not sure you consider Google Maps essential or not. But about a month ago Google released "My Maps" for their mobile app, replicating most functions of the desktop web version -- but only for Android so far. But this is cool -- The Developer Project Lead for the whole Google Maps line lives in my neighborhood, and she was telling me she was hopeful that people would use the API to port versions of the Android version of "My Maps" to Windows Mobile. I told her about XDA-dev and she was thrilled with the prospect of someone at XDA dev porting it to Windows Mobile. And as a footnote to a footnote, the designer of the G1 phone also is in my neighborhood; he was responsible for the Android user interface as well as aspects of the T-Mobile phone design as well. Just in case anyone reading here is part of the team at XDA seeking to port Android to Wing.
Can't wait!
Sounds great! I will try it! Shure!
P.S.: of course I would like to see a kitchen of this rom Just a Joke!
Status Update:
So far, I've got the following running FAST and Stable:
XIP: 20924
SYS: 19588.1.1.2 (I'm having some problems porting the 20924 SYS.)
Once I get the SYS properly ported and the OS 100% stable, I'll start working on the little details. So far, I did replace the dialer for something more stable. The new dialer has a easier "add to contants" on it, too.
That's excellent news! I was wondering where you'd gone, then it hit me. "He went to work on it". that's great re an improved way to "add new contact" from a phone call interface.
Good luck on the project!
Hi,
Version 1.3 was released and also published on Android Market on 2011-07-03 - you can grab it here or from links below. The main change is fixing UpdateEntriesService which stayed running in certain cases and used up memory.
ZLaunchy was written mainly for those who like the way HTC and other third party dialers allows searching for contacts in a T9-like way - so that finding Adam means choosing 2326 in the phone application. ZLaunchy uses the same idea to run programs on your device. What it does is gives you a dialer keypad and when you type in a series of digits, it searches for all programs that match - for example to start Internet, start typing 4683 - Internet should show up in the result list.
In order to search for a particular text as beginning of words, type the specified digits - for example 4683 to find Internet. In order to search for specified letter(s) not only at beginning of words, add "1" at the end - for example 7371 will find Opera.
This application is free.
Changes in 1.3 release:
Fixed bug that caused UpdateEntriesService service not to stop after a successful update
This bug caused service to remain in memory and consume memory. Happened when "refresh items when inactive" was disabled/enabled.
Reworked logging mechanism
Reworked logging and cleaned up some of internals related to troubleshooting; should speed up the application a bit
Changes in 1.2 release:
Changes in contact handling to improve handling for certain devices
We have changed how ZLaunchy retrieves contacts, which should help support for some devices - users who had issues with contacts should try out the new version
Added option to always show menu when selecting a contact from list
It is now possible to choose whether ZLaunchy will open contact details or show a menu to select commonly used actions
As usual, you can download ZLaunchy from Android Market and our website.
Changes in 1.1 release:
Search in contacts' email address and telephone numbers and application's package name
QWERTY search for devices with physical keyboard
Ability to dial number
"0" button added on the on-screen keypad
Application details can now be shown on all Android versions
Preferences for global settings and profiles - you can now configure searching only for contacts, applications or both
Better APK install/uninstall integration
Download link: https://market.android.com/details?id=org.endorser.zlaunchy and http://www.endorser.org/en/downloads/android/zlaunchy
The idea is great, the app works well and faster then I expected 10/10
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Just an update - the main feature of 1.0 is ability to search contacts and bind to long press search button.
wow i used to have this feature in some old keyocera phone i had and i missed that feature since..
thanks alotttt
I like it better then go contacts nice work bro
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Simple and Good
Great application, and really fast.
If they can find also phone numbers will be great
6277 Will show you Maps and also all contacts with a 6277XXXXX phone number.
Good work, 5 stars for you!
Recognized the name straight away good to see is now available for android, cooked into WM ROM i'll have to test later, thx again
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Great application, and really fast.
If they can find also phone numbers will be great
6277 Will show you Maps and also all contacts with a 6277XXXXX phone number.
Good work, 5 stars for you!
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Ditto...would be great to include contacts in the search.
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Ditto...would be great to include contacts in the search.
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It does - searches both phone numbers and names. If you want to search for part of phone number (i.e. 6277 in +486277XXXXX) - just add 1 at the end.
great app! works fast, looks simplistic and clean, and definitely useful...
although i wonder where to find the 0... searching for numbers could get tricky without being able to type the zero.
and i couldn't figure out what the prev and next buttons do. since i have a desire s without any trackball i can just assume that's sort of a trackball-action, but in my case not functioning. any hint on that?
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great app! works fast, looks simplistic and clean, and definitely useful...
although i wonder where to find the 0... searching for numbers could get tricky without being able to type the zero.
and i couldn't figure out what the prev and next buttons do. since i have a desire s without any trackball i can just assume that's sort of a trackball-action, but in my case not functioning. any hint on that?
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Initially it was only meant for searching apps - so I didn't think of 0. I also want it to allow dialing a number in 1.1 so 0 will be added for sure.
As for next/prev, it was meant to choose profiles (i.e. apps, contacts, specific folders, combination of these), but it's not done yet. So maybe it'll be changed to 0 and profiles button.
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I have some force close like 20 seconds after searching for an app.
Otherwise I am very happy to find this program, I loved it in Wm!
Nice! Just what I've been looking for. I use Launchy on windows and linux and this is just perfect.
Oh and I have an idea for improvement:
Apps/Contacts launched more often should get an increased weight so they show up on top. Like when you type at least X % of the App name, but there are like 10 others that match the searchstring, the results should be sorted based on their weight.
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I have some force close like 20 seconds after searching for an app.
Otherwise I am very happy to find this program, I loved it in Wm!
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Can you send a report about it? Then I'll see the stack trace and hopefully know more about it.
Thanks.
wojciechka said:
Can you send a report about it? Then I'll see the stack trace and hopefully know more about it.
Thanks.
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I apologize. It was related to my android rom, not your software.
Very snappy program, I am highly impressed!
As a long time user of Find and Run Robot, I would be using ZLauncher all the time if you were to implement filtering by typing with the physical keyboard. That would make this an absoultely killer app for me. I totally understand if you prefer to keep this T9 only though
Oh and it doesn't seem to respect the fact that I disabled auto-rotate (Desire Z running CM7)
This is an awesome program, love it. Finding myself using this more that the App Draw. Great stuff!
I can;t find any contacts using this app, it only displays applications
Hi,
First of all - good news - 1.1 should be out next week. There are still some bugs to clean up, but it is progressing really good.
Here's some text about it:
http://www.endorser.org/blog/mobile/android/50-zlaunchy-1-1
Also, be sure to follow us on Twitter - @EndorserOrg.
And Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/endorserorg/243303242940
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Oh and I have an idea for improvement:
Apps/Contacts launched more often should get an increased weight so they show up on top. Like when you type at least X % of the App name, but there are like 10 others that match the searchstring, the results should be sorted based on their weight.
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That would be cool, definitely want to do this, but not in 1.1. Who knows - maybe 1.2...
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Very snappy program, I am highly impressed!
As a long time user of Find and Run Robot, I would be using ZLauncher all the time if you were to implement filtering by typing with the physical keyboard. That would make this an absoultely killer app for me. I totally understand if you prefer to keep this T9 only though
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Yes, it's also on my radar. Will be done for 1.1.
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Oh and it doesn't seem to respect the fact that I disabled auto-rotate (Desire Z running CM7)
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Yes, a bug in layout - also will be fixed in 1.1.
I am very stoked for this new release, it sounds like it'll be really great. Thank you for making this.
As for the feature KeauHou suggested, the previously-mentioned FARR implements this very well so you could take a look at the kind of algorithms it uses if you feel like it.
Hello there.
First, i'm not trolling.. I just want to be sure i'm not msising anything here.
I've been using Mango for a while, and with some mango updated apps here. Like Gchat, Tasks, Wonder Reader.. Well, I noticed something:
The multitask just works when you use the back button. So if you go to another app, come back to home and open it in tiles, it will reload the whole app instead of resuming. Seriously?!
Or is this an option to developers?
Please, tell me i'm wrong. I love WP7 too much to handle a glitch like this ;/
Thank you guys.
I would say this is up to the developer. There's a resume hack that exists in NoDo, which requires editing one of the app's XML's.
Resumable XAP Tool v0.1 Release
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I would say this is up to the developer. There's a resume hack that exists in NoDo, which requires editing one of the app's XML's.
Resumable XAP Tool v0.1 Release
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Yeah, but resuming apps just works when you use fast switch or back button. Not in home opening the app..
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Yeah, but resuming apps just works when you use fast switch or back button. Not in home opening the app..
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From the home you just open another instance of the same app ..you are not multitasking ...
If an app let you open multiply instances of its self (the app) its have nothing to do with multitasking.
And by the way i like the title of your thread !!!!! Really ???? Most of the mobile industry agree that the WP7 multitasking its one of the best ...
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From the home you just open another instance of the same app ..you are not multitasking ...
If an app let you open multiply instances of its self (the app) its have nothing to do with multitasking.
And by the way i like the title of your thread !!!!! Really ???? Most of the mobile industry agree that the WP7 multitasking its one of the best ...
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But it has to do with the way it's coded or the system does that automatically? Because, seriously, I dont see where it's better than just re-open the same instance that is already opened. Takes much more time.
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But it has to do with the way it's coded or the system does that automatically? Because, seriously, I dont see where it's better than just re-open the same instance that is already opened. Takes much more time.
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Its app related ...Some apps they do let you open more that one instance ...some other they dont
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But it has to do with the way it's coded or the system does that automatically? Because, seriously, I dont see where it's better than just re-open the same instance that is already opened. Takes much more time.
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I think that the motivation behind that is that most users wont actively multitask with more than 2-3 apps at a time, and for that holding the back button will suffice just fine. For most users there's better to go to a new instance instead of returning to the old one when they've spent a long time doing something else, and mostly I agree with this.
As smarthphone user (and developer for HTC Charmer few years ago) since 2003, I must agree. I'm really disapointed with WP7 parody to multitasking. Hope things will go better when Nokia reveals their WP devices and more users will force MS to relook their policy.
Cracking this and breaking through this system is currently nonsense - you can only lost excellent WP7 stability and performance. This step must come from core MS developers...
Hope they started WP7 the same way as they did in case of Windows 7 - they started to use "tiny core" minwin architecture which is highly modular. In windows 8, minwin kernel idea is pushed further and it can only be better. This modular core architecture allows them to add major functions without need of complete rewriting the code. WP8 could be a really great system if its handled this way
I wish multitasking was option, as you can turn it off and on via settings. I rarely if ever use it. Its pretty annoying how it works.
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There's a difference between third party apps versus the first party apps provided by Microsoft.
First party apps can have multiple entries in the app switcher (One example is the Messaging app where you'll see multiple chat sessions in the back stack).
Third party apps can only have one entry in the app switcher list at any one time. If you have a third party app in the back stack and you start a new instance of it by tapping on its main or secondary app tile, the previous instance of the app is removed from the back stack. So even if an app has multiple entry points (such as if it has more than one tile pinned on the Start screen), it'll only ever appear once in the app switcher. As far as I know, there is no way for a dev to change this behavior.
And it's true that opening an app via its tile will start a new instance, and this is the opposite of what iOS does. I've already described it in some detail here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17171504&postcount=5
Since Mango and iOS are the only 2 major phone OS's that do fast app switching, I'd have to agree that Mango's implementation is worse than iOS's.
(Not to be picky, but this is technically not "multitasking". Multitasking on Windows Phone involves the use of background agents. And IMO it has a better multitasking API than iOS because it has periodic agents that can be scheduled.)
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There's a difference between third party apps versus the first party apps provided by Microsoft.
First party apps can have multiple entries in the app switcher (One example is the Messaging app where you'll see multiple chat sessions in the back stack).
Third party apps can only have one entry in the app switcher list at any one time. If you have a third party app in the back stack and you start a new instance of it by tapping on its main or secondary app tile, the previous instance of the app is removed from the back stack. So even if an app has multiple entry points (such as if it has more than one tile pinned on the Start screen), it'll only ever appear once in the app switcher. As far as I know, there is no way for a dev to change this behavior.
And it's true that opening an app via its tile will start a new instance, and this is the opposite of what iOS does. I've already described it in some detail here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17171504&postcount=5
Since Mango and iOS are the only 2 major phone OS's that do fast app switching, I'd have to agree that Mango's implementation is worse than iOS's.
(Not to be picky, but this is technically not "multitasking". Multitasking on Windows Phone involves the use of background agents. And IMO it has a better multitasking API than iOS because it has periodic agents that can be scheduled.)
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I couldnt find that post, and thought no one answered. Glad to see you did. Yes, it helped a lot. I really love this OS, but forcing me to use back button instead of just resuming the app is lame.
Most of users just want it to be fast. Dont care about how they close, or how they open it. Me included. MS could just change it, using the same API as now. Opening in tiles resume the instance. Way faster for most of users.
Now I'm going to try to get used to it. Or just go back to iOS, unfortunately.
Hi all,
Thanks in advance for answering some questions I have.
I've watched a ton of vids, done a pretty good amount of research so far, but still have a few unanswered questions about WP7.5. I will be looking at getting a Lumia 800 as that's what my carrier is offering in Canada. I'm sick of Android being flaky due to the fragmented ecosystem and am looking forward to the 'closed' nature of WP7.5 - I just want it to work. Period.
So, on to the Qs:
Can you enable a number row over the QWERTY keys on the keyboard? Alternatively, can you long-press those keys to pop up the numbers, even if they don't show?
Can you go into the settings to force the phone app to start with the dialpad as opposed to the call log/history?
Like in Smart Keyboard on android, does the first suggested word in the suggestions when typing get auto-selected when you hit the spacebar?
Are there alternative apps for StumbleUpon or Feedly available? (I couldn't find them, but I use these 2 apps reasonably often) Suggestions for similar, if no?
Functionality of the phone in Canada vs US? (ie which functions don't work: Local Scout, Bing Vision, Music search, etc etc)
Is there any quick way to change settings without having to pin them all to your home screen?
Can you make the calendar app start with Agenda view?
Thanks, I'll add more if I think of them.
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>> Can you enable a number row over the QWERTY keys on the keyboard? Alternatively, can you long-press those keys to pop up the numbers, even if they don't show?
There is a Key which shows up all the numbers and other characters but its not like a popup and no long press.
>>Can you go into the settings to force the phone app to start with the dialpad as opposed to the call log/history?
Nope but there are apps which are purely number pads you can use.
>>Like in Smart Keyboard on android, does the first suggested word in the suggestions when typing get auto-selected when you hit the spacebar?
No, You need to tap and select the word.
>>Are there alternative apps for StumbleUpon or Feedly available? (I couldn't find them, but I use these 2 apps reasonably often) Suggestions for similar, if no?
Functionality of the phone in Canada vs US? (ie which functions don't work: Local Scout, Bing Vision, Music search, etc etc)
No Idea on then but what do you use Feedly for ?
>> Is there any quick way to change settings without having to pin them all to your home screen?
You need to use the shortcut apps for that.
>> Can you make the calendar app start with Agenda view?
No
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You need to use the shortcut apps for that.
>> Can you make the calendar app start with Agenda view?
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WRONG!
It remember the last view you were in. if you leave in agenda view, when you go back, that is the view you will see 1st.
@ROCOAFZ Never Knew that so thanks a ton for that.
>>Like in Smart Keyboard on android, does the first suggested word in the suggestions when typing get auto-selected when you hit the spacebar?
No, You need to tap and select the word.
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Thats not true, it does auto select and use it.
Been using WP from sometime but not sure how this works if at all possible.
Like when I type HAV it shows me Have but when I hit spacebar, it does not auto complete but adds a space.
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Thats not true, it does auto select and use it.
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There are some words that it will auto fill in but they have to be the only possible thing you would be typing in context with the sentence. Most words have to be chosen from bar right above the text. (i like it this way)
No problem on the agenda view. Mine is always in that view so that's what i always see
1: To add to what others have said, you can tap-and-slide to add just a single number or punctuation in one motion. From the standard keyboard, put your finger down on the number/punctuation mode key, slide it to the number or punctuation you want (the keyboard will temporarily switch modes when you touch the key initially), and release. The key your finger was on (in the alternate mode) will be typed, but the keyboard will be in the original mode. Very handy.
Alternatively, you can add some registry values that will create press-and-hold options for the top keys to have numbers. I added a press-and-hold list to my comma key; sometimes it's a lot nicer than switching modes even briefly! (I use a lot of semicolons.)
3: For some reason, nobody has mentioned this yet. If the phone will auto-correct (including auto-complete), then the suggested word/completion will be bold. Pressing the Spacebar when there's a bolded suggestion will use that suggestion automatically.
If none of the suggestions are bold (because what you typed is already a valid word, or because it isn't sure what you meant to type), then you can tap on a suggestion to use it. The phone does have a setting to automatically add a space after you do this.
4: There's an app that comes up when you search for StumbleUpon, based on keyword match (it's not actually a stumbleupon app, but it targets the same kind of user). I haven't tried it (but then, I don't use SU either).
5: Vision and Music Search should both work just fine (they're not locale based at all, so far as I know). Scout... I think it works in Canada? I've never tried (I live close to the border, but not *that* close, and international data costs money so I always have it disabled). I assume Zune Pass and Directions both work as well, and those are the other two locale-sensitive features I can think of that might care.
6: Not really, but how often do you need to mess with settings? There are some apps that let you quickly reach the ones you use most often, or let you quickly reach ones that are normally a few levels deep, but no one-tap toggles yet that I'm aware of.
However, I really don't find it required to enter settings much at all. See a new WiFi network? The phone will prompt you. You'll only save a very small amount of power by leaving WiFi off when not in use; the phone is very good at putting it in a power-saving mode. I almost never need to touch any of the other settings.
Didn't notice the bold... good post ... i'm always learning something new in Windows phone
Google is Google for people like me... and Microsoft acting like the bully it is does not provide by default an option to search google.com... it has also made it quite difficult to add this addon and run it normally so here we go...
In short: extract and add attached entry to your registry editor by simply double clicking it and check "search from address bar" under search providers in the ie10 desktop versions addon menu
Long:
1. Download the attached reg file and extract its contents to your surface... double click to run it. Accept all warnings and it should add an entry to the registry editor.
2. Go to your metro style internet explorer and find a small tool icon beside the address bar (appears after a page has fully loaded), hit it and select "view on the desktop"
3. If your desktop version of internet explorer has opened, on the right top there will be a tool icon, select it and click "manage addons"
4. Go to "search providers" entry and select google. It will say "not available" etc but disregard it and look for a checkbox called "search in the address bar" - check it. + don't forget to select Bing and click the "remove" button that will appear on the bottom right of the window.
Click apply/close...
Now whenever on ie, Google will remain your light to the web!
Enjoy!
Microsoft acting like bully?
I'd rather stay away from the ad-shoving company that does not respect your privacy. Which is the whole purpose of making Chrome (no third party cookies have ever been blocked) unlike Safari (blocks all), FF (most), IE10 (most third party including default Do Not Track D.N.T header)
HOWEVER..
back on the topic, its always good to have choices.. depending on one's preference
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Chrome (no third party cookies have ever been blocked)
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SRWare iron then.
you really believe microsoft respects your privacy any more than google? lol thats the best joke i have heard all yesterday maybe all year
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you really believe microsoft respects your privacy any more than google? lol thats the best joke i have heard all yesterday maybe all year
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i was able to add google as the default search on my RT no problem. just changed the default search provider in desktop IE and it applied to Metro IE as well. absolutely no need for registry edits.
settings --> add ons --> search providers --> add more search providers --> download google and set as default. easy as can be
Thanks bro... Really hate using bing...
cheers buddy
Or hell, just visit google.com and use their "add this search provider" link (plus click the "make this provider the default" box) and you're good.
Alternatively, open IE10 on the desktop, click the little down-arrow next to the search icon (magnifying glass) in the address bar, and select "Add" (alternate way to get to the same UI as described above).
This has been possible, with only minor UI changes, on all versions of IE since at least 7 (I have repressed all memory of using IE6).