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[Q] sd card ext. partitioning questions

I rooted my dInc with UnRevoked & 4ever and am now running SkyRaider 3.0 Sense (seems stable & fast) and I see that there's an update available to SR Sense 3.1 RC3 - so I figure now is a good time to use ROM Manager to create an Ext partition for Apps on my 16G Kingston Class 10 SD card - although I've been using App2SD successfully w/o partitioning the card.
So, I did nandroid & Titanium backups and copied my entire card to a folder on my PC.
My first question is what size ext partition should I choose? (I do currently have a ton of apps - but will be paring down to a leaner machine with fewer redundant apps). Also, what swap size do you suggest?
2nd, Which folders and files do I want to copy from the PC's SD Card folder to the ext partition on my card. Then, all the rest to the main partition?
Then, do I just mount the card in the phone and run the update with a full wipe?
I already have the Goodies installed but, will I want to d/l the newest kernel?
Lastly, which of Titaniums' batch restore scenarios is best to finish with? Missing Apps w/ data? All apps & system data?
I realize there are numerous ways to go on this but I'm hoping you folks have some experience you can share before I make any major changes to a phone that's really running pretty well.
Please keep in mind I'm working with ROM Manager and I haven't gotten into , sdk, adb, emulation or overclocking - yet

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Hello to anyone , this is mine first thread here and to begin , sorry for my English because 'm Italian..
Today I had a problem with installing Android on Nand.
The problem does not affect the operation of Android, but I can not understand why ,after partitioning Micro Sd Card with EXT format , Android does not recognize any SD in the slot-card.I reformatted all the Sd in fat32 and now i can see it in my HTC HD2..I believe that it is not necessary made one EXTpartition but i cannot understand the cause this happens..
Bye to the next time..

ext is generally done to create room for apps via apps2sd..
so if ur version of android do not support ext then dont ext ur sd!!

That was the last version of typhoon of 9 April Ginger 2.3...is very strange...

marcobagaglio said:
That was the last version of typhoon of 9 April Ginger 2.3...is very strange...
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Bro it doesnt actually matter (though it should have worked for u as u r in gingerbread)!!!!
i know typhoon rom is beautiful,, i have seen it..!!
bt updated version doesnt mean latest version coz the rom developers work upon image files of an operating system.. the image file in the first relese is generally the same in the updated version in ur developers post!!
ANYWZ WHAT IS MY VIEW IS THAT U R USING AN SD CARD WHICH CAME ALONG WITH UR MOBILE!! GENERALLY THESE ARE CLASS 2 SD CARDS AND USING HIGH PERFORMANCE ROMS LIKE TYPHOON AFFECTS THEM A LOT!
so my suggestion is:
1. format ur sd card once from ur computer
2. if still dont work then check the sd card for its class. the number is generally printed inside a circle.. if no number is present then its a class 2 sd card and u should change it to better ur experiences!
note:- there nothing wrong with ur phone(as far as i can c)!!

partition SD card
Hi, I'm Italian too
Actually I can't find a good reason for your problem, the only suggestion I can make you is to try a different approach to partition your SD card. For instance, the one that worked on my device (motorola xt720) is the one explained very clearly in the first two videos (thanks to reverendkjr) that you find on youtube if you type "8 minute Linux".
It's easy if you follow all the step one by one, I'm not an expert, but it's pretty easy. Hope it will help you!

hi all
looks like impossible with android phones as i saw. I also want to do that and store big files (up of 4 Gp) on my external sd card.
you are obliged to first create a FAT32 on sd card and after a ext4 partition but i did'nt at this time find how to use it ( i mean mount in file system and see it and copy files to it ). I am under linux so no problem between pc and smartphone
There is some solution to create partition on internal sd , but ext4 should be less than 2Go !!!! and will be use to move apps on it with apps like apps2sd but not to copy files on it !!!
that's a big hole for android but ????
if you have found solution i will take it !

HTC Inspire With Leedroid

Hey guys long time iphone user here finally switched to a andriod based phone and i absolutley love it!
I currently have Leedriod installed in my HTC Inspire 4g and i love it. But onlything i am trying to get working is the A2sd. If i am reading everything correctly this is so everything i download goes onto my SD not my storage on my phone, if this is true this is exactly what i want i dont want to pile crap onto my phone to make it slower.
I am having trouble Partition my micro sd card, i am going to the store tomorrow after work to get a microsd card reader so i can access it easier through my computer instead of plugging it into the phone.
Now i did the whole Partition on the rommanager but it didnt work i still only have 1 8gig area no 512 or anything else. Or did it work and i just dont see it?
I guess my question is What am i doing wrong. I partition my card through rommanger (after i installed leedriod and kernel) Then after i did partition through rommanager i booted into recovory and launched the A2sd Patch. And its still downloading market apps to my phone and not to storage.
Please help!

I believe you manually move over the apps from phone to sd card via the A2sd app. open the A2sd app and you can see which app can be moved to the sd

Moving apps to ext. SD card

Hello all
this is my first android phone.
i managed to move some apps to sd card, but only to the internal.
How can i get them to the external sd card ? the ext. card is a mount point inside the internal one, thats what i found out.
Cheers
Lorien

At this stage it cant be done.

Oh, so is it a specific problem with the LG FW or is it the current Android OS ?
Lorien

Lorien25 said:
Oh, so is it a specific problem with the LG FW or is it the current Android OS ?
Lorien
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It's a limitation of the Android File System in general, not of froyo, gingerbread or ice cream sandwich. This is how the OS works.
What you can do is to go the the phone settings then programs then app manager and there click one by one the apps and choose to move to the SD card. You will notice that you will still have a portion of the app running from the phone memory. This is something that you have to live with for the time being but at least the half of the app should have been moved to the SD so at the end of the day you will gain some space.

Yes thats what i already did, worked great, but i do still have a almost empty ext. sd card. All the apps i moved are still on the internal sd card.

How about using apps2ext ? This is a modified version of the original (pre froyo) apps2sd that uses a "hidden" ext2, 3 or 4 partition on the SD card. I can only find it as part of custom roms. I'm sure it needs root to work too?
Anyone know if that would work?
Pete

mad_sunday said:
How about using apps2ext ? This is a modified version of the original (pre froyo) apps2sd that uses a "hidden" ext2, 3 or 4 partition on the SD card. I can only find it as part of custom roms. I'm sure it needs root to work too?
Anyone know if that would work?
Pete
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I think we might have success with that actually. I will give it a try and I will let you know.

Any progress in this matter ? My internal SD Card is already full ! Have to start removing apps to install others.
I think those Android OS limitations are pretty wierd, so the ext. card slot is just for photos,videos on an android phone then ?

I did try to use darktremor on this phone but it won't work on stock firmware. I think that we need to wait for CM7 before we are able to install the whole app on the external SD.

m33ts4k0z said:
I did try to use darktremor on this phone but it won't work on stock firmware. I think that we need to wait for CM7 before we are able to install the whole app on the external SD.
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The main problem is not the apps themselves. So Darktremor's A2SD would not help. The problem is, the extra files for large games are automatically downloaded to internal sd memory. Which is limited to 7GB. New games require more than 500 MB's each, so 7 Megs would be enough for many of us, but not enough for some of us.
It is certainly enough for me right now, but you cant see what future brings.

Hi guys,
I'm having this problem now.
Basically, my internal memory is being used by don't know what and I have left around 400mb.
The problem is that I cannot download more 3D games, they require around 500mb each!
I have tried to delete photos, videos and apps that I don't use but even like that it's not enough.
So now, I have a empty SD Card of 16GB and a phone/system that doesn't let me use that free space for "nothing".
BTW I did transfer the internal apps to the SD card, but very little changed.
Does anyone managed to find a solution for it? how can they sell android phones claiming that you can expand the memory of it if you are not able to use that memory for apps?
I already feel sorry for those that have the Evo 3D which apparently comes with 1GB internal memory.
And how can I move the 3D games to the SD card?

i think we have to wait until firmware update .. right now still behide 2.2.2 not even on 2.3 yet .. so i think we could move all app to ext card until 2.3 or higher.. i have try all the app out there .. not even one of them working .. you can move to internal memory but not ext sd card ..

you can also resolve this problem by switching internal and external memory. this works fine for the phone but messes up mass storage mode in windows! so you will find problems mounting your sd-card in windows - so you have to use alternatives for file transfer (ssh, ftp, adb) - means this is pretty much for advanced users only

Sd card, for ram, and regular storage?

I've been starting to look into adding ram to one of my devices by using an sd card. But, can you still use the rest of the sd card as regular storage at the same time? I keep all of my photos on my external, and ringtones, notifications, many things.
I'd love to figure out dedicating part of an sd card as ram, while still using the rest of it as regular storage
I looked around a bit, and I've seen YouTube tutorials about using sd as memory... But none mentioned using as regular storage at the same time.
Anyone more experienced who could share further info would be awesome or if there's some place better I should be reading, feel free to share that link with me too
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Can anyone help with this??
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Still need help with this... As far as my research shows, you can only see your sd card within your phone and can't use an sd card reader with your sd card as windows won't see it.
Is there some way to allow windows to see it as well as having it partitioned for ram??
I'd really really appreciate the help on this!!

If the first partition is fat32/exfat, both android & windows will recognize it. The 2nd partition can be the swap.
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Thanks for the reply
I did try that idea, but to put it into the phone, at least the rohesoft test program only saw the partition meant for storage. In this case I used a 16 gig (which is actually about 14 gig), I decided to set aside 2 gig for the swap, but that test program only saw the regular storage partition of about 12 gigs. How would I set it so that the ram program will see the second 2 gig partition as well? I tried them both as fat32, is that a bad plan?

I have a new observation... My phone, running 4.0.4 does not see any swap files. My tablet running 5.1.1 does see swap files, using the exact same sd card. First as fat 32 and tried 2nd as ext4. Is there another option that will work for ice cream sandwich??

I haven't tried it yet but would ICS see ext3 or ext2 better?

Officially can't get my phone to see the other partition at all!! I can get swapper to create a swap file on the *same* partition as I want to use for media only!! I thought the whole point was that only part of your card was dedicated to ram use?
To go into recovery and go into mounts and storage, it shows unmount sdcard, which means it is already currently mounted. That was why I thought maybe my tablet could see a swap partition but my phone could not. That theory is garbage now as they're both mounted. I can't even manually create a swap file on the 2nd partition in my pc cuz the computer won't see it except for in the mini tool !
I'm getting so frustrated. I'm so afraid to do so unpartitioned and run the risk of files like irreplaceable pictures deleting themselves in favor of ram space.
Is this just plain not possible??? Help....
I can't even see the ext3 in es file explorer, or even as a choice to have the roesoft tool manually create/test a swap file there
I'm running out of ideas that I have any clue at all of what to do. Could *really* use the help....