[Q] What is G1 and G2 ? - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello there
What is the Difference between G1 and G2 Devices ?
and what is G1 and G2 in the HSPL thread attachments http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195647 ?

Generation 1 and Generation 2 (I usually write them as gen1 and gen2 to avoid ambiguity). Gen1 are the release devices, like the Samsung Focus, HTC HD7, LG Quantum, and so on. Gen2 are the devices released with Mango, and in many cases with new hardware features like front-facing cameras and/or faster CPUs. This includes the Samsung Onmia W (not to be confused with the Omnia 7, a gen1 device) and the HTC Titan. All Nokia devices are also gen2, while so far the only Dell device (the Venue Pro) is gen1 (even if buying one today comes out-of-the-box with Mango, it's still gen1 hardware).
There's also "gen1.5" to describe devices that came out with NoDo, especially the CDMA devices. These are the HTC Arrive (CDMA-only re-branding of the HTC 7 Pro, sold on Sprint) and Verizon's version of the HTC Trophy (which adds a CDMA radio to the originally GSM-only phone).

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[Q] Android phone with Blackberry style keyboard

I am looking to upgrade my trusty ole BB 9700.
I would like an Android phone but I love the "downward" keyboard Blackberry style, not the side sliders (like HTC G2, MyTouch4g, etc).
Technically a Dell Venue Pro or a Blackberry Torch would work but no Android there, and the Motorola Droid Pro is CDMA only (correct ?).
I need it to be compatible with TMobile US also so I can get 3g or 4g data.
What's out there ?
valv507 said:
I am looking to upgrade my trusty ole BB 9700.
I would like an Android phone but I love the "downward" keyboard Blackberry style, not the side sliders (like HTC G2, MyTouch4g, etc).
Technically a Dell Venue Pro or a Blackberry Torch would work but no Android there, and the Motorola Droid Pro is CDMA only (correct ?).
I need it to be compatible with TMobile US also so I can get 3g or 4g data.
What's out there ?
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You can buy the world edition of the Droid pro. Otherwise, the only other one I know of is the Motorola Charm.

Mango on incredible 2

Can I get mango on the droid incredible 2?
gh0st htc trophy
no you cant
What about chevron unlock for HTC trophy (U.S Verizon) mango 7.5?
gh0st htc trophy
you'd have to downgrade to nodo, chevron, then hspl. I think that's the only current way to have mango unlocked currently (correct me if i'm wrong) guess you could grab one of ansars official carrier roms to downgrade and work from there...
You will never get Windows Phone (the operating system) to run on the Droid Incredible 2 (ships with Android). Windows Phone won't support the Incredible Two's hardware.
The Incredible 2 has the Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8655 so in theory, it can run Windows Phone Mango.
No one has so far been able to successfully port Windows Phone to any Android phone so far, however.

[Q] Looking for a good, cheap, no-contract AT&T smartphone

I don't have my Motorola Atrix 4G anymore, so I'm looking for a good, cheap, no contract smartphone with a physical QWERTY keyboard to buy myself. Right now I'm borrowing a friend's Pantech Link until I get a new phone. I don't want to spend more than around $100, though I'm willing to go a little higher if it's worth it. I mostly use my phone for texting, calling, browsing, Facebook, email, looking up directions/movies/restaurants, and playing Pokemon with an emulator so nothing too intensive, I really didn't need such a high-end smartphone like I used to have.
I'm on AT&T so I need an AT&T phone smartphone or unlocked GSM smartphone that'll work with AT&T. I plan to use the phone for about a year and a half until my contract ends though I might buy another phone before then.
I've been looking at the Motorola Charm that Newegg has on sale for $100. It's unlocked and will work on AT&T, and looks pretty good other than it's 3 MP fixed focus screen and QVGA screen though for $100 it's much better than most of the dumbphones I'll find for under $100.
What do you guys think about this phone and do you know of any other good phones for under $100? Thanks!
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The LG quantum generally runs ~$100 used on online classifieds. Its a att phone with a slider keyboard, running windows phone 7. WP7 is very different compared to android, but its elegant looking, smooth, and super stable. The Facebook app, angrybirds, email are all really good. I doubt there are any free emulators for it, but there are a lot of good quality apps if you don't mind paying a few bucks.
Other than that on att with a keyboard you may be looking at older Windows Mobile phones, like the Tilt 2, or Fuze. They are great phones, with nice keyboards, but very low screen resulotion, and there are no apps in the way they exist on Android or WP7. You can install programs, but there is no store, and will all be old.
You also have the palm offering that might be cheap now. The veer and pre plus have sliders, and wesOS has an app store, even if it is dwindling. I do love my TouchPad, but didn't like a pre plus.
The next option is ... wait for it ... blackberry. I won't get into that, as that is the only platform I never tried.
I don't know about the TMo offerings, but any TMo phone unlocked will work, but you will only get edge, not 3G. The G1 would probably run in your price range.
If you can convince att to give you an early upgrade you could try for the Captivate Slide. Its almost the best android phone on att, and it has a keyboard. But, off contract will be way above your price range.
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quarlow said:
The LG quantum generally runs ~$100 used on online classifieds. Its a att phone with a slider keyboard, running windows phone 7. WP7 is very different compared to android, but its elegant looking, smooth, and super stable. The Facebook app, angrybirds, email are all really good. I doubt there are any free emulators for it, but there are a lot of good quality apps if you don't mind paying a few bucks.
Other than that on att with a keyboard you may be looking at older Windows Mobile phones, like the Tilt 2, or Fuze. They are great phones, with nice keyboards, but very low screen resulotion, and there are no apps in the way they exist on Android or WP7. You can install programs, but there is no store, and will all be old.
You also have the palm offering that might be cheap now. The veer and pre plus have sliders, and wesOS has an app store, even if it is dwindling. I do love my TouchPad, but didn't like a pre plus.
The next option is ... wait for it ... blackberry. I won't get into that, as that is the only platform I never tried.
I don't know about the TMo offerings, but any TMo phone unlocked will work, but you will only get edge, not 3G. The G1 would probably run in your price range.
If you can convince att to give you an early upgrade you could try for the Captivate Slide. Its almost the best android phone on att, and it has a keyboard. But, off contract will be way above your price range.
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Thanks for the advice!
The LG Quantum looks nice, and I've heard a lot of good things about the WP7 OS. I prefer Samsung phones over LG phones so I'll start looking at WP7 phones. I don't want anything outdated though so I'm going to stay away from phones like the HTC Tilt2 and HTC Fuze even though the Tilt 2 looks pretty nice.
I'm not a fan of Blackberries so I'm going to stay away from them.
Also, why would I only get Edge and not 3G if I used an unlocked T-Mobile phone? The Motorola Charm for example supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz GSM bands; AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz and T-Mobile uses 900/1800 MHz so I'm not sure why I'd only get Edge.
Thanks again!
That charm might work on att 3G. The TMo branded devices generally lack at least one if not several of the att bands (TMo also uses 1700 and 2100). The vibrant is the only one I have heard of working on att, and it didn't support all the bands (I want to say it included 850, but not 1900), so it only worked in some regions.
I like Samsung over LG too, but the quantum is the only QWERTY WP7 device branded for att. The Samsung devices don't have keyboards. WP7 doesn't have the fragmentation that Android does. Microsoft put stricter hardware requirements on the OEMs, so I am fairly certain all of the devices are upgradeable to Mango. I know the original Focus (Samsung not Ford) was upgraded, and ran Mango perfectly. I had a Focus for a month, and was impressed with it, but ultimately went with SGS II, as I am an Android power user.
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quarlow said:
That charm might work on att 3G. The TMo branded devices generally lack at least one if not several of the att bands (TMo also uses 1700 and 2100). The vibrant is the only one I have heard of working on att, and it didn't support all the bands (I want to say it included 850, but not 1900), so it only worked in some regions.
I like Samsung over LG too, but the quantum is the only QWERTY WP7 device branded for att. The Samsung devices don't have keyboards. WP7 doesn't have the fragmentation that Android does. Microsoft put stricter hardware requirements on the OEMs, so I am fairly certain all of the devices are upgradeable to Mango. I know the original Focus (Samsung not Ford) was upgraded, and ran Mango perfectly. I had a Focus for a month, and was impressed with it, but ultimately went with SGS II, as I am an Android power user.
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I defiantly want either an Android 2.1/2.2/2.3 or a WP7/WP7.5 phone with a physical QWERTY keyboard that's cheap so there's not a lot to choose from. I looked online and the Motorola Charm doesn't support 3G on AT&T so that phone's off my list now. :/
I've been reading reviews on the LG Quantum and it looks like a really nice phone. Two main problems though. For one it doesn't have some of the Applications that I rely on that Android has. Notably, a SMS/MMS Backup Application. Second it's too much for my budget, it's about $160 new at the cheapest, plus CA sales tax. I'm kind of iffy about buying a phone used, do you know if it's cheaper anywhere else?
Thanks again for all your help!
I thought of a few more QWERTY att phones. The Dell Venue pro is a portrait slider running WP7. The Motorola Backflip (att's first android phone that everyone forgets about) has an interesting keyboard, it folds out, so when closed the keys face out, instead of sliding. But, I think its stuck on android 1.6. Motorola also released the flipside and flipout on att, both on 2.1. The flipout is smaller, and the keyboard rotates on a pivot, sliding out at 90 degrees. The flipside is more like a normal slider.
The SMS backup was a problem for me on the Focus too. Albeit not a huge problem, but one I never found a solution to. As far as apps, I found it annoying that some apps weren't there, and didn't want to stick it out until they were.
For QWERTY android phones its going to be tricky. HTC made great QWERTY WinMo phones, but no android ones for att (several for TMo). Samsung made the sprint version of the galaxy s QWERTY, but that won't work on att. The G2 on TMo is QWERTY, but won't get 3G data. The Motorola QWERTY android att phones are odd form factors (backflip and flipout), and weren't popular.
The flipside may be your best bet, and on eBay they are close to your range. I believe they run motoblur, which is known to cause poor performance, and generally one of the worst android skins. (What was on the Atrix is not the same, scaled back compared to those earlier versions from what I understand)
As far as used phones, I have never had issues buying used phones. Check the water indicators, and place a test call if buying local. If buying online many eBay sellers offer 30 day warranties.
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[Q] [Discussion] QWERTY phones

So currently, Verizon only has 2 phones with physical (slideout) QWERTY keyboards: the Motorola Droid 4 (which is being retired soon) and the Samsung Galaxy Stratosphere 2, which is just as old as the Droid 4, and has lower specs.
Does anyone know if they're going to release more physical keypad phones? Or are they trying to retire those out for good?
now is the revolution of touch based phones, im not sure if u will get phones with keypads in near future except blackberries

Two Nexus 5 820, 2 different sets of bands...?!?

I just bought 2 LG Nexus 5 phones on ebay. They were _silly_ cheap (AU$165, around US$120). I didn't really even expect them to work!
In Australia we normally would use the D821 version; however, I read you can [unlock Band 3 for the 820](http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/radio-enable-lte-band-3-nexus-5-d820-t2928561) . So I thought... why not?
The _weird_ thing is on the packaging of the phones. Check them out! One says "D820 GSM 900/1800/1900", the other one says "D820 GSM 850/900/1800/1900" (!). The one with the missing "850" had a much much older version of Android (4.0.1 I think) before upgrading (jumping to version 5, then version 6).
There are other slight differences. In the "newer" model (the one that came with Android 5, and has 820), in the camera app you can swap camera and video by swiping, whereas the other phone won't allow that, and will allow you to switch by swiping to get the menu and then selecting camera.
Even though they are both updated to the latest models, the info screen has slightly different kernels.
I *suspect* the older version is just one of the very early models.
Questions:
* Can I update both to unlock band 3?
* Can you work out why they are different?
Photos to show the info!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-C98ZMLVO5VSnNLR2syTGNTVWh6b1AzWlB0aXJ1a2F5ei1n/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-C98ZMLVO5VYUZjcFJ1Q3hKOElZc2dOSjZOeVM5REI3Z2hz/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-C98ZMLVO5VRl9Fcks4QnRNYWZyWWJHMGlkeFpPY1QzeFdr/view?usp=sharing
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