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OTA_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.45.401.2-1.35.401.1_P2_release_208907g5uh7vz2hurkpjkl.zip (4

OTA 2.3.4 update files.
http://www.woofiles.com/dl-258481-1...1.35.401.1P2release208907g5uh7vz2hurkpjkl.zip

guess no one's awake yet to appreciate this. lol. i'll go ahead & do it for everyone else...
WOOT!

Available via software update. Any changelog?

slavislavi said:
Available via software update. Any changelog?
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ive never seen a changelog from HTC ^^

Android 2.3.4 adds videocalling if I am correct. But we I don't have the official rom on my phone so it's worthless for now. Let's hope some cooks will cook up new roms out of this one.

pardon my ignorance, just jumped ship from BB to android. can someone explain why this release is a big deal? does this release mean that a new slew of ROMs are gonna be slated to come out due to changes in optimization?

after OTA update

Redshark976 said:
OTA 2.3.4 update files.
http://www.woofiles.com/dl-258481-1...1.35.401.1P2release208907g5uh7vz2hurkpjkl.zip
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thank you. i will update my rom in the next hours. thq

luckyduck69 said:
guess no one's awake yet to appreciate this. lol. i'll go ahead & do it for everyone else...
WOOT!
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hee haaa! (pronounced as Richard Pryor did!)
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I tried to install it over the air but just get a white sign with yellow exclamation mark and a blue android :/
What can i do about it?
i got S-OFF but default ROM with some deaktivatet apps.
UPDATE:
nevermind fixed it. maybe i will post a short tutorial.

almost forgot. got to ask this before someone else does so we can just get it out of the way....
what's the battery life like?

dacleric said:
I tried to install it over the air but just get a white sign with yellow exclamation mark and a blue android :/
What can i do about it?
i got S-OFF but default ROM with some deaktivatet apps.
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I have the same problem..

Regarding S-OFF phones..
Redshark976 said:
I have the same problem..
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Just have a little bit of patience.. It seems S-OFF phones can't flash this, S-ON can. However, while you can turn S-ON again and flash the ROM, chances are you are not going to be able to make it S-OFF again because HTC fixed an exploit used. Just wait for a few hours 'til someone uploads this ROM to XDA as a ZIP file without HTC's bootloader. For example Baad just stated he'll be updating InsertCoin based on this OTA update. That way, you can keep S-OFF and still have the new ROM.

dacleric said:
I tried to install it over the air but just get a white sign with yellow exclamation mark and a blue android :/
What can i do about it?
i got S-OFF but default ROM with some deaktivatet apps.
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Once rooted and S-OFF, you NEVER EVER install an official HTC RUU. It could patch the root/S-OFF exploit. Don't be impatient and wait for Chefs to cook some ROMs, or face the consequences.
I'll suggest you just flash back your previous ROM, if it's still possible.
f.

Uploaded to Multiupload for additional links.

forelli said:
Once rooted and S-OFF, you NEVER EVER install an official HTC RUU. It could patch the root/S-OFF exploit. Don't be impatient and wait for Chefs to cook some ROMs, or face the consequences.
I'll suggest you just flash back your previous ROM, if it's still possible.
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for your information this is what bootloader mode look like, if you note where it did say revolutionary it now says "locked"

This is obviously the new hboot that HTC are using now, i can only assume it would change to *** UNLOCKED *** when using the web tool from HTC (although the above phone is already S-OFF)

Mine is also saying that now, gonna have to wait on either the Revo guys to crack it or do the HTC stuff - it does still say S-OFF though

EddyOS said:
Mine is also saying that now, gonna have to wait on either the Revo guys to crack it or do the HTC stuff - it does still say S-OFF though
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get this http://81.89.105.12/~bin4ry/hboot/PG58IMG.zip
place it on sdcard, reboot in bootloader
done

DL doesn't work... file has only 176B

[Q] Froyo------>Gingerbread BUT!!!!

Ok So back in the day I used the ace hack kit so I was happily on froyo me specs are:
Android Version 2.2.1
Kernel Version 2.6.32.21-g3c08447
Software Number Inspired DHD AFR003
so now as I remember I did the s-off rooted and unlocked but need to go back to stock firmware (IDK just want it) so att made the update to gingerbread so my question is:
If I update like the way the htc page tells me to will it brick my phone ?
and if not what do I have to do?
ive just been out of it and im a little back behind but I find posts with other things than this thanks in advance guys!

Check out this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1208507
It has all the instructions and tools you need to return to stock.

but I cant just execute the htc update and what would happen my main concern is messing up my phone by just updating to the official Gingerbread I am on still on the same specs

Yes you can just flash the gingerbread ruu. You will be stock but still have soff which is fine unless you were going to do some kind of warranty claim then I would suggest gong son aswell

0riginal.mv said:
but I cant just execute the htc update and what would happen my main concern is messing up my phone by just updating to the official Gingerbread I am on still on the same specs
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Do you mean the OTA update, or the RUU from HTC's website? If the former, then no, you can't unless you are running a rock-stock froyo ROM (it will abort before doing anything). If the latter, then yes, you can run it, but it will wipe everything.

RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_Cingular_US_2.47.502.7_Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_200368_signed.exe
thats the file I really dont care of the features I use im just wondering if i'll mess up my phone plus I just want to know what ill keep and what ill lose in terms of the s-off and I know ill lose the unlock

0riginal.mv said:
RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_Cingular_US_2.47.502.7_Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_200368_signed.exe
thats the file I really dont care of the features I use im just wondering if i'll mess up my phone plus I just want to know what ill keep and what ill lose in terms of the s-off and I know ill lose the unlock
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Flashing ghe htc OTA update while you are S-Off will not work. Found this out the hard way back when I first started messing with phones
You can un root your phone and put S-On and update it to gingerbread but I don't think you'll be able to root it as I believe the hack kit requires you to downgrade firmware anyway.
Best bet is to just flash a gingerbread rom. If your trying to keep sense I would suggest the rom virtuous unity.
Has sense 3.0 with a load of new features and is gingerbread I believe.
Either way, best of luck. Hope this helps
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Thanks Solved My Answer Now To Move On To Virtuous Unity

0riginal.mv said:
Thanks Solved My Answer Now To Move On To Virtuous Unity
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No problem, and you won't regret it I promise!
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium

Choosing the right RUU

Hi,
I'm currently running Ordroid on my Sensation but have decided I want to go back to the stock Sensation ROM - the gingerbread one that was on the phone when I bought it (ie unrooted) and have found the list of RUUs but am a bit daunted as to which one to choose!
I'm from the UK and the phone was bought unlocked (had never been locked to a network) so which RUU do I choose from the list for the most up to date official gingerbread rom?
This is the list I've found:
www.filefactory.com/f/c87a2330449af512/
Also, with me being on ICS currently and wanting to downgrade to GB, do I need to flash a new radio or RIL before running the RUU or does the RUU contain the necessary radio/prerequisites to run without anything else?
Thanks in anticipation!
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

Download CIDgetter from the market.
It should show you the original CID.
I have enclosed a couple of files that show the CID and from that you can look at the other list to get the right RUU. I cannot vouch 100% for the info in the files but then seem to have been correct so far.
The only ones I have personally used are:
CID - VODAP001 RUU - x.xx.161.xxxxxxxxx (Vodafone UK)
CID - HTC__001 RUU - x.xx.401.xxxxxxxxx (WWE "World Wide English")
The WWE one does not have the carrier bloatware so a good starting point.
SuperCID is "11111111" which enables you to install any RUU.

That's a massive help, thank you ever so much!
My CID is HTC_001 so am installing an ICS x.xx.401.xxx one which is HTC_Europe
Fingers crossed that one will work
Thanks again!

I should have included:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Pyramid
It has 3.32.401.xxxxxx (ICS)
GL
EDIT: Are you S-OFF ?

gol_n_dal said:
I should have included:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Pyramid
It has 3.32.401.xxxxxx (ICS)
GL
EDIT: Are you S-OFF ?
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I just installed RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.33.401.6_Radio_11.76A.3504.00U_11.24A.3504.31_M_release_266171_signed.exe which I think is the latest version, am I right in thinking now that I'm running the same ROM that someone who had never rooted their phone/installed custom ROMs would be running?
I was S-OFF but as I've just installed a stock ROM I'm back to S-ON. The only reason I've done this is I was kinda dissatisfied with the performance of my Sensation; it was taking about a second to return to home when pressing home, apps took a few seconds to load where on another android phone I have (much less powerful than the Sensation) they were loading instantly. Thought returning to stock might alleviate the lag. It seems to have done that a bit, but it still feels a bit clunky and the screen overheats so much at the bottom! I knew this was a problem some people were getting but thought again that going back to stock would cure the problem - apparently not! Very tempted to send a letter/make a phonecall to HTC asking why a £330 phone is lagging and overheating when a £100 Huawei I have runs better than it!
Anyway, I'm rambling and going off-topic!
tl;dr is my phone's working okay but not quite as fast/cool as I'd hoped
Thanks again for your help

You're probably:
S-OFF but locked.
If you were S-OFF you will still be.
Look for the XDA thread (can't remember the title) "User Friendly Firmware " and get an unlocked/revolutionary HBOOT.
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lifeisfaked said:
I just installed RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.33.401.6_Radio_11.76A.3504.00U_11.24A.3504.31_M_release_266171_signed.exe which I think is the latest version, am I right in thinking now that I'm running the same ROM that someone who had never rooted their phone/installed custom ROMs would be running?
I was S-OFF but as I've just installed a stock ROM I'm back to S-ON. The only reason I've done this is I was kinda dissatisfied with the performance of my Sensation; it was taking about a second to return to home when pressing home, apps took a few seconds to load where on another android phone I have (much less powerful than the Sensation) they were loading instantly. Thought returning to stock might alleviate the lag. It seems to have done that a bit, but it still feels a bit clunky and the screen overheats so much at the bottom! I knew this was a problem some people were getting but thought again that going back to stock would cure the problem - apparently not! Very tempted to send a letter/make a phonecall to HTC asking why a £330 phone is lagging and overheating when a £100 Huawei I have runs better than it!
Anyway, I'm rambling and going off-topic!
tl;dr is my phone's working okay but not quite as fast/cool as I'd hoped
Thanks again for your help
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I'm using CM10 from Bruce's kang, Have a try.
It's AOSP so doesn't have the Sense baggage.
Ensure yu are fully S-OFF before you change anything.

I am currently on a sense 4 Rom running 3.33 firmware is it possible for me to go back to gingerbread as I hate all the lag
FYI I am S-Off, unlocked bootloader and super CID
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

Yes, if you are S-OFF install a GB firmware and then install a GB custom ROM.
OR just install a GB RUU.

[Q] Reasons for RUU not working?

I took my HTC One S to the HTC Care shop to flash the Stock ROM. After 3 hours when I returned back the guy told me No cant do with no explanation. He said there was some hardware issue. I had handed over the phone with OEM relocked. After getting it back I restored it back to the backup of I had and looks like as it was when I had given it to them.
I have not faced any issues with the phone, just wanted to update the version from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4. I do not have my stock backup.
What are the known causes a RUU not working? I am planning on getting the RUU from someone on the forum but do want to get the wrong version or something. My specs are in my signature. If someone can tell me what exactly I need to look for when getting an RUU. Also does the HBOOT need to be the same that you own or can be higher to flash?
I am thinking that the idiots at HTC do not have the right ROM and hence asking me to deposit the phone in order to cover their own tracks. But thats just being hopeful. Can anyone help??

fatpanda0 said:
I took my HTC One S to the HTC Care shop to flash the Stock ROM. After 3 hours when I returned back the guy told me No cant do with no explanation. He said there was some hardware issue. I had handed over the phone with OEM relocked. After getting it back I restored it back to the backup of I had and looks like as it was when I had given it to them.
I have not faced any issues with the phone, just wanted to update the version from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4. I do not have my stock backup.
What are the known causes a RUU not working? I am planning on getting the RUU from someone on the forum but do want to get the wrong version or something. My specs are in my signature. If someone can tell me what exactly I need to look for when getting an RUU. Also does the HBOOT need to be the same that you own or can be higher to flash?
I am thinking that the idiots at HTC do not have the right ROM and hence asking me to deposit the phone in order to cover their own tracks. But thats just being hopeful. Can anyone help??
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If you can root then you could SuperCID which would let you use any RUU.

Darknites said:
If you can root then you could SuperCID which would let you use any RUU.
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There is no S-OFF on HOS. The process for SuperCID is not out for HTC One S (S3). The posts have been quite explicit that the process mentioned will brick this version.

fatpanda0 said:
There is no S-OFF on HOS. The process for SuperCID is not out for HTC One S (S3). The posts have been quite explicit that the process mentioned will brick this version.
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Sorry missed that you on S3 sorry.

RUU
fatpanda0 said:
I took my HTC One S to the HTC Care shop to flash the Stock ROM. After 3 hours when I returned back the guy told me No cant do with no explanation. He said there was some hardware issue. I had handed over the phone with OEM relocked. After getting it back I restored it back to the backup of I had and looks like as it was when I had given it to them.
I have not faced any issues with the phone, just wanted to update the version from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4. I do not have my stock backup.
What are the known causes a RUU not working? I am planning on getting the RUU from someone on the forum but do want to get the wrong version or something. My specs are in my signature. If someone can tell me what exactly I need to look for when getting an RUU. Also does the HBOOT need to be the same that you own or can be higher to flash?
I am thinking that the idiots at HTC do not have the right ROM and hence asking me to deposit the phone in order to cover their own tracks. But thats just being hopeful. Can anyone help??
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I had a similar problem a couple months ago. I tried almost every RUU available but luckily i managed to find one that worked, its called "OTA_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5-1.78.401.2_release_275773ape8z1mahr0gt8fg". What a mouthful right lol, i'm not 100% sure it'll work for you because you have an S3 chip but it's worth a try. You can find it on filefactory and btw make sure your bootloader is locked.
Hope this helps

lonegunman0 said:
I had a similar problem a couple months ago. I tried almost every RUU available but luckily i managed to find one that worked, its called "OTA_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5-1.78.401.2_release_275773ape8z1mahr0gt8fg". What a mouthful right lol, i'm not 100% sure it'll work for you because you have an S3 chip but it's worth a try. You can find it on filefactory and btw make sure your bootloader is locked.
Hope this helps
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All I am on HTC India. But what I am unable to understand is why would the HTC Service Center be unable to flash either??!!

fatpanda0 said:
All I am on HTC India. But what I am unable to understand is why would the HTC Service Center be unable to flash either??!!
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If they can't fix it they need to replace it.

Darknites said:
If they can't fix it they need to replace it.
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Well considering that its rooted and on a custom ROM do I still have the right to demand a replacement. Plus the service center ppl say it will take a month for them to get a verdict back. So was hoping to exhaust all options before taking the final step.

fatpanda0 said:
Well considering that its rooted and on a custom ROM do I still have the right to demand a replacement. Plus the service center ppl say it will take a month for them to get a verdict back. So was hoping to exhaust all options before taking the final step.
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I just don't see how you going to do it if they can't. Try getting them to try again and if they still can't get it to work then have them send it off. Or just not care about it and update to a rom that has 4.0.4.

Darknites said:
I just don't see how you going to do it if they can't. Try getting them to try again and if they still can't get it to work then have them send it off. Or just not care about it and update to a rom that has 4.0.4.
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dude thats exactly what i wanna do. i really dont need stock. just need to update to 4.0.4 so that i can use a custom rom. HOS has this issue that you cant update to 4.0.4 straight up. Need to get upgrade to stock 4.0.4 then revert back to any other ROM.
As you can see its totally effed up!

fatpanda0 said:
dude thats exactly what i wanna do. i really dont need stock. just need to update to 4.0.4 so that i can use a custom rom. HOS has this issue that you cant update to 4.0.4 straight up. Need to get upgrade to stock 4.0.4 then revert back to any other ROM.
As you can see its totally effed up!
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I don't understand your issue, are you saying you can't use a 4.0.4 rom because I don't see why you can't I have done it and I don't see why it wouldn't work on the S3 too.

Darknites said:
I don't understand your issue, are you saying you can't use a 4.0.4 rom because I don't see why you can't I have done it and I don't see why it wouldn't work on the S3 too.
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Did you do it after upgrading your stock to 4.0.4 or before it? Cuz last time I checked you CAN NOT use a custom 4.0.4 based ROM on a 4.0.3 based HOS. There is an HBOOT conflict. Anyways there are practically only 2 ROMs available for the HTC One S (S3). The TD v4 gives me bootloops (tried and failed) and the other is mcOneS3 which I havent tried but have in good faith that I WONT WORK before! reference to post #8
So if you have found a workaround I am all ears, (eyes in this case)!!

fatpanda0 said:
Did you do it after upgrading your stock to 4.0.4 or before it? Cuz last time I checked you CAN NOT use a custom 4.0.4 based ROM on a 4.0.3 based HOS. There is an HBOOT conflict. Anyways there are practically only 2 ROMs available for the HTC One S (S3). The TD v4 gives me bootloops (tried and failed) and the other is mcOneS3 which I havent tried but have in good faith that I WONT WORK before! reference to post #8
So if you have found a workaround I am all ears, (eyes in this case)!!
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Ya 4.0.4 worked fine on 4.0.3 and now 4.1.1 works on 4.0.4 so guess HTC really have screwed you guys over.

Darknites said:
Ya 4.0.4 worked fine on 4.0.3 and now 4.1.1 works on 4.0.4 so guess HTC really have screwed you guys over.
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Tell me about it. its not a bad phone but the lack of options customize like custom ROMs really pisses me off. You have just given me one more to hate the S3 version!!
well just waiting for a 4.0.4 nandroid from someone to see if that works. else will personally ask football for an RUU.

Your One S must be having a higher hboot version than their RUU at htc service centre. Downgrade your hboot version to stock for RUU to work properly.

Merrymustu said:
Your One S must be having a higher hboot version than their RUU at htc service centre. Downgrade your hboot version to stock for RUU to work properly.
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So If I have a RUU with correct CID but a higher HBOOT version I am good to go??

The hboot version of the RUU should be the same or higher than you currently have in order for it to work. The CID should also be the same that is _038 in our case. If you find a suitable RUU please post a link to the upload, we Indians are in a dire need of an RUU.

Merrymustu said:
The hboot version of the RUU should be the same or higher than you currently have in order for it to work. The CID should also be the same that is _038 in our case. If you find a suitable RUU please post a link to the upload, we Indians are in a dire need of an RUU.
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you bet. I have spoken to football and he says it can be obtained, but at a price! So making sure that I get the right one. Also just heard that we may be getting JB sometime in future. Shot a mail to HTC today to see when it will be available. Lets see!! If they say more than 3 months then might as well get that bloody RUU. Hating this disabled feeling.
PS: are you on One S too?? Are you rooted? if so can you upload me your stock backup??????

You two should go half's on the RUU if you do get it.

Darknites said:
You two should go half's on the RUU if you do get it.
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hmm that will be easier on the pocket.:good: Is there a way to enable subscription just by replying to a post. It is so difficult to keep track of where you have been. I tried helping a dude earlier and completely forgot the post heading now, I doubt i will be going back there unless I have a message somewhere telling me that I am needed! Do you get what i mean?

[Q] Can Rooted and Unlocked xl get OTA update?

If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
T

as long as you stay on the stock room you should get the OTA update. Issue though is, you might lose root and possibly your unlock

trevorb21 said:
If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
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If you're going to root and unlock, you should forget about OTAs. You may get one, but taking it when you're rooted can brick your phone. There's no need to take one anyway, since pre-rooted versions usually show up in the Development section that day.

If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it

Thanks all... actually went back to CM 10 last night. I had relocked and everything hoping for an update someday but I couldn't help it and had to go back to Cm. Battery life seems much better on the latest nightly compared to the stable version.
Sent from my One X using xda app-developers app

If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

tlazarus said:
If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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I bricked after relocking and running ruu but to be fair I downgraded my hboot to 1.09 and am not sure if that had anything to do with it.. good luck..dunno why you would want the ota anyway.

It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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tlazarus said:
It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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I have noticed that typically when things are not stable right away for me it was a bad download or just a bad flash. A stock based ROM like viper has always been stable for me and am currently using paranoid android also perfectly stable. In any case, once the source for the ota is released devs will most likely use that as a base for their next upgrades so I really wouldn't worry about it.

mirGantrophy said:
If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
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My CID is 11111111 and I have taken many OTA's. I have switched and changed ROM's and reRUU'ed many times. From Hong Kong to German to Telstra. Taking OTA's all over the place. I would say my phone has at least done 8 official HTC OTA's.
Not once has it bricked.
Is it some check AT&T ROM's do?
Personally I have found unlocked bootloader and supercid do not effect an OTA. Modifications to /system are more likely to be troublesome. They are likely to be lost or could even make the update fail.

See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.

tlazarus said:
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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You're just unintelligent...

tlazarus said:
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
Sent from my HTC One XL

954wrecker said:
Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
Sent from my HTC One XL
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.

tlazarus said:
Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Thank you for giving me a good laugh... The forums being kind and your intelligence level are directly proportional...because you're a stuck up noob you are getting the treatment you deserve...and your type is for the iPhone or better yet a flip phone from a couple years back you won't have to worry about software changes on that...I'm still kind curious what you're trying to get at? I'm a bit confused how you're comparing hardware and ruu and ota

Okay, really not sure how I am a stuck up noob. Or unintelligent, as I am perfectly capable of reading lots of threads where people who seem to know what they are talking about argue over one's ability to go back to stock using a RUU. I was merely looking for confirmation from more than one person that I could go back to stock using a RUU and then apply the OTA if necessary. My point was simply that if something came out that was not possible to implement via a ROM - i.e. a radio update, I wanted the ability to flash it. Without downgrading hboot, it appears that anyone with hboot 1.14 is STUCK WITH THEIR PRESENT RADIO. There is conflicting info out there regarding one's ability to go back to stock using an RUU and then apply the OTA in the future, and I was merely trying to confirm that this was possible. If you look in this thread, you will see one person say it is perfectly safe, and another that it will brick the phone. Care to decide who is right? I generally like to get a few opinions before I task a risk, but apparently you don't get that. It is a perfectly reasonable question.

Here's a straight answer.... That's a bit risky going back to stock through ruu than applying an ota I've seen many people brick that way idk if it's just because the cid is 11111111 or whatever but there's something in the system that the ota doesn't like and than rejects..though I do not see the point of doing an ota esepcially many involve huge security updates ie hboot as you stated which will probably result in no root. . I can confidently assure you att will bring out a new nazi hboot out with the jb update too...so my advice would be to stick to non stock and enjoy

Thanks - I appreciate the response. Still a bit concerned about being stuck on my present radio, but perhaps that will get resolved in the future. Have a great weekend.

I'm sire your aware but you can downgrade hboot

Thanks, yes. I've read the entire downgrade thread a few times. It appears that more than one person has bricked their phone, and that isn't a risk I can take right now.