[Q] Kindle Fire and Kindle Water - General Questions and Answers

So I found this app today and was thrilled at it's potential simplicity (read: Noob Heaven) but after following all of the steps three times I still find myself booting into the stock Fire OS.
Anyone else having this issue?

Yes, I have an issue. This does absolutely nothing. I took a whole day to weigh the pros and cons of rooting and what I would do if it all went wrong. Good joke. Absolutely nothing happened.

Just my luck...
It turned out that my hellish 12 hours trying to get things going with their programme exposed errors in their code so I was the sacrificial lamb. I wound up following another method that I found on this site.

Kindlewater is a root tool, not a new OS
feroxcvpiditas said:
So I found this app today and was thrilled at it's potential simplicity (read: Noob Heaven) but after following all of the steps three times I still find myself booting into the stock Fire OS.
Anyone else having this issue?
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Hi, I've rooted with kindlewater on my mac. At first I thought nothing had happened because I didn't reboot once it was complete.
If you reboot, you will see the firefirefire logo come up, and it tells you to press the power button until it turns orange, whereby the CWM recovery program, which is the program you will use to install an Android SDK (the new OS you were expecting) or run backups or install other .zip files among many other tasks.
-> if you do not press the power button while the firefirefire logo is displayed, the kindlefire will boot into the regular stock OS.
The yellow triangle with a flame in the middle (like a road sign spelling "caution: ") is the firefirefire bootloader's logo. Wait a few seconds, the firefirefire logo goes away and is replaced by the animated words "Kindle Fire" and it then boots normally.​-> If you do, it will boot into CWM recovery and the screen will be all black with red text and a hierarchical, touch-navigable menu structure.
The kindlewater app is not intended (as far as I can see) to actually install alternate OS options for you. It is meant to "root" your device, or in other words, give you superuser permissions such that you are permitted to make permanent system changes to your device.
To summarize: The visible change to your kindlefire after running kindlewater doesnt become visible until you reboot, at which point you will be able to see the change in the bootloader program.
Hope that helps!

sisterdelirious said:
Hi, I've rooted with kindlewater on my mac. At first I thought nothing had happened because I didn't reboot once it was complete.
If you reboot, you will see the firefirefire logo come up, and it tells you to press the power button until it turns orange, whereby the CWM recovery program, which is the program you will use to install an Android SDK (the new OS you were expecting) or run backups or install other .zip files among many other tasks.
-> if you do not press the power button while the firefirefire logo is displayed, the kindlefire will boot into the regular stock OS.
The yellow triangle with a flame in the middle (like a road sign spelling "caution: ") is the firefirefire bootloader's logo. Wait a few seconds, the firefirefire logo goes away and is replaced by the animated words "Kindle Fire" and it then boots normally.​-> If you do, it will boot into CWM recovery and the screen will be all black with red text and a hierarchical, touch-navigable menu structure.
The kindlewater app is not intended (as far as I can see) to actually install alternate OS options for you. It is meant to "root" your device, or in other words, give you superuser permissions such that you are permitted to make permanent system changes to your device.
To summarize: The visible change to your kindlefire after running kindlewater doesnt become visible until you reboot, at which point you will be able to see the change in the bootloader program.
Hope that helps!
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My issue was related to faulty code by the creators which we discovered during chats/emails which prompted them to correct and issue a new update. I opted for other methods that day as I didn't want to wait for their corrections.
Nonetheless, I'm sure others will appreciate your input and advice. Nice of you to take the time to detail it.

Hey guys... I just came across this thread... If you ever have questions email me! I'm willing to help! I see that it has been resolved but I would just like to add, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF IT DOESN'T WORK! That is the only way I can get it working!

When I buy a Kindle Fire with its latest Firmware from Amazon i think. Can I compleetly decripple this device so that I have something similar to the Samsung Tablet?

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How to know if your magic is truly bricked or only semi bricked.

I've had the great misfortune of bricking my phone within the first few hours of owning it. I should have known something was up, it wouldn't reboot when I changed the language to English, and I'd have to hard reset it (delete everything) and then let it load in Chinese again. Well, in an attempt to fix what I thought was a rom issue, I went through the song and dance of trying to root my phone.
I'm still not fully clear on how to do it, as it seems there's more to it than just what the tutorials say.
Anyway, like the title of this thread says, there's a pretty good way to figure out if your phone is really bricked, no need to ask or wonder anymore.
If your phone only boots to the htc magic screen (and then stops), and is unable to load bootloader, fastboot, usb connections, or anything else, it's bricked. 100%. You have to take it back. Don't bother searching the forums for the answer, I've wasted hours going through every related thread and trying every possible solution. Without the ability to access the fastboot screen, you're out of possibilities. Untill someone comes out with an unbricker which goes deeper than fastboot, there is absolutely no way to fix it.
A semi brick is much better on the other hand. There are plenty of ways to fix your phone, provided you're only semi bricked. I would define semi bricked as being able to enter fastboot, but being unable to boot the phone as normal. This can happen with a bad flash, or a mis step during a tutorial. I'm not exactly sure how easy it is to change a semi brick to a full brick, but my full bricking happened after semi bricking it while loading a new rom on it.
So. to summarize, if your phone WON'T go into the boot menu by pressing vol-down+power, you're in need of a new phone.
If you can still get into the boot menu, and access your phone through usb, you're ok, just get help (via a tutorial) before going any further, unless you're completely certain of what to do next.
Tis a shame to send a device, which is physically undamaged, to the digital graveyard. But such is life.
Caid.
444.
EDIT
on a side note, before my phone reset itself into it's endless loop of unloading, I noticed the screen flash an image of a box with what looked like a red arrow coming out of it. It was right in the center of the screen. This was in the recovery-RAv1.0H.img menu. What's that all about?
Did you try other key combinations such as Home+Power, or Back+Power?
I'm sorry but I think you're misunderstanding it all a little bit...
Caid444 said:
I've had the great misfortune of bricking my phone within the first few hours of owning it. I should have known something was up, it wouldn't reboot when I changed the language to English, and I'd have to hard reset it (delete everything) and then let it load in Chinese again. Well, in an attempt to fix what I thought was a rom issue, I went through the song and dance of trying to root my phone.
I'm still not fully clear on how to do it, as it seems there's more to it than just what the tutorials say.
Anyway, like the title of this thread says, there's a pretty good way to figure out if your phone is really bricked, no need to ask or wonder anymore.
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It's easy if you follow the guides... I did it in two different phones with no problem at all in any of them... Anyway, let's stay on topìc
Caid444 said:
If your phone only boots to the htc magic screen (and then stops), and is unable to load bootloader, fastboot, usb connections, or anything else, it's bricked. 100%. You have to take it back. Don't bother searching the forums for the answer, I've wasted hours going through every related thread and trying every possible solution. Without the ability to access the fastboot screen, you're out of possibilities. Untill someone comes out with an unbricker which goes deeper than fastboot, there is absolutely no way to fix it.
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Wrong. If your phone boots to the HTC Magic screen, the bootloader is doing it's job. The bootloader just takes you there. The linux kernel and ramdisk takes you to the boot animation, and there is where android really starts.
If your phone shows the first htc logo, or the Vodafone branded screen, you can start in bootloader mode. To make that you just have to remove the battery, put it back, and press and hold BACK + END KEY. From that, you can fastboot.
Also, and unless you destroyed the recovery partition, you can also boot in recovery mode, by pressing END KEY while holding HOME (no need to keep them both hold, just home button)
Caid444 said:
A semi brick is much better on the other hand. There are plenty of ways to fix your phone, provided you're only semi bricked. I would define semi bricked as being able to enter fastboot, but being unable to boot the phone as normal. This can happen with a bad flash, or a mis step during a tutorial. I'm not exactly sure how easy it is to change a semi brick to a full brick, but my full bricking happened after semi bricking it while loading a new rom on it.
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I would call a semi brick this:
Your phone goes into an endless loop while booting.
Your phone gets stucked on the first boot logo.
You can't get access to the recovery partition.
Your phone boots all the way but then gets stucked.
Your phone gone bad during a software update.
That, all, can be solved by reflashing the affected region. There are tutorials for everything but if you need I can write some hints on each case (I suffered them all ).
Caid444 said:
So. to summarize, if your phone WON'T go into the boot menu by pressing vol-down+power, you're in need of a new phone.
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Actually, VOLDOWN+POWER starts in Hboot mode. From there you can go back to fastboot mode, but hboot is used to make a software upgrade using complete images or running htc diagnostic images (SAPPDIAG.IMG, SAPP*.IMG /NBH).
Caid444 said:
If you can still get into the boot menu, and access your phone through usb, you're ok, just get help (via a tutorial) before going any further, unless you're completely certain of what to do next.
Tis a shame to send a device, which is physically undamaged, to the digital graveyard. But such is life.
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If you can't get USB working on fastboot mode, or on recovery mode, your phone has probably a hardware fault. It happened with some of the first revisions of the Vodafone branded magic, don't know about htc branded ones though..
NOTE: Not talking about missing drivers, if you don't have drivers, that's another problem, but the computer should at least detect the device. Also, if your phone is off, and you connect the charger (or usb) and the orange led lights up, the bootloader should be ok.
Caid444 said:
on a side note, before my phone reset itself into it's endless loop of unloading, I noticed the screen flash an image of a box with what looked like a red arrow coming out of it. It was right in the center of the screen. This was in the recovery-RAv1.0H.img menu. What's that all about?
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That's the recovery mode. With that you can unbrick your phone
Also, as another hint, if you're new to linux OSes, you might want to take a look at some manual on terminal commands. If your main software is bricked, it's possible that your SDCard doesn't get mounted on recovery mode, depending on wich recovery image you're running. Provided you have an update.zip on the sdcard you need to run, you might have to mount it manually.
To do that, you have to start the phone in recovery mode, and run an "adb shell" on the PC.
When you have a shell opened, you'll have to mount the sdcard manually:
mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard
Then, on the phone you can use the option to run sdcard update.zip to restart the software upgrade procedure.
Regards!
Before I reply, I'd just like to say thank you very much for your extremely in depth reply.
biktor_gj said:
I'm sorry but I think you're misunderstanding it all a little bit...
It's easy if you follow the guides... I did it in two different phones with no problem at all in any of them... Anyway, let's stay on topìc
Wrong. If your phone boots to the HTC Magic screen, the bootloader is doing it's job. The bootloader just takes you there. The linux kernel and ramdisk takes you to the boot animation, and there is where android really starts.
If your phone shows the first htc logo, or the Vodafone branded screen, you can start in bootloader mode. To make that you just have to remove the battery, put it back, and press and hold BACK + END KEY. From that, you can fastboot.
Also, and unless you destroyed the recovery partition, you can also boot in recovery mode, by pressing END KEY while holding HOME (no need to keep them both hold, just home button)
I would call a semi brick this:
Your phone goes into an endless loop while booting.
Your phone gets stucked on the first boot logo.
You can't get access to the recovery partition.
Your phone boots all the way but then gets stucked.
Your phone gone bad during a software update.
That, all, can be solved by reflashing the affected region. There are tutorials for everything but if you need I can write some hints on each case (I suffered them all ).
Actually, VOLDOWN+POWER starts in Hboot mode. From there you can go back to fastboot mode, but hboot is used to make a software upgrade using complete images or running htc diagnostic images (SAPPDIAG.IMG, SAPP*.IMG /NBH).
If you can't get USB working on fastboot mode, or on recovery mode, your phone has probably a hardware fault. It happened with some of the first revisions of the Vodafone branded magic, don't know about htc branded ones though..
NOTE: Not talking about missing drivers, if you don't have drivers, that's another problem, but the computer should at least detect the device. Also, if your phone is off, and you connect the charger (or usb) and the orange led lights up, the bootloader should be ok.
That's the recovery mode. With that you can unbrick your phone
Also, as another hint, if you're new to linux OSes, you might want to take a look at some manual on terminal commands. If your main software is bricked, it's possible that your SDCard doesn't get mounted on recovery mode, depending on wich recovery image you're running. Provided you have an update.zip on the sdcard you need to run, you might have to mount it manually.
To do that, you have to start the phone in recovery mode, and run an "adb shell" on the PC.
When you have a shell opened, you'll have to mount the sdcard manually:
mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard
Then, on the phone you can use the option to run sdcard update.zip to restart the software upgrade procedure.
Regards!
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To the first answer.
It's not THAT easy, the guides are kinda (you should already know what you're doing at this point) in nature. It's confusing for newcomers, as we've no idea what to expect, that and there are a multitude of variations. More specification as to which guide works with which model, and which updates would be nice.
As for the second part, I could not get the phone working with any button variation pressed. I'm sorry I was not more clear in my description, to begin with. I could press (and hold) any button (or buttons) + power (end key) and the phone would just vibrate (briefly) and then display the original screen "htc magic"(endlessly). The orange light does come on when plugged into the usb or computer, but only while it is off, as soon as the device turns on, the light turns off.
Another thing of note is that, after bricking it, I had to remove the battery to turn it off (every time if it was on), and if I put the battery back in while it's plugged into the usb port of the computer, the phone would turn back on without pressing any buttons. It's also completely unresponsive or detectable by my computer after bricking it. The only other thing I can get it to do is make the orange light blue by holding the action button and turning on the device. That way the light on top of the device is blue when it turns on. Still unresponsive at that point.
This is my first android device, but not my first htc device (I've had MANY MANY different ones.) so I'm a bit familiar with trying different combinations to get a response.
I am not the first person who's had this happen, unfortunately. There have been a couple others, who've described the exact same encounter. Perhaps it's a mistake that I made, and perhaps they also made it themselves. I would like to figure out how it's happening, though, and perhaps write a tutorial for people like us unlucky few.
Again, a really big thanks. I've sent my phone back and am getting a new one soon. I much appreciate your reply, however, as it's probably the most understanding and considerate reply I've seen on these forums.
Cheers.
Caid.
444
One more quick question out of curiosity, when you press and hold back and press end to turn on the device (it still goes to the htc magic screen) SHOULD it go to a different screen, other than the "htc magic" screen? Or is that a process that runs without some sort of visual notification on the device itself?
The usb was completely unresponsive after this happened, but in the event that bootloader may have been running, (only possible if it runs without any visual notification on the device itself), I'll go pick up the device and see if my usb drivers on my computer just became unresponsive after being accessed too many times. Sometimes windows does that, right? Perhaps a reboot would have allowed fastboot and the drivers to connect again, if the device was trying to talk to the computer, but I just didn't know on account of not having any notification.
So, again, should pressing back and power bring me to a different screen? or would it also look like it was hanging on htc magic screen?
Caid.
444
p.s. Sorry for the confusing wording, I'm tired and trying very hard to be as specific as possible.
back+end/power should lead you to the fastboot screen right after it shows the HTC Magic screen or whatever splash screen you have installed.
Home+end/power should lead you to the recovery screen.
ok, it was bricked. Thanks for the answer.
Caid.
444
Caid444 said:
Before I reply, I'd just like to say thank you very much for your extremely in depth reply.
To the first answer.
It's not THAT easy, the guides are kinda (you should already know what you're doing at this point) in nature. It's confusing for newcomers, as we've no idea what to expect, that and there are a multitude of variations. More specification as to which guide works with which model, and which updates would be nice.
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No problem, we all should be here to learn, and to help (except for the trolls)
This is the guide I followed for both Vodafone branded Magics: http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
Maybe not for now, but for the next magic you get it may come handy
Caid444 said:
As for the second part, I could not get the phone working with any button variation pressed. I'm sorry I was not more clear in my description, to begin with. I could press (and hold) any button (or buttons) + power (end key) and the phone would just vibrate (briefly) and then display the original screen "htc magic"(endlessly). The orange light does come on when plugged into the usb or computer, but only while it is off, as soon as the device turns on, the light turns off.
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When the phone is off with the charger connected and you press the power button, the light goes off, as for the others, you really should be able to enter the SPL if it could the magic bootlogo and vibrated upon boot...
Maybe you didn't try enough or maybe your bootloader behaved differently than mine... I should be more clear anyway, to get to the bootloader, the best way to make it go to the bootloader is press and hold back key, then while holding it, hold the power button too. It should take about a second or two before showing the three skater droids.
Caid444 said:
Another thing of note is that, after bricking it, I had to remove the battery to turn it off (every time if it was on), and if I put the battery back in while it's plugged into the usb port of the computer, the phone would turn back on without pressing any buttons. It's also completely unresponsive or detectable by my computer after bricking it. The only other thing I can get it to do is make the orange light blue by holding the action button and turning on the device. That way the light on top of the device is blue when it turns on. Still unresponsive at that point.
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When you put the battery while USB or charger is connected, the phone boots up, that's the normal behaviour. About the blue led, that's the Radio bootloader. That's quite dangerous to play with, but it gives a lot of other functions. Another sign that your phone wasn't completely dead Even if you wipe the SPL (the three skater droids), you may be able to boot into the Radio bootloader and write or boot another one to fix it. But that's waaaay harder
Caid444 said:
This is my first android device, but not my first htc device (I've had MANY MANY different ones.) so I'm a bit familiar with trying different combinations to get a response.
I am not the first person who's had this happen, unfortunately. There have been a couple others, who've described the exact same encounter. Perhaps it's a mistake that I made, and perhaps they also made it themselves. I would like to figure out how it's happening, though, and perhaps write a tutorial for people like us unlucky few.
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I guess the first advice when you start tricking with a phone is be careful with what you're doing. That's the good thing of fastboot.
When booting on fastboot mode, you can pick, for example a recovery image, and boot it without overwriting the original rom:
Code:
fastboot boot [recovery_image]
Then, when you see it's working, you can flash it:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery [recovery_image]
fastboot flash boot [boot_image]
fastboot flash system [system_image]
fastboot flash data [data_image]
You can't do that with the system.img since it's too big, but you can do it also with a boot.img
About the key combinations on the phone, it goes like this:
Code:
BACK + END KEY -> Fastboot mode (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
VOLDOWN + END KEY -> Hboot mode (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
ACTION (trackball center) + END KEY -> Radio Bootloader (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
HOME + END KEY -> Recovery mode (you should see the boot logo, then get the recovery menu)
SEND + MENU + END -> Reboot the phone (while the phone is on)
Maybe there are more (android has kind of 'safe mode' but I don't know it it goes there automatically if there's a problem or if it has to be called manually)
Anyway, I hope these things will be useful for the next phone, and for anybody who's a bit lost on this
Regards!
Let us know where you live , so maybe one can help you , I live in Sweden and will be glad to help you if you are near ;-)
Hey! Thanks again for all the help, and the offer to come help. Unfortunately, I'm in China. Coming here from Sweden (although it's a single large landmass) would take quite a bit of time
I appreciate all the support, though. Very cool community we're building here for the magic.
Caid.
444
htc semi-brick?
Hi to all. I'm in the same condition described in this tread; after installing SPL i get the htc block in Vodafone brand red screen.
None keys combination bring me to the boot menù. Only Action(trackball) + power have effect, but with a black screen...
Any suggest?
What do you do if you can boot into fastboot but can't flash anything because absolutely everything gives the error "FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)"?
I have a card reader and have tried just about every sappimg.zip, every boot.img, every recovery.img i could find. I can't even boot a recovery img because the screen just hangs at the HTC Magic logo.
I don't know what kind of warranty i have on this thing, but i might take it in tomorrow and see if i can get it replaced. I've only had it for just under two weeks.
Newbie need help
ok so i can still go to recovery mode but everytime i reboot my phone the mytouch 3g logo never goes away im new to Android but not htc can somebody plz help me out.
gruppler said:
What do you do if you can boot into fastboot but can't flash anything because absolutely everything gives the error "FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)"?
I have a card reader and have tried just about every sappimg.zip, every boot.img, every recovery.img i could find. I can't even boot a recovery img because the screen just hangs at the HTC Magic logo.
I don't know what kind of warranty i have on this thing, but i might take it in tomorrow and see if i can get it replaced. I've only had it for just under two weeks.
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Instead of flashing something, you boot a recovery image, and then, from there, you flash whatever you need (using adb & flash_image for example)
PS: Be a little patient, if fastboot is letting you boot a recovery image, the recovery needs to boot, and that takes a little while, and while it's booting, you see the bootlogo until the menu appears. Also, you can try running adb shell after boot process started to try to get an error message (or at least to know if the thing is booting in some way)
I couldn't boot any recovery images. I had tried a few different Hero ROMs but decided i wanted to use Cupcake again because i have a 32B board and it just doesn't have enough RAM, though Swapper makes it usable at least. I don't know what exactly i did, but i've learned a lot from my mistakes. Everything i tried failed the signature check because the hboot version didn't match. If i could just flash the 1.33.2005 hboot again, i would have been in business, but no matter which recovery image i tried, it just sat there doing nothing. And believe me, i waited.
Fortunately, T-Mobile gave me a new device after i took it in and played dumb. And I just rooted it =]
Caid444 said:
ok, it was bricked. Thanks for the answer.
Caid.
444
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Why not flashing it with an RUU from HTC. Not sure that would work but it is worth trying.
Hi there, people!
First of all, thanks because while I was reading ur posts I realized that my phone had been bricked, 100 %
I tried official ROM upgrade to Android 1.6 using the folowing steps
1. Copied radio zip to my sd card by renaming it in update.zip
2. Recovery screen was started by pressing HOME+END key
3.Applied update.zip, process was going on: Opening package, verifing package, installing radio...and message about success was shown and phone restarted
4. Phone stucked on HTC Magic logo screen...15 minutes
5. I removed a battery, put it back and tried to reach recovery or boot mode again
6.Unsuccessfully! Phone vibrates and turns on...but always stucks on the HTC Magic screen
7. USB does not recognize my phone is connected (I tried any adb and fastboot commands)
8. So, I just pray to give me a new phone if my warranty will be accepted
iivanovic said:
Hi there, people!
First of all, thanks because while I was reading ur posts I realized that my phone had been bricked, 100 %
I tried official ROM upgrade to Android 1.6 using the folowing steps
1. Copied radio zip to my sd card by renaming it in update.zip
2. Recovery screen was started by pressing HOME+END key
3.Applied update.zip, process was going on: Opening package, verifing package, installing radio...and message about success was shown and phone restarted
4. Phone stucked on HTC Magic logo screen...15 minutes
5. I removed a battery, put it back and tried to reach recovery or boot mode again
6.Unsuccessfully! Phone vibrates and turns on...but always stucks on the HTC Magic screen
7. USB does not recognize my phone is connected (I tried any adb and fastboot commands)
8. So, I just pray to give me a new phone if my warranty will be accepted
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I have the same problem. I get up hboot and fast boot menus can not get it in recovery. try to add in sappimg but no luck
I'm having the exact same problem...
Any solution yet?
Hello! I can assure you that your phone is not fully bricked! Awhile ago I flashed a new radio only to discover that I hadn't done my research and was a complete and total idiot. I flashed the 1.76.xxxx on a 32B. It didn't like it. I got a quick HTC logo that disappeared then the phone never responded again. When I say never responded it was dead. no combination of buttons would get any response. If you can get into fastboot you have options. All that's necessary is to make sure you have the appropriate sappimg file. Try the Unlockr's gold card method file. He has a .zip file that may work for you. Just make sure that you find an image that is compatible with your board (32A or 32B). Hope this helps!

[Q] Stuck in a reboot loop, please help

I got my Viewsonic GTablet on Friday (2/11/2011). I loved it and had no issues. I downloaded and installed the update from Viewsonic. I visited the Marketplace that's installed on the device and downloaded some apps, mainly games. Today (2/14/2011) I took it to my university and tried to get on the campus WiFi. I had difficulties, so I took it to the IT department on campus to get some help. They took my device, tried to get it on the network and said that my device could not get on the network because their network uses certain "secure credentials" or something like that. As soon as I get my device back from them, every time it boots up I get and error message that says that Dashboard Home has stopped unexpectedly and to try again. I called Viewsonic's Customer Service, and they determined that I was stuck in a reboot loop. I have tried rebooting the kernel more time than I can count, but it doesn't do anything to help.
Has anyone else been able to solve this problem? I would take it back to the store I bought it from (Office Depot) to get an exchange, but they don't have one in stock anywhere close to where I live, and I don't have the box the device came in anymore.
What do you suggest I do?
The device is running the stock OS with the update from Viewsonic. The only apps I have installed are from the marketplace that comes with the device. I have not tampered with the OS or settings. I am also mildly technically challenged, but I am working on educating myself.
I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance. I also apologize if this has issue has already been posted and answered.
vafalla,
This doesn't sound like the boot loops I had, but I guess if it doesn't get you to a screen you can work with the result is the same.
If it were me I would get on a PC and go the the Development part of this forum. I think you need to get ClockWorkMod installed. CWM is a replacement "recovery" program that gives you other functionality to restore, communicate, partition drives and a bunch of other things. There are a couple of threads in the Dev section that tell how. You can download CWM v.08 (the older one works!) and put the update.zip file on a microSD card and edit the recovery folder "command" (no .txt or other ending, just command) file in Notepad to load "sdcard2" instead of sdcard. then put the card in the gtab and reboot holding down the Vol+ key down. You'll get a message in the upper left corner of the screen that recovery is loading. After it installs, if it doesn't startup, reboot with the Vol+ key down again and you should be able to get into CWM.
From there, you can find the CWM partition command and change the two partitions to 2048 and 0.
From there, there are a bunch of threads which tell how to load either a stock recovery file to get back to stock -- or how to load VEGAn 5.1 (or now, 5.11).
Hope this helps get you started. I just didn't want you to think your tab is bricked and that all hope is lost!
Rev
P. S. --- Some of the other threads may have better instructions than mine!!!
Thanks so much for the help! I'll get right on it and see what happens.
Plug in your gtab to the power and see if it boots. Could be they ran your battery down.
Bootloop help
If you really want to learn about the gtablet, youtube ehunyadi. he has done over 10 excellent videos and his most recent is how to install CWM and TNT lite 4.2..sounds like only diereence for you is you'd install CWM to microsd.

[Q] Atrix 2 won't boot past "M" Motorola logo

Hey guys,
Forgive me for being frantic and (probably) not taking the steps needed to research this issue, or not taking the time to do so, but I'm sure you can all presumably imagine -if you've not been in this situation before- that it SUCKS not having a phone in this day in age...
My problem: Atrix 2 (Rooted + CWM Recovery) now won't boot passed the "M" Motorola logo upon start up. It won't even allow me to access the factory Android Recovery by holding down Volume Up, Volume Down, and Power. I think I inadvertently bricked the phone? (Hope not!)
Further, the "M" Motorola logo is skewed in appearance, like its not even loading correctly. I'm not sure what to do. This is my first time rooting and getting experienced with custom ROMS.
Anyone able to help this helpless sap?
Thanks is advance to your replies...
Step 1 is where you tell what you did to get into the state you are in. You wouldn't believe how far it goes toward fixing something if you know how it got broken.
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If you have CWM recovery on boot can't you just do a battery pull? You do NOT want to let that thing bootloop forever until the battery dies.
The End.
KEB64 said:
If you have CWM recovery on boot can't you just do a battery pull? You do NOT want to let that thing bootloop forever until the battery dies.
The End.
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Agreed pull the battery. If you run out of juice you'll be in some serious trouble.
Did you try to flash the fkz? Unless you have CWM on Boot it's the only way you can get your phone working.
Okay, sorry for not giving a full rundown on what stupidity on my part cause all of this. Let me start by saying that (sadly) I am a great big n00b when it comes to Linux, and I thought that despite my research online I would sort of explore the CWM Recovery 'Advanced' sections.
I downloaded ROM Toolbox from the Play Store, and installed a custom boot animation, and replaced -or thought I was- the startup "M" logo with something else. This is what concerned me: After re-booting, the "M" logo was all crazy looking, with a "stretched" "M" logo over the top of the "regular" logo.
So, I uninstalled the app, but the logo was still all messed up. So, I used Root Uninstaller to get rid of the ROM Toolbox files, still no resolve to the crazy boot logo.
So, I went into CWM Recovery Advanced, and wiped everything. The Dalvik, cache, System, Data, etc... didn't think that it would -what appears to have happened- wipe out the OS on the phone.
I tried pulling the battery, and re-booting, won't boot passed the skewed "M" logo still. Tried getting into Android Recovery, and it looks to go through the recovery goes through its thing, but never boots normally afterward.
Sorry for being such an idiot, I really shouldn't have messed with this while half asleep, and again I can't apologize enough for being such a stupid n00b.
I can attach an image of the boot logo if that helps, but I'm worried I am just S.O.L. at this point...
Also, not sure what an FKZ is. I tried to install a 2.3.6 apk file to my wife's SD card on her phone and booting from the file after putting the SD card into mine. Still nothing.
pull the battery, put it back in, and hold vol up and down while turning on. choose ap fastboot at the menu. go to the thread in my signature and under the mirrors there is also a download of the return to stock script. run it while in fastboot and plugged in with usb. DO NOT pull the chord until it is done. when it is you should be good.
Apex_Strider said:
Okay, sorry for not giving a full rundown on what stupidity on my part cause all of this. Let me start by saying that (sadly) I am a great big n00b when it comes to Linux, and I thought that despite my research online I would sort of explore the CWM Recovery 'Advanced' sections.
I downloaded ROM Toolbox from the Play Store, and installed a custom boot animation, and replaced -or thought I was- the startup "M" logo with something else. This is what concerned me: After re-booting, the "M" logo was all crazy looking, with a "stretched" "M" logo over the top of the "regular" logo.
So, I uninstalled the app, but the logo was still all messed up. So, I used Root Uninstaller to get rid of the ROM Toolbox files, still no resolve to the crazy boot logo.
So, I went into CWM Recovery Advanced, and wiped everything. The Dalvik, cache, System, Data, etc... didn't think that it would -what appears to have happened- wipe out the OS on the phone.
I tried pulling the battery, and re-booting, won't boot passed the skewed "M" logo still. Tried getting into Android Recovery, and it looks to go through the recovery goes through its thing, but never boots normally afterward.
Sorry for being such an idiot, I really shouldn't have messed with this while half asleep, and again I can't apologize enough for being such a stupid n00b.
I can attach an image of the boot logo if that helps, but I'm worried I am just S.O.L. at this point...
Also, not sure what an FKZ is. I tried to install a 2.3.6 apk file to my wife's SD card on her phone and booting from the file after putting the SD card into mine. Still nothing.
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Yeah wiping the system partition is a no no unless you flash another rom afterwards. Do like ikrasner says and you should be back to normal.
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Thanks for all the help guys, I really hope that something positive comes about this... though, to go without mention, I certainly need more knowledge on WTH I am doing to my phone: understanding flashing ROMS, what dangers come with rooting, and a vast array of other "all things root" that I need to learn up on.
I will try to install from SD card the 2.3.5 zip tonight, but will it (the phone) look for the newest 2.3.6 OTA update and try to ask me to install? How does that work after rooting, will I re-brick my clearly bricked phone all over again?
As always, thanks for all your replies in advance -you guys really know what's going on here!
can you read chinese?
Maybe I can solve your question,but poor of my english.
and what is your phone type?
at&t hktw or china ?
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Apex_Strider said:
Thanks for all the help guys, I really hope that something positive comes about this... though, to go without mention, I certainly need more knowledge on WTH I am doing to my phone: understanding flashing ROMS, what dangers come with rooting, and a vast array of other "all things root" that I need to learn up on.
I will try to install from SD card the 2.3.5 zip tonight, but will it (the phone) look for the newest 2.3.6 OTA update and try to ask me to install? How does that work after rooting, will I re-brick my clearly bricked phone all over again?
As always, thanks for all your replies in advance -you guys really know what's going on here!
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It should ask you to install 2.3.6. Just go into setting>about phone>check for updates. Or you could go and install one of the roms that are based on 2.3.6 such as Lithium Sonya or SCv5.
Okay gang, perhaps I'm just certifiably dumb, or I am simply just not doing this correctly. I downloaded the "Returntostock2.3.5.script" zip file and copied it to my wife's SD card to 'apply update from sdcard' option from the Android Recovery area by holding Vol Up, Vol Down, & Power buttons. What I got was this:
--Install /sdcard ...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted.
I tried to just plug the USB into the phone and run the 2.3.5. script from there. but again- I'm stuck in the crazy skewed "M" logo startup screen with nothing following. That's all the phone will do at this point, other than my getting into Android Recovery.
I'm not sure how or what fastboot is, or how it works. If the phone is plugged into the USB, it will only boot the stupid screwed up "M" logo screen. Noting else.
Apex_Strider said:
Okay gang, perhaps I'm just certifiably dumb, or I am simply just not doing this correctly. I downloaded the "Returntostock2.3.5.script" zip file and copied it to my wife's SD card to 'apply update from sdcard' option from the Android Recovery area by holding Vol Up, Vol Down, & Power buttons. What I got was this:
--Install /sdcard ...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted.
I tried to just plug the USB into the phone and run the 2.3.5. script from there. but again- I'm stuck in the crazy skewed "M" logo startup screen with nothing following. That's all the phone will do at this point, other than my getting into Android Recovery.
I'm not sure how or what fastboot is, or how it works. If the phone is plugged into the USB, it will only boot the stupid screwed up "M" logo screen. Noting else.
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do not flash this. unzip it on your computer, choose to boot into fast boot in the same place you chose recovery, then run the .bat file that was in the zip.
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What that file does is reflash your system.img, basically restoring your phone to factory default. And just as a sidenote you cannot flash things with the standard Android Recovery. You need CWM.
did you try apboot mode and ise fastboot to flash system.img ?
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Still not working... not sure how to flash from fastboot. I don't have any options to run a file from there, or at least not sure ow to go about that.
Fastboot sample, hope will help you.
http://bbs.gfan.com/mobile/android-3701449-1-1.html
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dickluo said:
Fastboot sample, hope will help you.
http://bbs.gfan.com/mobile/android-3701449-1-1.html
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So, if I'm looking at this correctly, I need to open command prompt from my computer, and type the commands in from there?
I don't think my computer is recogzining the phone in any way, as I cannot get into the 'manage usb connections' options.
If I have the 2.3.5.script downloaded on my desktop, and l plug my phone in after launching AP Fastboot on the phone, will the computer know where to flash the file to?
I know, I'm a dolt... please bear with me, I really need to get this thing working again -I feel naked without my phone!
Apex_Strider said:
So, if I'm looking at this correctly, I need to open command prompt from my computer, and type the commands in from there?
I don't think my computer is recogzining the phone in any way, as I cannot get into the 'manage usb connections' options.
If I have the 2.3.5.script downloaded on my desktop, and l plug my phone in after launching AP Fastboot on the phone, will the computer know where to flash the file to?
I know, I'm a dolt... please bear with me, I really need to get this thing working again -I feel naked without my phone!
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Before using the restore script you need to install the usb drivers for your mb865, you can get those from here: http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Support/Experiences/Global_Drivers/MotoHelper_2.1.40_Driver_5.5.0.exe
Next unzip the Return to Stock 2.3.5 Fastboot SCRIPT.zip to anywhere you like in your pc (example: C:\RestoreScript\ )
Next connect your phone with the usb cable to the pc and get into fastboot mode for this in your phone press volume down + volume up + power it should appear a screen with some options, use the volume down key of your phone to navigate through the menu until you see the Fastboot option, then enter by pressing the volume up key, this will show you some messages and the finally it should said usb connected.
Then open the folder where you extracted the Return to Stock 2.3.5 Fastboot SCRIPT files and search a .bat file call "Stock Restore" then run the file (double click on it) and it should open a command promt screen with some instructions if the phone is connected correctly and you installed the drivers correctly then in some point the screen will show you the id of your device and it will wait you to press the enter key to start the proccess, press key enter wait all the proccess until the program said to you its finished, after that it will reboot your phone and install the stock 2.3.5 when it boots up you should see the android logo and a progress bar filling up.
when it's done wait the reboot and your phone should be ok.
hope this helps.
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Before using the restore script you need to install the usb drivers for your mb865, you can get those from here: http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Support/Experiences/Global_Drivers/MotoHelper_2.1.40_Driver_5.5.0.exe
Next unzip the Return to Stock 2.3.5 Fastboot SCRIPT.zip to anywhere you like in your pc (example: C:\RestoreScript\ )
Next connect your phone with the usb cable to the pc and get into fastboot mode for this in your phone press volume down + volume up + power it should appear a screen with some options, use the volume down key of your phone to navigate through the menu until you see the Fastboot option, then enter by pressing the volume up key, this will show you some messages and the finally it should said usb connected.
Then open the folder where you extracted the Return to Stock 2.3.5 Fastboot SCRIPT files and search a .bat file call "Stock Restore" then run the file (double click on it) and it should open a command promt screen with some instructions if the phone is connected correctly and you installed the drivers correctly then in some point the screen will show you the id of your device and it will wait you to press the enter key to start the proccess, press key enter wait all the proccess until the program said to you its finished, after that it will reboot your phone and install the stock 2.3.5 when it boots up you should see the android logo and a progress bar filling up.
when it's done wait the reboot and your phone should be ok.
hope this helps.
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jfrank1485,
This stepped me through the entire process without any confusion! Everything is back to normal! Hooray and three Huzzahs!
Also, many many thanks to dickluo, farshad525hou, lkrasner, mtnlion, and KEB64!
You guys really saved my stupid (you know what) on this deal! Next order of business: figure out what the heck I am doing before doing ANYTHING!
Problem solved, my world has regained sanity, and my phone is back to life!
You guys are the best, thank you all so much!!!
Apex_Strider said:
jfrank1485,
This stepped me through the entire process without any confusion! Everything is back to normal! Hooray and three Huzzahs!
Also, many many thanks to dickluo, farshad525hou, lkrasner, mtnlion, and KEB64!
You guys really saved my stupid (you know what) on this deal! Next order of business: figure out what the heck I am doing before doing ANYTHING!
Problem solved, my world has regained sanity, and my phone is back to life!
You guys are the best, thank you all so much!!!
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I'm glad it work , keep it at hand before doing anything to your phone, it really helps

Can't get into bootloader menu

EDIT: SOLVED! I did some additional googling and stumbled across the answer elsewhere on the internet. Once I was in the yellow triangle/exclamation mark screen, pressing Volume Up and Volume Down at the same time brought me into the boot menu. Whew! Back to flashing!
Original message:
I've been messing with my wife's phone and think I may have screwed something up pretty seriously.
I had a CM9 beta installed, and thinking I would update it to the latest version I first installed the D2G bootstrap, then tried to reboot into CWM. (I think this was a noob error...I have a Galaxy Nexus, which makes life so easy, and only mess with this D2G when my wife is really complaining about bugs or slow performance.) Anyway, obviously it wouldn't boot. So, I SBFed using the 4.5.608 SBF file. Upon attempting the first reboot, it got to the droid boot animation and I thought I was home free. It bootlooped. "No problem" I thought, I'll just wipe the user data. So I tried the "hold X" trick. I did get to the screen with the android and the ! in a triangle, but when I try the next step "press the physical search button to enter the bootloader menu", nothing happens. Literally nothing. I've tried many different combinations of many different keys, and I'm always looking at the android with the exclamation mark. Rebooting always results in a boot loop.
Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
That's not bootloader, that's Recovery.
Just saying.

Resurrect my tf101

I am trying to resurrect my tf101. This is my starting point. Some time ago I installed cm10-20130929-NIGHTLY-tf101 into my tf101 using twrp. That installed fine but in the process something happened and I cannot boot into twrp I can now only boot into CM by holding the power button and volume up. I was not able to install gapps . Also I think my bootloader is corrupted because if I try to boot into it I just get a blank screen. I was able to install the Official TWRP App and can run it but it crashes every time "Unfortunately the app has stopped".
I am about ready to throw this laptop out because I have tried many options on this board and nothing worked. I can connect the tf101 to my computer and I can see it in device manager and I can open the laptop in file manager. I would even be willing to wipe the entire laptop and start from scratch but I don't know enough how to do this.
Any help or suggestions would be welcome.
Hi. First, I'll explain to you that for 10 years I had no contact with flashing phones. I didn't have any problems with the previous models. So I stopped somewhere at the level of the Samsung Galaxy S3-S4. Some time ago I decided that I would bring two Asus tf101s back to life and install a new KitKiss ROM on them. I set to work confidently. Turns out it's not that simple. I can do nothing. Some of the links have expired and the tips seem outdated. I can not upload a new recovery or even root the device. Strange things are happening. First of all, after turning on the device in recovery mode, after some time it goes into system boot and exits recovery. I've tried many ways and I don't understand any of it anymore. In the command line (CMD) it seems to see the device but does not want to respond to any commands, even to "adb reboot fastboot". I can do like this :
1. Ask for simple instructions for a "boy" and current links to the necessary files.
2. Look for someone who will perform a miracle and install the required Android for me.
Will someone help me?

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