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Right and safe upgrade solution

Hi LVSW and all others specialist.
Please help me to select the right solution.
I am currently have O2 Neo Xda pda-phone. I am using it with English language, and it is working ok (a little bit slow, but ok).
My settings are:
IPL: 2.15.0001
SPL: 2.15.0001
OS: 2.15.13.27
(So, this is G4)
This is SIM Unlocked phone (I am not sure regarding CID unlock, I don't know how to check - should I do something about it at all?).
I would like to upgrade to faster ROM, but I would like to keep current languages and if possible to add Hebrew fonts (any ideas?).
Voice dialing that I have right now is another important features.
So, here are the questions (btw I tried to read different posts, but still not clear)
1. Should I choose 2.3 or 3.2? Cons/Pros - any risks?
2. Should I first downgrade to RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_S hip-NoVendorID.zip and for what if (at all)
3. If something going wrong, how I could could roll back? Should I prepare for this something in advance?
4. Extended ROM. Which one you suggest to pick (for both 2.3 or 3.2) and what is giving to me.
5. Should I apply RadioClock after all this? If yes which version.
I know that probably most of questions are already answered in different post, but please help me. I am a little bit afraid to do it, so confirmation and suggestion will be highly appreciated.
Tnx again
olegv24

Fantastic Boss, your Mobile & mine match 100%. But I still dont know if i should upgrde and how to. Hope we can help each other.

Hi guys,
I have a G3 but i really like to know how to perform an "right and safe upgrade solution". There is a wiki page that should help to prevent a lot of post like this.
The problem is that no one take care about it.
I have wrote a post with other questions like yours.
It is called:
"Missing important information on wiki page"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283169
Could someone help us?
I propose to start to build it to prevent all post like this and help the new users (like me).

Some answers
Hello folks,
I had a similar setup to your's and went through the same hassle of going through the posts trying to decide what to upgrade to and how.
There are two different versions out there - one is AKU 3.2 and other is AKU 2.3. The only practical difference between them is that AKU 3.2 has built in support for new features like A2DP bluetooth stereo, Security features, etc which 2.3 lacks. My choice was to go with 3.2.
There are two versions of software ROMS floating around - one is by PDAMobiz and the other by Lvsw. PDAMobiz offers a ROM with many programs pre-installed inside such that you cannot delete/uninstall them. You use them or you don't. Lvsw uses the same PDAMobiz ROM (at times) and removes these programs. You have the choice (and the chore) of installing them yourselves.
My recommendation is to go with the PDAMobiz ROM if you're a newbie since it will give you a bunch of apps that are guaranteed to work with your phone and will give you some entertainment using them.
the update process has become very easy nowadays.
1) unplug your phone from the USB cable.
2) Click on Settings -> System -> Clear Storage
3) When it reboots, "tap on the screen to continue".
4) Don't align the screen - let it sit at that screen.
5) Plug in your USB cable.
6) When your computer's ActiveSync says new device found and asks if you want to synchronize it, hit Cancel.
7) This will install the PDA as a GUEST unit - i.e. just connection no syncing of contacts, etc.
8) Run the ROM program - For PDAMobiz Roms, you can double click the main EXE file and it will go ahead and do what it needs to. For other ROMS - click on the Batch file marked Upgrade ROM.bat and let it begin.
At the end of the upgrade process, you will find that the PDA remains at the align screen - screen and the DOS window on your computer will tell you to do a hard reset. That's basically - hold the camera button, hold the voice command button (below the volume slider - both buttons on left of unit) and have someone or something press the soft reset button at the base of the unit.
When it reboots - run through the screens as normal and you'll have an updated unit.
enjoy.
Thamizha

want a costum rom for your tornado??? :) click me ;)

I found a cooked wm5 rom with a iphone look!!!!
It's WWE (us english actualy) and it's full of tweaks and add-ons! check it out
check this site for screenshots http://www.cnsmartphone.com/29170/viewspace_2061.html
My first findings:
AKU 3.0
.netCF 2.0 in rom
Wm5torage
Great camera software
strange but can't find pocket msn or msn messenger anywhere....
new icons
nice apple logo instead of the windows logo.
great homescreen (very iphone)
celetask included (just press home key during 2 seconds but it's in chinese)
A very nice clock near the batery indicator.
Quite fast and stable.
i'll post more later for now it's time to reisntall my apps and games.
PS: please someone find us a way to have T9 in this rom...
here is babelfish.altavista.com translation:
---- Is suitable the type based on Singapore 2.0.11.0 edition: HTC the Tornado type (586W broadcast plug-in unit has not installed) ---- the partial systems document to take from HTC S620 (Aku3.0), the document edition has the promotion ---- ROM document is OS are partial, nbf document format ---- typeface: Song typeface ---- language: English ---- input method: A4 ---- Promotes the version ---- to join the short note service the WMP player to 10.3.15097 edition ---- promotion communications manager to 1.2.0.0 edition ---- promotion photographs software to 4.00 (Build23355), Push the Mail switch ---- joins the automatic time zone/time function (to have to coordinate corresponding GSM) ---- ---- to initialize China the promotion color letter procedure to 3.1.2.12 edition to move CMWAP to turn on network establishment ---- IA File Manager resource management ---- WM5torage 1.7 to sinicize the version ---- CeleTask 2.2 task managements and to integrate the Long_Home pressed key ---- to join the A2DP blue tooth stereo sound, the revision high-frequency unit flaw, Removes noise ---- multi- Pu to reach the SIM card manager ---- contact person to tabulate the chart sign ---- condition fence time........... Deletion: ---- Pocket MSN ---- Java MIDlet the Manager ---- system brings the chromosphere game ---- to like in the frame pattern plate, the camera tacitly approves the picture, the sound and the video recording
I'm already using it.
The cons: has no t9, but a chinese input method.
Post your findings please!!!!
Download it here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KB511Z85 or try here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HA3DKV61
happy upgrading for you guys, have a nice weekend i'll be back on monday to see your comments!!!

What font is being used? is it the typical Chinese ac3 font or Segoe?

I'm afraid i don't understand your question beacause i don't know the fonts you are talking about. please explain!

Guys this really works,
Just installed it on my SP5 over an SP5m firmware. Its very quick to install too. it took 3 minutes to install.
I will advise if it worths.

any news on this?

This is the fastest rom I used on tornado without overclocking. Quicker boot, quicker logoff and menu control. It is very pretty looking like Iphone.
The only negative is that the default input language is chinese, so you have to press * a lot to write. Everything else is in english.
If you are a tech freak use it.
Cheers

I am confused about the language options. If you goto Settings you should be able to select Locale and change it to US and English right? If not then change the registry to delete every other language besides English. I have don that in the past and worked great. However, I am not willing to risk downloading this ROM if the language isn't right. Any other bugs with this ROM??

dwest218 said:
I am confused about the language options. If you goto Settings you should be able to select Locale and change it to US and English right? If not then change the registry to delete every other language besides English. I have don that in the past and worked great. However, I am not willing to risk downloading this ROM if the language isn't right. Any other bugs with this ROM??
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I agree. also, it would be very annoying to keep on pressing "*" everytime you want to input text

a tutorial on how to make custom roms would be very helpfull.

madds said:
I'm afraid i don't understand your question beacause i don't know the fonts you are talking about. please explain!
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Saw the link that you gave, it uses the usual chinese font, they are a lot thinner than the usual WM5 font which is called Segoe..
Not a big deal since we can change fonts easily thru Registry
thanks for the info by the way

da_mayhem said:
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Saw the link that you gave, it uses the usual chinese font, they are a lot thinner than the usual WM5 font which is called Segoe..
Not a big deal since we can change fonts easily thru Registry
thanks for the info by the way
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were you able to try the rom? is it worth it?

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greatbal said:
were you able to try the rom? is it worth it?
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Haven't tried it pare, wala na ako Tornado Try mo pre

Would appreciate if someone could post the free storage space and RAM left right after loading the ROM..
Thanks

anybody going to strip this down?!
would be great to get an aku3.x rom update for the tornado!

this one looks great. wm6 would be better though.

Wow, decided to quickly throw this on right before I took off to work this morning.
The very first think I noticed was the fix for my Motorola ht820 A2DP headphones! No more will I have to deal with the high pitched distortion/noise!
I'm assuming this was either just a partial flash, or it was built upon an imate rom because I still have my imate splash screen at the beginning.
I'm at work now, and I really should be working, so I wont have a chance to install any programs or tweak with the homescreen at all . . .
The iphone stuff is well done, but I couldnt care less about having a minimal looking screen, I'll go back to my previous settings . .
Also, hopefully I can search around here enough to find out how to get my t9 back. . . . not the end of the world but would be nice.
Would also be nice to get the midlet manager back.
OS 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0)
Radio version 4.0.13.25_01.14.00
RIL 2.002
Available Storage 18.35
Total Storage 20.94
Available Memory 26.64
Total Memory 45.05
ROM update versions (blank)
Operator 5.1.195.14847
Sys info
ROM version 2.0.11.0
OPERATOR version 2.5.39.2

Will this work to change the T9 language problem.
http://surrealnetworks.com/mpx/t9_languages.htm

dwest218 said:
Will this work to change the T9 language problem.
http://surrealnetworks.com/mpx/t9_languages.htm
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Hi, i've already tried that solution but it doesn't work.
it's a diferent input software they used in this rom, it lacks suport for t9.
Can someone who knows how to speak chinese try to contact the maker of this rom (it's the guy in the link with screenshots i believe) and ask him for suport on how to make a xd-devs rom???
that would be fantastic.

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[Q] need help with my new device--mr frauhottelmann

am a new memeber here and had put a small querry on 710 for help.guess since it was a generic question as to how to start/where to start-most info is avl in various threads--however my problem is am new to the world of winmo and am not able to comprehend properly(pardon my ignorance pl!!).have purchased a vodafone vda v (aka htc s710 if i am not mistaken),unlocked with wm6 standard.Dear Sir you write a lot of posts here and bail out qutie a few troubled souls,hence asking for some help myself
1. can i upgrade to winmo6.5 straight away or does that jeopardise my warranty??would love to upgrade!. if yes how to go about it??my present config as displayed on phone is
wm 6.0 standard ce os 5.2.1236(build17741.0.2.1),
radio version4.1.13.38_02.84.90, rom version1.17.162.3
2. when i try to do windows update it doesnt and volume is pretty low???
3. i connected to my laptop which is win7 same detected it via winmo device centre.
4. the user guide that came in box was in german(i cant read german) hence downloaded an english version from net.phone is otherwise working fine-so is wi fi ,but want to tweak the same for better performance.
I would greatly appreciate if you help a novice like me to get going on this phone.Thanks a ton in advance.

I'm about to give up on Treo 750 (Downgrade wm6.1 to 6.0) [RESOLVED]

I fixed my problem doing a Hard Reset and uninstalling the Palm Translator software pt-BR. So, I'm still using 6.1 and I'm very happy with it.
Guys,
I'm in desperate mode on. It has been two days I updated my treo 750 to wm. 6.1 ( Treo750_OS5_2_19199WWE_STD). Everything went just fine. The system is nice and all. A little bit faster than the old 6.0.
But then the nightmare started: My "Notes" and "Task Manager" are there but don't work! I put Network frame 3.5... but nothing happened.
These are the two app I most use! I know there is a lot of other apps but I wanna use these ones that came with the wm.
I have two choices: downgrade to wm 6.0 or fix this issues. I've been without sleep for two days 'cause every procedure I try to downgrade fails! I tried this one ( Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater) but it says "you already have a newer version installed". And yes, I tried changing the payloads archive.
I tried Cheetah Unlocker, SD card method but nothing happens, just the three color screen saying serial or usb. It also says:
CHEE100
IPL-0.20
CHEE100
SPL-1.40.OliNex
The info about my phone is:
Windows Mobile 6 Professional (the start screen says 6.1 Professional)
CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0)
Software Version: TREO750-2.27-RWE
Firmware version: 1.12.0c.00
CC-CAP: GEN-ENG-010
I also tried T750URT but it does nothing but getting my firmware to 1.12.0c.00.
I took the 6.0 rom from here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335402
Are them really 6.0? I took the "Generic Rest-of-world - English"
Please guys help me. I've been searching over here and other forums and I just can't make it work. I chose this forum to subscribe and post 'cause it looks like the more expert. What am I doing wrong? I got this phone last weekend and I'm pretty new to this HTC world. My first smartphone! I live in Brazil and everything, even my 3G connection was working on the 6.0. This device came from USA 1 year ago and the last owner (my friend) just put the portuguese-br translator and used it.
I think I'm not forgetting any information. Thanks in advance. Going to try to sleep.
Peterson

I'm using the same rom and the two app. work fine.
After search in the internet I found this link for rom 6.0
http://depositfiles.com/ru/files/1336491
but first check what is wrong with the 6.1 rom ...
One more thing - there are softwares that you can download and do the same job even better...( replace "Notes" and "Task Manager")...
one more link for rom 6
http://rapidshare.com/files/173145556/Treo750_2.23_ROW_WM6.rar

My 6.1 ROM is working superbly, +some registry edits to speed it up even more! It's more likely, that something went wrong in the flashing process. Just try again the same 6.1...

Thanks!
Thank you all for your words. You won't believe what happened.
@libal
This morning I was in classroom and I had a crazy idea. I pressed the red button (to end calls) and reset at the same time and erased all the data. Guess what? Everything is working fine! But I sure remember about doing this same reset stuff after upgrading. Anyway, I didn't put the translator to PT-BR yet. I'll try now and if anything goes wrong, I'll just reset it again and leave in English. English wouldn't be a problem to me as you see. I'm thinking about my wife (she's still learning English).
I wanna thank you both 'cause I just gave it a try after reading that you were not having problems with the same phone. Thanks for your time and patience.
@otoinsa
Is this safe? I mean, editing registries to get a faster wm? Can you tell me which mods or just point the link about what you did? Thanks again.

By editing the registry you can customize a lot of stuff (for me replacing left soft key's permanent "e-mail" to SMS was a must. Now under "SMS" I have a submenu containing "e-mail" AND "messaging"), also disable a lot of useless windows mobile features, or enable (power management - longer lasting battery).
To some extent it's completely harmless, just try to avoid experimenting with it too much! There are a lot of instructions on the web, most common keywords used for search are "windows mobile registry hacks" or "pocket pc registry edits". It's best to add the version number (WM 6.1 for example) when searching. Also don't confuse your Treo 750 with Windows Mobile Smartphones - they don't have a touchscreen and those run a different type of Windows Mobile. It's almost the same, however there are some differences...
Most of the older WM regedits will work on 6.1. Also Treo has some Palm-specific registers. Just for starters, here's a link:
http://pocketnow.com/wiki/Windows_Mobile_6.1_Registry_Edits#Power
Wish you luck and hope you'll help to keep the 750 alive in this forum! Post your success afterwards.

I found it!
I found the problem. After doing all the customization and testing all the apps, I installed the translator Pt-BR from Palm's site. Guess what? All the apps I mentioned before stopped working. I did the uninstall process and guess what again? Everything was in English again and most important: working!
So this is the trick: don't use Palm Translator (at least pt-BR) if you are using a non-official wm6.1 rom.
The guy who sold me this Treo has the Treo Pro 850 now. Such a nice device, but 750 was my first pocket pc and I won't forget about that.
Gotta change the post title to resolved lol. But don't lock it yet. Maybe someone else may has a experience to share with us.
Peterson

[Q] how to jailbreak htc hd 7 mango?

ok, first off all I have to say that I have explore this forum searching for this answer, and yes there is some things that are very useful. but, since I'm new in these things (I have some knowledge, but I'm little afraid to do something in which I'm not to familiar), I would love to see best and the simplest way to do with tutorials or reference that is compact (or at least what to do first, second...). So how to jailbreak it to use windows device manager so I can install other apps besides market apps?
here is my sys info:
Model: HTC HD7 T9292
OS version: 7.10.8107
Hardware version: 0002
.NET CLR version: 3.7.11140.0
In the end I must say that I'm glad to be a part of XDA forum among the best devolopers in the world, and I hope so that I will be able to help someone in the future after I get more knowledge and expirience in this area.

There's no working "jailbreak" for an up-to-date HTC phone right now. All you need, though, is a developer unlock; "jailbreak" is usually used to describe something that bypasses or modifies the phone's security settings; developer unlock is a feature built into the phone by design.
Until recently, you could use ChevronWP7 Labs (http://labs.chevronwp7.com) for a cheap dev-unlock, but apparently Microsoft has limited the number of uses of that tool, nd they sold out a month ago. No word yet on if/when they'll get more. In the meantime, there are two official ways to get dev-unlocked:
1: Purchase an AppHub (marketplace developer) account from http://create.msdn.com. $99/year, 10 unsigned apps at once, lets you submit to the marketplace.
2: Get a free student AppHub account through http://dreamspark.com. Requires a student email address and only allows 3 unsigned apps at once, but no cost and also lets you submit to the marketplace (if you're into that; please remember that this is a developer forum, not a "make my phone cool" forum).
Alternatively, you could downgrade your phone to pre-NoDo (build 7004 or 7008), set your computer's and phone's clocks back a year, and use ChevronWP7 Unlocker (not the ChevronWP7 Labs, the original one). Then, look for instructions on staying "chevron unlocked" as you install the upgrades on your phone. It's a mess but it's possible.
To try and increase the number of apps you can install (to an effectively unlimited number), and allow installing apps that use the capability ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES (which can be used to get an app more permissions than its sandbox allows) on Mango, you can look up "interop unlock" as well. If you use the legacy ChevronWP7 Unlocker and then carry that forward, you'll almost certainly get interop-unlock included for free (one way to simplify this would be to install the Htc Interop Unlock XAP in NoDo, then upgrade to Mango and follow the unlock instructions after updating).

Maybe it's the best option for downgrade, and than again update on mango. I just want to know is it gonna effect my phone in any way (I mean on bad effect). I'm gonna search here for that options.
Thank you for your answer and for your time. I appreciate it!

@mailman78
Let me know how this all goes for you, as I have the exact same phone (in Australia). I'm wanting to try the downgrade/jailbreak/update route, but would love to know how someone else went about it. Cheers!

I've done it without problem!
1. downgrade bootloader from 5.xx to in my case 1.69 (or other 3.xx, 2.xx, 1.xx)
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411904)
2. install RSPL and HSPL
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18244911)
3. install custom ROM
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476058)
Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT, otherwise you CAN DAMAGE your phone device.
You must consult guys from thread-s that I gave you for Australia, I haven't spot anything about Australia! Before you doing anything, first take a time to read very carefully posts, comments and other things, BECAUSE I live in Europe, and here it's working (it's says europe htc hd7 devices)! In this threads it's explained very smooth and great!
I hope so that you will find something for you.
Best rgds