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[Q] RUU and HBOOT screen question

I have a sensation that was locked to orange, i S-Off'd and rooted, and un sim-locked but after the screen started playing up i decided to to unroot and S-On, in case of any warranty issues. When i S-On'd i flashed a stock HTC Europe ROM, if returning for repairs can i use this ROM or do i need to use the stock Orange ROM?
Also when device is in HBOOT, above Pyramid PVT Ship S-On RL it says ***LOCKED***, what does this mean? Does it mean it is not completely back to stock? I cannot see what it means as the device is no longer simlocked as it takes a Tmobile sim.
Thanks

gtcalder said:
I have a sensation that was locked to orange, i S-Off'd and rooted, and un sim-locked but after the screen started playing up i decided to to unroot and S-On, in case of any warranty issues. When i S-On'd i flashed a stock HTC Europe ROM, if returning for repairs can i use this ROM or do i need to use the stock Orange ROM?
Also when device is in HBOOT, above Pyramid PVT Ship S-On RL it says ***LOCKED***, what does this mean? Does it mean it is not completely back to stock? I cannot see what it means as the device is no longer simlocked as it takes a Tmobile sim.
Thanks
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Actually it means that you are back to stock. I take you still have super cid as you flashed different ruu? That would be an instant giveaway that you've tampered with your phone if they happen to check it.

tinky1 said:
Actually it means that you are back to stock. I take you still have super cid as you flashed different ruu? That would be an instant giveaway that you've tampered with your phone if they happen to check it.
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Yeah, i used supercid, i wasnt sure how to find the specific cid for the stock ROM, if i use the correct cid for that ROM will it remove any traces?
Thanks

Thing is now you can't change cid as you are s-on LOL. Keep looking for your original RUU, then s-off, change cid to original one and flash stock RUU.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

CID
Can somebody explain how I can return my CID to default before I run the RUU for my region.
I know my CID was HTC__001 and I have checked the guide in the dev section but it just say to run the command
fasttboot oem writesecureflag 3 which I think turn S-on??

Yeah i understand i need to return to S-Off thats not the problem, how do i find the cid for the stock ROM? Orange UK 1.35.61.1

hope it helps
gtcalder said:
Yeah i understand i need to return to S-Off thats not the problem, how do i find the cid for the stock ROM? Orange UK 1.35.61.1
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I found this list, hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195475&highlight=CID

Thanks a lot! Exactly what i needed, will be flashing stock Orange ROM pronto!
One other thing, If i have any trouble with my phone, as it is sim unlocked by myself, can they tell this even with S-On, Stock ROM and CID? I know that if you go in there they often ask for you phone number etc, (i could just get a free orange PAYG sim and stick it in if i ever have any trouble) and if i tell them it and its flags up as a Tmobile number will they refuse to repair as well (as they can tell it wouldve been unlocked)? Also the phone was off ebay and i have no proof of purchase, but its in an orange branded box and the phone has orange branding on the back, should this be legitimate proof?
Thanks

My phone was unbranded when I bought it so I can't answer your questions, sorry. I hope some one comes and helps.
Let me know if it works OK to get your CID back to your default, I need to do mine tonight but I'm a bit wary of doing it and the whole RUU process.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

Ok i shall do, I hope someone can shed some light!
I have just S-Off'd and written the CID, seems no problem and i am just about to flash the ROM, i shall update you in a mo.
Just follow this guide and you should be fine!
Cheers
---------- Post added at 04:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:09 PM ----------
Just finished flashing the ROM, everything seems ok, although i now need to edit APN settings as Im using a Tmobile sim and an Orange ROM. Good luck and let us know how you get on, it is reasonably straighforward!

All sorted no problems at all, I just restored stock ROM then changed my CID back to HTC__001 then I put s-on and viola back to stock phone.
Sucks when your used to custom ROMs
Nik
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

Guys when you buy an unlocked phone not bound to any carrier isnt the cid just 1111111 by default? Just curious coz i have one i need to send to rep.

nicolajkl said:
Guys when you buy an unlocked phone not bound to any carrier isnt the cid just 1111111 by default? Just curious coz i have one i need to send to rep.
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Its HTC__001 ,the one you are looking for.
11111111 is SuperCID, if you send it back with that CID, they can tell you've been fiddling..

Are you completely sure HTC_001 is the unlocked cid in Denmark aswell? Coz there's a way to flash it back

niklfc83 said:
I found this list, hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195475&highlight=CID
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Here's the link to the list of cid codes I posted in ages ago in this thread, my unlocked European sensation was HTC__001. I'm in the UK though.
Hope its useful to you
Nik
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA App

Ok and that cid will work with the European ROM?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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Okay so i tried with HTC__001 that wouldn't give me danish language, so i tried again with the Denmark cid and everything works now! Just sure hope thats the cid they use!
Thx for the help !
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Once moar
You will need to flash the RUU with superCid, then change cid back to land code and then remove s-off
Nicolajkl

(Q) Change CID

Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?

smash_07 said:
Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?
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Hi,
This is a SENSATION forum.

malybru said:
Hi,
This is a SENSATION forum.
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Yes I noticed it i already asked the moderation if they could move the thread to the Desire S section.

I need to find this out to? I dont want to root my Desire S, I just want to changde CID so i could put unbranded software to it...?

You can just create a GoldCard and make it work, without root or S-Off.
Earlier today I created a GoldCard and upgraded my DS using the European RUU and I'm S-ON & Unrooted.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19171606

doghous said:
You can just create a GoldCard and make it work, without root or S-Off.
Earlier today I created a GoldCard and upgraded my DS using the European RUU and I'm S-ON & Unrooted.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19171606
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Yes I know that works I have a Goldcard. The thing here is that I would like the phone to be completely unbranded without the need os special cards so in case i want to sell it or send it to warranty it won't be noticed that i changed something there. So if there is a way to re write de CID it would be good.

Well i actually successfully installed the unbranded european ROM 1.28.401.1 using the gold card. But now i can't receive OTA updates. Is there a way to get it to work?

Why don't you run the European RUU 2.10 version (RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed) from the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
That's what I did

smash_07 said:
Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?
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Just to answer your question:
(I may need to be corrected on this one)
Based on my observation and experimentation. The CID that you are trying to change, or the CID that the RUU is checking is actually on the build.prop on your phone.
Code:
ro.aa.maincid
But there are two checks that I've observed. Even though you changed the maincid, the corresponding cwkey should be changed accordingly.
cwkey created on your phone corresponds on what is on the build.prop and I believe is also being checked by RUUs.
And maybe just to be on the safe side, RUUs do check what is on your build.prop. If they are not what your RUU wants, it will not push through. Hence, you need a GoldCard.
I myself don't exactly, by codes, know how the GoldCard bypasses the checks. All I do know, is that it works.

Skanob said:
Just to answer your question:
(I may need to be corrected on this one)
Based on my observation and experimentation. The CID that you are trying to change, or the CID that the RUU is checking is actually on the build.prop on your phone.
Code:
ro.aa.maincid
But there are two checks that I've observed. Even though you changed the maincid, the corresponding cwkey should be changed accordingly.
cwkey created on your phone corresponds on what is on the build.prop and I believe is also being checked by RUUs.
And maybe just to be on the safe side, RUUs do check what is on your build.prop. If they are not what your RUU wants, it will not push through. Hence, you need a GoldCard.
I myself don't exactly, by codes, know how the GoldCard bypasses the checks. All I do know, is that it works.
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So what that means is the phone has to stay branded? There is no way that we can fully unbrand the phone by changing the CID?
And after we use the Goldcard what happens to the CID of the phone?

smash_07 said:
So what that means is the phone has to stay branded? There is no way that we can fully unbrand the phone by changing the CID?
And after we use the Goldcard what happens to the CID of the phone?
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The goldcard does not alter the CID. It just tells the bootloader to ignore the CID check when running a RUU.
One way to alter the CID is to XTC clip the phone.

Well i ended up doing what you all suggested and flashed the RUU with the 2.10 european rom with the goldcard in it.
But something went wrong and my Desire S is in a strange situation. For some reason the Goldcard did not work like the first time and gave me a CID error. But it flashed the hboot 2.00.0002 but retained the 1.28 rom i had installed on it. I have used the HTCDev method to unlock the bootloader but everytime i try to flash the 1.28 RUU again (to flash the old hboot again) it gives me an "unknown error" that is actually a security error.
Is there a way to get the old hboot back?

smash_07 said:
Well i ended up doing what you all suggested and flashed the RUU with the 2.10 european rom with the goldcard in it.
But something went wrong and my Desire S is in a strange situation. For some reason the Goldcard did not work like the first time and gave me a CID error. But it flashed the hboot 2.00.0002 but retained the 1.28 rom i had installed on it. I have used the HTCDev method to unlock the bootloader but everytime i try to flash the 1.28 RUU again (to flash the old hboot again) it gives me an "unknown error" that is actually a security error.
Is there a way to get the old hboot back?
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My reply to this post of yours is already a hint.
Use search PLEASE.

Command Error when changing CID

Hi folks,
I have unlocked and s-offd my Voda HTC Chacha.. installed a WWE Rom but havent recieved any OTA since then.. I am on 1.19 and there is a 1.54 OTA out..
just checked the CID through adb and its set to Super CID 11111111 instead of generic HTC__001. Tried changing it but I get Command Error. Any idea or solution for this?
Also, Is this the reason why no OTA are showing up?
If no, please advise how can I update the phone via OTA
Many thanks

What's your full version number? Afaik, 1.19 isn't a WWE ROM, it's Vodafone UK

qzfive said:
What's your full version number? Afaik, 1.19 isn't a WWE ROM, it's Vodafone UK
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Here are the full details mate:
Android 2.3.3
Software 1.19.206.2
Baseband 47.14.35.3030h_7.47.35.17
Kernel 2.6.35.10-g8db500e
cheers

Searching "1.19.206.2" on Google brings me back to a thread here in XDA's Chacha section saying it's an O2 ROM - so you see any O2 apps or bootanimations? I've heard that O2 don't actually "brand" their Android phones with apps, but still make all updates go through them.
EDIT: Yup, 1.19.206.1/2 is an O2-UK ROM - I found this out from this forum thread: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/7588766-post44.html
RUU_Chacha_O2_UK_1.19.206.1_Radio_47.14.35.3030H_7 .47.35.17_release_195486_signed.exe
RUU_Chacha_O2_UK_1.19.206.2_Radio_47.14.35.3030H_7 .47.35.17_release_197936_signed.exe
As you can see, your software number refers to 1 of 2 O2 UK RUUs
You should flash the 1.33.401.1 RUU from this thread, then see if you get an OTA update to 1.52.401.1 - if not, try downloading it from this thread and apply it via stock Recovery, which is reported to work if you're S-OFF and have a correct CID (HTC__001 for example) or SuperCID.

qzfive said:
Searching "1.19.206.2" on Google brings me back to a thread here in XDA's Chacha section saying it's an O2 ROM - so you see any O2 apps or bootanimations? I've heard that O2 don't actually "brand" their Android phones with apps, but still make all updates go through them.
EDIT: Yup, 1.19.206.1/2 is an O2-UK ROM - I found this out from this forum thread: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/7588766-post44.html
RUU_Chacha_O2_UK_1.19.206.1_Radio_47.14.35.3030H_7 .47.35.17_release_195486_signed.exe
RUU_Chacha_O2_UK_1.19.206.2_Radio_47.14.35.3030H_7 .47.35.17_release_197936_signed.exe
As you can see, your software number refers to 1 of 2 O2 UK RUUs
You should flash the 1.33.401.1 RUU from this thread, then see if you get an OTA update to 1.52.401.1 - if not, try downloading it from this thread and apply it via stock Recovery, which is reported to work if you're S-OFF and have a correct CID (HTC__001 for example) or SuperCID.
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Fantastic mate, downloaded it as we speak..
not sure how it stayed on 1.19 as after I used XTC Clip, the logos and boot image were gone so I assumed I had a stock rom.. oh well.. everyday is a learning day..
I will let you know how I get on..
cheers for your help mate..

Update... Installed the 1.33 which then took the OTA update which is all good... However I still can't change the CID to HTC__001.. (currently set at 1111111)
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why you like to change the CID?
SUPER-CID (1111111) might have set during S-off thru xtc clip.... SUPER-CID (1111111) signifies you device is universal device, which enables to flash all languages/APN/other settings in your phone

ajeevlal said:
why you like to change the CID?
SUPER-CID (1111111) might have set during S-off thru xtc clip.... SUPER-CID (1111111) signifies you device is universal device, which enables to flash all languages/APN/other settings in your phone
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I know but it doesn't help with OTA updates
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk

ok, but..
ajeevlal said:
why you like to change the CID?
SUPER-CID (1111111) might have set during S-off thru xtc clip.... SUPER-CID (1111111) signifies you device is universal device, which enables to flash all languages/APN/other settings in your phone
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True, but it forces non-qwerty keyboard users to manually modify the layout in /system/usr/
as described here , because CID is taken into account on default layout.
Once you know the trick, it's OK, but really annoying to do every time you install a new ROM

S-OFF and warranty

I am sorry, because this have probably been asked many times, but I have a little more specific question. I have HTC Sensation rooted, and S-OFF. Now I want to send it to the service under warranty, because I noticed there is a dust under my screen.
I know what I have to do, but I dont know which default rom should I choose, so they definitely would not suspect anything. Does it have to be carrier specific or just some random EU rom? I am from Slovenia, my carrier is Simobil (Vodafone).
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

you need to flash one based on your cid which kinda gives you carrier,country info
use this guide as reference

Thank you, i just read this, however I still dont know how to find the right ruu for my phone. There is no Simobil Slovenia on the ruu list. Any other way to find out which rom to flash? The thing is I dont really remember whether I changed my CID at some point or not, so I might not be able to see/find the correct one.
Thanks again.

Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?

vrocipes said:
Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?
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Hi,
CIDGetter will show you your original CID.
When you check it via fastboot,you will get your ACTUAL CID.
If you are s-off,then , you should be able to run a European RUU and get back to stock.
Then, follow the guide ganesh gave you to s-on.

vrocipes said:
Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?
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the cid you got via fastboot is the current one you are having
and HTC_032 is the rom cid ..so if you are having stock rom ..it represents your actual cid

Thank you both for your answers. Hmm, so one of you think that CIDgetter gives you original cid, and one thinks it gives you the CID of current rom. If ganeshp is right, then I still dont know my original CID, as currently I have Viper S 1.3.5 rom :// If malybru is right then I have to flash rom with HTC_032 CID and not just any European rom? Again it is important, because I dont want to get rejected on my warranty...
Thanks again.

vrocipes said:
Thank you both for your answers. Hmm, so one of you think that CIDgetter gives you original cid, and one thinks it gives you the CID of current rom. If ganeshp is right, then I still dont know my original CID, as currently I have Viper S 1.3.5 rom :// If malybru is right then I have to flash rom with HTC_032 CID and not just any European rom? Again it is important, because I dont want to get rejected on my warranty...
Thanks again.
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both of us (me and Malybru ) are saying the same thing
cid from fastboot ..gives you the actual/current cid you have right now
cid from cid getter ..will give you the rom cid (in case of viper it is HTC__032)
also based on your country ..i think the fitting RUU is indeed is of European Unbranded one (as malybru said )
if the phone is not linked to carrier (like contract phone ) then European unbranded is the right RUU

It has been bought through carrier contract, but they stopped locking them, but it could still be locked in case it was from old stock... I'll have to try that, so in case it is locked to the carrier, I need different rom? Im sorry for so many questions but im really lost in finding the right rom.

Changed my CID are OTAS safe now?

Hi guys, my one s was bricked because it had super cid and I installed the jellybean ota. My device has now been fixed and it came back with a vodafone rom on there :S the CID was vodap001 or something like that. It must be because the guy who I bought the device off of must of bought a vodafone device. Anyway I changed the cid to HTC_001 and succesfully ran the jellybean RUU so does that mean that my phone is now unbranded and seen as an unbranded device? Am I now safe to install otas or will they brick my phone? I'm hoping changing my CID to HTC_001 is enough.

Anybody? Man it's quiet here in the One s forums, coming form a N4!

yes.
device is now unbranded.
only the supercid and ota combo = brick as fas as is know.
htc__001 devices where able to do the ota.
but always look for user experience when doing a future ota, you never know.

real187 said:
yes.
device is now unbranded.
only the supercid and ota combo = brick as fas as is know.
htc__001 devices where able to do the ota.
but always look for user experience when doing a future ota, you never know.
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That's good to know, thanks. When the next ota is ready I'll ask people who changed their cid if the update went ok