(Q) best development at&t phone ? - Motorola Atrix 2

What current phone under at&t has the most developing going on?
I upgraded from my Xperia x10 which had awesome development to the atrix 2 and the dev scene is not great .I'm a flashaholic and love changing my phone up so I'm considering buying a new one.question is which one?
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rdavisct said:
What current phone under at&t has the most developing going on?
I upgraded from my Xperia x10 which had awesome development to the atrix 2 and the dev scene is not great .I'm a flashaholic and love changing my phone up so I'm considering buying a new one.question is which one?
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HTC inspire has pretty good development going on. I have that phone besidesthe ATRIX 2. Im a flashaholic too and I flash like crazy on that phone waiting and hoping development picks up for this phone! Kinda upset I got rid of my of ATRIX. Cause now a lot of development is goin on for that too.

The Inspire is old, though.

Douchewithaphone said:
The Inspire is old, though.
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Im pretty sure the phones with the BEST development and going to be kinda old...

My vote would be either the international SGSII or one of its variants (I have i777 and things always seem to be booming over there).

Go get a Samsung phone, whichever is the latest one that AT&T has. They always have a TON of developers.
You know on the other hand you could just put in some time and learn and get some great ROMs in the process, lfaber06, cogery, and myself could really use the help, and it really is not all that hard, if you know anything about phones and flashing, and some about computers.
There is a thread in the development section on the tools needed to do this.

jimbridgman said:
Go get a Samsung phone, whichever is the latest one that AT&T has. They always have a TON of developers.
You know on the other hand you could just put in some time and learn and get some great ROMs in the process, lfaber06, cogery, and myself could really use the help, and it really is not all that hard, if you know anything about phones and flashing, and some about computers.
There is a thread in the development section on the tools needed to do this.
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I would love to learn more about development, but at 52 it's all a bit overwhelming at times. I may have to find something in the 250.00 dollar range and try though.

jimbridgman said:
Go get a Samsung phone, whichever is the latest one that AT&T has. They always have a TON of developers.
You know on the other hand you could just put in some time and learn and get some great ROMs in the process, lfaber06, cogery, and myself could really use the help, and it really is not all that hard, if you know anything about phones and flashing, and some about computers.
There is a thread in the development section on the tools needed to do this.
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I am considering it greatly .I'm going to start reading up on it.i am skilled in Photoshop and have no problems Modding/theming roms.pretty much anything graphical .i posted some mods past couple days in the themes section.but it ends there . Creating actual roms or porting i need to research,I'd love to contribute so ill look into tonight when home .
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rdavisct said:
I am considering it greatly .I'm going to start reading up on it.i am skilled in Photoshop and have no problems Modding/theming roms.pretty much anything graphical .i posted some mods past couple days in the themes section.but it ends there . Creating actual roms or porting i need to research,I'd love to contribute so ill look into tonight when home .
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BTW here is the link on the toold needed to build ROMs for our phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404442
And if you think you are up for it, sound off in the link below, then PM lfaber06 and I, we are collecting people to help with some dev work, and are going to make some task assignments in the next couple weeks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428117

jimbridgman said:
BTW here is the link on the toold needed to build ROMs for our phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404442
And if you think you are up for it, sound off in the link below, then PM lfaber06 and I, we are collecting people to help with some dev work, and are going to make some task assignments in the next couple weeks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428117
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I have a question .hope u can help.i cooked a rom with kitchenbfrom stock 2.3.6 rooted as base but when i make a flashable zip and try n install it ,it says "error code 0" any suggestions? I used updater-script for cwm since i know update script isn't capatible.
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rdavisct said:
I have a question .hope u can help.i cooked a rom with kitchenbfrom stock 2.3.6 rooted as base but when i make a flashable zip and try n install it ,it says "error code 0" any suggestions? I used updater-script for cwm since i know update script isn't capatible.
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I replied to your PM with everything you need to do...

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[Q] MIUI , what if ...

Hi guys
I would appreciate if someone [dev] can give me some answers on this ...
Now that we have full CWM , thanks to the devs [@gtg465x]
How about following instructions to flash lastest MIUI for Galaxy S I9000 , using the actual installation guide > http://j.mp/iZSjlh , and try this ROM on the Infuse
Is the Galaxy S I9000 the closest phone [specs] we can have to try this ?
Some step(s) in that guide to be replaced or skipped ?
Worth to try it?
Would it work ?
Would I brick the phone?
I if brick it , would I still be able to un-brick using ODIN [back to factory]
TIA
pvillasuso said:
Hi guys
I would appreciate if someone [dev] can give me some answers on this ...
Now that we have full CWM , thanks to the devs [@gtg465x]
How about following instructions to flash lastest MIUI for Galaxy S I9000 , using the actual installation guide > http://j.mp/iZSjlh , and try this ROM on the Infuse
Is the Galaxy S I9000 the closest phone [specs] we can have to try this ?
Some step(s) in that guide to be replaced or skipped ?
Worth to try it?
Would it work ?
Would I brick the phone?
I if brick it , would I still be able to un-brick using ODIN [back to factory]
TIA
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Would be very interested in this as well, but not enough to try bricking my phone .
I wouldn't try it.
Just because the partition layout of the original Galaxy S is the same as our device, it does not mean the kernel is compatible.
The current roms are all based on the stock kernel and do not change any of the core of how the device works. We still have TouchWiz built in and won't be changing that until we have custom kernel built and working on this device.
On the other hand, we can flash back to stock with Odin, so you won't completely fubar your phone if you try.
knight4led said:
I wouldn't try it.
Just because the partition layout of the original Galaxy S is the same as our device, it does not mean the kernel is compatible.
The current roms are all based on the stock kernel and do not change any of the core of how the device works. We still have TouchWiz built in and won't be changing that until we have custom kernel built and working on this device.
On the other hand, we can flash back to stock with Odin, so you won't completely fubar your phone if you try.
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Your right about kernel compatibility , so 1st step not using speedmod kernel [used @ guide]
But I would like to know if the native MIUI kernel used @ the galaxy S is like a "modded kernel" they used to port that rom .. or if its a kind of "universal kernel" ?? . I dont know if Im making myself clear
knight4led said:
I wouldn't try it.
Just because the partition layout of the original Galaxy S is the same as our device, it does not mean the kernel is compatible.
The current roms are all based on the stock kernel and do not change any of the core of how the device works. We still have TouchWiz built in and won't be changing that until we have custom kernel built and working on this device.
On the other hand, we can flash back to stock with Odin, so you won't completely fubar your phone if you try.
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If the partition layout changes, cannot promise Odin will fix it. Pit, boot.bin and sbl.bin pulled from a phone to flash will most likely cause a hard brick. We need a leaked one-click, or some very crazy testers willing to brick phones left and right to test that. I don't recommend it.
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h8rift said:
If the partition layout changes, cannot promise Odin will fix it. Pit, boot.bin and sbl.bin pulled from a phone to flash will most likely cause a hard brick. We need a leaked one-click, or some very crazy testers willing to brick phones left and right to test that. I don't recommend it.
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Thanks for that information , exactly what I wanted to read ...
Time to close this thread [MODS please] , and wait for someone who can make this happen !
pvillasuso said:
Thanks for that information , exactly what I wanted to read ...
Time to close this thread [MODS please] , and wait for someone who can make this happen !
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Not a problem. When a new phone comes out....here's what happens:
1. Root
2. SBF/ODIN
3. CWM recovery
4. Psuedo ROMs based on stock.
5. Source Code drops.
6. Custom kernels (w/CWM built in)
7. Ports for MIUI/CM7/Sense/etc.
In 3 weeks, the community as a whole has completely done steps 1-5. (Usually takes a couple of months).
Next big focus has to be custom kernels. I helped out with some of the initial stuff for CM7 on Captivate before I bought an Atrix, then the Infuse. I'm going to be doing alot of reading and trying to learn alot more about git. Then I will be able to look into kernels. Team Whiskey had some guys working on a kernel with CWM + VooDoo lagfix written up...but I havent heard anything in a few days. So....be patient, its coming! .
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h8rift said:
Not a problem. When a new phone comes out....here's what happens:
1. Root
2. SBF/ODIN
3. CWM recovery
4. Psuedo ROMs based on stock.
5. Source Code drops.
6. Custom kernels (w/CWM built in)
7. Ports for MIUI/CM7/Sense/etc.
In 3 weeks, the community as a whole has completely done steps 1-5. (Usually takes a couple of months).
Next big focus has to be custom kernels. I helped out with some of the initial stuff for CM7 on Captivate before I bought an Atrix, then the Infuse. I'm going to be doing alot of reading and trying to learn alot more about git. Then I will be able to look into kernels. Team Whiskey had some guys working on a kernel with CWM + VooDoo lagfix written up...but I havent heard anything in a few days. So....be patient, its coming! .
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You are indeed one of the MAN, I speak for my self thanks dude
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h8rift said:
When a new phone comes out....here's what happens:
1. Root
2. SBF/ODIN
3. CWM recovery
4. Psuedo ROMs based on stock.
5. Source Code drops.
6. Custom kernels (w/CWM built in)
7. Ports for MIUI/CM7/Sense/etc.
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Very interesting info , thanks for sharing , didn't know the order of these steps to follow ..
We are closer then ! cool , cant wait to run MIUI @ Infuse
Like others said, we will need a custom kernel for MIUI. However, the Infuse is very similar to the original Galaxy S. I bet it would be really easy to port 2.2.1 Galaxy S ROMs. They would probably boot right up and work fine if you just remove the kernel from them and swap out a few files (ril, camera libs, key layouts).
gtg465x said:
Like others said, we will need a custom kernel for MIUI. However, the Infuse is very similar to the original Galaxy S. I bet it would be really easy to port 2.2.1 Galaxy S ROMs. They would probably boot right up and work fine if you just remove the kernel from them and swap out a few files (ril, camera libs, key layouts).
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Hey I have one theme in mind, can you give me the details of these files?
(Wait do themes even mess with these files?)
Key layouts I got...
Camera libs? where are those located?
ril? what is that and where?
Thanks much appreciated.
-Ken
slider2828 said:
Hey I have one theme in mind, can you give me the details of these files?
(Wait do themes even mess with these files?)
Key layouts I got...
Camera libs? where are those located?
ril? what is that and where?
Thanks much appreciated.
-Ken
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I'm used to HTC devices so I can't tell you the exact names of the ril and camera libs on a Samsung device without looking, but they will be in /system/lib. You may also have to swap a few files in /system/etc. Just takes research and then trial and error. I suggest grabbing a GS 2.2.1 ROM, removing the kernal (and modem if that's included) (will have to remove corresponding parts of updater-script as well), and then flashing. Adb logcat will help you to debug and fix issues from there.
Hell id donate an InFuSe to a miui dev that would make it happen!
I run miui on my Desire HD and wont use anything else, ever...
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Once we get kernel source and a working CM7 build for it, my team is able to port MIUI to it
Well... once we get a device that is
We have been looking for a new device to port MIUI to. If there is enough demand for the Infuse 4G we'll pick one up.
If you guys manage to get it ported we'll create a device forum for you and host your roms, etc. If you need porting help/advice, or just want to talk about MIUI, join our IRC channel #miui-us on Freenode (details in my signature) and look for someone with a + in front of their name (those are the developers).
Anyway, hope to see you guys running MIUI soon!
Now this is what im talking about. If you guys have stuff to test ill snag it up and try it. Cant write but I can install it and test for ya. Not really scared to brick it. Plus its insured. Anyway good luck cant wait for it!!!
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Are there any good guides/articles to learning how to create custom roms and whatnot?
I'm a software developer and while I've never done anything related to kernals/operating systems normally I'm able to pick up stuff quick and I think learning about stuff like this for Android phones would be awesome. I just really have no idea where to start at.
Frooty said:
Are there any good guides/articles to learning how to create custom roms and whatnot?
I'm a software developer and while I've never done anything related to kernals/operating systems normally I'm able to pick up stuff quick and I think learning about stuff like this for Android phones would be awesome. I just really have no idea where to start at.
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Unfortunately...that is why there aren't more devs around. No docs. Its all trial and error...especially kernels.
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Just keep trying you can unbrick anyway with dev gtg465x ultimate unbrick procedure so it is safe, just don't drop the Indie on water,
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h8rift said:
Unfortunately...that is why there aren't more devs around. No docs. Its all trial and error...especially kernels.
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Would you or one of the other devs be willing to post an intro guide or something in order to help get more developers here?
I know you guys are probably busy working on your roms as well as work/school/doing other things, but it probably wouldn't take too long to make a short intro to help us get started. That way we could hopefully get some more devs around here.
I've been reading others guides and posts about it and I could probably do at least a little work from the start based on what they say is involved in making a rom, but the biggest problem for me is not knowing how to get going. It seems like you need an android kitchen to do a lot of the work but all of the kitchens look like they are phone specific so I don't want to try using one if those on the infuse. Maybe they aren't, but info like that to help us get our feet wet would be extremely helpful.
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Frooty said:
Would you or one of the other devs be willing to post an intro guide or something in order to help get more developers here?
I know you guys are probably busy working on your roms as well as work/school/doing other things, but it probably wouldn't take too long to make a short intro to help us get started. That way we could hopefully get some more devs around here.
I've been reading others guides and posts about it and I could probably do at least a little work from the start based on what they say is involved in making a rom, but the biggest problem for me is not knowing how to get going. It seems like you need an android kitchen to do a lot of the work but all of the kitchens look like they are phone specific so I don't want to try using one if those on the infuse. Maybe they aren't, but info like that to help us get our feet wet would be extremely helpful.
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I'm with ya. I've got some free time and would be happy to help in anyway.
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Noob to SGS4G for T Mobile...

Okay people I just bought this phone and I'm coming from MyTouch 4G. I've been reading for the past 2 days about how to flash a SGS4G and honestly,..it's crazy! Little overwhelming to be Honest...to the point, I rooted my phone with Superoneclick, I have superuser, so I know it's rooted. Plus, I have Titanium Backup running on my phone. Everything is still FACTORY SET on the phone. It is running 2.2.1 Froyo. I did read about Froyo udate zip CWM and recovery and have downloaded them. My question is since I want to flash A Rom does it have to be Froyo only? If there is such a thing?? Or can it be Gingerbread 2.3.6? And is there anything else I need to download? I know I have to follow to the tee on the OP that the Dev. says to do. I just want to be sure exactly what I need to do..
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Follow my gb starter pack guide. There is a link in my forum signature.
That looks crazy!!!...If that is my only option(s) than I'll read throughly and hopefully I make no mistakes. Thank You for your response.
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thekoopers said:
That looks crazy!!!...If that is my only option(s) than I'll read throughly and hopefully I make no mistakes. Thank You for your response.
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The GB starter pack would be the way to go if you want to update to GB and a custom rom if you need any help just send a PM
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Thanks a bunch erikmm...if I stumble onto any problems I will PM you Dude!
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thekoopers said:
Okay people I just bought this phone and I'm coming from MyTouch 4G. I've been reading for the past 2 days about how to flash a SGS4G and honestly,..it's crazy! Little overwhelming to be Honest...to the point, I rooted my phone with Superoneclick, I have superuser, so I know it's rooted. Plus, I have Titanium Backup running on my phone. Everything is still FACTORY SET on the phone. It is running 2.2.1 Froyo. I did read about Froyo udate zip CWM and recovery and have downloaded them. My question is since I want to flash A Rom does it have to be Froyo only? If there is such a thing?? Or can it be Gingerbread 2.3.6? And is there anything else I need to download? I know I have to follow to the tee on the OP that the Dev. says to do. I just want to be sure exactly what I need to do..
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The gb ext4 starter pack saved me alot of headache when I first got this phone. Hands down it is the best way to go. Just make sure you follow the directions exactly. Its guides like this and the people that make them that make XDA so great.
I'm new to it as well and like you are saying, it's overwhelming to root and flash on this phone. But I followed the GB starter pack the other day and included the Vahalla Final rom as my choice and everything worked great. Some things actually happened a hair different than described and I thought it screwed up but it worked.
But I think I just screwed up trying to do a restore
aburn95 said:
I'm new to it as well and like you are saying, it's overwhelming to root and flash on this phone. But I followed the GB starter pack the other day and included the Vahalla Final rom as my choice and everything worked great. Some things actually happened a hair different than described and I thought it screwed up but it worked.
But I think I just screwed up trying to do a restore
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This post will tell you all you need to know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18983885
I'm on the same boat as the OP, I have a mytouch 4g and my cousin is about to upgrade soon, so she offered to sell me her galaxy s 4g for $75 so I'm gonna take up on it.
I've been spying on the forums here and have noticed that most of your guys' roms are gingerbread roms, (i didn't really bother to search, for I don't know for sure I'll keep this phone or sell both my mt4g and this new phone for a galaxy s ii), but anyways, I saw something about porting roms from the other galaxy phones, am I right?
I haven't seen any ics roms here yet, but I took a look at the vibrant forums and it appears they have an ics rom and i was wondering would porting the ics rom from the vibrant be possible if I wanted to try. Thanks
I2IEAILiiTY said:
I'm on the same boat as the OP, I have a mytouch 4g and my cousin is about to upgrade soon, so she offered to sell me her galaxy s 4g for $75 so I'm gonna take up on it.
I've been spying on the forums here and have noticed that most of your guys' roms are gingerbread roms, (i didn't really bother to search, for I don't know for sure I'll keep this phone or sell both my mt4g and this new phone for a galaxy s ii), but anyways, I saw something about porting roms from the other galaxy phones, am I right?
I haven't seen any ics roms here yet, but I took a look at the vibrant forums and it appears they have an ics rom and i was wondering would porting the ics rom from the vibrant be possible if I wanted to try. Thanks
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Do that search...
lumin30 said:
Do that search...
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I only found an ics styled gingerbread rom for this phone.
I didn't look up anything about porting though
I2IEAILiiTY said:
I only found an ics styled gingerbread rom for this phone.
I didn't look up anything about porting though
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It is a touchy subject in this forum. I would leave it alone. The kernel isn't there yet but the devs are working hard to make it happen for the community!
lumin30 said:
It is a touchy subject in this forum. I would leave it alone. The kernel isn't there yet but the devs are working hard to make it happen for the community!
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But I'm sure the roms you guys have are very stable, right?
And so I'm guessing porting isn't easy for this phone?
I2IEAILiiTY said:
But I'm sure the roms you guys have are very stable, right?
And so I'm guessing porting isn't easy for this phone?
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Most will tell you if you want a rom ported do it yourself. The devs are working on what they are working on. It isn't really our place as end-users to make request (my opinion of course) rather be grateful for all the awesome **** they have done and are working on. So no... it isn't easy.
And yes --> We have some fantastic ROMS.
lumin30 said:
Most will tell you if you want a rom ported do it yourself. The devs are working on what they are working on. It isn't really our place as end-users to make request (my opinion of course) rather be grateful for all the awesome **** they have done and are working on. So no... it isn't easy.
And yes --> We have some fantastic ROMS.
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Yea, I kinda got a feeling it was a do it yourself community here cause I went into the dev section and was like dang you guys don't really have a lot of choices, but then I went to the vibrant's dev section and they have a lot just like the phone I have now.
What phone is easiest to port from for the galaxy s 4g, I'm thinking the vibrant but idk
I2IEAILiiTY said:
Yea, I kinda got a feeling it was a do it yourself community here cause I went into the dev section and was like dang you guys don't really have a lot of choices, but then I went to the vibrant's dev section and they have a lot just like the phone I have now.
What phone is easiest to port from for the galaxy s 4g, I'm thinking the vibrant but idk
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[GUIDE] Porting Vibrant Roms To SGS4G
The kernel isn't there yet for ICS but have at it.
lumin30 said:
[GUIDE] Porting Vibrant Roms To SGS4G
The kernel isn't there yet for ICS but have at it.
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I'm bookmarking it and I'll have a go at it when I receive the phone in about a week or two maybe
I2IEAILiiTY said:
I'm bookmarking it and I'll have a go at it when I receive the phone in about a week or two maybe
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If you know what you are doing you may inquire about teaming up and helping others with projects.
lumin30 said:
If you know what you are doing you may inquire about teaming up and helping others with projects.
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Lol, I don't know what I'm doing but I'm willing to learn.

[Q/A] Ask Us Your Questions Here About Roms & Mods

Fed of looking at threads opened up here & there for even smallest thing!
So i decided to answer them all! Ask you're Questions & Requests about Roms,Mods etc here!
Me, Emo and others who are aware of it will answer them!
Keep it clean! Good Luck!
Feel free to ask
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
This should be stickied.
Good post,needs sticky.
So now whe have Infected Rom, Titanium and we are going to have Cyanogen,no?
I love Cyanogenmod and its a good new to know you are working on it
DarknessDragon said:
Good post,needs sticky.
So now whe have Infected Rom, Titanium and we are going to have Cyanogen,no?
I love Cyanogenmod and its a good new to know you are working on it
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We are working on it for sure and heavily! We i'll make an official statement when we have a bootable build! I'll be back to home tommorow so i'll sort out that
Hi all!
All I want to say that thank to XDA's community and its devs , Ive seen the evolution of the scene SGR from no roms nor kernels to infected and titanium roms and as I seen theres a CM7 project on the go and even AOSP.... thats much more than I expected when I bought it so thanks for everything!
Uh, I was just looking up on MIUI rom and I have got a question. Why is CM more popular? MIUI seems like a much nicer experience.
MIUI is much newer, supports quite few devices and it's basically based on CM. To get MIUI u must first have CM /AOSP.
FeralFire said:
Uh, I was just looking up on MIUI rom and I have got a question. Why is CM more popular? MIUI seems like a much nicer experience.
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Lol! No offence! But i hate iPhone
eaglerazor123 said:
Lol! No offence! But i hate iPhone
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No offense. But, why is that 99.99% of Android lovers hate iPhone and vice versa?
eaglerazor123 said:
Lol! No offence! But i hate iPhone
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I hate iPhone as well.
When I looked at MIUI, my first thought were like that as well, "This is an iOS copy. How on earth is this so popular?"
But then I went through it and it seemed pretty awesome.
How do you make an Odin flash able ROM and one for CWM?
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I've heard that NVflash is a lower level of firmware flashing than Odin and NVflash makes Optimus 2x almost inbrickable.
Is it possible that we can have this method for our phones too?
AbShake96 said:
How do you make an Odin flash able ROM and one for CWM?
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Odin flashable roms aren't easy to make! And CWM needs an Updater-Script which have to be written according to our custom rom n file structure! Take a look at herehttp://freeyourandroid.com to get u started..
dh33r4j said:
I've heard that NVflash is a lower level of firmware flashing than Odin and NVflash makes Optimus 2x almost inbrickable.
Is it possible that we can have this method for our phones too?
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Lg is totally diff from Sammy! Odin is best for Samsung For non-bricking tip Dont get confused!
FeralFire said:
I hate iPhone as well.
When I looked at MIUI, my first thought were like that as well, "This is an iOS copy. How on earth is this so popular?"
But then I went through it and it seemed pretty awesome.
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I have a 3GS and a Galaxy R sitting next to my R and Defy XD
Ahh yes , my Backflip is charging .
With my iPad 2 .
This shows that I go for good hardware . Who cares what the software is
Herpderp Defy.
Why do we get only 721 mb of ram despite having 1gb of it???. Sgs2 shows .91gb of ram
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Seeking advice on building AOSP
Hi,
I want to learn building ROMS. I am aware that it is a difficult job, but I want to give it a try. I have read the AOSP buld instructions, but they don't mention the steps involved in creating a new build target. I understand that the process is maybe different for each device, so could any of the ROM developers here please tell me about the steps involved in doing the same for our Galaxy R?
If the answer is very involved, a short summary and relevant links will help a lot, too.
zerocool_rkl said:
Why do we get only 721 mb of ram despite having 1gb of it???. Sgs2 shows .91gb of ram
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Some memory is used for other things like system memory (Internal ROM space) and GPU RAM .
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n0frills said:
Hi,
I want to learn building ROMS. I am aware that it is a difficult job, but I want to give it a try. I have read the AOSP buld instructions, but they don't mention the steps involved in creating a new build target. I understand that the process is maybe different for each device, so could any of the ROM developers here please tell me about the steps involved in doing the same for our Galaxy R?
If the answer is very involved, a short summary and relevant links will help a lot, too.
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The thing when I tried myself was that there was no public repo for it , so I decided to make one myself .
The repo itself took a lot of time out of me
As of now the repo is incomplete .
Herpderp Defy.

[INFO] Why we don't have ICS yet + more info about it

Hi, I have noticed a ton of people curious about why AT&T people do not have ICS yet, so I thought I would answer that once and for all. I admit that I and others have gotten a little mad whenever people ask about this, but it seems they are not able to really find a clear answer, so here it is.
If you feel like this is well done, please sticky it at least until we get it all figured out.
I figure this would be best said i a Q and A type form.
Q: What is ICS, and why does everyone want it so bad?
ICS or "Ice Cream Sandwich" is android version 4.0.x. the next version, 4.1 Jellybean was just released as a slightly less important update, but ICS brought huge changes from Ginger Bread (2.3.x) the previous phone version (3.x HoneyComb was tablet only). ICS brings a slicker, darker, and better looking user interface, as well as many performance enhancements. Most of us want it more because it seems like we should than because it is actually that much better. That said it is still a great update, and most people will be happy to see it.
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Q: Why is it so hard to get ICS for our phone, while others have it even though it is not officially out?
The main reason is our locked bootloader. That means it is not possible to flash or boot a custom kernel unless it is signed with Motorola's key. That is obviously impossible.
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Q: What is a kernel?
the kernel is a major part of any operating system. you can think of it as a sort of layer between hardware and software. It is the part of an OS that communicates directly with a device's hardware. Android is based off the open source Linux kernel, meaning it is free for anybody to build and modify. However, Motorola has only released the source for the ME865, and partially for the MB865, meaning we can't really build a kernel anyways. Then of course, even if we could build one, we wouldn't be able to boot it with our locked bootloader.
ICS is not really complete without the newer kernel that goes with it
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What is Kexec, and is there any way to unlock the bootloader
The fact that I grouped these together would probably lead you to correctly believe they are related. Lets start with the second half. Simply put, NO. I hate to say it, but there is very little hope of EVER unlocking our bootloader, unless Motorola decides to do something like HTC did and allow unlocking.
Kexec is a method of hot switching kernels while still booted. It is actually just a linux tool that you can use on a computer, but it has been built for android essentially allowing you to bypass the bootloader. Theoretically it would be an easy way to run custom kernels. Then why don't we? Well a few reasons. One, we can't really get one built to begin with, especially because, at least to my knowledge, jimbridgman is the only one who actually knows what he is doing with kernel building, and he is only half here now that he got his fany new SGS3. Two, it does not work great. I am not sure the latest version is working at all on our phone, and even if it did, only one processor comes up, meaning it is really slow.
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Q: What's the deal with these Droid 3 builds that supposedly boot?
Some people managed to build ICS for the droid 3 based of a 2.3.6 kernel. that means you can boot it on a stock GB kernel, and therefore you do not need to unlock the bootloader. Unfortunately that means it is not totally ICS, but it is still pretty good. Of course they are for a cdma phone, so that means no data, no calls, and no gps, making it kind of useless.
I am not going to give a link to them, but if you are really interested go search around. any of the Droid 3 AOKP and CM9 builds will boot just fine. Find more info in the dev section, but please don't start a thread asking about it.
We have been trying to port these to work for us, but that is proving more difficult than expected, and with ICS just around the corner, I don't want to put time into it. I do think it is possible, and if you are a dev looking to give it a shot, PM me and I will tell you all I know, and try to help out as much as I can.
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Great thread!
Thanks for putting this together!
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jimbridgman said:
Great thread!
Thanks for putting this together!
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thanks. I felt it was needed. let me know if I forgot to say something important.
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Perhaps this will hopefully curb some of the incessant "where's my ice cream sandwich" or "make me a rom based on ICS" threads here. Nice job, and as always, your work here is both highly appreciated and revered.
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Nice work kras, as always.
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Hell i thought this thread was going to give me info on why att hadn't released ics for us yet. Just kidding, good job. If this thread falls down the list ill bump it so maybe it will help some of the new people and we won't get any more new threads about ics.
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Apex_Strider said:
Perhaps this will hopefully curb some of the incessant "where's my ice cream sandwich" or "make me a rom based on ICS" threads here. Nice job, and as always, your work here is both highly appreciated and revered.
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No,Most likely once posts stop on this thread and it makes it to the second page we will see more questions im sure lol
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rdavisct said:
No,Most likely once posts stop on this thread and it makes it to the second page we will see more questions im sure lol
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that's why I asked for sticky
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The good news is that the "3rd quarter" is tomorrow! Which knowing motorola and AT&T, could mean whatever.
Take that with a grain of salt. Lol.
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Fall of Enosis said:
The good news is that the "3rd quarter" is tomorrow! Which knowing motorola and AT&T, could mean whatever.
Take that with a grain of salt. Lol.
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so is September
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Why don't we have a vanilla rom? Is it due again to the locked bootloader?
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gvsukids said:
Why don't we have a vanilla rom? Is it due again to the locked bootloader?
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yep. same thing. we have a hard time compiling any also source as you need a custom kernel
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Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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Ravikirancg said:
Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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You are not right. I can prove it. The latest droid 3 AOKP and Cm9 builds will boot just fine, with no radio
You should also add Why any other leak releases of atrix 2 ICS will not work on att atrix 2..... Sick of will this work on my att..... About to be like yea we all use it lol JK.....
Ravikirancg said:
DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM9
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Couldn't be more wrong....they both boot just fine and are pretty functional, the problem lies in getting the radio to work.
Ravikirancg said:
Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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Please I emplore you to do your proper research before making incorrect posts like this. I constantly see posts from those who think they know it all, and post idiotic things like this. Nothing makes me madder than someone who does not know how to use google and the search function.
It takes less than 2 min. to make sure you CYA before posting bad information.
Both CM9 and AOKP boot, but with no radio, as has already been said in several posts now. I have tested both.
P.S. most of us devs in here have been working on this very thing for sometime now, and I have not seen you jump in on any of threads discussing the files or how to port or anything.
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Please I emplore you to do your proper research before making incorrect posts like this. I constantly see posts from those who think they know it all, and post idiotic things like this. Nothing makes me madder than someone who does not know how to use google and the search function.
It takes less than 2 min. to make sure you CYA before posting bad information.
Both CM9 and AOKP boot, but with no radio, as has already been said in several posts now. I have tested both.
P.S. most of us devs in here have been working on this very thing for sometime now, and I have not seen you jump in on any of threads discussing the files or how to port or anything.
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Agreed, They actually run extremely well, but obviously I can't stick with them with no radio.
P.S. this is my new best thought for porting, might take some extra build.prop work too. It did not boot for me, but I think we should be able to get it to. Then it is just a question of whether or not the radio will work. there is way more in build.prop on that than I would think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
I think it may work because it really adds the cm9 stuff to our own files rather than add our files to it. maybe not the cleanest way, but it might just work.
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You should also add Why any other leak releases of atrix 2 ICS will not work on att atrix 2..... Sick of will this work on my att..... About to be like yea we all use it lol JK.....
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WOW, did I really forget to add that? that was kind of one of the main points of this post I'll fix it tomorrow (actually today, I guess it is after midnight), but I need some sleep.
lkrasner said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
I think it may work because it really adds the cm9 stuff to our own files rather than add our files to it. maybe not the cleanest way, but it might just work.
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I have tried this method along with every idea that popped in my head of things to alter after following this guide. I have a highly modified build prop that AOKP boots with that I replaced with a lot of our build prop but there are still some things missing as no luck yet

how can I tell which leak I'm on? And if 2.. What are options..scv7 supercharged..:(

I have acquired a Motorola Atrix 2 from a best friend of mine. I have been following XDA for years thank you for all the help with my optimus v. I do not know how to tell which leak I have I apologize but I have looked at the threads until my eyes have I apologize but I have looked at the threads until my eyes have bled and then looked again and I still see so much conflicting information I do not know what to do or think anymore. I want to know if I am running scvc 7 ICS supercharged.. If I can go to another rom. I hope I find out I have one of the phones that I can go back to Gingerbread. My friend is clueless he has no answers for me. again I a I'm not exactly a noob but . I owe is much is i know so far to you all so thank you in advance
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I have acquired a Motorola Atrix 2 from a best friend of mine. I have been following XDA for years thank you for all the help with my optimus v. I do not know how to tell which leak I have I apologize but I have looked at the threads until my eyes have I apologize but I have looked at the threads until my eyes have bled and then looked again and I still see so much conflicting information I do not know what to do or think anymore. I want to know if I am running scvc 7 ICS supercharged.. If I can go to another rom. I hope I find out I have one of the phones that I can go back to Gingerbread. My friend is clueless he has no answers for me. again I a I'm not exactly a noob but . I owe is much is i know so far to you all so thank you in advance
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Post a screenshot of your about phone screen. If the kernel build has a mid july build date, then it is leak 1 and you can go back to GB using my script in the dev section.
Otherwise you can only run ICS based ROMs (yes you can run any ROM that is ICS based, just not GB based ones).
If you have issues it is easy to use the ICS FXZ, as we did not have that yet when leak one and two were out. Hence the issues and bricks. You MUST know which version of the phone though (ATT, Asian, or HK) To properly use an FXZ, or you have a chance to brick.
Had to break out my optimus v, and I would like to personally thank you for responding so quick. I expected to get really beat up I have been following you all for years and I know how it is horrible to be redundant here. Well my new friend it looks like I am on week 2. I do not know what to do where I should go from here but I will tell you what more stable even stock would be better even if it is a ICS leak. I don't know why they call it a leak if it came over the air does that mean AT&T in Motorola send out experimental software? the fact that I'm posting speaks to the power that this phone is an anomaly. Through the years I have never once had to post. All of my hard questions have been answered by you all in advance.
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Post a screenshot of your about phone screen. If the kernel build has a mid july build date, then it is leak 1 and you can go back to GB using my script in the dev section.
Otherwise you can only run ICS based ROMs (yes you can run any ROM that is ICS based, just not GB based ones).
If you have issues it is easy to use the ICS FXZ, as we did not have that yet when leak one and two were out. Hence the issues and bricks. You MUST know which version of the phone though (ATT, Asian, or HK) To properly use an FXZ, or you have a chance to brick.
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thank you, does this tell you that I'm on the second leak? I don't know where to look to find out how to install a permanent recovery.. I suppose I'll have to use boostrap.. scary concept....
and FXZ..New one to me. I'll search the threads more for that.. unless you want to throw new some more hints. my girlfriend and I, are so grateful
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Think that's official. It's same as I have, and i fxz'd to official 4.0.4.
Going back to gingerbread is worthless. It'd be like going from Windows 7 back to xp.
We don't use bootstrap anymore, and If you have I'd fxz to stock, root it, and then install boot menu manager, or BMM. then can flash the newer stuff.
But be aware the what your on and Numa are the only fully functional and stable ones we have.
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MotoMudder77 said:
Think that's official. It's same as I have, and i fxz'd to official 4.0.4.
Going back to gingerbread is worthless. It'd be like going from Windows 7 back to xp.
We don't use bootstrap anymore, and If you have I'd fxz to stock, root it, and then install boot menu manager, or BMM. then can flash the newer stuff.
But be aware the what your on and Numa are the only fully functional and stable ones we have.
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Hey thanks man. We bought this from my best friend actually it was a gift. It is on leak two I believe according to Jim and also it came with SCV7. It is already rooted. I am just confused as to the next step to do how to FXZ ..it is AT&T phone. I am scared to death I will brick this ! And the scary thing is I have rooted been custom ROMs and recoveries on many different phones for friends and coworkers but I have never encountered anything like this Motorola Edison
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Hey thanks man. We bought this from my best friend actually it was a gift. It is on leak two I believe according to Jim and also it came with SCV7. It is already rooted. I am just confused as to the next step to do how to FXZ ..it is AT&T phone. I am scared to death I will brick this ! And the scary thing is I have rooted been custom ROMs and recoveries on many different phones for friends and coworkers but I have never encountered anything like this Motorola Edison
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At&t FXZ is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961310
Don't know what to do with it? Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909319
Want root? The root batch file jimbrigman posted here is (IMO) the most reliable method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28934153
All you'll need from that last link should be the root file. Be sure to read all the available instructions/information provided a few times until you are comfortable with what you're doing and you'll be OK. :thumbup:
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At&t FXZ is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961310
Don't know what to do with it? Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909319
Want root? The root batch file jimbrigman posted here is (IMO) the most reliable method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28934153
All you'll need from that last link should be the root file. Be sure to read all the available instructions/information provided a few times until you are comfortable with what you're doing and you'll be OK. :thumbup:
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wow that is incredible. And there is a lot of love in this place. I appreciate that. My next move is to borrow my friends laptop as mine has died and get started hopefully this weekend. I will report the results. Did I say you guys were awesome? Voice love this place and I cannot wait to start my classes, I'm going to study Linux and computer technology at the local community college here. And from there who knows. Anyways thank you to you all and many like you for the inspiration I cannot wait to get my girls phone working 100 percent again.. Now to focus on the other problem I will try to read the thread and then I'll post later the screen seems possessed like it touches on its own I don't know if its a digitizer or a program problem because it seems to come and go at different times of the month. Very bizarre. Anyways thank you any tips are appreciated and I will keep you informed on this little project, and I'm going to start Searching the threads hoping I have the answer to someone else's question :thumbup:
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