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htc sensation with native ICS

I hate sense. I hate it so much that I am ready to get rid of the phone even though overall it is a great phone. Who in their right mind thinks dragging a circle into a ring is intuitive? Most of my friends cant figure out how to anser my phone and they own other android phones. I have now had this phone for about 6 months. My previous phones were the Nexus One, which was awesome, and had i not dropped and broke the screen I would still be using that phone. T-mobile replaced it with a galaxy s which was a complete POS which led to this phone. I want to root my phone, and install ice cream sandwich (ICS), or at least native android but I do not want sense. Every thread I have found on here all seem to include the sense with ICS. Can someone point me to a ROM that will meet my needs?

To root: [Guide] to Installing S-off, Unlocking, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on
I'm currently running ARHD 4.1.9 with a no sense add on script.
This link here: [ROM] Android Revolution HD™ 5.0.2 XE | ICS | Sense 3.5 | High Quality & Performance
will direct you to the downloads for a good ICS rom install.
This link: ARHD No Sense Script
Is the add on you flash straight after you flash the rom to remove the sense script (don't reboot CWM or 4EXT flash straight after). It will give you standard android with Go Launcher EX.
It's good as a daily.

Soon enough, CM9 will be available if you're willing to wait. It's AOSP 4.0 and apparently it's progressing nicely. Now, I don't want to ask this, but why buy an HTC if you hate Sense? I know AOSP is out there, but there are better phones with AOSP (GNexus, for example). I mean, half of the Sensations have "WITH HTC SENSE" right on the battery housing.
I don't get it. HTC makes Sense, it's what differentiates HTC from others, why buy an HTC if you hate Sense?
Edit: I want to make it clear, I'm not trying to hate or be a condescending douche, I'm just trying to see a different perspective. I actually don't mind Sense, but it depends how it's done. None of the 3.5 roms run great for me, ARHD 3.x seems to be the only rom that does Sense right. Smooth and fast, lag free.

mattbutsko said:
Soon enough, CM9 will be available if you're willing to wait. It's AOSP 4.0 and apparently it's progressing nicely. Now, I don't want to ask this, but why buy an HTC if you hate Sense? I know AOSP is out there, but there are better phones with AOSP (GNexus, for example). I mean, half of the Sensations have "WITH HTC SENSE" right on the battery housing.
I don't get it. HTC makes Sense, it's what differentiates HTC from others, why buy an HTC if you hate Sense?
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Because they make great hardware? Because the Sensation is way better in terms of build quality, materials quality and weight balance than the Galaxy S II(which was the other phone I was considering). I've had several HTCs (Qtek 9100, HTC Diamond, HTC Desire, HTC Sensation) and they are all exceptionally well built.
The Diamond was the first phone where they started bundling some crappy "shell"(early version of Sense, but the name was different) on top of the Windows OS. It was really pointless for me, so I just disabled it(it was much easier back then - Settings > Today > Plugins, and you're ready ) After the Diamond I used an Nokia E51 for a while, and then bought the Desire... a nice phone indeed, but something was not right... After I downloaded and flashed CM6 for the first time I never went back to Sense again, Sense just looks ridiculous to me...
And when I bought the Sensation I used it for around 5 minutes with Sense, just to give it a try, but it was still the same $#!7.
So I, and a lot of other more advanced users, hate Sense. It is what differentiates HTC for the beginner and average user. For the advanced user the competitive advantage of HTC is their materials and build quality. And and HTC makes a great device to run CyanogenMod on(the best Android distro).
PS The Nexus S is a great phone, but I wanted the extra screen real estate and the dual-core CPU. The Galaxy Nexus is even better, but it wasn't available when I bought my Sensation. The HTC Nexus One was available when I bought my Desire, but it was 120 Euro more expensive, and I really dislike capacitive buttons(sadly, they seem to be the standard these days)
So this is basically why someone would buy HTC, and hate Sense

mafiabs said:
Because they make great hardware? Because the Sensation is way better in terms of build quality, materials quality and weight balance than the Galaxy S II(which was the other phone I was considering). I've had several HTCs (Qtek 9100, HTC Diamond, HTC Desire, HTC Sensation) and they are all exceptionally well built.
The Diamond was the first phone where they started bundling some crappy "shell"(early version of Sense, but the name was different) on top of the Windows OS. It was really pointless for me, so I just disabled it(it was much easier back then - Settings > Today > Plugins, and you're ready ) After the Diamond I used an Nokia E51 for a while, and then bought the Desire... a nice phone indeed, but something was not right... After I downloaded and flashed CM6 for the first time I never went back to Sense again, Sense just looks ridiculous to me...
And when I bought the Sensation I used it for around 5 minutes with Sense, just to give it a try, but it was still the same $#!7.
So I, and a lot of other more advanced users, hate Sense. It is what differentiates HTC for the beginner and average user. For the advanced user the competitive advantage of HTC is their materials and build quality. And and HTC makes a great device to run CyanogenMod on(the best Android distro).
PS The Nexus S is a great phone, but I wanted the extra screen real estate and the dual-core CPU. The Galaxy Nexus is even better, but it wasn't available when I bought my Sensation. The HTC Nexus One was available when I bought my Desire, but it was 120 Euro more expensive, and I really dislike capacitive buttons(sadly, they seem to be the standard these days)
So this is basically why someone would buy HTC, and hate Sense
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Sense 3.0 is the thing what made me buy HTC Sensation... believe me, even my wife bought a Xperia Arc "after" using my old Desire HD for a while... and she made me sell it at a loss after a weeks time...and got a Sensation XE...
If you hate Sense so much, go for SII ..... but i simply cannot live without Sense ... there is so much in it...

Why should I buy SII when I don't like the hardware? Crappy plastic, horribly light, otherwise a decent phone. I don't mind Sense being loaded when I buy the phone, as long as I can install whatever I want after that. After all I do realize that Sense is a major selling point for HTC. A lot of non-technical users love it, and there is nothing wrong with that. A lot of non-technical users also like Windows, and that's why the PC business is what it is today, but still I wouldn't use it even for a day
Also, when you say that there is so much in Sense you obviously haven't tried CyanogenMod... there are settings and customizations which I(and probably you also) didn't even suspected to exist, while using Sense...
Have a nice day, and use whatever makes more sense to you, after all that's why we use an open system

Not all HTC phones have Sense. I guess you miss my post about having a Nexus One? That is an HTC phone.. No sense, just native Android, and it was flawless. I had 4 samsung galaxys and they all had problems within 4 months and 1 of them lasted 2.5 months before it failed. So basically I had 1 fail after 2 months then every one after that had issues within a few days to a week of getting it in the mail. After reading the reviews of the galaxy nexus, i am not interested. Same cheap feel as the current and previous galaxy and they still have the same problems as the previous versions. I just read a thread about how tapping the galaxy nexus phone causes it to buzz/vibrate. I had the same problem with 2 of my galaxy phones, not to mention none of them worked with GPS even after installing the samsung "fix", and then resorting to changing the server settings ect.. Samsung makes great displays, too bad the only quality part is the screen. This phone was sent to me as a replacement to my galaxy so I really didnt buy it. Other than HTC, at this point there really is no alternative. In my opinion no other manufacturer makes a quality phone so that is why i choose HTC as a manufacturer. I also knew if I didnt like the phone, once rooting was available I could root it and install native android which is why I am here.

To everyone arguing why sense is good: Just because YOU like sense doesn't mean the rest of us do. Why are you even responding in this thread? The name of this thread isnt "Convince me why Sense is good" If you aren't going to provide information relative to the topic, please stop responding. Your responses are starting to turn this thread into an argument and that is not the intention of this thread.

dleach1407 said:
Just because YOU like sense doesn't mean the rest of us do. Why are you even responding in this thread? The name of this thread isnt "Convince me why Sense is good" If you aren't going to provide information relative to the topic, please stop responding. Your responses are starting to turn this thread into an argument and that is not the intention of this thread.
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woah! Sounds like you're going to pop a blood vessel! If you hate sense that much.. You can use the "no-sense" scripts which should do the job for the most part! You wouldn't have to deal with that stupid ring haha, try that. You lose most sense features (which isn't what you're looking for anyway) and it's still good! Some guys have developed roms that they just get rid of sense for. Check those out once you root your phone. I would advise not going for ICS yet or the roms with sense 3.5 until they're stable (That's just my opinion though) Sense 3.0 gives me 1day + of battery life and I'm not even being careful with it. Sense 3.5 gives about 18 hours with less usage and effs with my gps a bit. When you root it, my suggestion is sense 3.0 rom DE-SENSED and go from there!
The guy who posted right after you showed you what to do as well and that's for ICS

For answering the phone, u may either drag the answer call ball into the ring
or just simply drag the ring like unlocking the phone
Sense is HTC's biggest weapon
without sense, HTC may die decades ago

I guess that makes sense. I never really noticed their hardware was that much better, but sounds solid to me.

KAwAtA said:
woah! Sounds like you're going to pop a blood vessel! If you hate sense that much.. You can use the "no-sense" scripts which should do the job for the most part! You wouldn't have to deal with that stupid ring haha, try that. You lose most sense features (which isn't what you're looking for anyway) and it's still good! Some guys have developed roms that they just get rid of sense for. Check those out once you root your phone. I would advise not going for ICS yet or the roms with sense 3.5 until they're stable (That's just my opinion though) Sense 3.0 gives me 1day + of battery life and I'm not even being careful with it. Sense 3.5 gives about 18 hours with less usage and effs with my gps a bit. When you root it, my suggestion is sense 3.0 rom DE-SENSED and go from there!
The guy who posted right after you showed you what to do as well and that's for ICS
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No, not mad at all but Im sure you saw only 1 post was on topic, (the one you mentioned and the one below was kind of on topic) the others were people trying to explain why they like sense and basically telling me if I didnt like sense I should have bought a samsung. I have had this phone for 6 months, and gave it a chance (which was stated in the first post). I have used sense for 6 months and I still dont like it. I don't need other peoples opinion on why sense is good, or how their wife made them sell their phone. What does any of that have to do with me rooting my phone and installing ICS, or a rom without sense? None of those replies address the point of this thread. I want this thread to stay on track, not turn into a "I love sense" VS "I hate sense thread". I think its pretty obvious, that is the direction it was headed.
Thank you for the information. I will probably try simply removing sense from the phone first as you suggested. I dont need ICS, I just figured since I was going to root, ICS would be better. I also know ICS is coming soon with OTA. I might simply wait for that, then remove sense. I am assuming the script will work for the OTA since it works to remove sense 3.5 from the current rom floating around.

See how you get on with CM7. It's not ICS and development may have ceased in favour of CM9, but for me it's clean, fast and solid.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258543

holy crap thats a long thread... 500+ pages? WOW! Seems like a lot of people are using that. Thanks!!!

Everybody throws around the word intuitive. I like the way the lock ring works, and do find it intuitive to me. For others. Not so much. For those who have no desire to figure anything out for themselves, and would rather be told every move to make, then there is an entire company dedicated to doing just that. The name rymes with Snapple
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

rumors are rumors. there was a thread or post somewhere stating that sense on ics will toned/slimmed down since ics already has most of the features. I believe sense 3.5 was added to ics so they can work out the bugs. Well only time will tell though. Lets just see when it gets release lol.

masondoctorjt said:
Everybody throws around the word intuitive. I like the way the lock ring works, and do find it intuitive to me. For others. Not so much. For those who have no desire to figure anything out for themselves, and would rather be told every move to make, then there is an entire company dedicated to doing just that. The name rymes with Snapple
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
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While I respect your opinion, I have to disagree. But again I dont understand why this is becoming a "Why I like sense" thread...
The rings are not intuitive. It requires you be familiar with the phone (which by definition makes it not intuitive) and as much as I dislike the Iphone and apple products in general, I can pick up any Iphone no matter what generation and use it without issue, and I sure as heck dont have to "figure out" how to answer the phone when it rings. Same goes for any native android phone, but the vast majority of people who pick up my phone have to ask how to unlock it. Having a red decline button and a green answer button requiring them to be pulled into a ring is not intuitive. However, a green button that says answer and a red button that says decline that you press to perform the action stated on the button, I find intuitive. I have no problem answering the phone, or using the phone, but I have found certain things about sense I just dislike as a whole, especially after using native android on my nexus one. The lock/unlock ring, and answer buttons are just the tip of the iceberg. In my opinion, all android phones should have the option to use native android, or the manufacturers GUI and I hope Google implements that.

dleach1407 said:
To everyone arguing why sense is good: Just because YOU like sense doesn't mean the rest of us do. Why are you even responding in this thread? The name of this thread isnt "Convince me why Sense is good" If you aren't going to provide information relative to the topic, please stop responding. Your responses are starting to turn this thread into an argument and that is not the intention of this thread.
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Dude. Calm down. I don't particularly like Sense either, but it sure is pretty and fun to play around with for a bit.
The bad news is there's no real 'native' (I assume you mean AOSP) ICS out there yet. There's the 'Voldemort ROM' that we're not allowed to discuss or link to here, but it's not usable yet. If you're really desperate for ICS, you could try out Virtuous Inquisition from the development section. It's the Sense-ICS leak but it's had almost all of Sense stripped out. It's far far better than I was expecting it to be, but it's not without its bugs.
Your best bet would be to just install CyanogenMod 7 and wait for KMobs to release CM9 for us - when it's ready.
Edit: Hah! I didn't even see there was a second page!

Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas and happy new year in advance. I pray to God that our Sensation should get all the upgrades as early as possible like native ics.

Why made you decide to mod your Desire S?

Having owned an original HTC Desire, there are huge advantages to rooting it etc. It's biggest fault was its poor internal memory storage therefore low disk space was always an issue when it came to installing apps as stock. Therefore rooting allows use of the EXT of the sd card thus increase memory available. In addition, the Desire was left behind restricted to Froyo with only a poor Gingerbread and lacking sense 3.0 update to be released by HTC.
But now after becoming the owner of a Desire S I am less inclined to mod it! These previous issues are gone, with 1GB of internal storage it is far more than sufficient. Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 is the shipped software, with lets be honest not a whole of difference in comparison to 3.5.
Overclocking is never something I have seen necessary, my Saga runs smooth and I don't experience any lag etc so this bonus with rooting I have no interest with.
Therefore I propose to you, why made you decide to root and flash custom roms on your Saga?
What benefits have they brought that you believe are essential? Or are you just a bit of a modding junkie
Thanks for taking your time to read my thread, I hope you guys can share with me some of your opinions and feedback received here can help less eager users like myself!

I just hated Sense...

+1. I bought the phone because it was cheaper than the equivalent phone from another company. Also the build quality was much better. Although I didn't mind sense I planned to switch to cyanogenmod as soon as it became available (thanks superkid )
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Well, for me it was something completely opposite of you both, i wanted Sense 3 on my device with the awesome lockscreen and carousel-like home screen. I first saw that on my friend's DHD, who helped me A LOT in flashing my first ROM.

I too came from a Desire... And I too was impressed by the improvement the Desire S is compared to the Desire. It was very good just out of the box.
However, I missed the little tweaks I made using the miui rom. For some reason I felt the Miui rom to be more intuitive, more adaptable to my quircky needs... With the Miui rom I can just tweak the way it looks more precisely. I want another lock screen, fine, just change the lock screen. Another launcher, another font, another .... you get the drift.
I was a great fan of Sense. Tried several CM and non-sense roms, but I just ended up missing Sense. The non-sense were lightning fast, but still missed the good feel of sense. Then I tried Miui and now I wonder where the rom was all that time...
That's why I Rom my DesireS...
Grtz,
J.

I love build quality of HTC phones and extremely hate anything that is overbloated. Sense is a queen of bloatware. It was nice to have it on HTC Hero (v1,6) UNTIL i've found CyanogenMod. Since than all my phones (Hero, Legend, G2, *Failation*, DS) were powered by CM. Fast, functional and simple. This what Android is meant to be.
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I started because I knew virgin would take forever to release sense 3.0 update
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App

Many reasons:
Get rid of operator software
Get rid of HTC Sense
Overclocking
Upgrade to the newest Android Version
Other minor reasons: remote control, screen captures...

First of all: Titanium backup (which requires root).
The phone before my Desire S was also running android, so I wanted to restore my apps.
Reason 2: Custom roms + custom recovery.
I wanted to try out sense 3.0 (The official update was way later than a fully working custom ROM) and custom ROM's tend to have better performance and more fixes compared to official releases due to custom kernels etc.
Reason 3: Remove bloatware
Reason 4: Make all apps work, even those that require root.

dontjudgemekk said:
Having owned an original HTC Desire, there are huge advantages to rooting it etc. It's biggest fault was its poor internal memory storage therefore low disk space was always an issue when it came to installing apps as stock. Therefore rooting allows use of the EXT of the sd card thus increase memory available. In addition, the Desire was left behind restricted to Froyo with only a poor Gingerbread and lacking sense 3.0 update to be released by HTC.
But now after becoming the owner of a Desire S I am less inclined to mod it! These previous issues are gone, with 1GB of internal storage it is far more than sufficient. Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 is the shipped software, with lets be honest not a whole of difference in comparison to 3.5.
Overclocking is never something I have seen necessary, my Saga runs smooth and I don't experience any lag etc so this bonus with rooting I have no interest with.
Therefore I propose to you, why made you decide to root and flash custom roms on your Saga?
What benefits have they brought that you believe are essential? Or are you just a bit of a modding junkie
Thanks for taking your time to read my thread, I hope you guys can share with me some of your opinions and feedback received here can help less eager users like myself!
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With Desire S stock - 100% satisfied
Modded Desire S - 200% satisfied.
Also I recommend sense 3.5, much much better than 3.0. It adds more functionality
It's been tweaked a hell lot better and about 50% faster than 3.0. Trust me. You will feel the difference.
Trust me, I was like you when I first got my desire S.
It did all I wanted. What more could I want?
Then I decided to just try rooting and see what it was like.
Then after rooting, with ROMs etc, it made the phone much much better.
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1. i'm new to rooting/flashing android phones. my phone prior to the DS was the Wildfire. I had it for a little over a year and it remains 100% stock to this day so i wanted to experiment on the DS. I was originally gonna go for the Sensation XE was since I'm new to rooting, It'd hurt less if i bricked the DS compared to the Sensation XE
2. to get rid of the extra stuff like plurk, twitter etc that i don't even use.
3. it's FUN!

Because once you started s-offing and rooting and changing roms, you wont be able to stop. Because there are some feelings that came with it. Escpecially overclocking thing.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

i haven't tried overclocking my DS just yet. I dunno, maybe it's just not my thing but to each his own i'm sure i'll give it a whirl just to test it. but gotta read up on it a lot first before i actually try it. ROM wise, i'm currently using Endymion 3.1 and it's VERY nice indeed happy new year in advance to everyone

theres nothing to worry if you overclock your ds. i tried to overclocked my phone up to 1.6ghz and battery temp is still at 34. Im currently on MikRunny Rom

olyloh6696 said:
With Desire S stock - 100% satisfied
Modded Desire S - 200% satisfied.
Also I recommend sense 3.5, much much better than 3.0. It adds more functionality
It's been tweaked a hell lot better and about 50% faster than 3.0. Trust me. You will feel the difference.
Trust me, I was like you when I first got my desire S.
It did all I wanted. What more could I want?
Then I decided to just try rooting and see what it was like.
Then after rooting, with ROMs etc, it made the phone much much better.
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I am really tempted to try a Sense 3.5 rom, it does appear that HTC have refined it a lot more

dontjudgemekk said:
I am really tempted to try a Sense 3.5 rom, it does appear that HTC have refined it a lot more
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Do it
you won't regret it
or just use 3.0 for a while longer and see where you would like improvements, then when you get bored use 3.5

I rooted because T-mobile took ages to update to Sense 3, and I new ICS was coming and I would want to switch to CM9 asap. Now running Superkid/MDJ's ROM, despite a few bugs very usable, no going back for me, only forward to a (once again) fully working ROM. Also, I thought Sense 2.5 was quite fluent, appreciated the more fluent sense 3.0, but it lags like hell compared to AOSP ICS

1. Apps, that needs ROOT.
2. Other ROMS, i always was interested in MIUI ROM.
3. Now ICS, I probably won't come back to Sense (maybe to 4.0)

One of the main reasons why i got into the unlocking and rooting business is because i hate being told what i cannot do with my own stuff. Kinda stinks "Apple" all over, and i hate that kind of cheap marketing. i bought a device with an open-source operating system for what? To be told that since my device has a non-open-source custom UI, i can't experiment with it (despite buying it out to the last penny)?
Screw that. I just wanted to S-Off and root for the heck of it. Hell, when i did that, there weren't even any good ROMs available for the DS, except a couple that i never liked much anyway. My reasons for S-off and rooting today have matured and changed from those days...but i still remember the anger i felt when i had found about s-on after purchasing my phone... (this was my first android, and i didn't know ANYTHING!!). But look at where we've come today...we have one of the the best performing beta ICS on any device, and if it were not for the camera, it would be good enough to be released as stable!
Would we have gotten this far with a locked bootloader?
So why did i root? Because HTC said i couldn't.

Because of apps which need root, because to get rid of bloatware which comes with Sense, because I simply wanted to do it.
I've started with CM, but I couldn't fix the GPS issue so I switched to some Runny ROMS. Now I'm a happy user of MIUI, which is for me the best mobile experience in my life

It's too bad...

It's too bad that by the time a real (fully working) AOSP ROM drops for this phone I will already be on my next device. I purchased my original Sensation (now on my 4th or 5th due to dust issues...) back in June of last year. CM7 was always half baked, and although it was my daily it was never really 100% complete. Not to mention they never released an official CM7 for the Sensation.. But anyway, now CM9 is "in progress" but my biggest fear is that it will be 4 to 6 months (at LEAST) before a fully stable, working, reliable AOSP ROM (CM9 or otherwise) is released for our device. The most unfortunate part is that the hardware as a whole is certainly capable, and the devs are certainly good, but it will most likely be a case of "too little too late" for me. I have my eye on a true STOCK device such as the Nexus line, as that will really be the only way to go in the future. The main reasons are as follows, let me know if others agree
1) Almost instant (not really, but you get my point!) updates from Google
2) Those same updates can immediately be applied by Dev's for even more fun!
3) NO SENSE
4) NO SENSE to remove
5) Did I mention those phones don't have Sense???

I am with you. Though Virtuous has relatively decent ICS ROM that I am using, almost no trace of Sense.
Actually considering Galaxy Nexus now, on dailysteaps for $530 today.
Not sure wife will approve since she is still on Vibrant.

If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you

erto90 said:
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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Mehh I hate sense but I'm gonna buy a phone that was made for sense
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erto90 said:
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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Its a good question, and the reason was I simply did not know how awful Sense was. This was my second Android phone, and my first was a bone stock (and loving it!) G2 made as Google intended it to be. I honestly had no concept of the horrifying abomination that Sense is. It was beyond my comprehension that HTC would bother to not only create that beast (sense), but to make it so hard to remove. I loved the hardware build of my first HTC phone and I just assumed Sense would be minor cosmetic changes, clearly I was VERY wrong and should have done much more work before selecting a new device. Also, at the time I purchased the Sensation the hardware was top notch, and it was the most powerful device you could find. Immediately upon powering it on and seeing Sense however, I realized the gravity of my mistake.....

Hmm well. i dont the blame the guy cause.......
This is my first HTC. on the galaxy s side sense use to look like the best android rom ever! we only ever dreamt to get sense 2.1 on our device.
Now that i got sensation with sense 3.0 it was a disaster.
The ui was good but toooooooooooooooooo memory hogging and then all of a sudden i realise samsung majorly improve touchwiz and it looks amazing, the day i slapped myself and what makes it worse is the fact the amount of support the galaxy s 2 is getting compared to our phone
Now my next phone is galaxy s 3 definitely.
however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
he has had massive breakthroughs with our phone recently. he just released 95% stable fully working sense 4 rom which i think is much more optimised than sense 3.0
and now that he has almost everything working on his aosp tripndroid os rom including bluetooth apart from video recording we are in good shape
CALL ME A TRIP FANBOY IDC <3

webstar1 said:
Hmm well. i dont the blame the guy cause.......
This is my first HTC. on the galaxy s side sense use to look like the best android rom ever! we only ever dreamt to get sense 2.1 on our device.
Now that i got sensation with sense 3.0 it was a disaster.
The ui was good but toooooooooooooooooo memory hogging and then all of a sudden i realise samsung majorly improve touchwiz and it looks amazing, the day i slapped myself and what makes it worse is the fact the amount of support the galaxy s 2 is getting compared to our phone
Now my next phone is galaxy s 3 definitely.
however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
he has had massive breakthroughs with our phone recently. he just released 95% stable fully working sense 4 rom which i think is much more optimised than sense 3.0
and now that he has almost everything working on his aosp tripndroid os rom including bluetooth apart from video recording we are in good shape
CALL ME A TRIP FANBOY IDC <3
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Video cording works. Just not takijg pics while recording
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium

The true truth is that
Who have sense, sometimes hate it and search for aosp
The others are jelous of sense and always ask for porting on their samsung,lg etc here and there..
Is the mad truth
The neighbor's grass is always the more green ( ok sorry for the ported dict )

webstar1 said:
however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
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That's laughable. Virtuous Inquisition is probably the best AOSP-like ROM out right now and Trip had nothing to do with it.

Hope you enjoy your new phone OP!
Let us know when you get one, and I have to agree with you, the lack of a true senseless rom is pretty much non-existent for this phone. Nonetheless, enjoy your day!

erto90 said:
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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why? Because I REFUSE to buy a samsung. (although I'm starting to change my mind for the gal nex now). I bought this phone simply for the hardware, not the UI. Just cause you got a phone for a reason, doesn't mean other's have to be the same.

erto90 said:
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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My Vibrant started hardware malfunction on data radio in June and at that time HTC Sensation seemed to be a high end choice, just came out with dual core, good camera, etc. I had G1 prior to Vibrant which was made by HTC ( as did my wife and teen) and they were well built and had a good hardware. Little did I know of all the keylogger and other goodies baked into Sensation, should have taken Nexus S instead in a hindsight.
The phone is not too bad with Virtuous ICS ROM now, but in future I will go for Nexus devices, no matter if CPU/GPU not the latest or greatest. Still conidering that Galaxy Nexus dailysteals deal for $530 running today.
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do not get the galaxy nexus. if you have the sensation, use it until like september november. because thats when all the good phones are rolling out.

g1user101 said:
do not get the galaxy nexus. if you have the sensation, use it until like september november. because thats when all the good phones are rolling out.
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Wouldn't next nexus phone on tmobile be at least a year away from now?
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i want to jump ship to the Galaxy Nexus because of the same reasons (ie lack of AOSP dev support on the Sensation)... however, the crappy camera on the g.nex is really of putting to me since i use the camera daily.
i think i will wait to see how the galaxy s3, xperia s, and the htc one all do before upgrading... my priorities for my next phone are:
- Krait or Tegra3
- at least 300ppi
- strong AOSP dev support ie unlocked bootloader
- 720p and OLED a huge plus
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erto90 said:
The true truth is that
Who have sense, sometimes hate it and search for aosp
The others are jelous of sense and always ask for porting on their samsung,lg etc here and there..
Is the mad truth
The neighbor's grass is always the more green ( ok sorry for the ported dict )
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No, sense is awful and so is touchwiz and motoblur
i would take an iphone over sense

lol there always apple unlock your phone sell it for a apple iphone and be gone stop crying dev do what they can you want it fast learn to do what they do

This must be the 15th threat opened for complaining about the Sensation not having dev support, being slow,having bad build quality and a bad screen etc! You people gather your complaints in one threat and leave these forums clean for the rest of us who enjoy this phone. Virtuous Inq provides a 95% AOSP look and feel unless upu want to tell your friends that you have a "true" AOSP!
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leftheodo said:
This must be the 15th threat opened for complaining about the Sensation not having dev support, being slow,having bad build quality and a bad screen etc! You people gather your complaints in one threat and leave these forums clean for the rest of us who enjoy this phone. Virtuous Inq provides a 95% AOSP look and feel unless upu want to tell your friends that you have a "true" AOSP!
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Sorry but no. It fells totally different for me. I tell myself its aosp but I just don't buy it. No matter how close it is to aosp, its not. Until you've tried the true feel and power of a complete aosp build, don't say its the same.
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That's laughable. Virtuous Inquisition is probably the best AOSP-like ROM out right now and Trip had nothing to do with it.
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Who was the first to bring aosp ics first to sensation?
Who ported a fully stable sense 4 rom?
Who ported miui v4 first?
Who's got everything working on aosp?
Then vorbeth calls trip a kanger on twitter and then says that's why he doesn't release his sources. Well if he did, we would see them posting there work.
And vorbeth is becoming big headed on twitter cause he can compile cm9 from source? There's a step by step tutorial in the development section so even new users can easily build.
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Since this is turning into another trip related discussion you can discuss about it in some other forum.
Thread Closed...
P.S.
Final warning to everyone.
Dont discuss about :supposed kanging concerning Roms that dont have a thread on XDA.

Im so happy I want to cry

I've been using Android phones for about 2 years now, and my replacement G2 broke right before the 90 warranty. I got T-Mobile to give me a sensation for free luckily. Anyways, my experience with Android has always come down to this - fun to use, but never as responsive as other mobile OS's. Even rooted, my old Moto Cliq and G2 would lag. However, I just rooted and installed Android Revolution on my Sensation, and its ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! No lag AT ALL. I know for a lot of you this is normal, but because I am discovering this just now, it's honestly a milestone for me. I was so sure I was going to switch to WP8 once it was released, but no longer. THANK YOU SO MUCH ANDROID DEV COMMUNITY!

Welcome aboard !

Next step - ditching Sense

I disagree :L with sense 4.0 it should be a much better experience but I understand why u might want to ditch sense 3.x XD
BTW. Not starting an argument just saying
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i felt exactly the way you feel now when i got my sensation, and the experience was improved even further when i switched to ICS AOSP(-style) ROMs... i really think android can compete with iOS in terms of ui responsiveness now (though i have never used an iphone 4s).

Welcome to the cool Sensation! Happy Flashing! : )

Honestly sense 4.0 has been a great experience so far. There's absolutely no lag right now. I think I will try the AOSP roms once all of the kinks are worked out.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA

thats how exactly how i felt bro

Stay where you're at or go to Sense 3.6 ICS. Sense 4.0 isn't ready yet and whatever you do, do not install Sense 3.5 - laggy as all get out.

Next step use an AOSP ROM like CM9

same here.... but i bought my g2 on ebay already kinda scuffed up almost a year ago. something happened suddenly with my g2 (semi-bricked) and showed it to tmobile and gave me a choice of a replacement phone, sensation 4g or mytouch q. are you serious??? i chose the sensation of course....

Be sure to go over to dev site and thank mike1986. He and others have done an awesome job on this ROM/firmware.
Sent from my HTC Sensation ICS 4.0.3 ARHD 6.5.3XE. Clocked 1.62 ghz Rockin'

Yup. Just follow instructions here to a T, and you'll be amazed at how much better the Sensation gets from stock. Made the jump from Blackberry last August, and only did so because Android has come this far.

Good on ya!

Worth the buy???

I'm buying one for 180$
Coming from a g2x
Is it worth it????
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA

Definitely worth the buy. Sensation is getting updated ROMs for ICS at ridiculous speeds. Have not regretted getting this over SGX2 one bit.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA

Great developers for the sensation...totally worth it.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G XE with Beats Audio using XDA

Phones are on par, wait one more month.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk

Absolutely. Sensation is a incredible phone.

bstylz911 said:
I'm buying one for 180$
Coming from a g2x
Is it worth it????
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I really like the sensation but if you are going to buy one you will want to root it straight away and run a custom rom because HTC sense drains your battery amazingly. In terms of speed the sensation isn't at the very top but it's EXTREMELY near but it makes up with the camera which captures much better images than the Samsung galaxy s2 who's screen resolution is so badge you can count the pixels if you had the time.

Piggy-back
Since the recent mega-price-cut, the Sensation has finally fell within my meagre budget constraints.
The only think making me stop swiping my card to buy it is the mega discussions about the different issues faced - screen/unresponsiveness mainly.
After reading fixes and tweaks it seems as if most of it is fixable by rooting appropriately. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
So my question to all the Indian owners of the Sensation is:
Is it still worth the buy? Given that One S isn't coming to India anytime soon...
I have seen and handled this device at Croma and quite like the look and feel of the UI. I have no question about its functionality but only concern was such a widespread report of issues with the phone.
Some encouraging words might help... more than just 'go for it...'

Well worth it! Enjoy and happy flashing!

Thanks Galaxys!
I'm really interested to hear from people in India about its long-term stability and any issues that they might've had over the past months?

I came from the G2x as well and I gotta say I'm way more happy with my Sensation. Then again I really like Sense so that was the major factor for me but their are many others as I later found out. Great support with constant updates for ROM's, if you root, which im sure you will your on xda for god's sake!

psychoshrink said:
Since the recent mega-price-cut, the Sensation has finally fell within my meagre budget constraints.
The only think making me stop swiping my card to buy it is the mega discussions about the different issues faced - screen/unresponsiveness mainly.
After reading fixes and tweaks it seems as if most of it is fixable by rooting appropriately. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
So my question to all the Indian owners of the Sensation is:
Is it still worth the buy? Given that One S isn't coming to India anytime soon...
I have seen and handled this device at Croma and quite like the look and feel of the UI. I have no question about its functionality but only concern was such a widespread report of issues with the phone.
Some encouraging words might help... more than just 'go for it...'
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All the issues of sensation happened ages ago believe me they got fixed by august or so.....and. the fixes are so simple that it makes you think that is that what causing me problems
Also in order to fix those issues root is not required but I strongly recommmend you to root it to get access to awesome ICS custom roms. The devolepment is blazing fast you'll see atleast 3 Rom updates every day and all of them are new features (no bugs on ics at all)
Also you have Sense4 ports which will give you one S look
As for the phone its really cheap now
For a dual core beast atleast
If you are familiar with flashing custom roms and all I strongly recommend you to flash it.
See the HTC stock Rome doesn't have complete gpu rendering so you feel a difference of touch when compared to so called overpriced iPhones but once you have custom Rom installed and couple of tweaks the UI or touch is definetely better than iPhone (my previous phone is iPhone4 which I've lost it and I can assure you this)
Also camera ...its a beast inside but caged by HTC crappy software....but recently one guy was able to break it and after that the quality of photos and videos quadrapled ( I got a camcoder which records 1080p videos and now my sensation beats it by miles)
The only downtrade to sensation is battery. the stock battery is crap .you can improve battery perf by some of custom roms but go for an extended battery.
I have anker 1900 one and I easily get 1 day battery with heavy use (5 hrs screen time and atleast 1 hr gaming) and this is cheap only 1-1.3k
Also when you have stock HTC Rom the performance is poor when compared to SGS2 but with custom Rom you can compete with SGS2 easily.
All the things need to be done for custom Rom installation is reversible (helps in case of warranty purposes) but you need to be careful while doing the steps
There are guides for every thing here in xda so please follow them step by step
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Thanks SO much for that highly reassuring reply. Just the kind of mental peace I was looking for before investing my hard earned money on a phone which I've been stalking since its launch!
Was thinking twice only because of (not anymore) alarming issues.
I've never owned ANY smartphone before (let alone android) so am still noob when it comes to flashing, rooting etc. But, I learn fast and with help from xda folks, I will unleash the beast in my new purchase
Mostly will order it by tomorrow night.

From my personal experience, everything is better then Sensation on stock ROM after official ICS update .... everything, even Nokia 3210

psychoshrink said:
Thanks SO much for that highly reassuring reply. Just the kind of mental peace I was looking for before investing my hard earned money on a phone which I've been stalking since its launch!
Was thinking twice only because of (not anymore) alarming issues.
I've never owned ANY smartphone before (let alone android) so am still noob when it comes to flashing, rooting etc. But, I learn fast and with help from xda folks, I will unleash the beast in my new purchase
Mostly will order it by tomorrow night.
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You are definitely gonna enjoy your purchase
and when you got the phone follow these guides
1. Guide to do Basic things that are to be done for making your phone flashable with any custom rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
this guide will hep you in reversing all the changes you've done too in case of warranty purposes.
2.As you are having your first smartphone You would probably like the Sense UI
(User interface which is HTC software on top of android ) so I would suggest you to go for ARHD rom which is completely stock with tons of optimizations done on it (just see the change log )
This is guide to flash ARHD (completely noob proof )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
njoy also PM me if you are facing any issues and you didn't got answers from this forum ( which is highly impossible )