TIP/Trick 2 android 1 phone - HTC Sensation

Hello,
i thought it just had to share the following:
YOU CAN GET 2 ANDROID AT 1 PHONE
just do the following:
1. make an backup of you rom your running
2. take the backup and put it on your pc/other sd( i use sd so i can switch everywere)
3. reboot wich the same rom still and backup all stuff you have with the by you prefferd program i use titanium backup.
4. make sure all apps are compatible with the extra rom you want and with the rom your currently running.
5. if all done flash the new rom
6. make sure the old firmware is updated for the new rom if you need to switch between roms make sure you have both firmware
7. boot when all checked and finish into the new rom
8. get the backup program back i install a file manager install the apk of the backup program again
8. restore all backuped programs
9. go to recovery back it up
here it gets harder
10. if the other backup on sd plug it in and if you want restore the old rom or dont do this and keep the new fresh flashed on
or
10. if on pc get it onto your sd if enough space and restore if you want
this hole proces takes 20 min if both backuped and not having to many apps or like me 40 min because i have many apps and therefore need another sd for the backups and firmwares
just restore the rom u wanna run and there you go u have 2 android 1 sd 1 phone and can switch in 10 min by restoring otherone
WATCH OUT FOR FIRMWARE CHANGES IF YOU WANT TO RUN GB ASWELL AS ICS U NEED TO SWITCH THE FIRMWARE TO!
(firmware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767&highlight=firmware+2+3+5
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I hope i helped and didnt make a new tread while there was one like this.

Its called restoring. Every knows this alreafy
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g1user101 said:
Its called restoring. Every knows this alreafy
Sent from my MIUI.us Sensation 4G using xda premium
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still 2 androids 1 device and since i didnt find another topic of it i thought id share

Alienator9191 said:
still 2 androids 1 device and since i didnt find another topic of it i thought id share
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Alright. But not bashing u or anything, but its common sense but its common sense xD
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Two androids for 1 device would be better using Boot Manager. This method is just not reasonable... Maybe for those with all the time in the world, sure. But throwing away 20 minutes to an hour a day just to change a rom is absurd if you ask me, especially since you're just changing back and forth on android. Get me on WP7 or something and that'll be interesting! Sorry for attacking you but this is just common sense and like I said, the idea is quite absurd (reminds me of an einstein quote, however this one doesn't apply)
And to go from ICS to GB, playing with the firmware(radios and stuff) all the time... could potentially brick your phone. Have fun!

KAwAtA said:
Two androids for 1 device would be better using Boot Manager. This method is just not reasonable... Maybe for those with all the time in the world, sure. But throwing away 20 minutes to an hour a day just to change a rom is absurd if you ask me, especially since you're just changing back and forth on android. Get me on WP7 or something and that'll be interesting! Sorry for attacking you but this is just common sense and like I said, the idea is quite absurd (reminds me of an einstein quote, however this one doesn't apply)
And to go from ICS to GB, playing with the firmware(radios and stuff) all the time... could potentially brick your phone. Have fun!
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thnx for the hint and as you so it is alot of time i did it 3 times today just too get 1 app working correct on gb and now i got 3 android wich of one is not running even close to normal but that lies down to sense 4.0 thats just killing it.

other method i found was this:
http://lifehacker.com/5826050/how-to-dual-boot-multiple-roms-on-your-android-phone
trying it out soon

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[Q] Where are the Pros at?!

Hi there,
I have a few questions and after trying the search function, I decided to start a new thread!
I am used to using Acronis True Image or Ghost on my PC, to backup entire Operating Systems. Is there anything like that for Android?
I would like to be able to backup a ROM, install another ROM, and then, if i want to, switch between them...
After installing a stock ROM again, I was surprised to see that it wasn't that bad at all...it was actually relatively quick. Why shouldn't I just remove all the crap of a stock ROM and use that instead of using a custom ROM?!
thanks,
Georgios
Yes inside of cwm there is a backup mode you can use. It does exactly what you mentioned just have to make sure your not hopping from a rom that's incompatible with another rom/partition etc,and you'll be fine. Other than that its your choice on how you like your phone. Me personally I would not of kept this phone without our devs on here I love their Roms and kernels. Imo
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Backing up ROMs
Don't know about backing up the ROM, but you really should wipe your phone before installing a new ROM unless you KNOW otherwise. Afterall, each ROM will re-write parts of your phone's operating system. Wiping before each install will ensure you start out clean. There is a program called "Odin" that will make this an easy process. There are different versions of Odin and each one can perform different tasks, so read up on using it BEFORE you jump in head first. Odin can be used to install individual files, like kernals, or master clear your phone or it can take your phone back to stock. Most ROM devs will include in their instructions what you need to do to install ROM. Although I believe it's hard to brick the Infuse (unless you jump in head first), IT CAN HAPPEN!
Read Read Read!
Regarding restoring your programs to make it easier, Titanium Backup is probably the best at backing up your programs. Afterall, restoring ALL your programs can cost you alot of time if you don't have a program like the ones you use on your PC.
Note that you must pay for the Pro Titanium Backup to be able to use the "Batch" feature. The batch feature will allow you to reinstall selcted programs automatically without any interaction. Without "Batch", you will have to keep pushing the install button for every program you want to reinstall THE PRO VERSION IS WELL WORTH THE SMALL AMOUNT YOU PAY!
For me, installing ROMs is kind of an addiction. Installing the ROMs are fun. Granted they take a little time, but..........
Sorry to be long winded as I didn't know whether you were asking as a newbie to the ROM world
tyshemi said:
Yes inside of cwm there is a backup mode you can use. It does exactly what you mentioned just have to make sure your not hopping from a rom that's incompatible with another rom/partition etc,and you'll be fine. Other than that its your choice on how you like your phone. Me personally I would not of kept this phone without our devs on here I love their Roms and kernels. Imo
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Thanks for the fast reply! I actually tried to create a backup/restore with cwm. it worked fine. However, I didn't try to bring back another ROM yet. I wonder if the current backup is going to be deleted if you install with cwm another ROM?! With Acronis/Ghost you install Windows, create an Image to another partition or hidden partition. You can then install another version of windows and do the same thing, create the Image, store it on another partition and you can then bring back which one you like!
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MaverickCoast said:
Don't know about backing up the ROM, but you really should wipe your phone before installing a new ROM unless you KNOW otherwise. Afterall, each ROM will re-write parts of your phone's operating system. Wiping before each install will ensure you start out clean.
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Thats what I thought. It makes sense, I do the same thing when installing windows...
There is a program called "Odin" that will make this an easy process. There are different versions of Odin and each one can perform different tasks, so read up on using it BEFORE you jump in head first. Odin can be used to install individual files, like kernals, or master clear your phone or it can take your phone back to stock.
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I am gonna give it a try...
Most ROM devs will include in their instructions what you need to do to install ROM. Although I believe it's hard to brick the Infuse (unless you jump in head first), IT CAN HAPPEN!
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I hope not!!!
Read Read Read!
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Doing it right now
Regarding restoring your programs to make it easier, Titanium Backup is probably the best at backing up your programs. Afterall, restoring ALL your programs can cost you alot of time if you don't have a program like the ones you use on your PC.
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Gonna give this one a try as well...
Note that you must pay for the Pro Titanium Backup to be able to use the "Batch" feature. The batch feature will allow you to reinstall selected programs automatically without any interaction. Without "Batch", you will have to keep pushing the install button for every program you want to reinstall THE PRO VERSION IS WELL WORTH THE SMALL AMOUNT YOU PAY!
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OK...
For me, installing ROMs is kind of an addiction. Installing the ROMs are fun. Granted they take a little time, but..........
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I am the same way...but now I have twin boys and plenty of sleepless nights! I don't need the extra "work"...
Sorry to be long winded as I didn't know whether you were asking as a newbie to the ROM world
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Its all good! Thanks!
...one more thing: I believe CWM is storing the backup on the local sd card, right?! If there would be a way to change the path to the external sd card, it would be perfect...
thanks,
G
MaverickCoast said:
Don't know about backing up the ROM, but you really should wipe your phone before installing a new ROM unless you KNOW otherwise. Afterall, each ROM will re-write parts of your phone's operating system. Wiping before each install will ensure you start out clean.
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BTW, what is the best for wiping the phone clean? doing through CWM???
thanks,
G
neavissa said:
BTW, what is the best for wiping the phone clean? doing through CWM???
thanks,
G
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Yes cwm is best for wiping the phone, and you should be able to change the path to.save if not just move it with an app like root explorer.
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neavissa said:
BTW, what is the best for wiping the phone clean? doing through CWM???
thanks,
G
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To get back to stock, I've used GTG's Ultimate Unbrick/Return to stock, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116251
I just prefer using Odin. CWM is an internal program. Odin is an external program.
Just my preference
neavissa said:
...one more thing: I believe CWM is storing the backup on the local sd card, right?! If there would be a way to change the path to the external sd card, it would be perfect...
thanks,
G
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that would be difficult for most users, im sure you'd have to get into the recovery image and edit it a bit. you may just be able to copy the backup to the external card manually.
im a fan of stock-ish roms as well but im also a flash junkie, seems deodexed roms run a little choppier at times, i cant verify this but stock phones in the store never seem too laggy despite all the memory mods and "lag-fixes" we use around here. i think it may also have to do with the build environment for the custom kernels, some just work better than others despite similarities in the feature set and shared sources among the community. i reember a while back when i got my captivate a developer had a thread discussing toolchains and there effect on wakeup lag which was an issue early on in i9000 development.

[Q] creating backups

just got my GS4g yesterday, and it's my 1st SP (yay), rooted it with SOC - and I'd like to make a full backup of it's 'out of box' condition ..so I found this Froyo CMW thread and would like to utilize it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099374
however, it assumes the reader has previous knowledge of wtf they're talkn about..
I read further in the post "I have sent this to Koush as well to have it added to Rom Manager" - so I ran over to market and DL'd Rom Manager, but now I can't find the file ..hell I even googled "I downloaded from android market, where's my file" and no useful results come up ffs xD - so then I find this thread (yay) - but I can't afford to buy an app, here an app, there an app, everywhere an app app - so are there any free root explorer type applications? -ALSO- how do we mount our device as R/W? ..as it seems every single tutorial I come across is ambiguous
anywayz, I'd be really grateful if someone could help me out here..
I'd like to make a full backup of my 'out of box' Froyo, update it to stock 236, make another backup, flash it to Valhalla black 236, make another backup, ect - thanks for the read
KotsChopShop said:
just got my GS4g yesterday, and it's my 1st SP (yay) - and I'd like to make a full backup of it's 'out of box' condition ..so I found this Froyo CMW thread and would like to utilize it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099374
however, it assumes the reader has previous knowledge of wtf they're talkn about..
I read further in the post "I have sent this to Koush as well to have it added to Rom Manager" - so I ran over to market and DL'd Rom Manager, but now I can't find the file ..hell I even googled "I downloaded from android market, where's my file" and no useful results come up ffs xD ..anywayz, I'd be really grateful if someone could help me out here - I'd like to make a full backup of my 'out of box' Froyo, update it to stock 236, make another backup, flash it to Valhalla black 236, make another backup, ect - thanks for the read
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1. Never use Rom Manager! ever!
2. Root your phone and then make a nandroid backup through recovery then flash whatever you want and make another nandroid backup and so on. There are enough Roms here that you really do not need to worry about a stock back-up but, as always it is good to back up everything. Trust in the THE BIBLE as it is your friend.
thanks for actually reading my post :rollseyes: lol
1] ok.. but I DL'd it, where is it so I can delete it? lol
2] already did, and I already found the bible (thx tho)
the problem is these tutorials and guides are ambiguous, and all of them assume you have prior knowledge of what their talkn about.. pretty much , no, exactly like the last
few statements of your own post "then make a nandroid backup through recovery then flash whatever you want and make another nandroid backup and so on" = lolwut? :/
I can't make a backup because.. well, read my 1st post again lol
KotsChopShop said:
thanks for actually reading my post :rollseyes: lol
1] ok.. but I DL'd it, where is it so I can delete it? lol
2] already did, and I already found the bible (thx tho)
the problem is these tutorials and guides are ambiguous, and all of them assume you have prior knowledge of what their talkn about.. pretty much , no, exactly like the last
few statements of your own post "then make a nandroid backup through recovery then flash whatever you want and make another nandroid backup and so on" = lolwut? :/
I can't make a backup because.. well, read my 1st post again lol
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1. setting/applications/ROM manager/ uninstall
The rest would take a full page post. If I were you I would just go straight to GingerBread and do not worry about trying anything with Froyo. For that go here GB starter pack and follow the well detailed directions and if still confused I will do a step by step for you for GB. The aforementioned guide tells you what to get and where to put it and what to press. The technical knowledge will come in time after dealing with Roms, kernals, flashing, etc. You don't really need to know anything other than what files to use, where to put said files, and what buttons to press and that will get you rooted and Rom'd. Before your rooted and Rom'd you should learn what does what and why and that will take a lot of reading and time but, if your impatient like a lot around here you can always learn after you've rooted and Rom'd your phone.
thanks for your replies swann, underneath my amagad, I do appreciate it lol
ok so.. I DL'd RM last night, but apparently it didn't install because it's nowhere to be found...
it's not in my apps, and idk where DL'd files are stored so I can delete it (it's not on my SD either)
anywayz, before I do anything else, I want to make a backup of my out of box Froyo
(and idgaf if anyone thinks I should skip this part, I still want to do it =)
and in order to do this, I went here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099374
but since it doesn't fully explain the how to's, I went here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122508
but then I don't have root explorer, and can't afford to pay for a bunch of different apps, therefore, I need to know of a trusted/stable/free alternative - and I also don't know how to "mount my system as R/W"
...and when I google it, nothing helpful comes up.. or is that something indigenous to root explorer? (which wasn't explained, because as I stated, all these so called tutorials are ambiguous)
wait.. is it me or do I seem to be repeating myself? *scratches head* lol
I have all kinds of patience swann, I can do all the research and studying that's needed without qualms - as I know exactly how it is.. I own and operate a forum which specializes in teaching kats how to mod the gta series and how to model in 3d applications.. and we home grow some of the most talented kats the gta modding scene has ever been blessed with ...but that's because all of my tutorials are concise and clear and leave nothing to guess - as are my answers to everyone's questions - so when I ask a question and nobody answers it, but thinks for some reason that they did, I tend to get a little uh.. how should we say.. urhrhr towards them because they're obviously wetoded or some shyt lol
anywayz, assistance would be greatly appreciated..
1. Are you rooted? If not, you will need to do this first.
2. ES file explorer is a good free alternative to root explorer, you will have to go into setting to allow for system files.
3. You would be better off just downloading a stock Froyo Rom and using that as your back-up but...if your wanting to do it your way you will need to be rooted and for that you will have to read because I took my phone out of the box, plugged in USB to the computer and installd GB before even setting the phone up so I am not sure of the process of flashing Froyo or if it even differs from GB. After that I will be happy to help you when you get to point of wanting GB.
KotsChopShop said:
rooted it with SOC
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yes, I am rooted
thank you, I'll have a look for it asap
my plans are this; backup out of box Froyo, install stock/factory 236 update, backup that version of GB, then flash to Valhalla 236 black w/FBis's debloater
the reason I didn't automatically update to Tmo/Kies 236 is because I've read about the bad KJ6 modem causing text send errors as well as gps failures..
Dude fyi, Samsung doesn't make android. All new people see to credit Samsung for android. Google makes Android
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uhh weally? lol ..yes, I understand that
but exactly what relevance does that hold with anything I've said thus far? ..was it because I mentioned Kies? - and if so, soeffnwhat.. your post effectively does nothing in it's frivolous existence lol
KotsChopShop said:
yes, I am rooted
thank you, I'll have a look for it asap
my plans are this; backup out of box Froyo, install stock/factory 236 update, backup that version of GB, then flash to Valhalla 236 black w/FBis's debloater
the reason I didn't automatically update to Tmo/Kies 236 is because I've read about the bad KJ6 modem causing text send errors as well as gps failures..
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I believe the problems arose from using the leaked KJ6 items. I have not had any problems using anything related to KJ6 items built from the source. When you get to the GB flashing/Roms and such and have any problems just let me know.
for real? ..ok, I'll back this ish up tonight and [email protected] if need be
edit; welp, I decided to just roll with it and install stock 236 w/o backn up Froyo.. and it's exactly as everyone says, longer text messages and/or messages with images will not send :mutherF*$*ingSuicide:

[Q] Stuck somewhere on CWM after flashing several roms

here it goes, i flashed several roms, it goes straight to CWM after samsung logo. Did i mount/unmount sys, blah blah blah... the answer is yes. Have I checked all my drivers to make sure they are working...YES! I opened up ODIN and it will not locate my phone. Oh it must be the usb cord... It cannot be after using several different cords... maybe the port aint working either..lets check *beep* wrong! Everything is in working order... I can get into download mode from the CWM, i can flash whatever the hell i like it will not pass the samsung logo or the CWM. Maybe there is something i can sneak into my sd and a zip file that makes it all working...not possible! so.. i need help.
I cannot go straight to the download mode after samsung logo, it will only boot up CWM red. I can get into green CWM by clicking sd:update.zip which doesnt do much for me or my phone. when i move around in CWM red. it would say no cache recovery log, in the download mode it would say no custom binary.
I would LOVE to get my phone up and running... going on to my second day at it!
Perhaps you can copy a working rom onto the external SD card from the computer and install from zip like that..
Just in put the zip into the SD card, navigate cwm to external_SD and try and load.from that zip..
Not sure.. I'm a noob
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Use a jar file,heimdall back to stock
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I managed to get my phone up and running after million of tries getting the phone to be read by the PC and ODIN.
However, I cannnot download any apps from the martket due to error (-101). I have gotten all my apps back through external SD from the stock file manager.
Should I root the phone again and bypass the market to external SD (rooted apps) and flash a rom and the market will be working?
kushsi said:
I managed to get my phone up and running after million of tries getting the phone to be read by the PC and ODIN.
However, I cannnot download any apps from the martket due to error (-101). I have gotten all my apps back through external SD from the stock file manager.
Should I root the phone again and bypass the market to external SD (rooted apps) and flash a rom and the market will be working?
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go to settings/manage applications and look for the market app and uninstall the updates. then you can download apps...
same happen to me when I go to stock, and looking for a root explorer app to download for replacing the recovery file.
take a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293751
an excellent work by prasadudwadia
ntorresla said:
go to settings/manage applications and look for the market app and uninstall the updates. then you can download apps...
same happen to me when I go to stock, and looking for a root explorer app to download for replacing the recovery file.
take a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293751
an excellent work by prasadudwadia
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I go in there all the time ;-) however I've already uninstall the market (the updates) and downloaded a new one from my external sd and it still says error (-101).
I am getting ready to root the whole 9 yard again, BUT my phone cannot be read once again, it will charge but it cannot be discovered. WHY SAMSUNG GOT to be SO COMPLICATED!?!
I guess the MODs can close this thread, since my phone is up and limping. Thanks for those that "helped" out, right!
kushsi said:
I go in there all the time ;-) however I've already uninstall the market (the updates) and downloaded a new one from my external sd and it still says error (-101).
I am getting ready to root the whole 9 yard again, BUT my phone cannot be read once again, it will charge but it cannot be discovered. WHY SAMSUNG GOT to be SO COMPLICATED!?!
I guess the MODs can close this thread, since my phone is up and limping. Thanks for those that "helped" out, right!
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Sounds like you're upset, but you're displaying poor attitude.
No one forced you to do anything to your phone.
You choose to make the changes yourself.
Shouldn't you read up more on it before you start?
Did you really think anyone here owes you anything?
Try these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1237
And this!
It should help.
wow quickie did you come up with that all by yourself?
Was I suppose to ask nicely? Even when ya'll bash newbies by looking at their post counts? *clapping* way to go!
OH thank you for that google link, my phone is running 100percent now lol.
kushsi said:
wow quickie did you come up with that all by yourself?
Was I suppose to ask nicely? Even when ya'll bash newbies by looking at their post counts? *clapping* way to go!
OH thank you for that google link, my phone is running 100percent now lol.
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look at qkster's signature! it has everything you need... i spend many hours trying to understand by myself this... and im still think im a noob...
anyways, if you can go to stock and know how to root...
this is the checklist:
1) have stock
2) have root access
3) install recovery http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y09p-J_g_Rg
have the rom on the sd card...

[Q] Rogers System file requirments

can anyone with a rogers one x please send me the following files from the stock rom??
3 files
- android.policy.jar - from the folder - /system/framework/
- synaptics-rmi-touchscreen.kl - from the folder - /system/usr/keylayout/
- qwerty.kl - from the folder - /system/usr/keylayout/
Screwing around with removing the 3 dot menu, ect, didn't work, and being the genius I am, I didn't save the original
Tried master reset, this doesn't affect these changes, and right now my windows 8 laptop wont allow me to load the drivers needed to run HTC Sync, and flash the stock RUU; figure this way should be a good work around, saves me waiting till I get to a Win 7 PC to do set my system.
Appreciate any help, Thanks
Another fun fact I found during this operation....apparently the master reset does wipe out your backed up data in Titanium Back up. Not terribly happy about that, now I've got to do a complete rework of my setup, cuz everything is gone.....
neophile said:
Another fun fact I found during this operation....apparently the master reset does wipe out your backed up data in Titanium Back up. Not terribly happy about that, now I've got to do a complete rework of my setup, cuz everything is gone.....
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You should be able to flash the rogers ruu. check the development forum.
neophile said:
Another fun fact I found during this operation....apparently the master reset does wipe out your backed up data in Titanium Back up. Not terribly happy about that, now I've got to do a complete rework of my setup, cuz everything is gone.....
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It also wiped all my music and pics last time I did a master reset. Pure awesome. Thank god I had them all backed up in Dropbox.
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GibMcFragger said:
It also wiped all my music and pics last time I did a master reset. Pure awesome. Thank god I had them all backed up in Dropbox.
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haven't setup my drop box account yet, but I think I'll try saving my TI backups there as well....easier than having to plug into my laptop to save them.
yoohoohoo said:
You should be able to flash the rogers ruu. check the development forum.
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Tried this, can't load the drivers cuz I'm running the pre-beta version of Win 8, and they wont run on this system. Need to get access to a Win 7, or older, PC to run the flash....
I've tried 2 of the 3 methods, dropping the recovery image file into my root folder, it rebooted my system, but didn't load the bloat I would have expected from the stock rom, and my buttons are still not working.
The second method is the ARU wizard, but without the drivers, I couldn't locate my phone.
Last method is the fast boot, but again, no drivers, no boot.....
Kind of screwed here right now.....
neophile said:
haven't setup my drop box account yet, but I think I'll try saving my TI backups there as well....easier than having to plug into my laptop to save them.
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Yep, photo's gone as well.....F#@k!!
First HTC device....can't say this is making me love them much right now.....had the 2 previous galaxy s devices, never had any issue with master rest.....and I was flashing my device every day or two with a new rom.
Nobody with a rooted Rogers HOX that can help me??
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Recovery Twrp vs CWR

Any advantage over one from the other
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I Rio Wonder about that
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this will be interesting hearing everyone's imput ... tho its all based on personal preferenceim sure .. i like cwr
I have used both in the past and still prefer CWM....no reason other than its what I learned to use when i was a noob....now Im a noob veteran.
droidstyle said:
I have used both in the past and still prefer CWM....no reason other than its what I learned to use when i was a noob....now Im a noob veteran.
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I will second this, I like them both, in fact I still use TWRP on my Nook Tablet, but I've been using Koush's stuff for so long, over 3 or 4 phones now, that it just seems natural for me to use CWM.
TWRP for me. Its much faster and has nice features.
I use to be a CWM fan, that was until I started using TWRP on my Rezound. From then on I use TWRP, but I don't mind good ole CWM every once in a while.
TWRP because it's faster and the UI is easier to use simply because the tiles are large.
I like Amon Ra best of all. Oopps...wrong thread LOL!. I use TWRP on my Bionic and CWM on the Galaxy. Like mentioned above, CWM is what I learned on and for some reason it feels like more hands on.
Let me say this. My friend was running CM10 all the way from like september. I tried updating it in CWM but it gave me assert errors. Reflash TWRP on it, and flash latest nightlies no problem. Dirty flash too, just wipe dalvik and cache.
There isn't an objective answer that I can give. I'm biased towards pretty much anything that is alternative to what everyone else is using. Also, I have no data that would indicate one recovery is better than another. So here's my purely subjective answer.
I prefer TWRP over CWMR for several subjective reasons:
Coming from the original Moto Droid on vzw, I ran RZrecovery (a moded version of SPrecovery, which had an OC'd kernel and lots of options as well as charging while in recovery way before I had seen it anywhere else). Basically, I'm not accustomed to CWMR.
I'm not a fan of the differential backups that CWMR defaults to. I know it takes up more space to have an IMG or TAR for each partition I choose, but I'm a crack flasher and go back and forth between TouchWiz and AOSP based roms all the time. I need to be able to keep my backups completely seperate. No blobs. I need a golden master for each ROM I flash. With a 64GB externeal SD card and a 32GB internal card, I rarely run out of space.
I can name backups while booted into TWRP before you create the backup. The whole date being wrong in every recovery thing is indeed annoying.
I like the terminal. I prefer to root, flash, hack, etc etc on my own without help from apps and or pre-built tools (except for dsixda's android kitchen, which is so bloody easy to use it blow my friggin mind). So I don't need or want ROM Manager to do much of anything for me. I even flash TWRP via the terminal. GooManager always runs in the background, and hasn't really ever had the most up to date versions of TWRP, so I ditched it pretty fast. I hate apps that run in the background when I'm not using them.
I like the look and feel of TWRP. Its feels like a teeny version of android with a small but very functional UI. Only thing missing is a terminal emulator that I could use from within TWRP itself. (Choosing a command file to run just isn't the same, but it has come in handy)
I also like having backups go to a folder that is labeled with the device's SN. Seems like a really fantastical feature in the making, like a cloud based storage for TWRP could be somewhere off in the future, where you could backup multiple devices to one online storage space.
Its the only "alternative" in town. I like "alternative" aka not so main stream stuff, which is odd cause I'm not a fan of Alt Rock. More of a Hendrix, Zepplin "classic rock" (aka blues based rock n roll with lots of riffs on the minor pentatonic scale) kind of person.
Um, I don't really have an 8th reason. But I would like an OC'd kernel in TWRP to help speed up backups, but I dunno how viable that is.
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Um, I don't really have an 8th reason. But I would like an OC'd kernel in TWRP to help speed up backups, but I dunno how viable that is.
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Tempting, but with backups/flashing/recovery, I think slow and steady wins the race.
I used to use cwm, but with the change to blobs all of my backups stopped working. Even ones I just made.
so I stopped trusting it.
I switched to twrp. The backups are larger I think, but I trust them more.
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Haven't had any problems with TWRP, and it was the first I used. So pretty much just became acquainted with it and haven't seen a reason to switch.
I use CRW on my phone and TWP on the Kindle Fire. The best advice I can give is use what ever method the dev tells you to use, if he goes out of his way to mention it there is probably a good reason behind it.
One thing about CRW I wish would get fixed is the file name date being wrong (When it saves a file it gives the file a name based on the date but all current versions save it with an incorrect date (it thinks its 1970 lol) If i dont change it right away I end up with a bunch of mystery backups.
Another thing to remember about the latest CRW's is the blob. To save space during the saving of a backup a file (blob) is created that has any redundant info shared by backups in it. So all the info for your latest backup file isn't all in the file with that backups name some or most of it is in the blob file. So if you want two or three backups from your phone saved to your home computer make sure you take the entire clockworkmod file because if you take just the individual CRW backup file (1970 -blah-blah-blah) you will be missing all the info on the blob. CRW will let you restore with the partial file and that can get ugly fast.
I've always used cwr but I will give twrp a shot, love trying new stuff. And the date issue with cwr is really annoying. I'm sure it could be renamed but I don't want to change anything and get an md5 mismatch.
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