Google increases the app size limit for Android Market to 4GB. - Android General

Google increases
the app size limit
for Android Market
to 4GB
06 MARCH, 2012
Developers for Android have had to work
around the crippling 50MB file size limit for a long time now. To take care of this
problem, many developer devised an idea where you first download a small
application from the Android Market and upon launching it will download the rest
of the files from the developer's server.
This came with its own set of problems.
The user would not be aware of the total size of the app before downloading it.You were also often unable to refund an
up, because by the time the additional data got downloaded, the 15 minute refund period for the app would be over.
To take care of this situation, Google has now finally increased the total application size limit to 4GB for the Android Market.
But it's a bit different than the way things work on, say, the App Store, for example.The total apk size for the Android Market is still 50MB but now the developer can have two additional expansion files that
can be 2GB each in size. The developer can store these expansion files on Google's servers instead of their own and they will get downloaded along with the apk file. Also, the user will be made aware of the final size of the app beforedownloading it.
One of the advantages of having this system is that when the time comes to update the app, the user won't have to download the entire thing again. Although the developers are free to use the expansion files whichever way they like,Google is advising them to use one of the expansion files to host all the importantdata and the other for updating
purposes. This way, when the app needs to be updated, the developer can only modify the second expansion file and the user will only have to download it instead of the entire 4GB application all over again. Think of it as being similar to the delta updates available on iOS.Of course, the user won't have to worry about or even know about these things
and the process or purchasing or
updating will remain identical. All of this expansion files business will happen
behind the scenes.
The advantage of using this method instead of the aforementioned method
currently being employed by the
developers is that the Android Market
allows downloads to run in the
background and will even let you pause
and resume the download. You can use
Wi-Fi or 3G to download these large apps
but if you use Wi-Fi and you move out of
coverage the download will automatically
be paused.
Hopefully, the developers will take to this new way of distributing large apps, which should make the lives of the users a bit easier.
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good news particularly for Unity developers.

Sounds good, should make the game downloading experience better.

Yup.....TX

could this be for the Google play tablet that is rumoured ? Google increasing the limit to add more games in market before the launch for Google play tablet so that when it comes out Google can be assured that people will have games to play on it. It seems that Google did this for Google play tablet only.

It shall stop the pirated apps also
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Just read an article about Mika Mobile stopping Android development.
One of their complaints was that even through the app limit has been upped to 4GB, it still means 50MB apps but now Google will host the downloads. So it is an improvement but still not perfect.
Personally I'm quite happy with the limits since it should prevent bloatware.

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[Q] Large apps updates?

Hey guys, i was just wondering about those large apps and games that are 150mb+ like the Harvest. When they decide to update the app, will they be able to release small updates to the app or will we have to download the 150mb each time to update the entire app?
this might be a dumb question but i was just curious...
i'm pretty sure it will be a full update. i don't believe the app is broken up into small peices that can be individually updated. i believe it's one huge app.
I agree with The Gate Keeper. When updating an app, I have to repackage the entire XAP file, regardless of what's changed, and I don't it's any different with large apps.
I wouldn't mind the larger apps so much if I could download them directly to my phone and at&t had better data plans. Even though it says that apps over 20mb can be downloaded by computer or WiFi, it is only WiFi. So I would rather they be smaller.
you can't really do much about that to be honest. the app is the app, if it's big it's either a game, or full of features that would most likely require it to be that big. to be honest, i've never encountered any app that is bigger than 20mb when not including games.

Minus (App) Better than dropbox

This app in my humble opinion is better than dropbox, ADrive, and others that probe that I can not remember.
for starters, you sign the easiest way and without confirmation, the system is completely free and never have to do upgrade by cost.
Input give you 10 gigs of space in the cloud, you get 1 gig extra friend you invite, reaching maximum 50 gigabytes.
From what I like most is that you can upload a single file of 1 gigabyte.
It is easy to use and share those files can do public or private.
The public can comment and like. can be partners and friends, go to a user or anyone to follow.
For this and more they recommend.
the link: http://min.us/rxWcpu
In my case I had to activate proxy to download files to my speed. If you want me to check my Public folders can be searched as: kazutoaoi
free version doesn't support Android.
There seems to be loads of cloud storage popping up everywhere nowadays
Id much rather use a reputable one, Like dropbox, google drive, microsoft skydive (i think thats what its called ?)
I dont really fancy uploading precious photo's / documents to some homemade cloud storage server
also, android is google, everything i use is google, i like the whole idea of everything being together as one
google will rule the world one day !!
esmund said:
free version doesn't support Android.
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Why you say that? I use android on my N7000. First I register and then turn it down on my cel from the app store gogle play. works 100%
The app is completely free. Not exist, the paid version
azzledazzle said:
There seems to be loads of cloud storage popping up everywhere nowadays
Id much rather use a reputable one, Like dropbox, google drive, microsoft skydive (i think thats what its called ?)
I dont really fancy uploading precious photo's / documents to some homemade cloud storage server
also, android is google, everything i use is google, i like the whole idea of everything being together as one
google will rule the world one day !!
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Competition forces companies to keep innovating. Competition is good. I'll give this a go and see how it stacks up
Too low download speed
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I agree with what azzledazzle said.
I don't want to upload important data to newer / lesser known cloud storage.
I already have Google Drive (use it to store important data, weekly reports etc) and Box and Drop Box : use it to share data.
Boy124 said:
I agree with what azzledazzle said.
I don't want to upload important data to newer / lesser known cloud storage.
I already have Google Drive (use it to store important data, weekly reports etc) and Box and Drop Box : use it to share data.
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Some people actually do not use online storage for sensitive data. I'm uploading old videos right now, they take up a lot of space so this is pretty useful.
Please click my referral link so I get more storage!
http://min.us/rqKmkbT
Kanto.nn said:
Too low download speed
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In my case I had to activate proxy (settings / proxy) to download files to my full speed. If you want me to check my Public folders can be searched as: kazutoaoi
I'm using Dropsync, and I have to say it's pretty awesome.
My folder pics http://kazutoaoi.minus.com/

Android apps installment

When comes to apps selection in google play, android is now catch up with apps store from ios. However when comes to apps installment, android still lagging behind. Small apps are not problems to install, but when comes to big apps like HD games it's big problem. For example like Real Racing 3. I saw this game in google play, i download it then start the app. The app demand to download the game data so i allowed it. The problem is while doing such task, my android device can't be used for another task. I really jealous when ios user can download every apps they need via itunes and then just sync with their devices to install it. Imagine if i have 2 android devices, and i want to install 1 app to those devices that i have to download twice to those devices. And yes, all my android devices are rooted so titanium backup is ready. But the problem is an app that can run in 1 device can't run in another device because some problem like different screen resolution or gpu or even brand.
I dont own any ios devices and i like android alot. Android devices history like horse power races. Each year all manufactures race to sell more powerfull phone to market, but somehow can't be utilized to maximum potent because of fragmentation.
Tl:dr : is there any way to install large app via pc
Sorry for bad english
Thx
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You can install apps on your phone using your computer by going to play.google.com. I haven't tried it with large apps but it works really well for small apps. You simply find the app, press install/buy and select which device it should be installed on.
You must be logged on your Google account for this to work.
That method only send order to download to your phone and the task to download is still done by the phone not the pc
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[Q] App data storage

Hi all,
I want to build an application for smartphones that will require a server to store all user's data. I know that companies like Facebook make use of giant server rooms but how does a normal average Joe save data of about 100 terabytes? I still need to develop the app and then only launch it with no source of income generated by the app for a long time, so to build giant server rooms cost a lot in the first place and then to maintain them with electricity and cooling also cost a lot, so how does one go about to launch an app that could potentially become pretty big but don't have the funds to store the data used by the app? I can start off by using let's say 5 terabytes, but then when it gets overloaded I will have to shut it down for above mentioned reasons?
Thanx
use free baas service
go google parse, firebase or quickblox

Scoped storage is good...but RESTRICTED Storage is better

Scoped storage introduced in Android 11 is good, but RESTRICTED Storage would be an even better option.
On Android, at the moment, apps that have access to internal storage for their own files, also have access to every other file in the system. This is not only a privacy risk, but also a security concern. With the introduction of Scoped Storage, some of that is being addressed. Yet, there is still scope for misuse if apps have malicious intent.
I would like to have a system where every app that needs access to a file must go through the built in file manager to prevent misuse. What that means is no app has permanent access to files that are not created by them, and can only access files each time with explicit user consent and interaction. This would completely address the privacy concerns with regards to files.
This is how the Files app in iOS is designed and is an extremely well thought out one. Let me illustrate with an example:
We all know how Facebook is notorious when it comes to privacy. Let's assume you have a Facebook account and the Facebook app is installed on your phone. If you want to share a picture on Facebook, you have to grant the app access to your internal storage. On Android, this effectively grants Facebook access to every file on your storage. Given the reputation, it won't be surprising if Facebook app scans all your pictures/ videos for its AI/ ML, or even uploads them without your knowledge.
On iOS, the permission screen looks like this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
You have the choice of either granting permanent access (Option 1), or limit the access to just the file(s) you want (Option 2). This permission can be set per app.
On Android, it is essentially Option 1 alone. You have to grant access to the entire file system for you to be able to upload your pics to Facebook.
On iOS, you have the choice of uploading just the pic you want, without giving the app access to any other file in your internal storage. This is a huge privacy boon.
In this case, Facebook app has to make a request to the built in file manager (which obviously has access to every file in the system), and you browse your media library using the built-in file manager (with which the built-in Photos app is integrated) to grant access. Facebook app sees absolutely nothing. It only makes a query, and everything else is handled by the built-in file manager. So even without granting blanket access, you are able to upload the file you want!
Same holds true for every app. An app should only have permanent access to its own files, and not any other file. For access to any other file, the app has to go through the built-in file manager route and access only the file that the user wants it to see.
Alternatively, ALL folders will be 'Restricted' by default. However, users will have the option to selectively relax the restrictions (per folder) for one or more apps (under folder properties) to give just those apps full access.
Hope Google (and custom ROM makers) can design something like this keeping in mind the privacy needs of its users, and the abusive intents of large corporations and malicious actors.
Here is an app that achieves the objective defined above:
Storage Isolation

			
				
Load trusted, vetted apps only; you are what you load. Don't allow apps to update; they may pass Playstore security only to update latter installing their payload. Firewall block all apps that don't need an internet to do their job. Most don't need access once activated.
Never load social media or shopping apps on the device, they are malware and an ongoing high security risk. If the social media site can't be fully logged onto and accessed by browser, ditch it.
Nothing can protect you from yourself, actions have consequences.
blackhawk said:
Load trusted, vetted apps only; you are what you load. Don't allow apps to update; they may pass Playstore security only to update latter installing their payload. Firewall block all apps that don't need an internet to do their job. Most don't need access once activated.
Never load social media or shopping apps on the device, they are malware and an ongoing high security risk. If the social media site can't be fully logged onto and accessed by browser, ditch it.
Nothing can protect you from yourself, actions have consequences.
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The implementation suggested above would address privacy concerns related to user files and I'm not sure why Google hasn't yet done so.
Buying a smartphone and limiting it's usability severely as you say isn't practical.
TheMystic said:
The implementation suggested above would address privacy concerns related to user files and I'm not sure why Google hasn't yet done so.
Buying a smartphone and limiting it's usability severely as you say isn't practical.
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Why has Google or Samsung not integrated a native firewall to Android? I use Karma Firewall, it uses almost no battery. Unfortunately it's valuable logging feature doesn't work on Android 10 and higher. Works fine with Pie though. I have apps like the 6yo free version of WPS office that wouldn't load on 11, pleasantly surprised it loaded on 10. It has no drop in replacement today that's not cloud or free. I simply firewall block it so it doesn't want to update to the current paid version. Doesn't effect usability.
What Google did with scoped storage kills a lot of useful and trusted apps while giving a false sense of security. Hackers never sleep and will always find workarounds to get your data.
Google is one of the worst data miners and purveyors of disinformation, trust them?
blackhawk said:
Why has Google or Samsung not integrated a native firewall to Android? I use Karma Firewall, it uses almost no battery. Unfortunately it's valuable logging feature doesn't work on Android 10 and higher. Works fine with Pie though. I have apps like the 6yo free version of WPS office that wouldn't load on 11, pleasantly surprised it loaded on 10. It has no drop in replacement today that's not cloud or free. I simply firewall block it so it doesn't want to update to the current paid version. Doesn't effect usability.
What Google did with scoped storage kills a lot of useful and trusted apps while giving a false sense of security. Hackers never sleep and will always find workarounds to get your data.
Google is one of the worst data miners and purveyors of disinformation, trust them?
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This is why I prefer Oxygen OS, Colour OS and MiUI, all of which offer a native firewall within their OS. Since OOS 12, Oxygen OS is now showing a popup everytime a blocked app is launched. This is extremely annoying.
Karma Firewall appears to be an abandoned project with no update. It isn't working properly on Android 12 and newer. Netguard is currently the best.
Giving the user ability to setup which folders/ files each app can access would greatly enhance privacy. Scoped Storage is a half baked implementation, even though something is better than nothing. The implementation suggested above will address many of the current shortcomings.
Nothing is foolproof or failsafe. But bringing in improvements is always welcome.
Google may be the biggest data miner, but unfortunately their apps and services do not have competing alternatives. Users have to make lots of compromises when choosing alternatives.
The other reason I prefer Google/ Microsoft apps is because they help me be platform independent, since their apps are also available on iOS, Windows and Mac.
Mind sharing that cloud free version of WPS?
TheMystic said:
This is why I prefer Oxygen OS, Colour OS and MiUI, all of which offer a native firewall within their OS. Since OOS 12, Oxygen OS is now showing a popup everytime a blocked app is launched. This is extremely annoying.
Karma Firewall appears to be an abandoned project with no update. It isn't working properly on Android 12 and newer. Netguard is currently the best.
Giving the user ability to setup which folders/ files each app can access would greatly enhance privacy. Scoped Storage is a half baked implementation, even though something is better than nothing. The implementation suggested above will address many of the current shortcomings.
Nothing is foolproof or failsafe. But bringing in improvements is always welcome.
Google may be the biggest data miner, but unfortunately their apps and services do not have competing alternatives. Users have to make lots of compromises when choosing alternatives.
The other reason I prefer Google/ Microsoft apps is because they help me be platform independent, since their apps are also available on iOS, Windows and Mac.
Mind sharing that cloud free version of WPS?
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Developers come and go. Karma Firewall is great app. After what Google did with scoped stoirage I don't blame them for bailing.
I have nothing against added security per se but it should be an option if it causes loss of functionality or uses resources. Knox is another one I hate. Gmail is the only Google app I regularly use. All my apps are backed up as installable copies on the data drive so no Playstore needed to reload. Completely self contained and self sufficient.
Make sure you firewall block it. It may not load on 11 or higher. To save docs you may have to play with it a bit but it will create, modify and save Word (doc x too) documents. More versions are found on APKmirror. About 81.37mb installed.
blackhawk said:
Developers come and go. Karma Firewall is great app. After what Google did with scoped stoirage I don't blame them for bailing.
I have nothing against added security per se but it should be an option if it causes loss of functionality or uses resources. Knox is another one I hate. Gmail is the only Google app I regularly use. All my apps are backed up as installable copies on the data drive so no Playstore needed to reload. Completely self contained and self sufficient.
Make sure you firewall block it. It may not load on 11 or higher. To save docs you may have to play with it a bit but it will create, modify and save Word (doc x too) documents. More versions are found on APKmirror. About 81.37mb installed.
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I was using Karma, until it stopped working reliably. So went back to Netguard which is really good, and with some very useful feature not available in Karma.
Where do you install new apps from? APK backups help in going back to an older version. But for newer versions, you need Google Play Store, unless you are happy with apkmirror or similar.
I have a MS 365 subscription, so this is just a backup of a clean version of WPS, whose newer version destroys all context menus by showing up everywhere. I wish Android provided a way to customise context menus as well as share menus.
Thanks for the apk though.
TheMystic said:
I was using Karma, until it stopped working reliably. So went back to Netguard which is really good, and with some very useful feature not available in Karma.
Where do you install new apps from? APK backups help in going back to an older version. But for newer versions, you need Google Play Store, unless you are happy with apkmirror or similar.
I have a MS 365 subscription, so this is just a backup of a clean version of WPS, whose newer version destroys all context menus by showing up everywhere. I wish Android provided a way to customise context menus as well as share menus.
Thanks for the apk though.
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That's one reason this N10+ is still running on Pie. I've been wanting to try out netguard.
Rarely from Playstore. I try not to same apps as they can potentially damage the system or worse. Some of my copies date back 6 years, most 2-3, many over the years from Playstore. They run well. Playstore also uses battery, every bit counts.
I do a few side loads that are always scanned with online Virustotal. If they look even a little iffy I don't install them. I use F-Droid too. No issues with the side loaded apps, yet...
You're welcome. I get tired of renting apps and a capable office app is absolutely essential.
blackhawk said:
That's one reason this N10+ is still running on Pie. I've been wanting to try out netguard.
Rarely from Playstore. I try not to same apps as they can potentially damage the system or worse. Some of my copies date back 6 years, most 2-3, many over the years from Playstore. They run well. Playstore also uses battery, every bit counts.
I do a few side loads that are always scanned with online Virustotal. If they look even a little iffy I don't install them. I use F-Droid too. No issues with the side loaded apps, yet...
You're welcome. I get tired of renting apps and a capable office app is absolutely essential.
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Netguard is very good, actually much better than Karma (it will reactivate itself if the OS kills it, automatically blocks new apps, etc). The one very good thing about Karma is that it has no internet permissions. But Netguard says it doesn't collect any data or track anything.
Personally, i prefer to have the latest versions of both OS and apps, so I'm surprised that you are not updating the OS just to use an app, especially when a better alternative is already available.
I too have sideloaded a few apps (after checking them on VirusTotal), but i stick with Google Play Store mostly. It is rare that an update breaks something or takes away a useful feature, so this works for me. Besides, i do keep a backup of the important APKs with me, should it be required.
TheMystic said:
Netguard is very good, actually much better than Karma (it will reactivate itself if the OS kills it, automatically blocks new apps, etc). The one very good thing about Karma is that it has no internet permissions. But Netguard says it doesn't collect any data or track anything.
Personally, i prefer to have the latest versions of both OS and apps, so I'm surprised that you are not updating the OS just to use an app, especially when a better alternative is already available.
I too have sideloaded a few apps (after checking them on VirusTotal), but i stick with Google Play Store mostly. It is rare that an update breaks something or takes away a useful feature, so this works for me. Besides, i do keep a backup of the important APKs with me, should it be required.
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Rule #1 - if an OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades/updates can and do break things. It's mostly all play time with this old load. No surprises, it just runs. I spent a lot of time optimizing it and changing the firmware or updating apps changes my manicured playing field into a sinkhole of trouble.
Android 11, 12, and 13 bring nothing I want to the table and are trying to steal the silverware. Google seeks to stay relevant like the lame big sister it is. Their improvements don't make my device run better or even any more secure but they do waste my time. Plus I don't like the way it looks. It's the smell.
TheMystic said:
Scoped storage introduced in Android 11 is good, but RESTRICTED Storage would be an even better option.
On Android, at the moment, apps that have access to internal storage for their own files, also have access to every other file in the system. This is not only a privacy risk, but also a security concern. With the introduction of Scoped Storage, some of that is being addressed. Yet, there is still scope for misuse if apps have malicious intent.
I would like to have a system where every app that needs access to a file must go through the built in file manager to prevent misuse. What that means is no app has permanent access to files that are not created by them, and can only access files each time with explicit user consent and interaction. This would completely address the privacy concerns with regards to files.
This is how the Files app in iOS is designed and is an extremely well thought out one. Let me illustrate with an example:
We all know how Facebook is notorious when it comes to privacy. Let's assume you have a Facebook account and the Facebook app is installed on your phone. If you want to share a picture on Facebook, you have to grant the app access to your internal storage. On Android, this effectively grants Facebook access to every file on your storage. Given the reputation, it won't be surprising if Facebook app scans all your pictures/ videos for its AI/ ML, or even uploads them without your knowledge.
On iOS, the permission screen looks like this:
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You have the choice of either granting permanent access (Option 1), or limit the access to just the file(s) you want (Option 2). This permission can be set per app.
On Android, it is essentially Option 1 alone. You have to grant access to the entire file system for you to be able to upload your pics to Facebook.
On iOS, you have the choice of uploading just the pic you want, without giving the app access to any other file in your internal storage. This is a huge privacy boon.
In this case, Facebook app has to make a request to the built in file manager (which obviously has access to every file in the system), and you browse your media library using the built-in file manager (with which the built-in Photos app is integrated) to grant access. Facebook app sees absolutely nothing. It only makes a query, and everything else is handled by the built-in file manager. So even without granting blanket access, you are able to upload the file you want!
Same holds true for every app. An app should only have permanent access to its own files, and not any other file. For access to any other file, the app has to go through the built-in file manager route and access only the file that the user wants it to see.
Alternatively, ALL folders will be 'Restricted' by default. However, users will have the option to selectively relax the restrictions (per folder) for one or more apps (under folder properties) to give just those apps full access.
Hope Google (and custom ROM makers) can design something like this keeping in mind the privacy needs of its users, and the abusive intents of large corporations and malicious actors.
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So lol
blackhawk said:
Rule #1 - if an OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades/updates can and do break things. It's mostly all play time with this old load. No surprises, it just runs. I spent a lot of time optimizing it and changing the firmware or updating apps changes my manicured playing field into a sinkhole of trouble.
Android 11, 12, and 13 bring nothing I want to the table and are trying to steal the silverware. Google seeks to stay relevant like the lame big sister it is. Their improvements don't make my device run better or even any more secure but they do waste my time. Plus I don't like the way it looks. It's the smell.
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Updates also bring in security improvements, along with the excitement of new and improved features. I always install them when available, with very rare exceptions.
Ideally, they shouldn't require users to make any changes to their setup, and that has also largely been my personal experience.
TheMystic said:
Updates also bring in security improvements, along with the excitement of new and improved features. I always install them when available, with very rare exceptions.
Ideally, they shouldn't require users to make any changes to their setup, and that has also largely been my personal experience.
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Unfortunately that is more marketing hype than fact. One reason I run this N10+ on Pie with no updates is to test that statement. This 3yo device and firmware is a cleaner running and a more capable device than the S22U. How can that be? Poor design from both Samsung and Google Android.
I use to always buy new cars, but I learned better and the folly of my ways 25 years ago as new car quality steadily declined. Now Android is reminding me of that bs. For over a $1G it better out perform my N10+ in every especially with SOT and storage. It should be lighter and slimmer. Yes, well...
blackhawk said:
Unfortunately that is more marketing hype than fact. One reason I run this N10+ on Pie with no updates is to test that statement. This 3yo device and firmware is a cleaner running and a more capable device than the S22U. How can that be? Poor design from both Samsung and Google Android.
I use to always buy new cars, but I learned better and the folly of my ways 25 years ago as new car quality steadily declined. Now Android is reminding me of that bs. For over a $1G it better out perform my N10+ in every especially with SOT and storage. It should be lighter and slimmer. Yes, well...
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There are definitive improvements in hardware: CPU, GPU, RAM, Storage, etc. And most importantly the Cameras. The cameras on the S22U are really very good.
I don't have too many complaints with this device, except for the recent battery drain which I hope to solve.
I don't agree with your used car statement, unless you buy one from someone you know has taken care of it very well. Newer cars are definitely more safe than the old cars, both in terms of material used and in terms of safety features. Lighter alloys can be stronger and safer than heavier metals, so don't go by how strong a material feels.
But it is also true that companies are increasingly designing products that would fail within a certain time period, and this applies to gadgets, consumer durables, components used, etc.
It comes down to your experience over the useful life of the product that the company designs them for. And this is the area where newer products usually excel.
TheMystic said:
There are definitive improvements in hardware: CPU, GPU, RAM, Storage, etc. And most importantly the Cameras. The cameras on the S22U are really very good.
I don't have too many complaints with this device, except for the recent battery drain which I hope to solve.
I don't agree with your used car statement, unless you buy one from someone you know has taken care of it very well. Newer cars are definitely more safe than the old cars, both in terms of material used and in terms of safety features. Lighter alloys can be stronger and safer than heavier metals, so don't go by how strong a material feels.
But it is also true that companies are increasingly designing products that would fail within a certain time period, and this applies to gadgets, consumer durables, components used, etc.
It comes down to your experience over the useful life of the product that the company designs them for. And this is the area where newer products usually excel.
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The SOC is faster, has better bandwidth and is more capable as is the ram, but is only marginally faster by milliseconds for most tasks.
The battery is huge but it gets significantly less SOT
The display can run brighter, but because of variable refresh rate it lacks the color/gamma accuracy/calibration of the N10+. It's pixels will suffer if used at higher brightness levels, they aren't immune to that.
No expandable storage means no 1tb dual (data) drive and no onboard redundancy. 5G isn't as useful as it was hyped up to be in practice and is less efficient for many tasks. It's still power hungry even today.
Its all about balance, functionality and form factor, something Samsung has forgotten how to do. They are completely hype driven now and their insanity is showing. The components look like great but the result doesn't equal the sum of the parts. It even doesn't exceed the N10+/Pie is some important specs.
The N10+ running on Pie is snappy fast, get great SOT/screen off times, has maybe the best display there is in terms of color accuracy etc, more storage that doesn't get wiped in a crash or factory reset. It's a powerful but well balanced device that's a reliable joy to use and weighs 30gms less. The N10+ is also cool running, I can use it for web browsing at 98F ambient for hours with no cooling without it overheating. Upper operating range is 102F ambient at which point I either cool it or stop using it.
Steel is still the best crash material for absorbing massive amounts of impact energy and maintaining it's integrity. I take a 89 Volvo 240 wagon in a crash of any type vs a newer car.
Even has no damage 5 mph impact no damage bumpers. Rock solid, reliable, easy to work on and gets at least 20 mpg no matter how you drive it. Best of all they're easy and fun to drive.
Or
A 89 F-250 Super Suspension 4×2 with a International naturally aspirated diesel with a C6. Fast off the line, minimum 20 mpg.
TheMystic said:
I would like to have a system where every app that needs access to a file must go through the built in file manager to prevent misuse. What that means is no app has permanent access to files that are not created by them, and can only access files each time with explicit user consent and interaction. This would completely address the privacy concerns with regards to files.
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Glad to note that this is finally coming on Android 14.
I had made a post on this in Oct'20, and it is almost 2.5 years since then. Better late than never.

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