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Extremely battery drain over an EDGE connection

Folks,
During the last few days, I've been dealing with a really weird way to drain a battery!
Yeah....it happens only over an active edge connection. And happens just when you active EDGE.
It drains so fast from 100% at 9AM to approximately 27% before lunch time! It's totally crazy. Never seen a behaviour like this.
Can anyone here explain me what the hell could be causing this?
Even with the original ROM, the drains is still happening...It's not an Extended ROM also.....it's all there.
Should I expect the battery ends? Should I buy a new one or who knows...maybe mine is already dead and started making jokkings around me! Gezzzzzzz.......
Thanks for any comments!

similar here when using phone as modem betwen two computer & if i touch phone its too hot battery side.using kjam....
ampv1 rom...

It sounds that too many people here got curious about this topic but only one had replied!!
I start thinking that only me needs luck???
Folks, let's share experience...please! This issue is really weird and annoying me a lot....
I'm using Pocket Battery analyzer to see how drain really works...let's see what happens...
One question still unanswered is why the battery drains ONLY over an EDGE connection and not over an usual and operational daily use?
....rgs...

In my case, the problem happens upon you connect to my EDGE network. Nothing else than this...
dhawal4u said:
similar here when using phone as modem betwen two computer & if i touch phone its too hot battery side.using kjam....
ampv1 rom...
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You could try to use a different Radio ROM. I'm not sure that's the problem though...
Fingers crossed

you again??
LOL!!!
anichillus, really don't know what's going with my battery. It started over 2.71.11 and kept going with 2.37.11....but your tip have reminded me 2.19.11 which I haven't tested yet since this issue arised. I used it in the past....maybe can be the one!
Let's see.....
Thanks buddy!
anichillus said:
You could try to use a different Radio ROM. I'm not sure that's the problem though...
Fingers crossed
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Take your battery out. If the battery is swollen, then its bad. Happened to me.

Hmmmm
You made a good point here.
I'm experiencing the same.
I have two batteries I'll test with the second and let you know.
Maybe this is because Edge is different from GPRS and it keeps the RadioRom Busy
Will have to see this

All you have to do is look at the battery. If it isn't flat or slightly concave on the surface, then the battery cells have burst. Best way is to look at it on the side. According to Motorola, my old employer, a battery has about 500 charges per life. I don't remember if they were talking about the battery's memory or the charging cells. But each time you charge it (even if while syncing or for 5 minutes) that counts as a charge! Kinda weird but seemed to be pretty true as a cellphone tech for 5 years and having a few chances to test their sometimes insane claims. But most of them were true, surprisingly.

That's really sounds interesting at this point....
Thanks for sharing....will have a look...
different views..nice!
sino8r said:
All you have to do is look at the battery. If it isn't flat or slightly concave on the surface, then the battery cells have burst. Best way is to look at it on the side. According to Motorola, my old employer, a battery has about 500 charges per life. I don't remember if they were talking about the battery's memory or the charging cells. But each time you charge it (even if while syncing or for 5 minutes) that counts as a charge! Kinda weird but seemed to be pretty true as a cellphone tech for 5 years and having a few chances to test their sometimes insane claims. But most of them were true, surprisingly.
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so I have been reading this thread and have to say something:
LithiumIon batteries are not supposed to have a "memory" but I'm sure they have a lifespan.
I am starting to believe that usb/charger may be killing the battery. however, untill I talk to some chemist at berkley or something I'm going to keep my fingers crossed.
third:
I have noticed that if I drain my battery completely, the gprs does not kill it as fast. (trying to recondition the bettery)
however, I believe it may have something to do with reflashing roms....
ok, before I start confusing everyone, here is what i did:
1.flashed my wiz quite a few times with the battery not full. the new rom seemed to think that it was.
2. I let my battery drain as much as possible before putting it on the charger (untill I got the prompt to back up my $#!+. ) 8hrs later it was almost full.
So my conclusion (since I got a new battery in feb) is that the rom may be confused about how much battery it actualy has before it turns off the charging.
I am assuming that since the insides of a battery consists of some chemical putty, the electrons may not be mixing well during quick charges. sort of like a coke bottle that it half full: you tip it to one side and let all the water drain to the bottom before picking it up, ypu have mixture, if you do it too quick, it only mixes on the surface. or immagine a pipe you are trying to force a liquid through at both ends..

Battery Keeps Dieing

ok so latly my battery has been dieing so quick
i have a cingular 8125
these are the things im running
TskMgr.exe
ThrottleLock.exe
lockdemon.exe
pBar.exe
CapNotify.exe
cprog.exe
connmgr.exe
services.exe
shell32.exe
gwes.exe
device.exe
filesys.exe
NK.EXE
someone help me please

how old is your battery?

josefcrist said:
how old is your battery?
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i dun really know because i bought it used
the phone use to last untill like 8 hours while tlking on the phone
now it wont even last for an hour

Also you can buy a new battery, they are cheap this days

wiredvs said:
try conditioning your battery, you do this by running your phone down til' it turns off. Then, charge (while off) for about 7 hrs.
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orb3000 said:
Also you can buy a new battery, they are cheap this days
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lol both correct, but try what wiredvs says first. When under heavy use, the battery gauge does not display the crrect charge sometimes. You will charge it until the green light shows (normally full yes?) and take it off charge, but the phone will not be fully charged.
Charging it for at least double the time with device off should rectify the issue, its a common "quirk" of winmo devices under heavy usage.
If it doesnt work then ur battery is fried so time to get a new one

bstylz911 said:
i dun really know because i bought it used
the phone use to last untill like 8 hours while tlking on the phone
now it wont even last for an hour
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Wait, what? You can talk on these things? OMG YOU'RE RIGHT!? I've never done that.
Seriously, I suspect your battery is dead, so I'm agreeing with, well, every other post in this thread. My battery has gotten weird too.. I tracked a bunch of battery usage on my phone back when it was new, now when I do the same thing the readings seem to be higher than they were because I'm basing it on percentage of battery used. I've found actually monitoring the battery usage tends to use more battery so I wanted to avoid that.
Also I've noticed mine charges up to about 88% then suddenly thinks it's 100% full. It's about time for a new one.

khaytsus said:
. I've found actually monitoring the battery usage tends to use more battery so I wanted to avoid that.
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Lol how ironic!

Did you start using Sensation right away after opening it or charge it first?

So, I've had my sensation for a week, it was nearly perfect. But I wasn't sure that it was the best unit, cause battery was used fairly quick, GPS kinda weak, and a slightly washed out screen. I took the 14 day advantage I had at Walmart, and just today headed out there after work to grab the last unit they had! I called like 5 diff. walmarts but only that one had one unit.
Even the box was in such pristine condition, compared to the one I bought earlier, even though both were new. The first box had a date of 5/27. This new one has 6/3, so I'm hoping the June units might be better. Both Taiwanese. I haven't even opened my new Sensation yet, feel excited all over again
Anyways, to come to the point, how did you all start using you new phone, did you just take it out, turn it on, and use it? Or kept it off, charged it all the way, then use it? The reason I'm asking is cause the first one I had, I kept it off and charged it all the way. During that process, the phone got extremely hot towards the bottom, I mean hot like I've never ever seen in any phone before. And it pretty much stayed that way for atleast 2 hours straight. I'm thinking that I maybe messed up the battery up, cause too much heat can damage them. What do you guys think?
Edit: Another thing on my previous phone: the battery gauge was wacky. I would use if for hours and it would stay at 100. Then suddenly show like 85 or something.

usually I will leave it off and charge it fully before using it. This time I turned it on right away, let it drain then charged it fully while off. I've only had my sensation less than a week so really cant ccomment on battery life. When you first get a phone though battery life will be worse because you play with it tons when you first get it

Charged it before turning on & it never got hot

Yeah, mines seemed like a fluke, I've never had a phone do that before. This time, I'm thinking that I'll prolly turn it on before charging just to be safe.

My first two, I did. This one I used right away and today it's been unplugged for 11 hours and I'm still at 47%

I play with it until it fully dies, then I let it charge all the way; for the batteries sake. It last much longer that way.

I couldn't wait for it to charge completely.

I wasnt even out of the T-Mobile parking lot before I had my sim card in it and was messing with it lol.

Could you please tell us how your new phone is? I'll update my post when I check my box for the date but my battery does heat up and my power button is the slanted one.
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also what panel is it?

EmceeGeek said:
I play with it until it fully dies, then I let it charge all the way; for the batteries sake. It last much longer that way.
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Exactly....that's what most all manufactures recommend. I didn't notice it in the Sensation's manual, but I know I saw it in my G2X's manual.
For the last 5-6 devices I've had, I always run it dead from the box, then let it fully charge to 100%. As far as I can tell that really does help either calibrate the driver or condition the battery. I also do that pretty much every time its convenient.
I've never just charged it straight from the box.
I've always had great great battery life, under heavy use, for every phone I've had using that method.
I really don't know how important it is, but I know I've never had any of the battery issues that it seems many have with various devices.

Hoggles said:
Exactly....that's what most all manufactures recommend. I didn't notice it in the Sensation's manual, but I know I saw it in my G2X's manual.
For the last 5-6 devices I've had, I always run it dead from the box, then let it fully charge to 100%. As far as I can tell that really does help either calibrate the driver or condition the battery. I also do that pretty much every time its convenient.
I've never just charged it straight from the box.
I've always had great great battery life, under heavy use, for every phone I've had using that method.
I really don't know how important it is, but I know I've never had any of the battery issues that it seems many have with various devices.
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Great advice, however I wanted to ask you that when you charged it back to 100% the first time, did you keep the phone off all the way? Also, did you perform any kind of a hard reset on it, and if you did, at what point?

xdviper said:
Could you please tell us how your new phone is? I'll update my post when I check my box for the date but my battery does heat up and my power button is the slanted one.
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I will surely report that info as well as panel info tomorrow after 7PM, as its late, and I havent opened the box yet. I was still trying to figure out the best way to start using the phone, as I didnt want to repeat the mistake I made last time.

mike2518 said:
Great advice, however I wanted to ask you that when you charged it back to 100% the first time, did you keep the phone off all the way? Also, did you perform any kind of a hard reset on it, and if you did, at what point?
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No, I let it die...plug it back in, turn it on.
Some people do factory resets out of the box....I never have (out of the box)...
I get easily a full day, 14-16 hours, with consistent use. WiFi always on, gps on when needed, tons of web activity, light gaming, 100+ texts, dozen or so calls. That's pretty normal.
The Sensation seems to go from full to 90% in a hurry, but then really levels off. No idea why, but it's undeniable with mine. Also, this phone is by far the best I've ever owned when it comes to idle power consumption. I'll regularly leave it unplugged while asleep and it might go down 5% at most.
That's my experience.....hope it helps.

Hoggles, thx so much for your insight. So after reading quite a few pages on other forums, especially the IPhone ones, I think I'm gonna fire it up and drain it & then charge it fully while its off. Now the only thing to figure out is when to factory reset the phone, as soon as I first turn it on, or after it has fully charged? Also, when fully charged, is it best to unplug it and then start it, or start phone while plugged in, and then remove the power cable once it comes up?

mike2518 said:
Hoggles, thx so much for your insight. So after reading quite a few pages on other forums, especially the IPhone ones, I think I'm gonna fire it up and drain it & then charge it fully while its off. Now the only thing to figure out is when to factory reset the phone, as soon as I first turn it on, or after it has fully charged? Also, when fully charged, is it best to unplug it and then start it, or start phone while plugged in, and then remove the power cable once it comes up?
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I really don't think ya have to get that nit picky...as far as when or how to unplug.
Pretty simple and hard to go wrong....
Out of the box....use it til it shuts off on its own
Plug it in....
Turn it on if ya need to receive calls etc...
Let it charge to 100%...
You're Golden
Repeat whenever you have the time...once, twice a month works for me.

mike2518 said:
Hoggles, thx so much for your insight. So after reading quite a few pages on other forums, especially the IPhone ones, I think I'm gonna fire it up and drain it & then charge it fully while its off. Now the only thing to figure out is when to factory reset the phone, as soon as I first turn it on, or after it has fully charged? Also, when fully charged, is it best to unplug it and then start it, or start phone while plugged in, and then remove the power cable once it comes up?
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I'm also use it out of the box until its battery drain and warning indication come out. Then I charge my battery.
I facing a weird condition during charging, where its goes up to 80 or 90% fast, but then to reach 100% very slow. It took 3.5 to 4 hours for my phone to reach 100%!!. I already use my phone for 15 days.

EmceeGeek said:
I play with it until it fully dies, then I let it charge all the way; for the batteries sake. It last much longer that way.
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This is the "proper" way to condition a Li-Ion Battery. it's best for the battery life during every day use and into the long term. Ideally you should use it until it get's down to about 2-3% then charge fully, and repeat at least 2-3 more times. Your battery will thank you for it.
I had started to think that this tried and true method was NOT working on my sensation and then today, almost one week precisely after I'd gotten it I saw a huge, noticeable difference in battery life over the first 3-4 days.
Condition your batteries people! You and your phones will thank you for it!

I got the phone at Walmart the first day it came out and used it then charged it all the way.
Phone got very hot and I can not get it to last more than 6hrs on a charge no matter what I try.
(No GPS No WiFi No extra apps......you get the point)
Trying to return the phone to Walmart but they don't have any.
Something is definitely off her but I don't know if it's the phone or the battery.

[Q] Sudden (strange) battery issues

I've had my nexus s (9020a) since late November (bought it used, in execellent condition.) While battery life was never awesome, it was at least bearable - until last week. I'm now unable to get more than 6 hours on a battery with super-minimal usage. For instance, today, as of right now, I have 5h 58m 57s (at 7% battery left) - the top "user" being the display (32%) with a "time on" of 17m 30s. Even when I power the phone completely off (not the screen, literally powering off) - say for a half hour or so - when I power it back on I lose substantial amount of battery.
Some other details:
Currently running stock 2.3.6 rom (since yesterday), but rooted.
Previously was running stock ICS (flashed the tmobile 2.3.6 ota, then ics, then the att radio) - was fine for the last 2 months
Tried brand new battery (not a samsung, but Anker) - no difference
Tried several different charges, and charging via computer
Have wiped battery stats several times (and done complete resets/formats of everything in between swapping roms)
Phone used to always top out at 95% when charging - but now will go up to 100%
This behavior started up when I was on vacation - a few hours after landing in SLC, UT. I do recall a sudden crash / reboot of the phone before the problems started - but I have gotten random reboots in the past. Was running ICS at the time. I thought maybe a poor signal was to blame, but again, the battery would drain even when the phone was powered off (or in airplane mode.)
I'm not sure what else I can/should do - short of calling Samsung. I'd think if it were a hardware issue, it would fail to charge completely. Does anyone have any other ideas or suggestions?
Thanks in advance!

Sounds like something external is draining the battery. I've seen many cases with a magnet on them drain the battery very quickly, or possibly excessive heat. If not i would say it's some kind of hardware problem.
Does not sound like android chewing it up.

Harbb said:
Sounds like something external is draining the battery. I've seen many cases with a magnet on them drain the battery very quickly, or possibly excessive heat. If not i would say it's some kind of hardware problem.
Does not sound like android chewing it up.
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I don't have a case on it - just a screen protector. The battery does tend to run in the mid 90s fahrenheit (according to battery status apps.. though I think I have seen it as high as the low 100s (maybe 102?) - but I figured that was normal.
Another weird behavior I should mention: sometimes when I power off and on while charging, it will cause the battery percentage to jump considerably. Right now, two consecutive on-off-on cycles (within the span of 3 minutes) caused the battery percentage to jump from 36% to 44% to 57%.

Heats normal. Not sure what it could be to be honest. Maybe grab a can of compressed air and spray around the back, maybe dust causing a short or something.

Harbb said:
Heats normal. Not sure what it could be to be honest. Maybe grab a can of compressed air and spray around the back, maybe dust causing a short or something.
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Thanks, will try that

Sent it back to Samsung for "repair". As I suspected, all they incompetently did was re-flash 2.3.4 and say "passed all functional testing". Phone is still hosed and completely useless as-is.
(Fully charged, overnight - less than 8 hours - went down to 17%, with no apps running, no google accounts, no sync, no background anything, no screen time, no wifi, in airplane mode)

Samsung really is hopeless. Going to try again with them? Whatever you decide, best of luck. Hope it works out for you.

what is the mv reading when the phone is fully charged? Fully charged should be around 4200mv

Harbb said:
Samsung really is hopeless. Going to try again with them? Whatever you decide, best of luck. Hope it works out for you.
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Trying again, but not optimistic. I talked to about 4 total "customer support" people today.. at least got them to "upgrade" me to 2-day shipping for sending back and forth instead of the normal ups ground.
It is so foreign to me - coming from Apple where, under warranty, they'll pretty much swap problematic devices out for new ones _in store_ on a dime. I pretty much begged Samsung to just send me a refurb unit to replace it with but they said thats "not their policy."

noobiekins said:
what is the mv reading when the phone is fully charged? Fully charged should be around 4200mv
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I don't have it with me (send it back for round number two) but I am fairly certain that is around what it was reading.
The thing would even burn through battery when powered off, if the battery was still left in. Taking the battery out = no drop. It has to be something hardware.

[Q] Battery Problens!!

Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.

What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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KungFuCracka94 said:
What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen

Do you allow full charges after these "forced shutdowns" occur? This should cause your battery to recalibrate.
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NexusS4gFreak said:
Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen
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The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.

NexusS4gFreak said:
Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.
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When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Madcat8686 said:
The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.
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Ive done all three methods youve mentioned before and still same thing. Also im on 3/4 bars with lte 90% of the time so no reception issues here. And with my current setup ive been running it for about 2 weeks.

DESERT.TECH said:
When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Ive always let the rom settle in and i constantly maintain the brightness on around mid level (mirror screen protector so i cant go too low) but its not just one rom or a few, its with every rom i flash ad that consists of most roms available for this device

The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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timmaaa said:
The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all. Also i cant get it to charge too 100% for anything. So if theres no fix to this, anybody want a one x with a troublesome battery?

What I'm saying is the battery percentage displayed by the software is never exact, it's only an estimate based on the voltage level of your battery. Your battery sounds like its long term life (capacity) has been decreased over time and possibly bad treatment (allowing the device to discharge too much too many times).
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NexusS4gFreak said:
So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all.
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Depends on what you define as "normal". Such behavior is certainly not unheard of (although you particular collection of symptoms may point to a more serious issue, which I'll get to later). Couple things you have to remember: the battery meter is far from accurate. Being off by 10% or more is not unusual (completely normal). So jumping from 5 to 13% as you mentioned is not out of the question. The battery voltage is not actually jumping around, just the % battery number that the phone is assigning to various voltage readings. Reading errors happen, and if a jump is noticed, its just the meter correcting itself.
Which brings us to the other point that should be kept in mind: the battery % is not a "real" measurement. Its just a number assigned to various voltages to give the average person a sense of how much battery is left. Its a completely fabricated and artificial measure that just gives some relative sense of when a user should charge their battery. Phone makers just decided to use a system that average people would understand, like the fuel gauge on a car. Zero doesn't really mean zero (or anywhere close), but reporting in voltages would make no sense for most folks. Also, as we all well know, just because (for example) it took you 12 hours to drain the phone to 50%, does not necessarily mean the phone will last another 12 hours to drain the remaining 50%. It all depends on what you are doing with the phone during that time. Which leaves the question: What does the % battery really mean? Really, not a heck of a lot.
On the other hand, the battery failing to charge to 100% is troublesome, as is the apparent frequency of the meter drops and the fact that the issue remains after various ROM flashes. Leads me to believe there may be some hardware issue going on.
The short answer: IMO while some of the individual symptoms are not unusual, the seeming frequency (you haven't exactly quantified this, but it seems relative frequent just based on your descriptions) may suggest a larger issue, but its not certain.

Thanks it explained a lot but it happened again today, went to the store with ~36% on the meter and walked out, haven't touched it at all, phone was completely dead. Tried to charge and it went to 6% and stopped charging, all signs showed it was charging but it was stuck on 6. Then it started climbing again and reached about 16% and actually started losing charge while on the charger. Switched over to my portable battery charger i just got and it held the charge at about 5% for ~30 minutes, which is what it was when i plugged it in and started to charge, then it stopped againand during the whole process the phone was getting very hot. Yea im getting a new phone :/