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I'm moving from a Samsung Captivate to this phone very soon. I was just looking around to familiarize myself with different things about these two phones.
One thing about my device (Captivate) that I love is the Odin software that allows you to flash back to stock. Is there anything like that for the HTC Inspire 4G? Or any way to get back to stock no matter what state the phone is in (as long as it's not a hard brick)?
Also, what is a Gold Card? I've seen the term used everywhere with absolutely no explanation! And what is s-off'ing your phone do?
Thanks
There is no app like odin but its really hard to break a htc device. I have bricked a captivate with bad odin flash and have never bricked a htc phone.
shep211 said:
There is no app like odin but its really hard to break a htc device. I have bricked a captivate with bad odin flash and have never bricked a htc phone.
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But how, if I wanted to, would I get back to stock? Like if I flash a custom ROM (let's say CM7), how would I get back to stock?
And still, what's s-off and gold card?
I also haven't seen anything on tethering (Mobile AP... I use this all the time on my Captivate).
.Candy said:
But how, if I wanted to, would I get back to stock? Like if I flash a custom ROM (let's say CM7), how would I get back to stock?
And still, what's s-off and gold card?
I also haven't seen anything on tethering (Mobile AP... I use this all the time on my Captivate).
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Yes all you need to do is flash the ruu which is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952224
Then simply turn S-ON use bubby's one click here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
S-OFF is turning the security off so you can flash custom roms.
The gold card enables you to root the phone and turn s-off.
hope this answers your questions.
edit: I also think its flashing with CWM is a tad better then flashing with odin because you backup and recover your rom exactly as it was. All you need a computer to do is put the rom.zip on your sd card then you flash the rom from the phone and not your computer.
mudknot2005 said:
Yes all you need to do is flash the ruu which is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952224
Then simply turn S-ON use bubby's one click here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
S-OFF is turning the security off so you can flash custom roms.
The gold card enables you to root the phone and turn s-off.
hope this answers your questions.
edit: I also think its flashing with CWM is a tad better then flashing with odin because you backup and recover your rom exactly as it was. All you need a computer to do is put the rom.zip on your sd card then you flash the rom from the phone and not your computer.
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Note that it is recommended to get S-On BEFORE running the RUU to get back to stock
.Candy said:
I'm moving from a Samsung Captivate to this phone very soon. I was just looking around to familiarize myself with different things about these two phones.
One thing about my device (Captivate) that I love is the Odin software that allows you to flash back to stock. Is there anything like that for the HTC Inspire 4G? Or any way to get back to stock no matter what state the phone is in (as long as it's not a hard brick)?
Also, what is a Gold Card? I've seen the term used everywhere with absolutely no explanation! And what is s-off'ing your phone do?
Thanks
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once you do some reading and root your first HTC phone you will find it is so much easier than your captivate and you will never what to go back
alwayslearning said:
once you do some reading and root your first HTC phone you will find it is so much easier than your captivate and you will never what to go back
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I'm still utterly confused as to where to start, and it's getting frustrating.
The Captivate forums at least had a sticky telling someone who just got their phone for the first time how to get started. There's nothing like that here. I'm afraid to do anything... I feel like I might brick it.
My main point: how would I flash my first ROM? What do I do? In what order?
All assuming that this is on a stock ROM, just as it is out of the box. I haven't changed anything (installed a few apps, but nothing that would affect rooting/flashing stuff).
Thanks :\
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCcd1XQrTzE&hd=1
Follow carefully. Worked perfectly for me, I did it on day one when I got this...and threw my captivate out the window.
you're not the only one .. i am still reading up and getting familiar with it all as well .. to me the captivate (and galaxy tab) were easy to root and flash roms ... but the HTC is seeming a little intimidating at the moment till it finally clicks with me how it all works.
.Candy said:
I'm still utterly confused as to where to start, and it's getting frustrating.
The Captivate forums at least had a sticky telling someone who just got their phone for the first time how to get started. There's nothing like that here. I'm afraid to do anything... I feel like I might brick it.
My main point: how would I flash my first ROM? What do I do? In what order?
All assuming that this is on a stock ROM, just as it is out of the box. I haven't changed anything (installed a few apps, but nothing that would affect rooting/flashing stuff).
Thanks :\
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start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970824
you need to:
make gold card (watch Youtube video) or see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
ROOT your phone : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
s-off : it is done if you used the link in point two
ENG s-off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
flash ROM of your choice, this is the one I am using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965207
flash kernel: in the above ROM it is included
flash radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
enjoy your phone and buy one of these guys a cup of coffee for their hard work
I'll be honest with you. The only experience I had with android was flashing my wife's captivate with the leaked froyo with odin. I came from a blackberry bold to the inspire (bought it outright). So I can tell you I was pretty confused, about what to do and how to do it. The link the posted above is how I did mine for the most part. To be completely honest it looks a lot more confusing then it really is. I just followed the instructions on the video to a tee, and followed the dev's instructions for flashing their rom. Once you do it the first time its simple after that. Almost all the dev's read their threads and will answer any question you have, as long as you ask politely. I know this doesn't help you very much, but I just want to assure you that it is not as hard as it looks by any means.
Hi guys. I'm hoping my post hasn't broken any forum rules... but anyway, i am very new to android, and i'm still trying to read up on/learn about rooting a phone + flashing a ROM to it. I have a few questions that i'm hoping some experienced people could answer for me =]
1. Does my HTC sensation need to have a certain update before i can try archieve S-Off? (I'm on the Three network [UK] and my software number is 1.34.771.1)
2. How easy is it to brick a device? Im good with computers, and can follow instructions, but seeing as i have no past experience with android, i'm anxious to try flash new ROMs to my phone without insurance - as £500 for a new device would kill me... =P
3. When flashing a new custom ROM to my phone, what kind of 'wipe' do i need to perform? I've read a few articles, all of which say to perform different wipes.
4. I dont understand ' Radio Flashing' could someone kindly explain that to me please?
5. What exactly does CWM backup? =P
I hope i'm not wasting anyones time here, i have read through the articles for noobs, just need some clarification =]
Thanks for everyones time.
~Tbestie~
tbestie said:
Hi guys. I'm hoping my post hasn't broken any forum rules... but anyway, i am very new to android, and i'm still trying to read up on/learn about rooting a phone + flashing a ROM to it. I have a few questions that i'm hoping some experienced people could answer for me =]
1. Does my HTC sensation need to have a certain update before i can try archieve S-Off? (I'm on the Three network [UK] and my software number is 1.34.771.1)
2. How easy is it to brick a device? Im good with computers, and can follow instructions, but seeing as i have no past experience with android, i'm anxious to try flash new ROMs to my phone without insurance - as £500 for a new device would kill me... =P
3. When flashing a new custom ROM to my phone, what kind of 'wipe' do i need to perform? I've read a few articles, all of which say to perform different wipes.
4. I dont understand ' Radio Flashing' could someone kindly explain that to me please?
5. What exactly does CWM backup? =P
I hope i'm not wasting anyones time here, i have read through the articles for noobs, just need some clarification =]
Thanks for everyones time.
~Tbestie~
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1. As long as you are on Android 2.3.3 there shouldnt be a problem. 2.3.4 donesnt have a S=off just yet, i think
2. Bricking is actually very hard to do, if u follow instructions you should be good
3. all you need to wip is the system data, cache, and i reccomend wiping the battery status too
4. Radio flashing is chaning your radio number. this is actually a very easy process. Dont worry about this, all you do is put a zip on ur sd card, and the phone does the rest.
5. ClockWork Mod backs up quite literally everytrhing. Think "Macrium Reflect" for a PC. Or a "Ghost Backup" for a PC.
6. I just added this. don worry about wasting peoples time. We are here to help each other like a community. Let me know if u have any other questions.
I am following this thread, and when u reply i will answer you again. So feel free to ask any more questions.
If you feel like ur ready to root just go to the Development forum and see the 1st sticky thread. Or if u ask i will send u a few links on how to root.
Alankrut said:
1. As long as you are on Android 2.3.3 there shouldnt be a problem. 2.3.4 donesnt have a S=off just yet, i think
2. Bricking is actually very hard to do, if u follow instructions you should be good
3. all you need to wip is the system data, cache, and i reccomend wiping the battery status too
4. Radio flashing is chaning your radio number. this is actually a very easy process. Dont worry about this, all you do is put a zip on ur sd card, and the phone does the rest.
5. ClockWork Mod backs up quite literally everytrhing. Think "Macrium Reflect" for a PC. Or a "Ghost Backup" for a PC.
6. I just added this. don worry about wasting peoples time. We are here to help each other like a community. Let me know if u have any other questions.
I am following this thread, and when u reply i will answer you again. So feel free to ask any more questions.
If you feel like ur ready to root just go to the Development forum and see the 1st sticky thread. Or if u ask i will send u a few links on how to root.
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Thank you very much =] Think i'll give rooting a go within the next week... just want to make my sensation that much faster and improve the battery life!
If you don't mind me asking;
What exactly is a Radio number for?
I am on android 2.3.3 , just my software number seemed different to other peoples phones =P
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
Also, say android releases 2.3.5 , im assuming i would just flash an updated ROM over the top of an older 2.3.4 ROM when it is released?
I've read through the 1st sticky a few times already, just to familiarise myself with certain words/actions =]
Finally, what is hboot =]
Thanks again for your time!
~Tbestie~
tbestie said:
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
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Clockwork Mod is just a recovery program to allow you to install new ROMs to your device, but most importantly, to let you backup and restore your current device configuration (like a sort of time machine). Most developers recommend Clockwork Mod (CWM) because it is so good at what it does. If anything fails, and you need to use your phone in a pinch, just revert to a CWM backup, and all's well!
So, to answer your question, unfortunately, no. One of the only ways to do that is with Titanium Backup, a program from the Android Market.
CWM is for reverting to previous incarnations of your phone's software and firmware.
Sorry I only answered one question, but it was the only one I knew how to in an effective manner.
Sorry, I can answer another!
tbestie said:
What exactly is a Radio number for?
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A radio is the way that your device communicates with your mobile networking. (wifi, 3G/4G, etc) Different Radio versions (numbers) work better for different people. Most developers will release a matched radio with their ROMs, which is usually what works best for them. Depending on your area, different radios may work better for you. Ultimately concerning radios, Your Mileage WILL vary. it's one of the other big trial and error pieces to flashing custom ROMs.
tbestie said:
Thank you very much =] Think i'll give rooting a go within the next week... just want to make my sensation that much faster and improve the battery life!
If you don't mind me asking;
What exactly is a Radio number for?
I am on android 2.3.3 , just my software number seemed different to other peoples phones =P
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
Also, say android releases 2.3.5 , im assuming i would just flash an updated ROM over the top of an older 2.3.4 ROM when it is released?
I've read through the 1st sticky a few times already, just to familiarise myself with certain words/actions =]
Finally, what is hboot =]
Thanks again for your time!
~Tbestie~
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Radio Number/Version is the version of ur radio. This is signal related.
So when updates come out they typically update the
radio and make the signal strength better.
This is something to be careful with, when changing ROMs
make sure that the some you are about to change into
supports ur radio version.
When u use ClockWork Mod to backup it will backup your current settings. So if u backup it consists of your rom , apps, settings, etc. so if u restore that then everything would be like the old one. So Yes, u would have the set everything back on the homescreen. Its ok, u will get used to that.
When they release android 2.3.5 you might have to "wipe" your phone and do it again. Maybe, depending on your rom, you might be able to flash on top of 2.3.4
H-Boot is similar to the Bios of the computer. And you know how carefully you have to be to change that.
But the H-Boot version that the 1st sticky says allows changing of certain things, thus allowing you to have root.
Feel free to ask away, im here to help you
Andresehn said:
Sorry, I can answer another!
A radio is the way that your device communicates with your mobile networking. (wifi, 3G/4G, etc) Different Radio versions (numbers) work better for different people. Most developers will release a matched radio with their ROMs, which is usually what works best for them. Depending on your area, different radios may work better for you. Ultimately concerning radios, Your Mileage WILL vary. it's one of the other big trial and error pieces to flashing custom ROMs.
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lol. you posted both while i was writing up my response.
Its good though, because then the OP will get to read 2 times as much, which will make him even better at the terminology and the process
Lol. I'm just trying to be helpful so i can get to posting on the Dev. forums. There are plenty of easy questions there...
Appreciating the help guys =] Starting to understand a bit better!
So when i flash a new ROM, i must flash a new Radio? If i flash the recommended radio, how likely am i to get a good signal? And if im getting poor signal, i just have to keep trying new Radios? ( I Heard flashing radios is one of the ways you can brick your device)
Also with CWM - When the backup is made... do i have to keep it on the Sd card? Or can i move it to the computer so it takes up less space?
And if i understand correctly - CWM basically creates a backup just incase things go wrong you can always revert back?
... If i use titanium backup, what benefits does that bring over CWM? - Is it worth the money?
Thanks again
~Tbestie~
Also, how do i find my hboot version?
Ive started trying to get S-Off... just be reading ahead, it says that Custom ROMs come with root already? Does that mean i just need CWM with S-Off to flash a ROM? Or do i need to Root + Do the Super-Cid thing?
tbestie said:
Also, how do i find my hboot version?
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- Hold the power button, untill you get Shut Down, Airplane Mode or Restart.
- Click on Restart then Yes.
- Wait until all the lights on your device turn off.
- Hold the Vol. Down Button until a white screen shows.
There you'll find HBOOT-XXXXXX
This is your HBOOT version.
To get to your OS again:
- Make sure FASTBOOT is hightlighted.
- Press the <Power> button.
- Go to REBOOT by pressing Vol. Down.
- Press the <Power> button.
Hope it helps
tbestie said:
Ive started trying to get S-Off... just be reading ahead, it says that Custom ROMs come with root already? Does that mean i just need CWM with S-Off to flash a ROM? Or do i need to Root + Do the Super-Cid thing?
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You don't need Root to install a custom Root.
Just S-OFF, CWM and SuperCID I believe..
Just note down your old CID before writing the new SuperCID as you may need it later if you want to flash RUU and afraid of doing something wrong
Later on, if you want to flash RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) without the fear of flashing a wrong one, you can just write the old CID to your device again
Check this post to know more
Sorry for the silly amount of posts... i cant find how to delete them!
Just so you know - I've archieved S-Off now , and installed CWM successfully.
Am i ready to flash a ROM?
-Also i have save files in games... such as FF7 - FPse , which a really dont want to lose... is their anyway i can copy them/save them somewhere ?
claudenegm said:
You don't need Root to install a custom Root.
Just S-OFF, CWM and SuperCID I believe..
Just note down your old CID before writing the new SuperCID as you may need it later if you want to flash RUU and afraid of doing something wrong
Later on, if you want to flash RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) without the fear of flashing a wrong one, you can just write the old CID to your device again
Check this post to know more
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How do i find/note down my old cid?
tbestie said:
Sorry for the silly amount of posts... i cant find how to delete them!
Just so you know - I've archieved S-Off now , and installed CWM successfully.
Am i ready to flash a ROM?
-Also i have save files in games... such as FF7 - FPse , which a really dont want to lose... is their anyway i can copy them/save them somewhere ?
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To flash a ROM, you mean Stock ROM (RUU) or Custom ROM?
If Custom Rom, please read my post #13 then do the SuperCID thing as you will need it for custom ROM..
About your saved games, the only way I know you can backup your saved data with is using Titanium Backup, which can be found in the Market.
Obviously, if you still don't know what you're doing, research more and then do whatever you want.
I take no responsibilities about anything that may happen to your phone using any of the methods above.
Good luck
tbestie said:
How do i find/note down my old cid?
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I posted all the instructions in the other link I posted.
You'll find CID: XXXXX, keep this code with you, in-case you need it later for installing RUU and confused about which one to use.
claudenegm said:
To flash a ROM, you mean Stock ROM (RUU) or Custom ROM?
If Custom Rom, please read my post #13 then do the SuperCID thing as you will need it for custom ROM..
About your saved games, the only way I know you can backup your saved data with is using Titanium Backup, which can be found in the Market.
Obviously, if you still don't know what you're doing, research more and then do whatever you want.
I take no responsibilities about anything that may happen to your phone using any of the methods above.
Good luck
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Im going to try install Android Revolution 3.0.0 =]
Starting to understand what im doing. About to make a backup using CWM. =]
*UPDATE* - Performed backup with CWM - Everything seemed to go fine... however i noticed it said ''No sd-ext found, skipping backup of sd-ext''...
Does that mean my SD card isnt backed up?
tbestie said:
Im going to try install Android Revolution 3.0.0 =]
Starting to understand what im doing. About to make a backup using CWM. =]
*UPDATE* - Performed backup with CWM - Everything seemed to go fine... however i noticed it said ''No sd-ext found, skipping backup of sd-ext''...
Does that mean my SD card isn't backed up?
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That's exactly what happened to me when I backed up.
I think you should ignore it, as it is trying to backup an extension in the SD-Card, as you can re-partition your SD-Card using CWM as I understand.
I would be pleased if someone explained to me what exactly sd-ext is and what I'm missing
Good day to you all
claudenegm said:
I would be pleased if someone explained to me what exactly sd-ext is and what I'm missing
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Ignoring it is ok. sd-ext not being backed up is most likely an indicator that an EXT4 formatted portion of your SD card was not found. By default, your SD card is formatted as FAT32 because of its universal acceptance by all OSs. Some users report a performance boost/personal preference toward EXT4, YMMV.
tbestie said:
Does that mean my SD card isnt backed up?
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Most importantly, ClockworkMod does not back up your SD card. that is something you have to do manually on your computer, should you choose to do so. CWM is only responsible for backing up the internal storage of the phone that can be changed or wiped by ROMs (or mike1986's SuperWipe.) ROMs shouldn't change the contents of the SD card.
Hi folks.
You'll have to excuse me, as I know next to nothing about putting roms and whatnot into my phone - but I am super excited about being able to learn how, etc.
I'm currently using a totally stock and normal HTC Sensation 4G and have been since roughly the time it came out with my carrier. The phone has started being... weird, so I'm looking to change things around with it.
Anyways - I've been looking around the site and trying to find what exactly is the best starting point for somebody with absolutely no experience.
I've seen some noob threads here and there, but I'm not sure if they're leading me to readying my phone to throw no a new rom. Is there just some sort of state to put my phone into and then be able to flash whatever rom is available for it?
This is what I started looking at but I'm not sure if this a good jump off or not to ready my phone for fun changes.
Thanks for being patient with me on this.
Read this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Basically, you need to S-OFF your phone, and install a new recovery. Then you can flash new roms from your new recovery.
Use the Revolutionary method in the guide to unlock your phone. Install the Clockworkmod Recovery, and Super CID if you want. That just means that you'll be able to flash a rom meant for *any* carrier, not just your own.
That's it.
59seconds said:
Read this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Basically, you need to S-OFF your phone, and install a new recovery. Then you can flash new roms from your new recovery.
Use the Revolutionary method in the guide to unlock your phone. Install the Clockworkmod Recovery, and Super CID if you want. That just means that you'll be able to flash a rom meant for *any* carrier, not just your own.
That's it.
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Thanks!
That's exactly what I needed. I plan on digging around when I get home.
Good luck. Just remember to read everything all the way through before you do anything, and make sure that you understand all of the steps. Most of the problems that people have is because they just don't read the information/guides.
59seconds said:
Good luck. Just remember to read everything all the way through before you do anything, and make sure that you understand all of the steps. Most of the problems that people have is because they just don't read the information/guides.
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Fair advice for nearly anything!
Question about doing all this...
Do I have to have my phone connected to my computer? Or is this done primarily through the phone?
You'll need to transfer over some files. Super CID requires you to run commands to your phone from your computer, but that's it. It's definitely worth it to have fastboot and adb running on your computer in case you need it.
59seconds said:
You'll need to transfer over some files. Super CID requires you to run commands to your phone from your computer, but that's it. It's definitely worth it to have fastboot and adb running on your computer in case you need it.
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Great! I will keep that in mind for when I'm there!
Is this generally a long winded process?
Nah The first time is a bit of work since you have to S-OFF your phone and install a recovery. But it's a breeze after that. So many people have done it and the xda forums are very helpful. I followed that guide the first time and had zero problems.
So, hopefully somebody will have a bit of an idea what to do here...
First things first. I'm doing this all through a bootcamp-esque program from my Macbook - and currently on Windows 7, as there's only Windows and Linux available for the Revolutionary method.
I've downloaded the program. Opened it into a folder, etc. Turned on USB debugging and done everything else the tutorial has mentioned.
Has anybody had similar issues before?
speps said:
Hi folks.
You'll have to excuse me, as I know next to nothing about putting roms and whatnot into my phone - but I am super excited about being able to learn how, etc.
I'm currently using a totally stock and normal HTC Sensation 4G and have been since roughly the time it came out with my carrier. The phone has started being... weird, so I'm looking to change things around with it.
Anyways - I've been looking around the site and trying to find what exactly is the best starting point for somebody with absolutely no experience.
I've seen some noob threads here and there, but I'm not sure if they're leading me to readying my phone to throw no a new rom. Is there just some sort of state to put my phone into and then be able to flash whatever rom is available for it?
This is what I started looking at but I'm not sure if this a good jump off or not to ready my phone for fun changes.
Thanks for being patient with me on this.
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You mentioned the phone being "weird", in what way is it weird? If this turns out to be a hardware issue or something that requires you to send the phone back to the manufacturer, rooting the phone can void your warranty (if you have any warranty left).
Please keep this in mind prior to rooting your phone. There is a way to flash your phone back to stock and return S-ON but from what I hear it is a little risky and there is a chance of bricking your phone while doing it (as with any part of the rooting process).
When following directions for rooting, I would advise you to read the whole instructions list first to ensure you have an understanding of the whole process, so you don't get stuck at any steps. Make sure you follow the guides exactly as well.
Never heard of anyone doing this through bootcamp on a MAC, but as with any compatability issues, if you have any strange issues with any of the steps it is best to use a native Windows or Linux machine to perform the rooting process.
I have never had any issues with any rooting process, for my SGS and Sensation XE using a Windows 7 64bit computer.
rickadlee said:
You mentioned the phone being "weird", in what way is it weird? If this turns out to be a hardware issue or something that requires you to send the phone back to the manufacturer, rooting the phone can void your warranty (if you have any warranty left).
Please keep this in mind prior to rooting your phone. There is a way to flash your phone back to stock and return S-ON but from what I hear it is a little risky and there is a chance of bricking your phone while doing it (as with any part of the rooting process).
When following directions for rooting, I would advise you to read the whole instructions list first to ensure you have an understanding of the whole process, so you don't get stuck at any steps. Make sure you follow the guides exactly as well.
Never heard of anyone doing this through bootcamp on a MAC, but as with any compatability issues, if you have any strange issues with any of the steps it is best to use a native Windows or Linux machine to perform the rooting process.
I have never had any issues with any rooting process, for my SGS and Sensation XE using a Windows 7 64bit computer.
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It's been doing a lot of the issues listed here - plus, the battery life is just absolute crap. I've ordered new batteries for it (the 1900mAh Anker ones people here discussed before) and taken a few other steps to try and make it work in my favour a bit more.
I was able to almost complete the S-Off process last night, although I hit a brick wall as it just continued on the "Zerging root" while using Revolutionary. Damn.
I may try again when I get home.
One thing NO ONE ever points you to do but is, in my mind, the most important thing is to try a make sure there is an RUU available for your current ROM.
An RUU (ROM Upgrade Utility) is a complete ROM from HTC which will restore your phone to stock should you need to send it back for a warranty claim.
To check for an RUU, you first need to know your current ROM version that your phone came with. Go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a note of the 'Software version' e.g. 1.50.401.3
Once you have that, go here and try to find a file name matching the version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
If you find one, download it and keep it safe
EddyOS said:
One thing NO ONE ever points you to do but is, in my mind, the most important thing is to try a make sure there is an RUU available for your current ROM.
An RUU (ROM Upgrade Utility) is a complete ROM from HTC which will restore your phone to stock should you need to send it back for a warranty claim.
To check for an RUU, you first need to know your current ROM version that your phone came with. Go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a note of the 'Software version' e.g. 1.50.401.3
Once you have that, go here and try to find a file name matching the version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
If you find one, download it and keep it safe
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I'll be sure to do that. Thanks!
Would anybody know why I keep getting stuck at the "zerging root.." portion?
Unless it usually takes a few minutes, it seems to just... hang.
As far as I can tell, everything else is set up correctly for this to work.
Hey,
Sorry if this is annoying, but I'm buying a Sensation next week and I'm confused about a few things. I've read a lot of the threads here and I'm still really confused on where to start with this phone. I'm not a total noob to android, as I have a sidekick right now but from the looks of the forums this phone is quite different with stuff like root, custom roms, etc., so I'm pretty much a complete noob with this one. So where do I start with this phone? I'm not sure in what order to do things and for some reasons I'm confused by the guide threads (what order to go in, etc.).
If anyone can help at all that'd be awesome.
Thank you!
magnoidgoat said:
Hey,
Sorry if this is annoying, but I'm buying a Sensation next week and I'm confused about a few things. I've read a lot of the threads here and I'm still really confused on where to start with this phone. I'm not a total noob to android, as I have a sidekick right now but from the looks of the forums this phone is quite different with stuff like root, custom roms, etc., so I'm pretty much a complete noob with this one. So where do I start with this phone? I'm not sure in what order to do things and for some reasons I'm confused by the guide threads (what order to go in, etc.).
If anyone can help at all that'd be awesome.
Thank you!
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Obviously you want to root the phone.. Just start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Then flash away whatever ROM you like..
Sindroid said:
Obviously you want to root the phone.. Just start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Then flash away whatever ROM you like..
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That thread is outdated and that s-off method will not work unless the phone is still on GB, if the hboot is 1.17 then you can use that guide, but if the hboot is 1.2x (x stands for any number) then use this tool and read the first post carefully http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668276
P.S To find hboot take out phone battery and then place it back in and hold the power button and volume down at the same time until you see a white screen, which should show you your hboot version at the top.
Like the person above me said, you first need to find out what Hboot is it. I have just started rooting last week, about few days ago I successfully rooted my Sensation 4G with no problems and installed Custom Rom. If your Hboot is 1.18 or lower, it easier to use the thread given above which is what I used to root my Sensation 4G which it Hboot was 1.18. If your Hboot is 1.2X, it not gonna be as easy. What I did before rooting ever, was find information about rooting, and Custom Roms, recoveries, etc. to learn more about how to root and to do it properly so you don't **** up your phone. If you follow instructions carefully, you will have no problem, trust me, rooting is piece of cake. Here is a thread that will guide you of rooting http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/221212-faq-rooting-updated-7th-april-2012-a.html#14 It will tell you mostly everything about rooting.
I am trying to attempt messing with this type of thing for the first time so noob handling will be required. My reason is simply my phone is a nice wallpaper display three days after the ota from tmobile 1.63.531.2 710rd.
I began by trying to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1505999
To no avail. Of course I noticed afterwards that for some reason it says to turn s-on in the header... exactly the opposite what what I need to flash the phone back to (PG59IMG_Doubleshot_TMOUS_1.28.531.9_Radio_10.48.9007.00U_10.12.9007.07_M2_release_201815_signed.zip) I have had problems with the phone ever since its first ota a year or so ago. With this latest ota the phone is more or less bricked as of the phone using power saver when I went to sleep last night... Wont call or check into the network...no dial tone. Took me 3-4 restarts for it to even show the antenna symbol and the 4g icon in the taskbar.
My phone is set as S-on for now. The only instructions I have found through the search tool relay how to do it to the sensation... I believe that is the mytouch 4g not slide. However I have the slide which is doubleshot. So my question is, is this instruction on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 safe to use with the doubleshot since the (T-Mobile branded HTC myTouch 4g Slide ( doubleshot ) Developers Reference) page links to it indirectly. Using the link at the top of the how to S-on after s-off... again the opposite of what I need so I tried following the link at the top of that page " Guide to Installing S-off, Unlocking, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on " which takes you to the s-off instruction page for the sensation (Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 )...I am guessing that it will work and sensation refers to HTC sense, but I don't care to make the mistake of doing it wrong and bricking my phone due to being derp.
I know there is a bit of overdone explanation and redundancy in the addresses I have left here. I am just trying to cover all my bases thanks for the help in advance.
The short and sweet is I need a link by link list with instructions on how to step my phone back for multiple reasons. First the recent OTA more or less broke my phone and I don't want a refurb phone with inferior parts from Assurion...(They were in class action lawsuits for this in the past.) nor do I want to pay 130$ for said replacement. Next from what I just read the 1.63 update has some serious security compromises that are awaiting response from HTC for an update. Basically it gives full accesses to all your data to include your sim and SD card contents to all apps. Regardless of user specified/agreed permissions.
Following ANY routine or procedure for another phone is just too dangerous & will never work anyway. The bad part being you may very well create a brick in the process. If you have the MT4G SLIDE, this is where you will get all that you need so don't even consider other threads.
Since you've done the OTA & are sitting at Hboot 1.63.XXX now you will HAVE to get S-Off before you can go back to your previous Hboot. To DO that you will have to follow the instructions HERE.
If all you are wanting to do is start flashing ROMs, then the instructions you need are HERE.
Keep us informed & we'll try to help if you need it. Good Luck!
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Following ANY routine or procedure for another phone is just too dangerous & will never work anyway. The bad part being you may very well create a brick in the process. If you have the MT4G SLIDE, this is where you will get all that you need so don't even consider other threads.
Since you've done the OTA & are sitting at Hboot 1.63.XXX now you will HAVE to get S-Off before you can go back to your previous Hboot. To DO that you will have to follow the instructions HERE.
If all you are wanting to do is start flashing ROMs, then the instructions you need are HERE.
Keep us informed & we'll try to help if you need it. Good Luck!
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Thanks for the hasty post reply any other suggestions...I have win7ult 64bit. Or will will juopunutbutter work even though they have the below disclaimer?
"Supported Operating Systems:
We only support Windows 7 32bit or Ubuntu 12.04 (and newer) 32bit, you may use a LiveCD if you have the wrong OS installed natively. Win XP 32bit might work for you but we do not support it as we did not test on it."
Also, this, "Be on the Stock RUU and be rooted (have superuser flashed). No other ROMs are supported, Fresh ROM will not work regardless of what you have read elsewhere."
-I am not rooted. Which is something else I want to accomplish so I can set up firewalls that block certain things.
Oh btw provided I can get this phone working again I am also going to attempt to reflash my older mytouch 3g... back to original as well that thing worked better than any of the current phones for my purposes before it got the update prior to the 2.2.1... the original update didn't work with adobe which is fine with me, people need to move on from adobe's garbage anyway. Specifically with the old mytough 3g though that really did add functionality at the sacrifice of sanity since it slowed the phone down so much. On that note though I may just put on a custom if I can get comfortable with this stuff. The last time I looked at a pc this hard was back in win98se when you had to know how to do tricks to make it faster like modifying available rame to twice as much above and below physical ram and a few other tweeks I have long forgotten.
That brings me to another question. If I go custom rom and unlocked this looming threat of brick is weighing in on me. If a phone is bricked is it possible to recover using some of the same tools that bricked it in the first place... flash install original rom as a fix? Just trying to see how much margin of error I have to work with.
Thanks again.
PS who do we talk to about backing off all the java on the site since it is so compromised right now? This sight has more java permissions than most sights of ill reput... though I have been reading these forums off and on for a while so I trust it more than most with this much tracking. I doubt patch 11 actually fixed the issue...since the day before they said it would take two years or more to actually resolve the java zero day exploit.
You should be fine with your pc, I used a 64bit win7 too. If you're worried dual boot linux.
Your my touch 3g is rooted diferentley, go to that forum for details, its not true radio soff but its close enough.
If you brick it its dead, depending how it was bricked jtag could bring it back to life or this phone is part of the unbricking project which will fix some other bricks. Problem is people use brick as a term that means a whole lot of things so its hard to answer. Usually a brick is forever dead, most people don't actually brick their phone though and usually have to be neglecting things to do it.
As for java... just read up on a bunch of trustworthy places for more info and understanding
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I'm afraid I just don't know about Win 7 64bit and how it will react but I'm sure there has to be a person or two around with experience concerning that OS. It may very well work fine. I CAN tell you that the "wire trick" (junoptobear?) will work fine on MikTouch because that's what I used. It's a stripped down GB stock ROM which is all you're really looking for. Why....I don't know.
As far as bricking goes, there's not a GREAT deal to worry about as long as you follow all instructions to a tee. You REALLY don't have to even have S-Off to flash ROMs as you read in that link. You just need to flash the kernel after you flash the ROM. It WILL limit a few things you can do but not ROM flashing.
When it comes to rescueing a bricked device though, there are only a very few instances that can be done as far as I know. But I'm no developer either. But if you can make it to your bootloader and/or recovery you not bricked. It may be a hardware of software issue but most of the time you can come back from those.
As far as the Java issue you spoke of goes, you may be able to get an answer to that one by PM'ing one of our moderators or admins.
I want to step it back to previous versions because they worked better...primarily the first version... Also, I am not seeing a guide that refers to doing it to the 1.63 patch. keyboard hasn't swyped right since the first ota update. Also my intent is to root an older version so I can remove crapware like dt sync, friend stream, kidzone, tmobile mall, tmobile tv, tmobile setup, telenav gps, and zinio reader.
X-Lander said:
I want to step it back to previous versions because they worked better...primarily the first version... Also, I am not seeing a guide that refers to doing it to the 1.63 patch. keyboard hasn't swyped right since the first ota update. Also my intent is to root an older version so I can remove crapware like dt sync, friend stream, kidzone, tmobile mall, tmobile tv, tmobile setup, telenav gps, and zinio reader.
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It's a simple flashing process but you HAVE to achieve S-Off first with the "Wire Trick". You can flash it forward without S-Off but not backwards. Does it work at all or is it just frozen to some point in the boot process? Can you access your SDcard? Can you boot to Hboot & recovery? These are a couple of things you will have to be able to do to go forward if I understand you correctly.